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Graphic video released of naked mentally ill woman who died in police custody after being tasered and put in a face mask by five deputies in biohazard suits

  • WARNING: DISTURBING CONTENT 
  • Natasha McKenna, 37, died in custody in Fairfax, Virginia, after being arrested for assaulting an officer
  • Her death, during a cell transfer in February, was ruled a 'tragic accident'
  • Video released on Thursday shows five deputies restraining McKenna
  • She was stunned four times in 17 minutes - and then stopped breathing
  • When she was let out of her cell, she is heard screaming: 'You promised you wouldn't kill me' 
  • Prosecutors ruled this week there was no crime committed by deputies 
  • The death remains the subject of a federal civil rights investigation
  • Fairfax County Adult Detention Center has since banned stun guns

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A video released Thursday shows a prolonged struggle between a naked, mentally ill inmate and five deputies in biohazard suits who shocked her four times with a stun gun before she lost consciousness.

The inmate, 37-year-old Natasha McKenna, died several days after the struggle, prompting a months-long criminal investigation. 

Thursday's release of the 45-minute video by Fairfax County Sheriff Stacey Kincaid comes after the county's lead prosecutor announced he would not file charges, calling the death a 'tragic accident'.

A medical examiner also ruled the death accidental, specifically by 'excited delirium' associated with use of restraints and a stun gun. 

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The video shows five deputies in biohazard suits, as well as other officers, restraining McKenna (above)

The video shows five deputies in biohazard suits, as well as other officers, restraining McKenna (above)

She is tasered four times over the course of 17 minutes, the footage shows

She is tasered four times over the course of 17 minutes, the footage shows

This frame, from video provided by the Fairfax County Sheriff, shows McKenna strapped to a chair with a hood over her head

This frame, from video provided by the Fairfax County Sheriff, shows McKenna strapped to a chair with a hood over her head

 

McKenna (pictured) was arrested for allegedly assaulting a police officer. She died after being shocked multiple times with a stun gun while struggling with deputies

McKenna's schizophrenia was listed as a contributing factor. 

The case remains the subject of a federal civil rights investigation.

The disturbing video, released on YouTube, begins with a deputy explaining that a special Emergency Response Team is being used to take McKenna, who is African-American, out of her cell at a jail in Fairfax and transfer her to a jail in Alexandria, where she had been charged with assaulting a police officer. 

The deputy says the team is needed because McKenna had previously attacked one of her jailers and because she had created a biohazard situation by throwing urine at guards.

A report released Tuesday by Commonwealth's Attorney Ray Morrogh indicated that deputies were also concerned because medical tests showed McKenna had multiple communicable diseases, including herpes and MRSA.

At the start of the encounter, a deputy says, 'Natasha, we're here to take you out,' and McKenna exclaims, 'You promised me you wouldn't kill me!'

The five deputies quickly wrestle the naked woman to the ground. 

They struggle for 15 to 20 minutes to get her cuffed and bound in a restraint chair, and warn her that she will be shot with a stun gun if she keeps resisting. 

It is unclear why she is not wearing any clothes.

This is the moment in the video where the deputies - assisted by a nurse (back right) - realize that McKenna has stopped breathing

This is the moment in the video where the deputies - assisted by a nurse (back right) - realize that McKenna has stopped breathing

The video shows the Taser being used four times toward the end of the struggle. 

The shocks occur over the course of about 17 minutes. 

Eventually, the deputies get McKenna restrained in the chair and put a lightweight hood called a 'spit sock' on her to prevent her from spitting at them.

A nurse then attempts to take McKenna's vital signs, though it is unclear whether the nurse gets an accurate reading at first.

A few minutes later, after McKenna is taken to a garage area for transfer, another attempt to take her vital signs goes badly - and deputies begin resuscitation efforts.

The footage shows the nurse first realizing McKenna not breathing around 35 minutes into the video. She had lost consciousness.

Then four days after the incident - on February 7 - McKenna was declared brain dead.

 
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Kincaid expressed her condolences to the McKenna family Thursday, and says she will launch an internal investigation now that the criminal probe is concluded.

She said she released the video because there is 'no better way for me to share what actually occurred' with the community. 

McKenna's death was one of two incidents in the county that prompted questions about excessive force by authorities. 

In 2013, a Fairfax County police officer shot a man, John Geer, while his hands were above his head during a standoff with police. 

