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WYSIWYG wrote:

That is the comparison CHRIST makes. If you are a Christian, I can't believe you are saying that Christ, himself, is wrong. If you aren't a Christian, I don't see why it matters.

However, compared to God, humans are turnips--or, rather, sheep.
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I'm not saying Christ is wrong. I'm saying he was misquoted or the parable was misattributed. On the "Do You Believe in the Devil?" thread, I posted the following, which may be able to explain how I come to this finding:

Unlike some people, I don't subscribe to the "The Bible is the perfect word of God" belief. I fall more in line with "The Bible is inspired by God but written by men with their biases and human failings and frailties influencing the outcome of the final work".

 You don't have anything to base that on.  Plus, the sheep comparison is made MANY times throughout the Bible.  its simply ridiculous to say they misquoted "sheep" EVERY TIME.



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WYSIWYG wrote:

While I agree that we do not understand God, we do have the ability to reason. A sheep does not. That's why this parable fails, in my opinion.

IMHO, we are so far removed from the level of God's intelligence, that yes, we are like sheep intellectually, by comparison.

I, personally, know a few individuals who are as dumb as a sheep. 



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From Gods perspective, it is an apt comparison. We are willful, stubborn, don't listen, wander off, act against our own best interests, etc...



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All this talk about sheep has me wanting lamb chops.



-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Wednesday 30th of September 2015 03:20:50 PM

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The comparison isn't about the relative intelligence or ability to reason between sheep and humans. The comparison is that God is the good shepherd and we are his flock.

John 10:11

I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

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huskerbb wrote:

The comparison isn't about the relative intelligence or ability to reason between sheep and humans. The comparison is that God is the good shepherd and we are his flock.

John 10:11

I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

 Even I know that!

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Actually John Chapter 10 is one of the most powerful explanations of Christ and his role in mans salvation to be found in the entire Bible.

I'm not sure how one could say they don't believe those words of Christ and claim to be Christian. That chapter, at its core, is the very definition of Christianity. Christ pretty much tells the Pharisees as much.

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You don't have anything to base that on. Plus, the sheep comparison is made MANY times throughout the Bible. its simply ridiculous to say they misquoted "sheep" EVERY TIME.
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You don't know that I don't. I do agree that the sheep comparison is made quite often. I believe it to be poorly made every time. We may not have the knowledge or intelligence of God, but we are capable of rational thought. That's a power that sheep lack.

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IMHO, we are so far removed from the level of God's intelligence, that yes, we are like sheep intellectually, by comparison.

I, personally, know a few individuals who are as dumb as a sheep.
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I know a few that, at first glance, appear to have less intellect than wet tissue paper. Does that mean that we are equal to Kleenex?

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We are made in the "image of God". Meaning we can reason, think, use our intelligence. However the Bible also states that "His ways are higher than our ways". Christ is the Lamb of God, so being compared to sheep is not offensive, unless you find that offensive. Sheep are known as gentle, humble, peaceful, etc. So, some of you seem to take offense at that. We are also called the Children of God. So, yes, one does expect in the natural that a good parent is smarter, wiser, and has "higher" ways. That is the relationship of us to God. And, then God brought us all as the "Bride" of Christ meaning that like a spouse we now stand beside. It is really a beautiful picture and a shame that some of you wish to pervert the Gospel.

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WYSIWYG wrote:

You don't have anything to base that on. Plus, the sheep comparison is made MANY times throughout the Bible. its simply ridiculous to say they misquoted "sheep" EVERY TIME.
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You don't know that I don't. I do agree that the sheep comparison is made quite often. I believe it to be poorly made every time. We may not have the knowledge or intelligence of God, but we are capable of rational thought. That's a power that sheep lack.

 Don't what?  Christ was not misquoted the DOZENS of times he made the sheep comparison.



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WYSIWYG wrote:

IMHO, we are so far removed from the level of God's intelligence, that yes, we are like sheep intellectually, by comparison.

I, personally, know a few individuals who are as dumb as a sheep.
- just Czech

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I know a few that, at first glance, appear to have less intellect than wet tissue paper. Does that mean that we are equal to Kleenex?

 Apparently, THAT person is, by your own standard.



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Apparently, THAT person is, by your own standard.
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I'll accept that comparison, but your (and huskerbb's, and other's) comparison would have everyone compared to Kleenex because the one compares well to it.

A more apt comparison, in my opinion, would be to compare us as infant children (but with potential) compared to adults. But that's neither here nor there. I do agree that the sheep comparison exists in the Bible.

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