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Dear Carolyn:

My household received a written invitation to a birthday party for a 1-year-old. It reads, “Not every child is lucky enough to have a birthday party like A. In lieu of a gift, we are asking that you consider making a donation (of cash) to a nonprofit that claims to ‘help poor children.’ ”

What are they trying to say? That their child doesn’t deserve gifts because she’s “too rich”? Logically, does the child even “deserve” a party in the parents’ belief system?

Are the parents (middle-class liberals) having some sort of contest with their neighbors to show who’s the most enlightened, sophisticated liberal — class warfare? No gifts for A in the class struggle?

I looked into the nonprofit mentioned — the director pays herself well out of the “donations.”

I told someone the parents should turn off the leftist TV channel they watch because it’s causing them mind rot — denying their toddler presents. Your thoughts?

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Dear Pittsburgh: Thanks for the proof that people who want to get their knickers bunched will find reasons to in just about anything.

Are these parents playing by the etiquette book? No, because using the invitation to direct your guests’ gift-giving behavior is a well-established “Don’t.”

It is, however, a matter of degrees. These parents aren’t ordering you to bring them cash because they don’t want whatever you pick out. Instead, they are acknowledging their child was born into a life of plenty whereas many babies are not, and (if I may project a bit) are using this opportunity of a birthday when the kid is way too young to understand what a birthday is — much less notice or care what people bring — to do something decent for needy families.

Again, is it strictly proper for them to recruit their guests as do-gooding proxies? No. Is it sanctimonious? Certainly possible. But at least at the end of their faux-pas rainbow, some needy families get diapers and a few guests are spared from figuring out what to bring.

What’s at the end of your angry rainbow? Hosts who are blessed with your complaining about them behind their backs, by your own admission (that’s not in the etiquette books, either), and showering contempt on their beliefs in general and their attempt at generosity in particular. Within five paragraphs of self-congratulation you manage to deride them as liberals, leftists and class warriors who are — you outdo yourself here, putting words in their mouths — “denying their toddler presents” because she “doesn’t deserve gifts.” 

How about doesn’t need gifts and won’t even notice their absence? An ideal gift for a 1-year-old is a chance to make a racket with your pots and pans. And since when is it wrong to value presence over presents? It’s not unheard of for children themselves to agree to, even spearhead, parties that serve as charity drives and not gift grabs.

There’s also this: When a party is for a child too young to understand birthdays, it’s safe to assume it’s just an excuse for the parents to welcome in the village. Many such hosts are very concerned their invite-the-village impulse will be mistaken for an excuse to collect gifts, and so reach for ways to discourage them. Ironic, isn’t it.

As a villager who apparently thinks your untouchable authority-given right to buy stuff is being trampled, and who apparently doesn’t think much of these parents, I suggest you politely decline the invitation.

Whether you accept the invitation or not, please do — if you can keep the relish out of your voice — notify the hosts of any published record of impropriety in their charity’s use of donations. That’s a kindness no matter what color onesies your politics wear.

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Wow. What a piece of work. It's a first birthday, the kid will not notice a lack of presents, and I bet the family will give it a few things to unwrap anyways.

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I find it extremely RUDE and highly presumptuous for anyone to tell me how or where to donate to charity or some cause. I would just decline this 'invitation" period with nothing. Ignorant.

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If you don't want gifts, then just have a Party. Don't call it a birthday party. Problem solved and you don't have to engage in this stupid crap.

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Why? A lot of people are uncomfortable not doing anything. When I am told no presents please, I like having an alternative offered. It makes me feel like I am doing something to mark the occasion that will be genuinely appreciated.

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Why? A lot of people are uncomfortable not doing anything. When I am told no presents please, I like having an alternative offered. It makes me feel like I am doing something to mark the occasion that will be genuinely appreciated.


 So you can't have a birthday party WITHOUT gifts?

Donate to another charity if this one isn't legit.

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I just find the whole "donate to charity" thing to be rude. If you don't want presents, then just call it a party. It isn't that hard. Then, go do whatever the heck you please as far as a gift or charity or whatever. But, don't dangle that baloney in front of your guests.

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Why? A lot of people are uncomfortable not doing anything. When I am told no presents please, I like having an alternative offered. It makes me feel like I am doing something to mark the occasion that will be genuinely appreciated.


 So you can't have a birthday party WITHOUT gifts?

Donate to another charity if this one isn't legit.

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 If I want to donate to a charity, I will.  I don't need some other adult telling me to do so. 



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Geesh, I guess some people will take any excuse to be offended. What's the big deal? If you want to donate, donate, if you don't, don't.
People like me, you know, that don't take the slightest excuse to be offended and actually like to acknowledge events in a way that will be appreciated, like this sort of thing to be on the invite. I find it helpful, and often donate a small amount and write about it in a pretty card.

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I think it's rude. It's a party. Don't turn into your own personal political bullschit.

