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Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

RE: Sexbots

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
It's certainly not a loss when men like that "check-out". Have fun with the sexbots. The women are better off without you.
But it is. Not for you, personally, of course. You are married.

But for the many women who get to their later child-bearing years and can't find a mate, it is an issue. College educated women are finding it increasingly hard to find a mate--at least within the parameters of what they are looking for.
Most WANT marriage at some point, not all, but most. The pool of available men is shrinking, and, increasingly, the available men for women in the late child bearing years of 35-45 are men in their 40's and 50's who either are divorced with their own kids and don't want any more, or they are childless by choice and aren't looking to start a family now.

In some cities, the number of college educated single females outnumber men in that same bracket by 10 to 1.
So, they might have to move to find what they want. Haven't you said that numerous times about jobs? The answer is the same.

Sure, they can make different choices. They've always had that option.

Marry a blue-collar guy.

Don't put your career first if you want to have kids so you can start much sooner.

Heck, get pregnant young.

There are always choices--the issue is that they aren't making them, or not attempting to make them until time is running out to be able to reach the goal of husband/kids.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Eharmony.

I hear that's the answer to everything.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Eharmony.

I hear that's the answer to everything.

Well, I'm married, so I can't try that. You can, though. Tell us how it goes. biggrin

I really want to know what questions they ask. But DH and I talked about it and figured we would probably not get matched up by e-harmony, so we are not gonna try it.

Tinydancer · Guru

So if the ratio is 10 to 1 what the hell do you need sexbots for? Sometimes husker you make no sense at all...lol

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Friday 18th of September 2015 09:39:29 PM

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
So if the ratio is 10 to 1 what the hell do you need sexbots for? Sometimes husker you make no sense at all...lol

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Friday 18th of September 2015 09:39:29 PM

I never said I did.

The article points out that such men won't need them. They will have their choice of many partners--but they will never fulfill the goals of the women who want marriage/family.

Did you even read it?

WYSIWYG · Guru

I don't know any women who've taken themselves out of the dating/marriage pool. Why do men always blame women when they can't find a girl? Maybe they should be looking in the mirror to find out why.
- Tinydancer

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So, because you don't personally know any, it hasn't happened?

I know plenty and have read about plenty more that have done just that. Taken themselves out of the dating pool, that is. Many feminists with the "I don't need a man to complete me" mindset being among the ones I know or have read about. Others are in the "My career is more important than dating" path, but that still counts because while focusing on their careers they don't date.

I'm not saying it's wrong for any of the women that have taken themselves out of the dating pool. Whatever works for them is great for them. I'm just saying it's silly to say it's not happening.

Tinydancer · Guru

I didn't say it wasn't happening, only that it's not quite as prevalent as you and husker seem to think it is. Again I say if you can't connect with a real live woman then maybe you (general you) need to take a good long look in the mirror...lol

WYSIWYG · Guru

It sure seemed like you were saying it wasn't happening. If that was not your intent, my apologies.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
I didn't say it wasn't happening, only that it's not quite as prevalent as you and husker seem to think it is. Again I say if you can't connect with a real live woman then maybe you (general you) need to take a good long look in the mirror...lol

Maybe some do--but if there is an alternative without the BS--many will probably take it.

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
I didn't say it wasn't happening, only that it's not quite as prevalent as you and husker seem to think it is. Again I say if you can't connect with a real live woman then maybe you (general you) need to take a good long look in the mirror...lol
Maybe some do--but if there is an alternative without the BS--many will probably take it.

Well if you'd prefer a heartless sexbot then go for it and stop blaming the women. It's not like men don't bring their own BS to a relationship.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
I didn't say it wasn't happening, only that it's not quite as prevalent as you and husker seem to think it is. Again I say if you can't connect with a real live woman then maybe you (general you) need to take a good long look in the mirror...lol
Maybe some do--but if there is an alternative without the BS--many will probably take it.
Well if you'd prefer a heartless sexbot then go for it and stop blaming the women. It's not like men don't bring their own BS to a relationship.

But generally (there are exceptions) men don't control how often sex is had. Women do. Many would probably prefer to skip that part of the equation--certainly those who aren't getting it often would.

