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I give up.

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My boys know who Patton is.

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I give up.

flan

No really...I don't understand.  Are you comparing Vietnam to WWII?  Both had drafts.   



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Tell ya'll another thing.

Jesse was watching the movie with me. We were talking about it and I said I first watched the movie in high school. It was required in history class.

He said he didn't remember hearing about Patton. He can tell you all about Hitler and Germany. They read Mein Kampf.

 They read Mein Kampf?  Talk about BORING.

 Yes. No kidding.

But I think it shows how the focus has changed in our schools.

 



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I give up.

flan

No really...I don't understand.  Are you comparing Vietnam to WWII?  Both had drafts.   

No, I'm not. I'm saying, in ANY war, there will be men/boys being asked to kill and, sometimes, it is beyond their capability.

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lilyofcourse wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
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Tell ya'll another thing.

Jesse was watching the movie with me. We were talking about it and I said I first watched the movie in high school. It was required in history class.

He said he didn't remember hearing about Patton. He can tell you all about Hitler and Germany. They read Mein Kampf.

 They read Mein Kampf?  Talk about BORING.

 Yes. No kidding.

But I think it shows how the focus has changed in our schools.

 

 I guess I get the motivation, but I just dont think having high school kids read that rambling snooze fest is going to foster any learning.  Even for college, it is exceedingly dull.



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flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:

I give up.

flan

No really...I don't understand.  Are you comparing Vietnam to WWII?  Both had drafts.   

No, I'm not. I'm saying, in ANY war, there will be men/boys being asked to kill and, sometimes, it is beyond their capability.

flan 

 But I don't think it is wrong to reserve admiration for those who stood up and did their duty.  NO ONE, or at least very few, really want to be in that position, even volunteers, but most of them did it, and many paid with their lives.  



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huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Tell ya'll another thing.

Jesse was watching the movie with me. We were talking about it and I said I first watched the movie in high school. It was required in history class.

He said he didn't remember hearing about Patton. He can tell you all about Hitler and Germany. They read Mein Kampf.

 They read Mein Kampf?  Talk about BORING.

 Yes. No kidding.

But I think it shows how the focus has changed in our schools.

 

 I guess I get the motivation, but I just dont think having high school kids read that rambling snooze fest is going to foster any learning.  Even for college, it is exceedingly dull.

 There seems to be a big push into anything that isn't American.

But I think that is another subject altogether.



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huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
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flan327 wrote:

I give up.

flan

No really...I don't understand.  Are you comparing Vietnam to WWII?  Both had drafts.   

No, I'm not. I'm saying, in ANY war, there will be men/boys being asked to kill and, sometimes, it is beyond their capability.

flan 

 But I don't think it is wrong to reserve admiration for those who stood up and did their duty.  NO ONE, or at least very few, really want to be in that position, even volunteers, but most of them did it, and many paid with their lives.  

 I agree, husker.

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I don't see the distinction. Nearly ALL of our major wars have been fought using draftees--Civil (on both sides), WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam.

That's why I have no sympathy for Vietnam draft dodgers. A LOT of young men--my uncle included--would rather not have had to go over to some land they never even thought of before and kill people they never gave a rat's ass about either way, but they did. What makes the draft dodger so damn special?

They didn't want to go over to some land they never even thought of before and kill people they didn't know for no reason.

How did that war work out for ya? 

 For who?  I was like 6 when it ended.  WTF are you babbling about?

WTF am I talking about? I was responding to YOUR post about Viet Nam. 

 But you asked how it worked out for me--and I was only six.  I had no decision making capacity regarding that war.  

You as in the USA. Thousands of lives lost in a completely pointless war with no winners. 

 Uh, ok.  so you are saying you have no point.  Got it.

 How do you figure?

It was a completely senseless war that you had no business fighting. I wouldn't have fought in it either. Why kill for nothing? Why die for nothing? To prove I'm not a sissy?

(Again, you as in the USA. You seem to have trouble with that.)



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Monday 31st of August 2015 04:42:44 PM

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Hindsight is wonderful, isn't it? They didn't think it was "for nothing" when doing it. And you saying it pretty much trivializes their service and their death. That's just so insightful and enlightened of you.

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weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:

I don't see the distinction. Nearly ALL of our major wars have been fought using draftees--Civil (on both sides), WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam.