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It's like "oh we are sooo high and mighty". Our kids don't get gifts, blah, blah. And, I think the whole "no gifts " thing is getting down right stupid. First of all, you are robbing your child of learning to how to graciously receive a gift. It is important to learn how to be a gracious receiver. If you do this all the time, what is learned? And, it is important for other children to learn to bring gifts, be gift givers and learn that they aren't always the center of attention either. I think that it is nice to give and receive gifts. And, NO, I dont' want to donate to your stupid pet charity.

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Maybe, I will try that. In lieu of gifts, please donate to the NRA.

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They are probably trying to avoid their little girl and their house from being over-run by toys they don't need. When we moved - I found birthday presents my daughter never played with or even took out of the box.

And the thing is, when people go to a birthday party, they will bring gifts even if you ask them not to, so giving them an actual alternative was what they came up with.

Of course, with a one year old, they could have just graciously accepted the gifts and then given them to charity themselves.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

It's like "oh we are sooo high and mighty". Our kids don't get gifts, blah, blah. And, I think the whole "no gifts " thing is getting down right stupid. First of all, you are robbing your child of learning to how to graciously receive a gift. It is important to learn how to be a gracious receiver. If you do this all the time, what is learned? And, it is important for other children to learn to bring gifts, be gift givers and learn that they aren't always the center of attention either. I think that it is nice to give and receive gifts. And, NO, I dont' want to donate to your stupid pet charity.


 But THIS is a party for a ONE-YEAR-OLD. They are more interested in the wrapping paper.

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I don't mind it at all.

A little girl at church recently turned 9. She didn't want gifts. She asked that in lieu of gifts, people would bring dog and cat food and cat litter for the local no kill shelter.

I thought that was sweet.

What these parents asking for charity donations instead of gifts are doing is teaching their kids that life isn't all about them.

And that's a good thing.

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The boys were invited to a "presence, not present shall be your gift" parties. But we were not directed to donate to any organization.

I've only thrown two parties for the boys. One when they turned one, and another when they turned 5. The gifts they received when they were one were great. Sure, they were unaware of the generosity of our friends, but so what. We were aware. And since our friends were already parents, they knew the types of things toddlers would enjoy better than we did. But I can understand if someone didn't want to be over-run by toys, too. We have a large house, with plenty of room, so it's not a big deal.

That being said, it does not sound like this LW cares much for her "friends." It might be best for her to simply decline and use the money to go to dinner.

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Geesh, I guess some people will take any excuse to be offended. What's the big deal? If you want to donate, donate, if you don't, don't.
People like me, you know, that don't take the slightest excuse to be offended and actually like to acknowledge events in a way that will be appreciated, like this sort of thing to be on the invite. I find it helpful, and often donate a small amount and write about it in a pretty card.


 I'm with Dona.  I was raised that when you are invited to ANY party you bring something.  Even if it's just a summer bbq.  You don't come empty handed.  Some people really don't need all the extra stuff others give them.  I get that.  This couple didn't sound rude at all.  They sounded like they appreciate what they have and are trying to give some back.  Give, don't give, bring a gift, don't bring a gift.  It's not that hard.



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I thought it was a lovely gesture. If you don't like that particular charity, I'm sure the parents would be just as happy with a donation to the Make-a-Wish Foundation. Nothing to get your knickers in a twist about.
Some people just look for stuff to be offended about.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Monday 21st of September 2015 01:44:46 PM

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I see nothing wrong with the parents request. Especially for a one year old.

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Ok. I will send a donation
 to the NRA or Pro-life group in the one yr old's name.



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This is just another way for the Self Important to demonstrate their so called self importance, lol./

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

This is just another way for the Self Important to demonstrate their so called self importance, lol./


 Or...wait for it...they COULD actually be sincere.

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I'm actually with flan on this one. Gaga, that's a serious chip you are carrying on your shoulder.

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Tough taters!

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I'm actually with flan on this one. Gaga, that's a serious chip you are carrying on your shoulder.


 You're going soft on me!  smile



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The invitation could have been worded better. Lots of kids here ask for things to bring to the animal shelter. The shelter will post photos and thank the birthday boy or girl.

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Someone "adopted" a wolf for my son at WWF for a birthday present when he was little. He was absolutely thrilled! He's an avid animal lover.

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Geesh, I guess some people will take any excuse to be offended. What's the big deal? If you want to donate, donate, if you don't, don't.
People like me, you know, that don't take the slightest excuse to be offended and actually like to acknowledge events in a way that will be appreciated, like this sort of thing to be on the invite. I find it helpful, and often donate a small amount and write about it in a pretty card.


 I'm with Dona.  I was raised that when you are invited to ANY party you bring something.  Even if it's just a summer bbq.  You don't come empty handed.  Some people really don't need all the extra stuff others give them.  I get that.  This couple didn't sound rude at all.  They sounded like they appreciate what they have and are trying to give some back.  Give, don't give, bring a gift, don't bring a gift.  It's not that hard.