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
I didn't say it wasn't happening, only that it's not quite as prevalent as you and husker seem to think it is. Again I say if you can't connect with a real live woman then maybe you (general you) need to take a good long look in the mirror...lol
Maybe some do--but if there is an alternative without the BS--many will probably take it.
Well if you'd prefer a heartless sexbot then go for it and stop blaming the women. It's not like men don't bring their own BS to a relationship.
But generally (there are exceptions) men don't control how often sex is had. Women do. Many would probably prefer to skip that part of the equation--certainly those who aren't getting it often would.

Why not just find a woman who likes sex in the first place or maybe stop being a butt at home (not directed at you personally, just a general statement on men who'd rather not have to use sexbots)) and maybe your wife will want to do more for you. Blame women all you want but if your wife won't give you sex then it might have something to do with what kind of husband you are (general you).

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
I didn't say it wasn't happening, only that it's not quite as prevalent as you and husker seem to think it is. Again I say if you can't connect with a real live woman then maybe you (general you) need to take a good long look in the mirror...lol
Maybe some do--but if there is an alternative without the BS--many will probably take it.
Well if you'd prefer a heartless sexbot then go for it and stop blaming the women. It's not like men don't bring their own BS to a relationship.
But generally (there are exceptions) men don't control how often sex is had. Women do. Many would probably prefer to skip that part of the equation--certainly those who aren't getting it often would.
Why not just find a woman who likes sex in the first place or maybe stop being a butt at home (not directed at you personally, just a general statement on men who'd rather not have to use sexbots)) and maybe your wife will want to do more for you. Blame women all you want but if your wife won't give you sex then it might have something to do with what kind of husband you are (general you).

Maybe, maybe not. I know more than a few perfectly nice guys who married complete b!tches.

That's beside the point, however. The point is whether or not there are alternatives. Right now, there really isn't. Prostitution is illegal, and p*rn doesn't give the same sexual experience. Sexbots might.

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
I didn't say it wasn't happening, only that it's not quite as prevalent as you and husker seem to think it is. Again I say if you can't connect with a real live woman then maybe you (general you) need to take a good long look in the mirror...lol
Maybe some do--but if there is an alternative without the BS--many will probably take it.
Well if you'd prefer a heartless sexbot then go for it and stop blaming the women. It's not like men don't bring their own BS to a relationship.
But generally (there are exceptions) men don't control how often sex is had. Women do. Many would probably prefer to skip that part of the equation--certainly those who aren't getting it often would.
Why not just find a woman who likes sex in the first place or maybe stop being a butt at home (not directed at you personally, just a general statement on men who'd rather not have to use sexbots)) and maybe your wife will want to do more for you. Blame women all you want but if your wife won't give you sex then it might have something to do with what kind of husband you are (general you).
Maybe, maybe not. I know more than a few perfectly nice guys who married complete b!tches.
That's beside the point, however. The point is whether or not there are alternatives. Right now, there really isn't. Prostitution is illegal, and p*rn doesn't give the same sexual experience. Sexbots might.

Ok so you know stupid men...lol. Whether not there are alternatives is beside the point. Men have always had hands. Enjoy your sexbots if they are such a good alternative. Is that really your stance? Well I can only say I'm disappointed with the state of manhood if they'd prefer sexbots to actual living breathing loving women but as a woman what do I know...lol

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
I didn't say it wasn't happening, only that it's not quite as prevalent as you and husker seem to think it is. Again I say if you can't connect with a real live woman then maybe you (general you) need to take a good long look in the mirror...lol
Maybe some do--but if there is an alternative without the BS--many will probably take it.
Well if you'd prefer a heartless sexbot then go for it and stop blaming the women. It's not like men don't bring their own BS to a relationship.
But generally (there are exceptions) men don't control how often sex is had. Women do. Many would probably prefer to skip that part of the equation--certainly those who aren't getting it often would.
Why not just find a woman who likes sex in the first place or maybe stop being a butt at home (not directed at you personally, just a general statement on men who'd rather not have to use sexbots)) and maybe your wife will want to do more for you. Blame women all you want but if your wife won't give you sex then it might have something to do with what kind of husband you are (general you).
Maybe, maybe not. I know more than a few perfectly nice guys who married complete b!tches.
That's beside the point, however. The point is whether or not there are alternatives. Right now, there really isn't. Prostitution is illegal, and p*rn doesn't give the same sexual experience. Sexbots might.
Ok so you know stupid men...lol. Whether not there are alternatives is beside the point. Men have always had hands. Enjoy your sexbots if they are such a good alternative. Is that really your stance? Well I can only say I'm disappointed with the state of manhood if they'd prefer sexbots to actual living breathing loving women but as a woman what do I know...lol

Hands are not a good alternative--these may be.

ed11563 · Guru

" Why not just find a woman who likes sex in the first place or maybe stop being a butt at home"

Thank you very much, She DID like sex in the first place. Then her childhood incest and battering issues took over while she was pregnant with DS2.

