TOTALLY GEEKED!

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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They were trying to keep her safe from herself.

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Well, they certainly did a bang-up job of that, didn't they?

I'm out as well. I can't stand the utter heartlessness in here. I feel like a need a bath to wash the stink off. 

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The hottest bath in the world wouldn't help.

flan 

And for the record I don't believe they intended to kill her.
I hope this incident causes major overhauling of procedures and how things are done....but without hindsight going into a cell and the prisoner keeps coming at you.....in that moment.....what are you to do?

Rememer the case of the mentally ill teen who was killed after charging the police with a knife? I think we discussed it on the GT. Was the officer to let the kid stab him to death because he was mentally ill?
And at the root....this woman was arrested for assault.....

In some cases I really think the police just can't win.

Throwing pee at someone in a biohazard suit and stabbing some one with a knife are 2 TOTALLY different things.

Oh well somewhere somebody launched a nuke at police so ya know! What do u expect them to do? Waahh.

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weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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They were in biohazard suits. There was no risk to them whatsover.

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So what?  They shouldn't have to put up with someone throwing PEE on them while they work.  Do you have to put up with that at your job? 

 

That's RIDICULOUS.  She brought this on herself.  On what planet is it somehow ok to throw your PEE????  If you do that, and some big guys in suits jump your ass and taze you--you deserved it.

 

This is a classic case of an oxygen bandit.  Maybe she didn't exactly "deserve" to die--but the world isn't going to miss her, either.   

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Wow! I can't believe I'm reading this. What a cold, despicable post. 

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 Horrible.   You dare to call a human being an oxygen bandit?  A human being.  A HUMAN BEING.   You, sir, have no idea what she has accomplished, who loved her, what she would have accomplished.  Perhaps she was a mother.  Perhaps she was an accomplished mathematical genius before schizophrenia claimed her mind. Perhaps she volunteered at the humane society.  Perhaps she had the most beautiful garden in her neighborhood.  Perhaps she gave birth to the scientist who will cure cancer. You know only a micro-fraction of her life and you dare to say she had no worth?   

 

 

 

 

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Blah, blah, blah.  Someone loved Charles Manson, too--and Jeffrey Dahmer.  So what?  

That means NOTHING.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Sunday 13th of September 2015 12:19:01 AM

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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They were trying to keep her safe from herself.

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By killing her...GREAT IDEA!

flan 

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You are the world's biggest hypocrite.  You are in favor of KILLING BABIES, who have done nothing wrong, and yet will defend someone who ATTACKED at least two other people.   

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Throwing pee at someone in a biohazard suit and stabbing some one with a knife are 2 TOTALLY different things.

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Who fvcking care?  You say this sh!t as if it actually has some relevance--it most assuredly does not. 

 

On what planet is it somehow ok to throw YOUR PISS???? 

 

If you do that--then you deserve a beat down.  It's unfortunate she died, but the world isn't worse off.   

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 Husker, I have quite honestly never seen a more disgusting post out of you.

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huskerbb wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Throwing pee at someone in a biohazard suit and stabbing some one with a knife are 2 TOTALLY different things.

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Who fvcking care?  You say this sh!t as if it actually has some relevance--it most assuredly does not. 

 

On what planet is it somehow ok to throw YOUR PISS???? 

 

If you do that--then you deserve a beat down.  It's unfortunate she died, but the world isn't worse off.   

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 Husker, I have quite honestly never seen a more disgusting post out of you.

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So it's ok for an ADULT to throw their piss on people?  Not to mention that she attacked TWO officers. 

 

Right.   

MyNameIsJoe wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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MyNameIsJoe wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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They were in biohazard suits. There was no risk to them whatsover.

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So what?  They shouldn't have to put up with someone throwing PEE on them while they work.  Do you have to put up with that at your job? 

 

That's RIDICULOUS.  She brought this on herself.  On what planet is it somehow ok to throw your PEE????  If you do that, and some big guys in suits jump your ass and taze you--you deserved it.

 

This is a classic case of an oxygen bandit.  Maybe she didn't exactly "deserve" to die--but the world isn't going to miss her, either.   

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Wow! I can't believe I'm reading this. What a cold, despicable post. 

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 Horrible.   You dare to call a human being an oxygen bandit?  A human being.  A HUMAN BEING.   You, sir, have no idea what she has accomplished, who loved her, what she would have accomplished.  Perhaps she was a mother.  Perhaps she was an accomplished mathematical genius before schizophrenia claimed her mind. Perhaps she volunteered at the humane society.  Perhaps she had the most beautiful garden in her neighborhood.  Perhaps she gave birth to the scientist who will cure cancer. You know only a micro-fraction of her life and you dare to say she had no worth?   

 

 

 

 

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Blah, blah, blah.  Someone loved Charles Manson, too--and Jeffrey Dahmer.  So what?  

That means NOTHING.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Sunday 13th of September 2015 12:19:01 AM

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 You're absolutely daft.  

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So, you have no argument. 

Your premise was that because someone is loved by someone else (which, we actually do not know if it is true in this case, but I'll play along and assume it is) then they have value.

I put forth examples of people who, most in society, would deem do not really have value--even though someone loves/loved each of them. 

That is not the acid test.  Everyone who knew him thought Dennis Rader was a great guy, too.  Doesn't mean he was.   

 

Beyond that, EVERYONE whom the police give a beat down to probably has someone that loves them.  Does that mean they don't or didn't deserve a beat down?  Maybe in a few cases they didn't--but very few, and not for that reason. 

