TOTALLY GEEKED!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

RE: Thoughtful Thursday

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

I don't care how good or bad a pet's temperament is, you don't bring a pet to anyone's house unless they are invited. Geesh. How rude is that?

I just heated up a brownie and alamode'd it with mint choc chip ice cream.

ed11563 · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
I don't care how good or bad a pet's temperament is, you don't bring a pet to anyone's house unless they are invited. Geesh. How rude is that?

I just heated up a brownie and alamode'd it with mint choc chip ice cream.

(yum)

NAOW · Vette's SS

I heard the Voldermont thing a long time ago, before I read the books or watched the movies- I don't remember where though.

NAOW · Vette's SS

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Not all special needs kids are violent. Sure, some are and those ones need to be dealt with but definitely not all of them.

Of course. But when someone is violent they need to be able to get them help.

We don't even know if this boy has special needs. One of my friends thinks he is in foster care with a bad home life. Which is heartbreaking.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

NAOW wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Not all special needs kids are violent. Sure, some are and those ones need to be dealt with but definitely not all of them.
Of course. But when someone is violent they need to be able to get them help.
We don't even know if this boy has special needs. One of my friends thinks he is in foster care with a bad home life. Which is heartbreaking.

Of course. I'm not sure violent kids should even be in the classroom with other "normal" kids.I think for those kids they should have a specially adapted classroom for them. I just hope people don't tell others to be careful of the special needs kids if they're not violent.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

NAOW wrote:
Lindley wrote:
NAOW wrote:
That is what I am wondering Lindley, because from what I have been reading is that the teachers are not allowed to restrain kids at all when they get like that, they have to remove all the other kids from the classroom, which is what was done, but that is really hard when there is one teacher to 20+ students, one of whom is being destructive.

She called me back, and said they had a meeting this morning, and that she doesn't think the kids' safety will be an issue going forward. She couldn't talk about another student, which I understand, but she did say she knows it was an issue and that they are actively working on it.
Yes that is one of the rules. I just do not think this is right. Not only for the other kids safety but the special needs child too. I don't know who makes up the rules but it is getting silly. Why should a child get hit or hurt because you are not allowed to restrain a child who is having a meltdown?
I agree. It's also frustrating that they can't tell me what happened. I know it involves another kid, but it involves my kid too and she is not the best at communicating the problem, what happened, what caused it, etc. It took me a few days to get all the details out of her and a few other kids to fill in the other blanks, and I am sure there is more that they just don't understand enough to tell me about.

I think it's absolutely ridiculous and stupid and unacceptable that they can't tell you what happened when your child was involved. I'd be livid.

And frankly, I am so against main-streaming special needs kids. It doesn't give those kids the extra help they need and it detracts from the rest of the kids in the class.

Aaaaaarrrrggggghhhhhhh!

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
She should have said something when they were making the movie. She had control over that...
ANY of the movies!
flan

The movie is about kids - they would have pronounced it wrong, anyway.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lawyerlady wrote:

I think it's absolutely ridiculous and stupid and unacceptable that they can't tell you what happened when your child was involved. I'd be livid.
And frankly, I am so against main-streaming special needs kids. It doesn't give those kids the extra help they need and it detracts from the rest of the kids in the class.
Aaaaaarrrrggggghhhhhhh!

Mainstreaming is an abysmal failure in my opinion. A lot of the kids that mainstream will never be able to go on to hold a meaningful job. The best they can hope for is to get a high school diploma and maybe work as a sacker at the grocery store or at fast food. They certainly cannot go to college with professors that do not give special privileges. Now, saying that there are some circumstances where I feel kids are on the border and can actually be helped by mainstreaming. But each case needs to be looked at individually. And honestly? If a child has a history of violence and/or acting out to the extent they hurt others they need to be removed from the normal classes and not mainstreamed. Teachers have enough on their hands trying to educate without all this nonsense.

NAOW · Vette's SS

Lawyerlady wrote:
NAOW wrote:
Lindley wrote:
NAOW wrote:
That is what I am wondering Lindley, because from what I have been reading is that the teachers are not allowed to restrain kids at all when they get like that, they have to remove all the other kids from the classroom, which is what was done, but that is really hard when there is one teacher to 20+ students, one of whom is being destructive.

She called me back, and said they had a meeting this morning, and that she doesn't think the kids' safety will be an issue going forward. She couldn't talk about another student, which I understand, but she did say she knows it was an issue and that they are actively working on it.
Yes that is one of the rules. I just do not think this is right. Not only for the other kids safety but the special needs child too. I don't know who makes up the rules but it is getting silly. Why should a child get hit or hurt because you are not allowed to restrain a child who is having a meltdown?
I agree. It's also frustrating that they can't tell me what happened. I know it involves another kid, but it involves my kid too and she is not the best at communicating the problem, what happened, what caused it, etc. It took me a few days to get all the details out of her and a few other kids to fill in the other blanks, and I am sure there is more that they just don't understand enough to tell me about.
I think it's absolutely ridiculous and stupid and unacceptable that they can't tell you what happened when your child was involved. I'd be livid.
And frankly, I am so against main-streaming special needs kids. It doesn't give those kids the extra help they need and it detracts from the rest of the kids in the class.
Aaaaaarrrrggggghhhhhhh!

I know. I really would like a grown up to sit down and lay out what happened, why, and in what order. They don't even have to use names if it makes them feel better (which is stupid too, since DD told me who it was).

Just 'So and so got upset in PE (they don't have to tell me why, unless it has to do with my kid) and he threw a fit and started yelling, hitting, and throwing rocks while Mrs.Teacher was trying to take control of the situation. He then picked up a rock and threw it, and unfortunately, it hit your DD in the face. As far as we know, him throwing it at her wasn't intentional. He has been suspended for his behavior, when he comes back he will have to give DD an apology. This is what we are planning to do going forward to better control these types of situations to make sure all of our students are safe...'

Also, I found out today that during the 'incident' on Friday he was screaming swear words. Every bad word in the book, according to my friend's little boy. DD didn't tell me that (probably because she didn't realize what was said). When they sent the note home, it was so generic and didn't include anything about that. I think it should have. A lot of kids, DD included, haven't heard those words and I would appreciate having a chance to explain what those words are and that they are unacceptable before she tests them out on her own.

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

I think that if my DD were being hit with hard objects (like rocks and metal boxes) in a classroom and the school was doing nothing to prevent it, I would be involving the police and having assault charges levied. Even if the child is special needs.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

They could have called NAOW the first day and informed her of what happened using "Another Student".

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

My best friend's 6yr old DD turns 7 in November and will be in the 2nd grade. She also has a classroom full of special needs children and I always remind my BF to get the police involved if she feels that the school isn't keeping her DD safe enough. Often police involvement will goose the school into making a new choice ....

NAOW · Vette's SS

Well, I went in today to do Friday folders and that particular kid is no longer in the class. I don't know where he went, but apparently their meeting to fix the issue was not just for show.