TOTALLY GEEKED!

sweet tooth · Member

The Pope

chef · Guru

Only God knows his heart. I don't think English is his first language so maybe something got lost in translation, so to speak.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I'd like to know the context in which this was said.

flan

weltschmerz · Guru

chef wrote:
Only God knows his heart. I don't think English is his first language so maybe something got lost in translation, so to speak.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/popeatheist.asp

sweet tooth · Member

Nevermind, I don't think that quote could have been accurate. The translation must have been messedup. I was just listening to him speak in St Patrick's cathedral, and what he was saying sounds nothing like that quote. He sounds like a Christian.

chef · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
chef wrote:
Only God knows his heart. I don't think English is his first language so maybe something got lost in translation, so to speak.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/popeatheist.asp

I'm not seeing how that link applies to what I said. Clarify?

chef · Guru

sweet tooth wrote:
Nevermind, I don't think that quote could have been accurate. The translation must have been messedup. I was just listening to him speak in St Patrick's cathedral, and what he was saying sounds nothing like that quote. He sounds like a Christian.

According to the Snopes link Welts posted, it isn't accurate.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I don't know.

Yes, this Pope is more down to earth and approachable.

But there is something about him that makes my spidy senses tingle.

sweet tooth · Member

chef wrote:
sweet tooth wrote:
Nevermind, I don't think that quote could have been accurate. The translation must have been messedup. I was just listening to him speak in St Patrick's cathedral, and what he was saying sounds nothing like that quote. He sounds like a Christian.
According to the Snopes link Welts posted, it isn't accurate.

Yes, I was able to open the link now, and it isn't accurate. I'm glad and relieved for the Catholic church that it isn't true.

Ohfour · Hooker

Hes still a joke. He lectures Congress on immigration, but not on SSM or abortion. Retard...

FNW · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
I don't know.

Yes, this Pope is more down to earth and approachable.

But there is something about him that makes my spidy senses tingle.

Me, too. And I'm Catholic.

FNW · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Hes still a joke. He lectures Congress on immigration, but not on SSM or abortion. Retard...

Exactly. This is the first Pope I don't care for.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

FNW wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I don't know.

Yes, this Pope is more down to earth and approachable.

But there is something about him that makes my spidy senses tingle.

Me, too. And I'm Catholic.

It sounds insane but I have this feeling of.... doom, for lack of a better word, when I see or hear him.

It isn't overwhelming.

I can't explain it really.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
Hes still a joke. He lectures Congress on immigration, but not on SSM or abortion. Retard...

WHAT is WRONG with you?

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
I don't know.

Yes, this Pope is more down to earth and approachable.

But there is something about him that makes my spidy senses tingle.

What a shocker! Is there anything that DOESN'T?

flan

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

I am also uneasy with this Pope.

Revelations comes to mind..

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Change is hard...

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Hes still a joke. He lectures Congress on immigration, but not on SSM or abortion. Retard...
WHAT is WRONG with you?
flan

Nothing is wrong with me. He aint right...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

just Czech wrote:
I am also uneasy with this Pope.

Revelations comes to mind..

Yes.

I am glad I am not the only one.

MyNameIsJoe · Member

Ohfour wrote:
Hes still a joke. He lectures Congress on immigration, but not on SSM or abortion. Retard...

I listened to the entire "lecture" and he did mention abortion. He called for the respect of all life. He said that the “Golden Rule” is a good reminder of “our responsibility to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development".

He received a bi-partisan standing ovation.

Your use of the word r****d is disgusting. Not because it's aimed at the pope, not because it isn't pc, but because it is used as a bullying word and shows ignorance.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Hes still a joke. He lectures Congress on immigration, but not on SSM or abortion. Retard...

I listened to the entire "lecture" and he did mention abortion. He called for the respect of all life. He said that the “Golden Rule” is a good reminder of “our responsibility to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development".
He received a bi-partisan standing ovation.
Your use of the word r****d is disgusting. Not because it's aimed at the pope, not because it isn't pc, but because it is used as a bullying word and shows ignorance.

flan

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Ah, we are not exactly PC around here..

Just saying.

I simply do not like the word, that is all.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

just Czech wrote:
Ah, we are not exactly PC around here..

Just saying.

I simply do not like the word, that is all.

There were only two words that I refused to let my boys say (as insults):

Retard and gay.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

Meh...dont really care...

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Ohfour wrote:
Meh...dont really care...

Oh come on, tell us how you really feel. biggrin

Ohfour · Hooker

just Czech wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Meh...dont really care...
Oh come on, tell us how you really feel.

I always do! Lol!!!!

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Ohfour wrote:
just Czech wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Meh...dont really care...
Oh come on, tell us how you really feel.
I always do! Lol!!!!