-- Edited by huskerbb on Sunday 13th of September 2015 11:17:15 AM

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husker, you just keep making things worse...

flan

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Worse how?  No one has even been able to address my arguments, so I'm winning.   

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huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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husker, you just keep making things worse...

flan

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Worse how?  No one has even been able to address my arguments, so I'm winning.   

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EVERYONE has pointed out the fallacy in your arguments. 

flan

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No, they have not.  They keep blathering on about irrelevant information such as mentally ill, people loved her, blah, blah, blah--which has NOTHING to do with the situation. 

Mary, My father is a retired CofP, my stepfather retired as a guard from an Alaskan penitentiary, 3 siblings are currently leos in various communities, my ex spouse is currently an leo in a major metropolitan city. Each one has expressed disgust at this situation. They are all in disbelief that she was tazed in quick succession. Much like My Cousin Vinnie, I'm qualified to say your statement is invalid.

As for husker, what are you arguing? I didn't argue about her being killed. I took you to task for saying she was an oxygen bandit and the world wouldn't miss her. You have nothing to base that on and you were clearly talking out of your ass.

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Mary, My father is a retired CofP, my stepfather retired as a guard from an Alaskan penitentiary, 3 siblings are currently leos in various communities, my ex spouse is currently an leo in a major metropolitan city. Each one has expressed disgust at this situation. They are all in disbelief that she was tazed in quick succession. Much like My Cousin Vinnie, I'm qualified to say your statement is invalid.

As for husker, what are you arguing? I didn't argue about her being killed. I took you to task for saying she was an oxygen bandit and the world wouldn't miss her. You have nothing to base that on and you were clearly talking out of your ass.

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 Thank you!

I think that's exactly what many of us are saying.

flan

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Mary, My father is a retired CofP, my stepfather retired as a guard from an Alaskan penitentiary, 3 siblings are currently leos in various communities, my ex spouse is currently an leo in a major metropolitan city. Each one has expressed disgust at this situation. They are all in disbelief that she was tazed in quick succession. Much like My Cousin Vinnie, I'm qualified to say your statement is invalid.

As for husker, what are you arguing? I didn't argue about her being killed. I took you to task for saying she was an oxygen bandit and the world wouldn't miss her. You have nothing to base that on and you were clearly talking out of your ass.

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It won't.   

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MyNameIsJoe wrote:

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Mary, My father is a retired CofP, my stepfather retired as a guard from an Alaskan penitentiary, 3 siblings are currently leos in various communities, my ex spouse is currently an leo in a major metropolitan city. Each one has expressed disgust at this situation. They are all in disbelief that she was tazed in quick succession. Much like My Cousin Vinnie, I'm qualified to say your statement is invalid.

As for husker, what are you arguing? I didn't argue about her being killed. I took you to task for saying she was an oxygen bandit and the world wouldn't miss her. You have nothing to base that on and you were clearly talking out of your ass.

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It won't.   

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 Will the world miss you when you die?

If Flan was in a biohazard suit and it was her job to help get control of the situation she sure as Hell wouldnt kill her.

And once again, the intent wasn't to kill her.

Ya'll fail to get that.

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Flan, if you were sitting in a restaurant, or at work in your library and someone came up and threw a cup of piss in your face, I highly doubt you would think it's "no big deal" like you are saying here.

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Oh, FFS!   I've lost count of how many times I've had pee thrown at me. You wash it off and continue to go about your day. (and I don't even wear a biohazard suit at work). It's all part of the job.

You don't kill the patient.

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 I was going to say this.  But then I decided not to.  Not just pee either.  The nursing home patients like to throw poop.

The only time it was ever an issue for me was when a patient with MRSA threw his urine and hit me in the eyes. Because it was in my eyes there was a SLIM chance I could catch something. I had to take antibiotics for awhile JIC.

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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The only time it was ever an issue for me was when a patient with MRSA threw his urine and hit me in the eyes. Because it was in my eyes there was a SLIM chance I could catch something. I had to take antibiotics for awhile JIC.

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 But you didn't kill him, did you?

flan

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 No.  He was a mess.  He was a paraplegic.  He'd been transporting drugs across state lines.  When he got caught he jumped off a ten foot bridge hitting the water and severing his spine.  It also left him with serious brain damage.  He was violent and would throw stuff.  I often wanted to give his mom a beat down because she told us all the time that he was framed and that her little boy (he was in his 30's) had never done drugs.  And whenever he would scream out for a hit she used to tell us he was a carpenter and that's what he meant.  And she was constantly complaining about the staff.  I think I might have tazed her once given the chance.  j/k

She was a trip. I hate to say it but I was so glad when she took her son somewhere else. The patient himself wasn't bad. He couldn't help what he did. The mother could.

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MyNameIsJoe wrote:

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Mary, My father is a retired CofP, my stepfather retired as a guard from an Alaskan penitentiary, 3 siblings are currently leos in various communities, my ex spouse is currently an leo in a major metropolitan city. Each one has expressed disgust at this situation. They are all in disbelief that she was tazed in quick succession. Much like My Cousin Vinnie, I'm qualified to say your statement is invalid.

As for husker, what are you arguing? I didn't argue about her being killed. I took you to task for saying she was an oxygen bandit and the world wouldn't miss her. You have nothing to base that on and you were clearly talking out of your ass.

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It won't.   

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 Will the world miss you when you die?

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I have no idea.  Not for me to say.  

In general, however, the world will miss productive people who contribute to society more than those who do not.   

A friend of mine was killed by a drunk driver. But it's OK.....I'm sure he didn't intend to kill Marco when he got behind the wheel of a car.