I didn't know how damaged she was (and is).

And if you think a guy has to be a butt at home if his wife is unwilling, you should stop jumping to dumb conclusions.

(Do I sound angry? I'm sure feeling angry.)

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Ed, your whole relationship needs some help, and has for decades.
I doubt TD was thinking about your type of problem, more when there is a simple mismatch of libidos.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I'm not real sure what is being argued anymore.

The real thing is nice, it can have its drawbacks.

The fake thing is nice, it can have its drawbacks.

Sex and love are two totally different things and you can most definitely either have one without the other.

Tinydancer · Guru

ed11563 wrote:
" Why not just find a woman who likes sex in the first place or maybe stop being a butt at home"

Thank you very much, She DID like sex in the first place. Then her childhood incest and battering issues took over while she was pregnant with DS2.
I didn't know how damaged she was (and is).

And if you think a guy has to be a butt at home if his wife is unwilling, you should stop jumping to dumb conclusions.
(Do I sound angry? I'm sure feeling angry.)

Then either divorce her or get a mistress. From what you've written she could care less about your needs but I also know you prefer to be the martyr.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tinydancer wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
" Why not just find a woman who likes sex in the first place or maybe stop being a butt at home"

Thank you very much, She DID like sex in the first place. Then her childhood incest and battering issues took over while she was pregnant with DS2.
I didn't know how damaged she was (and is).

And if you think a guy has to be a butt at home if his wife is unwilling, you should stop jumping to dumb conclusions.
(Do I sound angry? I'm sure feeling angry.)

Then either divorce her or get a mistress. From what you've written she could care less about your needs but I also know you prefer to be the martyr.

Or...wait for it...he is a gentleman.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
" Why not just find a woman who likes sex in the first place or maybe stop being a butt at home"

Thank you very much, She DID like sex in the first place. Then her childhood incest and battering issues took over while she was pregnant with DS2.
I didn't know how damaged she was (and is).

And if you think a guy has to be a butt at home if his wife is unwilling, you should stop jumping to dumb conclusions.
(Do I sound angry? I'm sure feeling angry.)

Then either divorce her or get a mistress. From what you've written she could care less about your needs but I also know you prefer to be the martyr.
Or...wait for it...he is a gentleman.
flan

He's a gentleman because he lets his wife make all the choices and allows her to use and abuse him? Oh and gentleman wouldn't be here telling everyone all about his wife's intimate sexual details.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Tinydancer wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
" Why not just find a woman who likes sex in the first place or maybe stop being a butt at home"

Thank you very much, She DID like sex in the first place. Then her childhood incest and battering issues took over while she was pregnant with DS2.
I didn't know how damaged she was (and is).

And if you think a guy has to be a butt at home if his wife is unwilling, you should stop jumping to dumb conclusions.
(Do I sound angry? I'm sure feeling angry.)

Then either divorce her or get a mistress. From what you've written she could care less about your needs but I also know you prefer to be the martyr.
Or...wait for it...he is a gentleman.
flan
He's a gentleman because he lets his wife make all the choices and allows her to use and abuse him? Oh and gentleman wouldn't be here telling everyone all about his wife's intimate sexual details.

I have never seen ed write anything about intimate sexual details pertaining to his wife. Where are you getting that idea from?

ed11563 · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
" Why not just find a woman who likes sex in the first place or maybe stop being a butt at home"

Thank you very much, She DID like sex in the first place. Then her childhood incest and battering issues took over while she was pregnant with DS2.
I didn't know how damaged she was (and is).

And if you think a guy has to be a butt at home if his wife is unwilling, you should stop jumping to dumb conclusions.
(Do I sound angry? I'm sure feeling angry.)

Then either divorce her or get a mistress. From what you've written she could care less about your needs but I also know you prefer to be the martyr.
Or...wait for it...he is a gentleman.
flan
He's a gentleman because he lets his wife make all the choices and allows her to use and abuse him? Oh and gentleman wouldn't be here telling everyone all about his wife's intimate sexual details.