The officer was charged with murder last month after a two-year investigation that prompted accusations of stonewalling.

Pete Earley, a mental health advocate who serves on a county commission evaluating police conduct, said he watched the McKenna video and questioned the need to use a Taser on McKenna. 

He said it was clear that deputies had McKenna under control during the encounter, even if they were struggling to put her in restraints.

'There is no better way for me to share what actually occurred than to make this video available to view for the community in its entirety,' says Fairfax County Sheriff Stacey Kincaid (pictured) at the start of the video

'There is no better way for me to share what actually occurred than to make this video available to view for the community in its entirety,' says Fairfax County Sheriff Stacey Kincaid (pictured) at the start of the video

McKenna was shocked four times  at Fairfax County Adult Detention Center in Virginia (above) on February 3

McKenna was shocked four times at Fairfax County Adult Detention Center in Virginia (above) on February 3

He said the video runs counter to the portrayal in Morrogh's report that McKenna displayed almost superhuman strength in her battles with deputies.

Despite his concerns, Earley said he was pleasantly surprised by the professional demeanor of deputies, who generally spoke calmly and politely to McKenna during the encounter, and he said he credits Kincaid for taking steps to address the broader problem of mentally ill people being kept in jails when they would be better served in a treatment facility.

Morrogh's report states that a day before the altercation with Alexandria police that led to her arrest, doctors had sought to have McKenna hospitalized, but were advised by police and two separate magistrates that she did not meet the conditions for hospitalizing a person against her will.

Harvey Volzer, a lawyer representing McKenna's family, did not immediately return an email seeking comment.



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Who was she harming in the cell? And, to taser her 4 times? Yeah, you are going to 'resist" when 4 people are sitting on you and you can't breathe. That is instinct that will take over so it will appear you are resisting.

If someone treated a noncompliant toddler like this, everyone would be outraged. But, the Police have no clue how to deal with the mentally ill.

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So let me get this straight.

The police are not supposed to do anything at all? Ever?



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Wow Lilly. Doctors and nurses have been dealing with violent mentally ill patients for decades. They do it successfully and without killing their patients. She was schizophrenic having a hissy inside her jail cell. She wasn't a danger to anybody. Go in, restrain her, inject her with a sedative and then step out. Go back in 20 min later and dress her and put her in restraints. It doesn't require a swat team to taser and kill a naked woman.

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So let me get this straight.

The police are not supposed to do anything at all? Ever?


This is one of the most ridiculous comments you have made by far. 



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So let me get this straight.

The police are not supposed to do anything at all? Ever?


This is one of the most ridiculous comments you have made by far. 


And there have been many others...but I agree!

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This is another problem with our lack of mental health care facilities. This woman could have been transferred to a facility that knows how to care for her.

We need asylums back. And separate holding facilities for the mentally ill criminals.

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Yes, we used to have more mental health hospitals. Now, the mentally ill just sleep on the street.

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Doctors and nurses are supposed to deal with this.

The police are not.

They WERE attempting to restrain her.

The police are not doctors and nurses.

And life isn't a movie. Two people won't swoop in and instantly restrain and inject and the person just fall out.

A person lost their life. That is sad.

But don't get so wrapped up in the emotions you lose sight of the fact that she was in jail. Something got her put in there.





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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Yes, we used to have more mental health hospitals. Now, the mentally ill just sleep on the street.


 Well. There were large facilities where the mentally ill were housed. And tortured.  And experimented on. And mistreated. And left to rot.

 



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Doctors and nurses are supposed to deal with this.

The police are not.

They WERE attempting to restrain her.

The police are not doctors and nurses.

And life isn't a movie. Two people won't swoop in and instantly restrain and inject and the person just fall out.

A person lost their life. That is sad.

But don't get so wrapped up in the emotions you lose sight of the fact that she was in jail. Something got her put in there.




No, life isn't a movie.  Life isn't a Swat team swooping in to kill a naked mentally ill woman.  Or, maybe it is.  You just seem to assume there is NO other way OTHER than just gunning everyone down.   



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She wasn't gunned down.

Did you not read your own post?

This happened while attempting to take her out of the cell. To transfer her to another facility.

She died several days AFTER the incident.

She wasn't gunned down.

She fought and they restrained her.

The police are not there to hold your hand and talk you into participating.

They are there to do a job.