 I was raised that way as well. If I am invited to your house for dinner, I bring something. Any party thrown around the time of the child's birthday would be seen as a birthday party even if mom and dad just called it a party. People would bring gifts. I would appreciate knowing that I could skip the gift, with gift paper/bags etc and just donate somewhere. And honestly, I would probably still buy the child a book. If you don't like it, you don't have to donate. 

 

I thought the OP's diatribe was far more offensive than the invitation. 



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Someone "adopted" a wolf for my son at WWF for a birthday present when he was little. He was absolutely thrilled! He's an avid animal lover.


 That is awesome.  I think LGS' point is don't make that charitable donation a criteria for the party. I know no one who doesn't like to give to their fav charity but suggesting one can raise those back hairs. KWIM?



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Someone "adopted" a wolf for my son at WWF for a birthday present when he was little. He was absolutely thrilled! He's an avid animal lover.


 That is awesome.  I think LGS' point is don't make that charitable donation a criteria for the party. I know no one who doesn't like to give to their fav charity but suggesting one can raise those back hairs. KWIM?


 Yeah - a charity that helps poor children, I can see why someone would want to donate elsewhere. That sounds like a loser charity. Lol 



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There are lots of charities that are poorly run or just a front for a political agenda. Not interested. Talk about proselytizing.

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I get the impression it is more about not being told where to spend the money.

But my thing is, if I am going to met out $20 for a gift, I want it to be something that makes the recipient happy.

If that is a toy or shirt or tickets or a donation, then so be it.

I mean I can give toothbrushes to crocodiles if that is what would make the recipient happy for their birthday.

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No, it's just rude and presumptuous.

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But why is it rude and presumptuous?

What is the difference between a registry and a charity?



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You can use the registry or not. If you say, please donate to PETA in lieu of a gift, that kind of narrows down your choices. But, as I said, I will be happy to donate to my pet charity in YOUR name then if you wish.

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Well, maybe the kid has autism, and she wants you to donate to an autism charity for her kid's birthday. Why would that be wrong?

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You can use the registry or not. If you say, please donate to PETA in lieu of a gift, that kind of narrows down your choices. But, as I said, I will be happy to donate to my pet charity in YOUR name then if you wish.


 I'm sorry but that makes their birthday gift about you in my opinion. 

 



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You can use the registry or not. If you say, please donate to PETA in lieu of a gift, that kind of narrows down your choices. But, as I said, I will be happy to donate to my pet charity in YOUR name then if you wish.


 I'm sorry but that makes their birthday gift about you in my opinion. 

 


 Seriously.  I thought gifting was about giving something to make the recipient happy.



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Years ago when my family owned a Floral shoppe at on funeral the family requested that in lieu of flowers that donations would be made to the favorite charity of the deceased. One lady called to order flowers and we let her know the families wishes but she got so nasty and hateful about it.

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You can use the registry or not. If you say, please donate to PETA in lieu of a gift, that kind of narrows down your choices. But, as I said, I will be happy to donate to my pet charity in YOUR name then if you wish.


 I'm sorry but that makes their birthday gift about you in my opinion. 

 


 Seriously.  I thought gifting was about giving something to make the recipient happy.


Sorry, but there is no way in hell I'm going to donate to PETA, or Planned Parenthood, or the DNC.  I don't care if it makes them happy or not.  They don't get to dictate where I spend my money...



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You can use the registry or not. If you say, please donate to PETA in lieu of a gift, that kind of narrows down your choices. But, as I said, I will be happy to donate to my pet charity in YOUR name then if you wish.


 I'm sorry but that makes their birthday gift about you in my opinion. 

 


 I am not gonna donate to PETA to make you happy.  Sorry.



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I can give you cash in a card and you can do whatever the hell you please with it.

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I believe the OP just said "a children's charity" and didn't specify one.

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I believe the OP just said "a children's charity" and didn't specify one.


This part makes me think that a charity was specified:

 

In lieu of a gift, we are asking that you consider making a donation (of cash) to a nonprofit that claims to ‘help poor children.’ ” 



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I believe the OP just said "a children's charity" and didn't specify one.


This part makes me think that a charity was specified:

 

In lieu of a gift, we are asking that you consider making a donation (of cash) to a nonprofit that claims to ‘help poor children.’ ” 


 To me this sounded like the LW's spin.  But that's JMO.



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Also in the OP:

looked into the nonprofit mentioned — the director pays herself well out of the “donations.”

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I think the birthday family meant well & their heart was in the right place. Perhaps they didn't do the research on the charity. I think the LW's attitude is nasty. If you don't want to donate, don't. If you don't want to go to the party, don't. But don't act like such a sanctimonious bitch.

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Don't act like a sanctimonius bitch with your stupid pet charities.

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We were going to a $5 Secret Santa at work. And, one guy was like "oh, I just want my gift to go to charity" blah, blah. Sorry, but that really missed the point. It was just about having a bit of fun of opening some inexpensive gift. But, perhaps we should skip Secret Santa and all of us can donate to charity instead?

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Needy children is a pretty middle of the road cause. It doesn't appear to have any political agenda at least at first glance. I really think they were trying to do a good & charitable thing.

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