If you have any productive suggestions (other than leaving her), please let me know.

PM would probably be good.

Honeys_Mom · Mod & Permanent Board Sweetheart

just Czech wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
" Why not just find a woman who likes sex in the first place or maybe stop being a butt at home"

Thank you very much, She DID like sex in the first place. Then her childhood incest and battering issues took over while she was pregnant with DS2.
I didn't know how damaged she was (and is).
And if you think a guy has to be a butt at home if his wife is unwilling, you should stop jumping to dumb conclusions.
(Do I sound angry? I'm sure feeling angry.)

Then either divorce her or get a mistress. From what you've written she could care less about your needs but I also know you prefer to be the martyr.
Or...wait for it...he is a gentleman.
flan
He's a gentleman because he lets his wife make all the choices and allows her to use and abuse him? Oh and gentleman wouldn't be here telling everyone all about his wife's intimate sexual details.
I have never seen ed write anything about intimate sexual details pertaining to his wife. Where are you getting that idea from?

I haven't, either.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

On the contrary, ed has posted many times that his wife has no interest in sex and won't have sex with him. That's rather personal information, don't you think?

He has also posted the fact she was raped repeatedly by her brother.

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Sunday 20th of September 2015 09:27:24 PM

ed11563 · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
On the contrary, ed has posted many times that his wife has no interest in sex and won't have sex with him. That's rather personal information, don't you think?

He has also posted the fact she was raped repeatedly by her brother.

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Sunday 20th of September 2015 09:27:24 PM

Did I talk about her mother?

Tinydancer · Guru

ed11563 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
On the contrary, ed has posted many times that his wife has no interest in sex and won't have sex with him. That's rather personal information, don't you think?

He has also posted the fact she was raped repeatedly by her brother.

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Sunday 20th of September 2015 09:27:24 PM
Did I talk about her mother?

Yes you did and these are things you and your wife should talk to a therapist about. Oh yeah she refuses to do anything to better herself and you allow it by not making her DO something. Get all mad at me if it makes you feel better but YOU enable her every single day. Sorry if that sounds harsh but I won't just coddle you and say how "noble" you are. Noble would be if you decided to stop enabling but with all the "gentleman" crap being thrown around I can understand why you feel like you're helping her.

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Sunday 20th of September 2015 10:56:46 PM

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

She would likely die if he left her. That is HIS decision to make, not some stranger on a message board.

flan

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Oh no. She wouldn't die. She thrives on the manipulation and he thrives on feeling needed. If he stopped she would learn to manage for herself.

The problem with ed is that he has swallowed the poison and is sitting around waiting for it to kill his MIL.

weltschmerz · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Oh no. She wouldn't die. She thrives on the manipulation and he thrives on feeling needed. If he stopped she would learn to manage for herself.

The problem with ed is that he has swallowed the poison and is sitting around waiting for it to kill his MIL.

He won't be the first or the last. There are so many dysfunctional relationships like that. People stay in them for some kind of secondary gain.

They have to recognise what they gain from playing the martyr/manipulator/victim/control freak/enabler, and move on from there.

Most choose to stay.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Monday 21st of September 2015 05:52:46 AM

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

weltschmerz wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Oh no. She wouldn't die. She thrives on the manipulation and he thrives on feeling needed. If he stopped she would learn to manage for herself.

The problem with ed is that he has swallowed the poison and is sitting around waiting for it to kill his MIL.
He won't be the first or the last. There are so many dysfunctional relationships like that. People stay in them for some kind of secondary gain.
They have to recognise what they gain from playing the martyr/manipulator/victim/control freak/enabler, and move on from there.
Most choose to stay.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Monday 21st of September 2015 03:22:44 AM

And it's extremely dysfunctional. Just like an abused woman who chooses to stay and won't leave even if she has plenty of options to leave. They stay because, "It's not the other person's fault..." and "they love them..." and those are excuses to allow someone else to mistreat you.

