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Woman wants her beau to put a ring on it
August 25, 2015 by AMY DICKINSON / askamy@tribune.com
DEAR AMY: I am 30-year-old professional and I have been with my boyfriend for five years. We have lived together for three years. We recently got a dog and things are going well overall. He knows that I want to get married and have kids. He says he wants that too, but I don't know what he is waiting for. I haven't nagged him -- although that's what all my friends say I need to do to get a ring. I know it isn't a financial issue. I've also told him a general idea of the ring I would like. I feel like I have been very patient waiting for him to be ready, but at what point does it become disrespectful for him to expect me to play "wife" without making the commitment? I want him to propose because he wants to spend the rest of his life with me, not because he feels like he has to, but I don't know how else to get through to him. If he doesn't want to marry me, I feel like he would know by now and should tell me if that's the reason. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Waiting for a Ring
DEAR WAITING: I'm not sure why it is disrespectful of your boyfriend not to ask you to marry him when you are already living together. If marriage is your rock-solid desire and if this is how you frame success in your relationship, then you are the one disrespecting -- or suppressing -- your own goals. If he wanted to be married, he would be married to you by now.
I am not blaming you at all for wanting what you want. But the way to get what you want is not to pretend that you don't want it. Don't nag, but do discuss this. If you have a timeline in mind, you should be open about it. You should be prepared to leave the relationship if it isn't leading toward fulfilling your own goals.
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The Principle of Least Interest: He who cares least about a relationship, controls it.
I think she needs to tell him, clearly, that she wants a husband and children in her life, and if he isn't ready now, she will have to find someone who IS ready.
Then give him two weeks to either move their relationship forward ...
or move out.
She could call for a six month hiatus, no contact unless and until he's ready to elope.
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The Principle of Least Interest: He who cares least about a relationship, controls it.
People can deny it all they want to--but the fact is that there is a lot of truth to the old adage "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free".
He is expecting her to "play" wife--because that is EXACTLY what she has been willing to do. He may or may not want marriage and kids--but he's certainly in no hurry for it.
It really doesn't sound like it was a priority discussion before they moved in together, either. She just assumed "it" would happen, and now she's disappointed it hasn't.
Failure to plan--is planning to fail.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
People can deny it all they want to--but the fact is that there is a lot of truth to the old adage "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free".
He is expecting her to "play" wife--because that is EXACTLY what she has been willing to do. He may or may not want marriage and kids--but he's certainly in no hurry for it.
It really doesn't sound like it was a priority discussion before they moved in together, either. She just assumed "it" would happen, and now she's disappointed it hasn't.
Failure to plan--is planning to fail.
By the same token....why buy the bull when the bullsh!t is for free?
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
If he hasn't proposed after 5 years chances are he won't.
Yeah, I just don't see that happening here either.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
People can deny it all they want to--but the fact is that there is a lot of truth to the old adage "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free".
He is expecting her to "play" wife--because that is EXACTLY what she has been willing to do. He may or may not want marriage and kids--but he's certainly in no hurry for it.
It really doesn't sound like it was a priority discussion before they moved in together, either. She just assumed "it" would happen, and now she's disappointed it hasn't.
Failure to plan--is planning to fail.
By the same token....why buy the bull when the bullsh!t is for free?
Because she wants to.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
If he hasn't proposed after 5 years chances are he won't.
Yeah, I just don't see that happening here either.
Not without the very real threat of losing her. He's comfortable, so he won't change unless he is made to.
This is why you should not move in together unless you are actually already engaged, preferably with a date set, unless you both are on the same page - with OPEN communication about it.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
If he hasn't proposed after 5 years chances are he won't.
Yeah, I just don't see that happening here either.
Not without the very real threat of losing her. He's comfortable, so he won't change unless he is made to.
This is why you should not move in together unless you are actually already engaged, preferably with a date set, unless you both are on the same page - with OPEN communication about it.
Exactly. And I wouldn't want to marry someone I had to give an ultimatum to. My ex relationship was dead set against marriage. I let him move in anyway even though I really wanted to be married again. Big mistake.
If he hasn't proposed after 5 years chances are he won't.
Yeah, I just don't see that happening here either.
Not without the very real threat of losing her. He's comfortable, so he won't change unless he is made to.
This is why you should not move in together unless you are actually already engaged, preferably with a date set, unless you both are on the same page - with OPEN communication about it.
I personally never got the point of moving in together.
I lived with DH for three weeks before we got married.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
I think 3 weeks, when you have a date and plan, is quite a bit different than 5 years, lol.
LOL Okay good. Glad I have your permission!
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
I think 3 weeks, when you have a date and plan, is quite a bit different than 5 years, lol.
LOL Okay good. Glad I have your permission!
You're welcome! If you need any more advice on how to live your life, then PM me!
Actually I do. I'm really still very aggravated with my IL's due to their hijinks. I need to write Dear whoever and see if I'm being unreasonable.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
I think I will do the break room after I get home from the dentist. She is going to hear about waking me up this early!
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
If he hasn't proposed after 5 years chances are he won't.
Yeah, I just don't see that happening here either.
Not without the very real threat of losing her. He's comfortable, so he won't change unless he is made to.
This is why you should not move in together unless you are actually already engaged, preferably with a date set, unless you both are on the same page - with OPEN communication about it.
I personally never got the point of moving in together.
I don't get people (2 of my co-workers) who live with their boyfriends and make babies with them. If you're living together and having children together, don't those kids deserve to have parents who are committed?
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The Principle of Least Interest: He who cares least about a relationship, controls it.
If he hasn't proposed after 5 years chances are he won't.
Yeah, I just don't see that happening here either.
Not without the very real threat of losing her. He's comfortable, so he won't change unless he is made to.
This is why you should not move in together unless you are actually already engaged, preferably with a date set, unless you both are on the same page - with OPEN communication about it.
I personally never got the point of moving in together.
I don't get people (2 of my co-workers) who live with their boyfriends and make babies with them. If you're living together and having children together, don't those kids deserve to have parents who are committed?
I agree ed. I can't believe people who aren't sure their so is the one but go ahead and have babies with them. I didn't live with my husband till I was married and I agree after 5 years he needs a wake up call. First thing I would do if I was her would be to move out.
People can deny it all they want to--but the fact is that there is a lot of truth to the old adage "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free".
He is expecting her to "play" wife--because that is EXACTLY what she has been willing to do. He may or may not want marriage and kids--but he's certainly in no hurry for it.
It really doesn't sound like it was a priority discussion before they moved in together, either. She just assumed "it" would happen, and now she's disappointed it hasn't.
Failure to plan--is planning to fail.
By the same token....why buy the bull when the bullsh!t is for free?
Not applicable. No one says she has to get married. She WANTS to. If she was fine with the staus quo, she wouldn't have written a letter.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Personally, I have lived with a few men. A couple of whom I had no intention of marrying, and one I ended up marrying because I felt it was the next step. All ended badly, because we weren't on the same page.
When Mr. FNW said he wanted to live with me I told him I was not going to give up my life and home to play house. He said he wanted to marry me, but wanted to make sure he was ready. I said, fine, let me know when you're ready. In the meantime, I will be living alone. A couple months later he proposed. After a date was set and firm plans were made, I sold my place and moved in with him. Two months later we were in Italy, sipping wine as husband and wife.
Would he have married me had I willingly given up house and home to be with him? Who knows. But I wasn't about to compromise my principles again.