And THAT is why I love you. smile

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Hes still a joke. He lectures Congress on immigration, but not on SSM or abortion. Retard...

I listened to the entire "lecture" and he did mention abortion. He called for the respect of all life. He said that the “Golden Rule” is a good reminder of “our responsibility to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development".
He received a bi-partisan standing ovation.
Your use of the word r****d is disgusting. Not because it's aimed at the pope, not because it isn't pc, but because it is used as a bullying word and shows ignorance.

The "Golden Rule"?

Do unto other what you would have them do unto you.

How exactly is that about abortion?

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Hes still a joke. He lectures Congress on immigration, but not on SSM or abortion. Retard...

What a vile thing to say! I'll remember that next time someone accuses me of being insulting to religion.

That one took the cake.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Thursday 24th of September 2015 09:36:48 PM

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

lilyofcourse wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Hes still a joke. He lectures Congress on immigration, but not on SSM or abortion. Retard...

I listened to the entire "lecture" and he did mention abortion. He called for the respect of all life. He said that the “Golden Rule” is a good reminder of “our responsibility to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development".
He received a bi-partisan standing ovation.
Your use of the word r****d is disgusting. Not because it's aimed at the pope, not because it isn't pc, but because it is used as a bullying word and shows ignorance.
The "Golden Rule"?
Do unto other what you would have them do unto you.
How exactly is that about abortion?

Lily, since life begins at conception, and the Golden Rule applies to all stages of life, I thought that would be obvious.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Hes still a joke. He lectures Congress on immigration, but not on SSM or abortion. Retard...
What a vile thing to say! I'll remember that next time someone accuses me of being insulting to religion.
That one took the cake.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Thursday 24th of September 2015 09:36:48 PM

Knock yourself out...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

just Czech wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Hes still a joke. He lectures Congress on immigration, but not on SSM or abortion. Retard...

I listened to the entire "lecture" and he did mention abortion. He called for the respect of all life. He said that the “Golden Rule” is a good reminder of “our responsibility to protect and defend human life at every stage of its development".
He received a bi-partisan standing ovation.
Your use of the word r****d is disgusting. Not because it's aimed at the pope, not because it isn't pc, but because it is used as a bullying word and shows ignorance.
The "Golden Rule"?
Do unto other what you would have them do unto you.
How exactly is that about abortion?

Lily, since life begins at conception, and the Golden Rule applies to all stages of life, I thought that would be obvious.

Yes. Don't kill a baby. I get that.

weltschmerz · Guru

Evidently, some people don't like "Pope and Change."

WYSIWYG · Guru

I believe he also spoke about same sex marriage. I listened to the speech and remember him saying something about marriage being under attack. If that wasn't a reference to same sex marriage, then I'm confused about what it was in reference to.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

weltschmerz wrote:
Evidently, some people don't like "Pope and Change."

Since I survived 8 years in Catholic school, I can attest to that!

During my lifetime, I have seen the Masses go from all Latin (with the priest facing the altar, NOT the congregation) to English. The rules on fasting were relaxed. Lay ministers can now distribute Communion.

Tradition is valued by the Catholic Church, which is both a positive and negative thing.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

sweet tooth wrote:
Guys, I saw a quote said by Pope Francis that I can hardly believe he actually said. I would like your opinions on whether you believe he said this and if so, is he a Christian? He said "It is not necessary to believe in God to be a good person. In a way, the traditional notion of God is outdated. One can be spiritual but not religious. It is not necessary to go to church and give money-for many, nature can be a church. Some of the best people in history did not believe in God, while some of the worst deeds were done in His name."
The traditional notion of God is outdated???
It is not necessary to believe in God?? Then what about salvation?
I do agree with the part that says one can be spiritual but not religious.

Well, in that quote, Pope Francis is not saying you are getting into heaven if you don't believe in God - this doesn't comment on salvation. He's only saying it's still possible to be a good person if you don't believe in God, which is true. The only real problem I have is the "the traditional notion of God is outdated". God is never outdated - he is the beginning, the middle and the end.

sweet tooth · Member

Lawyerlady wrote:
sweet tooth wrote:
Guys, I saw a quote said by Pope Francis that I can hardly believe he actually said. I would like your opinions on whether you believe he said this and if so, is he a Christian? He said "It is not necessary to believe in God to be a good person. In a way, the traditional notion of God is outdated. One can be spiritual but not religious. It is not necessary to go to church and give money-for many, nature can be a church. Some of the best people in history did not believe in God, while some of the worst deeds were done in His name."
The traditional notion of God is outdated???
It is not necessary to believe in God?? Then what about salvation?
I do agree with the part that says one can be spiritual but not religious.

