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Yeah, podunk jails would have a specific mental health intake and 5 extra cops to taze a woman to death. That makes perfect sense. Perfect.

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No, YOU said you come from a family of cops. Now you say you don't. And no, getting put in the little local jail is not the same as county jail. Yes, there ARE different types of jails. I would of thought someone coming from such a family of cops would know that.


 No, I actually do.  That was sarcasm.  Sarcasm due to your snotty comment about not taking the word of someone on the internet who claims to have a family of cops.  Geez.  I can't do this.  I'm going to watch some paint dry.



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As I have patiently explained, and you fail to understand, though I don't know why since you are supposedly so bright about all things cops, this woman was not in COUNTY lock up. I live in a fairly good sized suburb but if you get arrested on a Friday night for something they will take you to the little lock up at the police station, MANNED BY THEIR POLICE OFFICERS, NOT JAILERS, until the judge decides where you should go.

For someone supposedly so knowledgeable of the police you have very little actual knowledge.

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No, YOU said you come from a family of cops. Now you say you don't. And no, getting put in the little local jail is not the same as county jail. Yes, there ARE different types of jails. I would of thought someone coming from such a family of cops would know that.


 No, I actually do.  That was sarcasm.  Sarcasm due to your snotty comment about not taking the word of someone on the internet who claims to have a family of cops.  Geez.  I can't do this.  I'm going to watch some paint dry.


 Maybe you should go eat something.  You really don't seem yourself lately.  You seem quite grouchy in fact.



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Yeah, podunk jails would have a specific mental health intake and 5 extra cops to taze a woman to death. That makes perfect sense. Perfect.


 Ours does.



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Right. I'm the one having comprehension issues. (Sarcasm)


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Yeah, podunk jails would have a specific mental health intake and 5 extra cops to taze a woman to death. That makes perfect sense. Perfect.


 Ours does.


 Then our definitions of podunk are not the same.  Podunk in my world is less than 1200 people.



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Your whole point is worthless. She was schizophrenic. So Narcan isn't even the issue here. Go eat a big old ham sandwich. Really. You'll feel better after you do.

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Yeah, podunk jails would have a specific mental health intake and 5 extra cops to taze a woman to death. That makes perfect sense. Perfect.


 Ours does.


 Then our definitions of podunk are not the same.  Podunk in my world is less than 1200 people.


 Well, our definitions probably are different.  You believe nasal spray is the same as an injection.



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Well, I have the right to post whatever the fvck I want and I will continue to do so. Thank god you are NOT a moderator. If I want to post about my toe nails I will. I don't give a rat's azz if you think I post too much drama. I do NOT always have drama but yeah, my dog did have a seizure. Remind if your dog gets run over or something to say you have no right to post about it.

You have so little compassion for someone so righteous.


 I have to giggle because you started the call out against lily. Just remember you can always walk away (or are you just too "reactive"?).



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Flan.....

I'm not going to bother.
The whole thing.... verbal sparring.... unarmed opponent....


You know you say a whole hell of alot of off the wall stuff but I can acknowledge that your opinion is as valid as mine without making it personal or histrionic.
And don't think it actually makes you more popular.....tends to have the reverse effect.
Well I wasn't going to engage but I did. Now go ahead... "oh Mary" me again.


Frankly, I could not care less about being "popular."

But thanks for the insult.

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 Hahahahaha...That's all you try to do and it does make you look foolish and fake'



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Everyone else keeps talking about this too. Not just Lily kind of the point of a board Mkay?
I don't think anyone is really disputing that a better protocol needs to be in place. Unfortunately sometimes it takes something bad to draw attention to the holes. Sad but true.


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Holy sh!t. I actually agree with TD on something.

NO ONE is saying they should have killed her--but they did not deliberately do so. When you attack officers and throw pee on them--don't expect good things to happen. Just a little heads up.

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Holy sh!t. I actually agree with TD on something.

NO ONE is saying they should have killed her--but they did not deliberately do so. When you attack officers and throw pee on them--don't expect good things to happen. Just a little heads up.


 This is not a good day...