You want coddling, call your mom. If you are in jail, do what your told and shut up.


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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Yes, we used to have more mental health hospitals. Now, the mentally ill just sleep on the street.


 Well. There were large facilities where the mentally ill were housed. And tortured.  And experimented on. And mistreated. And left to rot.

 


And you KNOW that is NOT what she meant!

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It just keeps getting worse & worse...



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I agree, there were some bad mental health hospitals. But, not sure how being tasered and killed is somehow preferable in Lilly's mind.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

I agree, there were some bad mental health hospitals. But, not sure how being tasered and killed is somehow preferable in Lilly's mind.


I can't begin to explain Lily's mind.

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Yes, we used to have more mental health hospitals. Now, the mentally ill just sleep on the street.


 Well. There were large facilities where the mentally ill were housed. And tortured.  And experimented on. And mistreated. And left to rot.

 


And we no longer use leeches for bloodletting...

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Well, actually we DO use leeches flan. Many plastic surgeons employ leeches.

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Well, actually we DO use leeches flan. Many plastic surgeons employ leeches.


 Leeches are still used for other things, too.



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I agree, there were some bad mental health hospitals. But, not sure how being tasered and killed is somehow preferable in Lilly's mind.


 Yes, of course I meant that we should go back to torturing the insane.  Why did we stop?  evileyenodisbelief

 

 



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I agree, there were some bad mental health hospitals. But, not sure how being tasered and killed is somehow preferable in Lilly's mind.


 Yes, of course I meant that we should go back to torturing the insane.  Why did we stop?  evileyenodisbelief

 

 


They deserve it.  Those schizophrenics just won't listen. 



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

I agree, there were some bad mental health hospitals. But, not sure how being tasered and killed is somehow preferable in Lilly's mind.


 There was an article I posted on her about autistic kids being treated with shock therapy.

The consensus was "if it works".

But here is a woman fighting against police officers, a woman who needed 5 men to restrain het, and you want to get sheepish about her being tazed?

 

At one time, she would have been beaten and or shot. 

It seems the general thought is that the police should stand back and do nothing. Ever.

Like I said, she was in jail. She did something to put herself there. 

She is the one resisting. She was not gunned down. She earned her fate. 

You seem to be all for personal responsibility until it's time for it.

 



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I agree, there were some bad mental health hospitals. But, not sure how being tasered and killed is somehow preferable in Lilly's mind.


 Yes, of course I meant that we should go back to torturing the insane.  Why did we stop?  evileyenodisbelief

 

 


 You seem to want to lock them away. Out of your world.

Who cares where?

Oh. But don't stop them from hurting them selves. Or others. 

 



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Paging Dr. Freeman.



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I agree, there were some bad mental health hospitals. But, not sure how being tasered and killed is somehow preferable in Lilly's mind.


 Yes, of course I meant that we should go back to torturing the insane.  Why did we stop?  evileyenodisbelief

 

 


 You seem to want to lock them away. Out of your world.

Who cares where?

Oh. But don't stop them from hurting them selves. Or others. 

 


That is absolutely NOT what I said.  They need treatment facilities instead of being put in regular jails.  They need a place they can be treated where they won't hurt themselves or others with people trained to care for them rather than kill them. 

Where the hell you get your ideas from is anybody's guess.  You never mean what you say, and assume others mean things they don't say.



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I agree, there were some bad mental health hospitals. But, not sure how being tasered and killed is somehow preferable in Lilly's mind.


 There was an article I posted on her about autistic kids being treated with shock therapy.

The consensus was "if it works".

But here is a woman fighting against police officers, a woman who needed 5 men to restrain het, and you want to get sheepish about her being tazed?

 

At one time, she would have been beaten and or shot. 

It seems the general thought is that the police should stand back and do nothing. Ever.

Like I said, she was in jail. She did something to put herself there. 

She is the one resisting. She was not gunned down. She earned her fate. 

You seem to be all for personal responsibility until it's time for it.

 


 She is ACTUALLY, GENUINELY, mentally ill.  She is NOT responsible for her actions.  Geesh.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

I agree, there were some bad mental health hospitals. But, not sure how being tasered and killed is somehow preferable in Lilly's mind.


 There was an article I posted on her about autistic kids being treated with shock therapy.

The consensus was "if it works".

But here is a woman fighting against police officers, a woman who needed 5 men to restrain het, and you want to get sheepish about her being tazed?