Well, in that quote, Pope Francis is not saying you are getting into heaven if you don't believe in God - this doesn't comment on salvation. He's only saying it's still possible to be a good person if you don't believe in God, which is true. The only real problem I have is the "the traditional notion of God is outdated". God is never outdated - he is the beginning, the middle and the end.

Yea, that's the part that bothered me the most.

Ohfour · Hooker

He's pandering. Wolf in sheep's clothing...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Oh, FFS.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

What? He's flat out lying. What he said is TOTALLY incompatible with Christianity. And the sheep are praising him for it.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Many Catholics can actually think for themselves...Oh, wait, you're trying to be witty by using the sheep/Shepherd allusion.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Many Catholics can actually think for themselves...Oh, wait, you're trying to be witty by using the sheep/Shepherd allusion.

flan

I'm actually not talking about Catholics. I'm talking about non-believers that think he's just wonderful. THAT is the problem. He's pandering to them...

Ando to clarify, the sheep "allusion" had NOTHING to do with the Shepherd. It's about the sheep jumping off the cliff...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 25th of September 2015 10:33:58 AM

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 25th of September 2015 10:34:15 AM

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Oh, come on. That 'quote' made the rounds ages ago, and was proven to be false then and it is still fake now. Much ado about nothing.
O4, if anyone is a wolf in sheep's clothing doing the devils work to destroy the faith, it is people like you, and people like Lily. Your nasty additude in the name of Christianity does more harm to the image of the faith and turns more people off from it and away from God then this Pope ever could.
You should see how you look from the outside. It is shameful.

Ohfour · Hooker

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Oh, come on. That 'quote' made the rounds ages ago, and was proven to be false then and it is still fake now. Much ado about nothing.
O4, if anyone is a wolf in sheep's clothing doing the devils work to destroy the faith, it is people like you, and people like Lily. Your nasty additude in the name of Christianity does more harm to the image of the faith and turns more people off from it and away from God then this Pope ever could.
You should see how you look from the outside. It is shameful.

Sorry, but when a church leader goes COMPLETELY against the teaching of the Bible, then I MUST call him out. People believe his drivel. A lot of what he says is incompatible with Christianity...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Oh, come on. That 'quote' made the rounds ages ago, and was proven to be false then and it is still fake now. Much ado about nothing.
O4, if anyone is a wolf in sheep's clothing doing the devils work to destroy the faith, it is people like you, and people like Lily. Your nasty additude in the name of Christianity does more harm to the image of the faith and turns more people off from it and away from God then this Pope ever could.
You should see how you look from the outside. It is shameful.

AMEN!!

flan

huskerbb · Guru

And without faith, it is impossible to please God, because anyone that comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him. Hebrews 11:6

People who don't believe in God can certainly do things that would be considered "good". Ok. That's nice. Now what? Want a cookie?

I don't know that anyone said that people with no faith can't do good things. The danger comes in when people say things like "well, I've led a pretty good life, so I'll go to heaven when I die". That is CLEARLY not the criteria to get into heaven. Neither is simply being "spiritual".

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Many Catholics can actually think for themselves...Oh, wait, you're trying to be witty by using the sheep/Shepherd allusion.

flan
I'm actually not talking about Catholics. I'm talking about non-believers that think he's just wonderful. THAT is the problem. He's pandering to them...

Ando to clarify, the sheep "allusion" had NOTHING to do with the Shepherd. It's about the sheep jumping off the cliff...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 25th of September 2015 10:33:58 AM

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 25th of September 2015 10:34:15 AM

Sheep don't jump off cliffs. Neither do lemmings, for that matter.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Many Catholics can actually think for themselves...Oh, wait, you're trying to be witty by using the sheep/Shepherd allusion.

flan
I'm actually not talking about Catholics. I'm talking about non-believers that think he's just wonderful. THAT is the problem. He's pandering to them...

Ando to clarify, the sheep "allusion" had NOTHING to do with the Shepherd. It's about the sheep jumping off the cliff...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 25th of September 2015 10:33:58 AM

-- Edited by Ohfour on Friday 25th of September 2015 10:34:15 AM
Sheep don't jump off cliffs. Neither do lemmings, for that matter.

Wrong...again...

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/offbeat/2005-07-08-sheep-suicide_x.htm

weltschmerz · Guru

Sheep have strong herding instincts. If one goes over a cliff, then others may follow. They're not actively committing suicide.
In any case, I like this Pope. Big surprise, eh?

weltschmerz · Guru

I don't like him enough to convert to Catholicism, but I like him.
If you think he's a "retard", well, that's up to you. It's a profoundly disrespectful remark.