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Well, I have the right to post whatever the fvck I want and I will continue to do so. Thank god you are NOT a moderator. If I want to post about my toe nails I will. I don't give a rat's azz if you think I post too much drama. I do NOT always have drama but yeah, my dog did have a seizure. Remind if your dog gets run over or something to say you have no right to post about it.

You have so little compassion for someone so righteous.


 I have to giggle because you started the call out against lily. Just remember you can always walk away (or are you just too "reactive"?).


 So basically your job on this board is to go from thread to thread posting and calling out the rudeness of others?   Didn't anyone tell you that the height of rudeness is to point out rudeness?  You act like the board police and try to round up little groups of people who can "be mad at the offender".  You really need some help.



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Well, I have the right to post whatever the fvck I want and I will continue to do so. Thank god you are NOT a moderator. If I want to post about my toe nails I will. I don't give a rat's azz if you think I post too much drama. I do NOT always have drama but yeah, my dog did have a seizure. Remind if your dog gets run over or something to say you have no right to post about it.

You have so little compassion for someone so righteous.


 I have to giggle because you started the call out against lily. Just remember you can always walk away (or are you just too "reactive"?).


 So basically your job on this board is to go from thread to thread posting and calling out the rudeness of others?   Didn't anyone tell you that the height of rudeness is to point out rudeness?  You act like the board police and try to round up little groups of people who can "be mad at the offender".  You really need some help.


 Board police? Then you must be too because that's exactly what you told me when I argued with flan. Funny you don't remember. Hypocrite much?



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Wow, nice to take a pm public.

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What pm? You did it right out in public. Go back and read what you wrote at the time.

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Well, I have the right to post whatever the fvck I want and I will continue to do so. Thank god you are NOT a moderator. If I want to post about my toe nails I will. I don't give a rat's azz if you think I post too much drama. I do NOT always have drama but yeah, my dog did have a seizure. Remind if your dog gets run over or something to say you have no right to post about it.

You have so little compassion for someone so righteous.


 I have to giggle because you started the call out against lily. Just remember you can always walk away (or are you just too "reactive"?).


 So basically your job on this board is to go from thread to thread posting and calling out the rudeness of others?   Didn't anyone tell you that the height of rudeness is to point out rudeness?  You act like the board police and try to round up little groups of people who can "be mad at the offender".  You really need some help.


 

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Well, I have the right to post whatever the fvck I want and I will continue to do so. Thank god you are NOT a moderator. If I want to post about my toe nails I will. I don't give a rat's azz if you think I post too much drama. I do NOT always have drama but yeah, my dog did have a seizure. Remind if your dog gets run over or something to say you have no right to post about it.

You have so little compassion for someone so righteous.


 I have to giggle because you started the call out against lily. Just remember you can always walk away (or are you just too "reactive"?).


 So basically your job on this board is to go from thread to thread posting and calling out the rudeness of others?   Didn't anyone tell you that the height of rudeness is to point out rudeness?  You act like the board police and try to round up little groups of people who can "be mad at the offender".  You really need some help.


 

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 Hahahaha... Calling me the board police when you both try do that same thing to others is really funny. Coming from either one of you is laughable. NJN you tell me not to fight with flan when you argue with lily like a fishwife and flan you just argue with everyone so...



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Tinydancer wrote:
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Well, I have the right to post whatever the fvck I want and I will continue to do so. Thank god you are NOT a moderator. If I want to post about my toe nails I will. I don't give a rat's azz if you think I post too much drama. I do NOT always have drama but yeah, my dog did have a seizure. Remind if your dog gets run over or something to say you have no right to post about it.

You have so little compassion for someone so righteous.


 I have to giggle because you started the call out against lily. Just remember you can always walk away (or are you just too "reactive"?).


 So basically your job on this board is to go from thread to thread posting and calling out the rudeness of others?   Didn't anyone tell you that the height of rudeness is to point out rudeness?  You act like the board police and try to round up little groups of people who can "be mad at the offender".  You really need some help.


 

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 Hahahaha... Calling me the board police when you both try do that same thing to others is really funny. Coming from either one of you is laughable. NJN you tell me not to fight with flan when you argue with lily like a fishwife and flan you just argue with everyone so...