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
She would likely die if he left her. That is HIS decision to make, not some stranger on a message board.

flan

Melodramatic much? So ed stays and dies a little every day. He is enabling her whether he admits it or not. By the way you are also some stranger on a message board but I guess because you're saying what he wants to hear that makes you a better stranger...lol

WYSIWYG · Guru

Well if you'd prefer a heartless sexbot then go for it and stop blaming the women.
- Tinydancer

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Who suggested a sexbot would be their preference? Is it not possible the the sexbot wouldn't be a preference, but that it would be more like an only option that's better than nothing?

WYSIWYG · Guru

"gentleman" crap
- Tinydancer

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That attitude is one of the reasons men will likely turn to sexbots when they become readily available. If men aren't gentlemen they are losers and full of macho crap. If men are gentlemen they are losers and wimps and unable to stand up for themselves. It's a no-win scenario.

Are relationships turning into a present-day example of the Kobayashi Maru test?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Does the thought of a sexbot offend some of you?

Why?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Does the thought of a sexbot offend some of you?

Why?

I don't think it's the thought of the sexbot. I think it's the thought that women are so horrible that the sexbot is better.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

But is that really the idea behind it?

Or is it more of an option for those times they don't want the relationship. Just the benefits.

Assisted masturbation if you will.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
But is that really the idea behind it?

Or is it more of an option for those times they don't want the relationship. Just the benefits.

Assisted masturbation if you will.

According to this thread, it seems to be.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Does the thought of a sexbot offend some of you?

Why?
I don't think it's the thought of the sexbot. I think it's the thought that women are so horrible that the sexbot is better.

And, the infantilizing of men who can no longer handle a relationship with a real human being or no longer wish too.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I just don't see the big deal.

Sex toys have been around since forever. Even Cleopatra was said to have a bee powered vibrator.

So what if this next step.

A moving blow up doll.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
I just don't see the big deal.

Sex toys have been around since forever. Even Cleopatra was said to have a bee powered vibrator.

So what if this next step.

A moving blow up doll.

Oh, the things you learn on the Interwebz!

flan

WYSIWYG · Guru

I don't think it's the thought of the sexbot. I think it's the thought that women are so horrible that the sexbot is better.
- Lawyerlady

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The problem as I see it isn't that anyone thinks women are horrible or that a sexbot will be better.

I see the problem as women are making themselves less and less available as sexual partners, for varied and numerous reasons, and sexbots would be an available alternative that's better than nothing at all.

I could easily be wrong on both counts though. This is just how I see the issue.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Maybe women are making themselves less available because they don't want to marry someone who lays around on his azz all day.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Maybe women are making themselves less available because they don't want to marry someone who lays around on his azz all day.

No one does--man or woman--but the fact remains that a higher percentage of women WANT to get married than men, and options for college educated women are getting fewer and fewer.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Maybe women are making themselves less available because they don't want to marry someone who lays around on his azz all day.
No one does--man or woman--but the fact remains that a higher percentage of women WANT to get married than men, and options for college educated women are getting fewer and fewer.

I am college educated. I can make decent money. I won't ever be wealthy but I can support a family. Why should I marry some dude who works at McDonald's and hangs out with his motorcycle buddies all weekend.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Maybe women are making themselves less available because they don't want to marry someone who lays around on his azz all day.
- Nobody Just Nobody

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While that's a possibility, I wasn't limiting it to issues with the prospective men that they might date. I was including ones that have no interest in dating just because they lack interest in dating itself, ones that are strictly lesbian and aren't worried anymore about how it looks to "be without a man", ones that are more career focused so dating is forgotten, ones that are so impressed with their own awesomeness that they won't date below their perceived worth, as well as the "I don't want a lazy fat bastard that sits on his ass watching sports all the time" ones.

Not to mention the ones that are out of the dating pool because, quite frankly, they are already taken.

A sexbot for men is no different than a B.O.B. for single women.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

During my 17 year dating career I met many a man who was looking for a woman to support him, his habits, and his buddies. And sometimes their habits too.

WYSIWYG · Guru

They definitely exist, I won't argue against you on that point at all.

Tinydancer · Guru

If you prefer a sexbot to actually pursuing a real woman by being what a modern woman needs then go for it. Men who think women owe them something, whether it's their time, dinner, cleaning or sex, will certainly appreciate the comfort of a sexbot. Maybe if those men who can't find an available women actually worked on being the man the woman needed he might find there are more available women. If no women wants you there IS a reason. We've certainly been known to settle for some pretty bad losers before sexbots so you've got to be pretty bad if a wife beater has better luck...lol