 

At one time, she would have been beaten and or shot. 

It seems the general thought is that the police should stand back and do nothing. Ever.

Like I said, she was in jail. She did something to put herself there. 

She is the one resisting. She was not gunned down. She earned her fate. 

You seem to be all for personal responsibility until it's time for it.

 


They tazed her multiple times.  She died.  She didnt' "earn her fate".  Your lack of compassion is astounding.    



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I agree, there were some bad mental health hospitals. But, not sure how being tasered and killed is somehow preferable in Lilly's mind.


 Yes, of course I meant that we should go back to torturing the insane.  Why did we stop?  evileyenodisbelief

 

 


 You seem to want to lock them away. Out of your world.

Who cares where?

Oh. But don't stop them from hurting them selves. Or others. 

 


OMG!  You are losing it.  I never said any such thing.  You are going off the deep end here.  They need to be treated and yes, some NEED to be permanently institutionalized.  Wow. 



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So, let me understand this. I say we need asylums and mental health professionals, and that means to you I want people tortured and then killed. And yet you say she deserved it because of her behavior giving no consideration for her mental illness.

I think you are the one who has a serious issue with caring about others.

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Did ya'll miss the part where it said this whole thing started when they were attempting to transfer her to another facility?



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But Lily is such an amazing Christian...

With ZERO compassion for others.

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As for caring for her, the police are NOT doctors. They are not for caring for mentally ill people.

They only hold them.

The police are not and should not be care givers of the mentally ill.



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Let's look at it.

They go in to transfer her.

She begins fighting.

What should they have done?

I mean now that you have the benefit of hind sight.

How should they have handled this?

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Let's look at it.

They go in to transfer her.

She begins fighting.

What should they have done?

I mean now that you have the benefit of hind sight.

How should they have handled this?


 They should have left her in there and called a doctor to sedate her.



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Let's look at it.

They go in to transfer her.

She begins fighting.

What should they have done?

I mean now that you have the benefit of hind sight.

How should they have handled this?


Ok, let me explain because I have personally dealt with these situations.  You leave her alone in her cell.  Give her some time like a time out.  Then if she continues to be belligerent or out of control, you go in and give her an injection of Haldol, Xanax or some type of benzo, antipsychotic, etc.  Then, you let that work and come in and DRESS her and put in her restraints.  You DON'T kill the patient.  Wow. 



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As for caring for her, the police are NOT doctors. They are not for caring for mentally ill people.

They only hold them.

The police are not and should not be care givers of the mentally ill.


No, they aren't.  But they are supposed to protect the public.  We would not accept this from ANY other profession.  No way.  We expect professional people to be trained as professionals and to be trained in the manner that causes the least harm while protecting the public.  And, also causes the least harm to those that they are dealing with.  Yes, there are situation of life or death and police should absolutely have that option to protect themselves.  This was in NO WAY the case here whatsoever.  And, because the police are dealing much more with these situations they need additional training or we need to set up a Pyschiatric liason or something. 

  Well, next time a kid acts out at daycare, then OF COURSE the day care providers should simply just kill that kid.  I mean, WHAT ESLE DO YOU WANT THEM TO DO?  Dealing with the mentally ill is much like dealing with toddlers. 



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She was naked because in prison, when you get put in a psych room for any reason whatsoever, the first thing they do is strip you. You get a blanket/snuggie type garment that cannot be unraveled to make into a rope. It's very dehumanizing. She wasn't naked by choice - she was naked by policy. I just wanted to clear up why she was naked because I do think that makes a difference on the overall impression of her.

I don't care how belligerent she was, there is no need to taser someone 4 times in short succession like that. It's against the rules and it is just plain stupid. If you can't restrain her, leave and allow her to calm down. She will hurt exactly no one in a cell by herself. Let her tire herself out and when she is calmer, go in with a doc/nurse and give her a sedative. These people were negligent.



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So let her calm down.

How long?

Should they keep those drugs at the jail?

Who calls the doctor?

What about the other inmates?

When they line up a transfer, how long should it all be on hold?

There is much, much more to handling this kind of thing than sticking a needle in them.

She needed 5 people and a tazed to restrain her.

Do you really think a single person is going to be able to go in and inject a sedative?

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The police there aren't trained in Nonviolent Crisis Intervention?
That's not good.