 Apparently the mentally ill population is increasing at a rapid rate.



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Well, I have the right to post whatever the fvck I want and I will continue to do so. Thank god you are NOT a moderator. If I want to post about my toe nails I will. I don't give a rat's azz if you think I post too much drama. I do NOT always have drama but yeah, my dog did have a seizure. Remind if your dog gets run over or something to say you have no right to post about it.

You have so little compassion for someone so righteous.


 I have to giggle because you started the call out against lily. Just remember you can always walk away (or are you just too "reactive"?).


 So basically your job on this board is to go from thread to thread posting and calling out the rudeness of others?   Didn't anyone tell you that the height of rudeness is to point out rudeness?  You act like the board police and try to round up little groups of people who can "be mad at the offender".  You really need some help.


 

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 Hahahaha... Calling me the board police when you both try do that same thing to others is really funny. Coming from either one of you is laughable. NJN you tell me not to fight with flan when you argue with lily like a fishwife and flan you just argue with everyone so...


 Apparently the mentally ill population is increasing at a rapid rate.


 Are you admitting to losing your mind then?



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 Are you admitting to losing your mind then?


 I'm fine.



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 Are you admitting to losing your mind then?


 I'm fine.


 Glad to hear it.



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So I read this whole article over last night and I noticed a couple things. There WAS a nurse present. So there was no reason why this woman couldn't be medicated. Also, the police assessed her mental illness and found she didn't fit the criteria. So that would be a total fail on their part. AND, if a nurse was there it's even more of a fail because she should have figured that out. But they said because she didn't fit the criteria for mental illness she was left in jail and not transported to a mental facility. I think it was the cops fault. They need to be trained to handle this. This woman had all the classic signs of schizophrenia. Everything she said and did was a perfect sign that she was mentally ill. This police department needs a major overhaul.

And quite frankly, it is not the job of the police to randomly kill anyone they don't deem worthy to live. That is why we have a judicial system. You know, that thing that involves lawyers and court. Even convicted murderers get their day in court. This woman never got that.

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Thanks for the update, NJN.

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So I read this whole article over last night and I noticed a couple things. There WAS a nurse present. So there was no reason why this woman couldn't be medicated. Also, the police assessed her mental illness and found she didn't fit the criteria. So that would be a total fail on their part. AND, if a nurse was there it's even more of a fail because she should have figured that out. But they said because she didn't fit the criteria for mental illness she was left in jail and not transported to a mental facility. I think it was the cops fault. They need to be trained to handle this. This woman had all the classic signs of schizophrenia. Everything she said and did was a perfect sign that she was mentally ill. This police department needs a major overhaul.

And quite frankly, it is not the job of the police to randomly kill anyone they don't deem worthy to live. That is why we have a judicial system. You know, that thing that involves lawyers and court. Even convicted murderers get their day in court. This woman never got that.


Complete BS. 

 

A.  The fact that they "should" have been trained for this or that is IRRELEVANT to the situation if they were not.  You can't go back in time and retrain them.

B.  You don't know they "failed" at all.  At the time she was there, she may not have fit the criteria. Again, these are police officers, not doctors or psychologists.

C.  They didn't intend to kill her.  You seem to keep ignoring that part.  THERE WAS NO INTENT. 

D.  At the end of the day, NONE of that is relevant, anyway.  I don't give a rat's ass if she was mentally ill.  If she ATTACKED officers and threw piss on them--there is NO WAY you can expect that they won't respond to that with force.  That is just an idiotic position to take.  



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So I read this whole article over last night and I noticed a couple things. There WAS a nurse present. So there was no reason why this woman couldn't be medicated. Also, the police assessed her mental illness and found she didn't fit the criteria. So that would be a total fail on their part. AND, if a nurse was there it's even more of a fail because she should have figured that out. But they said because she didn't fit the criteria for mental illness she was left in jail and not transported to a mental facility. I think it was the cops fault. They need to be trained to handle this. This woman had all the classic signs of schizophrenia. Everything she said and did was a perfect sign that she was mentally ill. This police department needs a major overhaul.