That's why I have no sympathy for Vietnam draft dodgers. A LOT of young men--my uncle included--would rather not have had to go over to some land they never even thought of before and kill people they never gave a rat's ass about either way, but they did. What makes the draft dodger so damn special?

They didn't want to go over to some land they never even thought of before and kill people they didn't know for no reason.

How did that war work out for ya? 

 For who?  I was like 6 when it ended.  WTF are you babbling about?

WTF am I talking about? I was responding to YOUR post about Viet Nam. 

 But you asked how it worked out for me--and I was only six.  I had no decision making capacity regarding that war.  

You as in the USA. Thousands of lives lost in a completely pointless war with no winners. 

 Uh, ok.  so you are saying you have no point.  Got it.

 How do you figure?

It was a completely senseless war that you had no business fighting. I wouldn't have fought in it either. Why kill for nothing? Why die for nothing? To prove I'm not a sissy?

(Again, you as in the USA. You seem to have trouble with that.)



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Monday 31st of August 2015 04:42:44 PM

Wanna see my shocked face?  You're Canadian.  Of course you're not gonna fight.  You're going to pitch a little hissy fit and stomp your feet.   



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weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:

I don't see the distinction. Nearly ALL of our major wars have been fought using draftees--Civil (on both sides), WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam.

That's why I have no sympathy for Vietnam draft dodgers. A LOT of young men--my uncle included--would rather not have had to go over to some land they never even thought of before and kill people they never gave a rat's ass about either way, but they did. What makes the draft dodger so damn special?

They didn't want to go over to some land they never even thought of before and kill people they didn't know for no reason.

How did that war work out for ya? 

 For who?  I was like 6 when it ended.  WTF are you babbling about?

WTF am I talking about? I was responding to YOUR post about Viet Nam. 

 But you asked how it worked out for me--and I was only six.  I had no decision making capacity regarding that war.  

You as in the USA. Thousands of lives lost in a completely pointless war with no winners. 

 Uh, ok.  so you are saying you have no point.  Got it.

 How do you figure?

It was a completely senseless war that you had no business fighting. I wouldn't have fought in it either. Why kill for nothing? Why die for nothing? To prove I'm not a sissy?

(Again, you as in the USA. You seem to have trouble with that.)



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Monday 31st of August 2015 04:42:44 PM

 I do have trouble with that.  How can anyone on here be expected to answer to that?  It's ridiculouss--and POINTLESS To bring up.



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Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:

I don't see the distinction. Nearly ALL of our major wars have been fought using draftees--Civil (on both sides), WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam.

That's why I have no sympathy for Vietnam draft dodgers. A LOT of young men--my uncle included--would rather not have had to go over to some land they never even thought of before and kill people they never gave a rat's ass about either way, but they did. What makes the draft dodger so damn special?

They didn't want to go over to some land they never even thought of before and kill people they didn't know for no reason.

How did that war work out for ya? 

 For who?  I was like 6 when it ended.  WTF are you babbling about?

WTF am I talking about? I was responding to YOUR post about Viet Nam. 

 But you asked how it worked out for me--and I was only six.  I had no decision making capacity regarding that war.  

You as in the USA. Thousands of lives lost in a completely pointless war with no winners. 

 Uh, ok.  so you are saying you have no point.  Got it.

 How do you figure?

It was a completely senseless war that you had no business fighting. I wouldn't have fought in it either. Why kill for nothing? Why die for nothing? To prove I'm not a sissy?

(Again, you as in the USA. You seem to have trouble with that.)



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Monday 31st of August 2015 04:42:44 PM

Wanna see my shocked face?  You're Canadian.  Of course you're not gonna fight.  You're going to pitch a little hissy fit and stomp your feet.   

 I think it can be very enlightening to see our country through the eyes of others.

Why the hatred?

flan



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Because I could really not care less what other countries think of us. ESPECIALLY Canada.

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Because I could really not care less what other countries think of us. ESPECIALLY Canada.

 It seems like you feel threatened, almost.

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Because I could really not care less what other countries think of us. ESPECIALLY Canada.

 It seems like you feel threatened, almost.

flan

Seriously? That's funny.  Threatened by whom?  Canadians? What in God's name do they do that should make me feel threatened? 



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