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So let her calm down.

How long?

Should they keep those drugs at the jail?

Who calls the doctor?

What about the other inmates?

When they line up a transfer, how long should it all be on hold?

There is much, much more to handling this kind of thing than sticking a needle in them.

She needed 5 people and a tazed to restrain her.

Do you really think a single person is going to be able to go in and inject a sedative?


 As long as it takes.

They already HAVE those drugs at the jail, the nurse has access to them. 

The nurse on duty calls the doctor. There is protocol for this - the jail just didn't follow it. 

She was placed in a cell alone - other inmates are not a concern. 

They can call and cancel the transfer just as easily as they set it up. It isn't a nuke - they can "undo" it. 

 

There are logical answers to all your um, illogical questions. I find it laughable that someone with as much experience in breaking the law as you claim to have, doesn't think the jail has procedures to adhere to when it comes to dealing with the mentally ill. Thsee people didn't follow procedures. And if they don't have the procedures in place, that's criminal too. I know several people who work in the intake at local jails. They have procedures to deal with people who have a MI. It's a matter of using your head and not tasing someone 4 times. That's not allowed. 



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So let her calm down.

How long?

Should they keep those drugs at the jail?

Who calls the doctor?

What about the other inmates?

When they line up a transfer, how long should it all be on hold?

There is much, much more to handling this kind of thing than sticking a needle in them.

She needed 5 people and a tazed to restrain her.

Do you really think a single person is going to be able to go in and inject a sedative?


You act like that is impossible.  This is literally done ALL the time in dealing with the mentally ill.  And, we are going to have a wave of a lot of autistic adults and so forth who are growing up.  I guess police should mow them all down if they don't comply within 1. 5 sec of being screamed at.  Or, the elderly with alzheimers or anything else.  These situations have been managed for YEARS in non violent and non lethal ways.  For some reason we are accepting the rise of the Police State in America. 



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She was naked because in prison, when you get put in a psych room for any reason whatsoever, the first thing they do is strip you. You get a blanket/snuggie type garment that cannot be unraveled to make into a rope. It's very dehumanizing. She wasn't naked by choice - she was naked by policy. I just wanted to clear up why she was naked because I do think that makes a difference on the overall impression of her.

I don't care how belligerent she was, there is no need to taser someone 4 times in short succession like that. It's against the rules and it is just plain stupid. If you can't restrain her, leave and allow her to calm down. She will hurt exactly no one in a cell by herself. Let her tire herself out and when she is calmer, go in with a doc/nurse and give her a sedative. These people were negligent.


Yes, I would think there is some policy on how many times you can Taser someone who isn't threatening your life.  That is criminal. 



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I find it entertaining that so many have all the answers after the fact. It's very easy to sit behind a computer screen and say what the police should have done with all the after the fact information.

I have seen how the police treat a prisoner when they don't comply.

It isn't pretty.

They dont, and shouldnt, coddle the prisoner.

As someone stuck listening to the screaming for hours at a time, I was more than thankful when they shut the crazy inmate up.

I've also seen how they take control of a suicidal prisoner.

She was in my cell. I was relieved when they came in and forced her to comply and took her out.

Any discord in a jail can quickly become dangerous for everyone in there. Even if the inmate is in a cell alone.


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Not killing her isn't coddling.



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Guess they could have let her rant and rave.

Causing chaos for the jail.

Just let every inmate throw a fit.



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I agree, there were some bad mental health hospitals. But, not sure how being tasered and killed is somehow preferable in Lilly's mind.


 Yes, of course I meant that we should go back to torturing the insane.  Why did we stop?  evileyenodisbelief

 

 


They deserve it.  Those schizophrenics just won't listen. 


 Did you ever stop to think about that statement?  Schizophrenics when going through one on their episodes will do awful injury to themselves, they will stop at nothing.  I think that is what the police were dealing with.  They can't state that since there is an investigation.  She was harming herself and the police were trying to stop her from doing so.  I don't know if they were allowed to sedate her instead, maybe not, don't assume that.



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Well, then thank God the Police got to kill her before she killed herself!

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BTW, where does it say she was harming herself? Here is the reason they went in:

The deputy says the team is needed because McKenna had previously attacked one of her jailers and because she had created a biohazard situation by throwing urine at guards.

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Seems like a good reason to me.

Or should she have been allowed to continue?



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