And quite frankly, it is not the job of the police to randomly kill anyone they don't deem worthy to live. That is why we have a judicial system. You know, that thing that involves lawyers and court. Even convicted murderers get their day in court. This woman never got that.


Complete BS. 

 

A.  The fact that they "should" have been trained for this or that is IRRELEVANT to the situation if they were not.  You can't go back in time and retrain them.

B.  You don't know they "failed" at all.  At the time she was there, she may not have fit the criteria. Again, these are police officers, not doctors or psychologists.

C.  They didn't intend to kill her.  You seem to keep ignoring that part.  THERE WAS NO INTENT. 

D.  At the end of the day, NONE of that is relevant, anyway.  I don't give a rat's ass if she was mentally ill.  If she ATTACKED officers and threw piss on them--there is NO WAY you can expect that they won't respond to that with force.  That is just an idiotic position to take.  


You DON'T know what was in their minds, husker. The testosterone was high & maybe the "beatdown" got out of hand.

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So I read this whole article over last night and I noticed a couple things. There WAS a nurse present. So there was no reason why this woman couldn't be medicated. Also, the police assessed her mental illness and found she didn't fit the criteria. So that would be a total fail on their part. AND, if a nurse was there it's even more of a fail because she should have figured that out. But they said because she didn't fit the criteria for mental illness she was left in jail and not transported to a mental facility. I think it was the cops fault. They need to be trained to handle this. This woman had all the classic signs of schizophrenia. Everything she said and did was a perfect sign that she was mentally ill. This police department needs a major overhaul.

And quite frankly, it is not the job of the police to randomly kill anyone they don't deem worthy to live. That is why we have a judicial system. You know, that thing that involves lawyers and court. Even convicted murderers get their day in court. This woman never got that.


Complete BS. 

 

A.  The fact that they "should" have been trained for this or that is IRRELEVANT to the situation if they were not.  You can't go back in time and retrain them.

B.  You don't know they "failed" at all.  At the time she was there, she may not have fit the criteria. Again, these are police officers, not doctors or psychologists.

C.  They didn't intend to kill her.  You seem to keep ignoring that part.  THERE WAS NO INTENT. 

D.  At the end of the day, NONE of that is relevant, anyway.  I don't give a rat's ass if she was mentally ill.  If she ATTACKED officers and threw piss on them--there is NO WAY you can expect that they won't respond to that with force.  That is just an idiotic position to take.  


You DON'T know what was in their minds, husker. The testosterone was high & maybe the "beatdown" got out of hand.

flan 


It did get out of hand--that still doesn't mean they intended to kill her.  The DA didn't find that, at all, and they did more investigation into it than you or I.   



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That's why we're ALL jealous of him.

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Thus guy should be killed. Immediately.

news.yahoo.com/guy-peed-over-people-jet-012014523.html

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That's a lot of peeing. He should be killed immediately.

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Well, yeah. Pee is a death penalty offence.

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That's why we're ALL jealous of him.

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You should be.   



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Thus guy should be killed. Immediately.

news.yahoo.com/guy-peed-over-people-jet-012014523.html


He must have been pretty drunk. 

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Some Guy Peed All Over People on a Jet Blue Flight

There are plenty of nuisances on airplanes, from dogs pooping in the aisle, to people hogging the bathroom to have sex in it, to crazy screaming God freakouts, but getting peed on has got to be the worst. 

An Oregon man was booked into jail on Friday, accused of peeing on several other passengers on a Jet Blue flight to Portland. 

Accordingo to KOIN 6, Jeff D. Rubin was arrested on charges of  second-degree criminal mischief and offensive littering after he woke up shortly before landing, "stood up and began urinating through the crack of the seat onto the passengers seated in front of him,” a police report said.

 

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Then he fell backwards and “urinate(d) upwards which got the passengers and seats next to him as well as some other passengers’ personal belongings,” the report says.

Cops boarded the plane and found Rubin slumped over sleeping in his seat. He was released from jail after about five hours.



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And they didn't kill him? What were they thinking?

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And they didn't kill him? What were they thinking?


 They obviously weren't.  He should have  been killed.



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He certainly should have gotten a beat down.

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