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flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

RE: Do You Believe in the Devil?

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Your refusal to believe is pretty much proof of his existence. That is certainly what he wants you to believe.
Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy? Your refusal to believe is proof of her existence.
More words that Satan would have you say.

Lol! There's no point in continuing if you're going to insist that everything I say is influenced by Satan.

Don't like my Tooth Fairy analogy? How about this....your refusal to believe in Mohammed is proof of his existence. Your refusal to believe in Shiva or Vishnu or Krishna is proof of their existence.

Religion is not so much a matter of faith, my friend. It's more a matter of geography. If you had been born on the other side of the world, you'd have different gods. You'd be bathing statues of Ganesh in the holy Ganges and you'd have an altar in your home dedicated to multi-limbed elephant gods.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Your refusal to believe is pretty much proof of his existence. That is certainly what he wants you to believe.
Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy? Your refusal to believe is proof of her existence.
More words that Satan would have you say.
Lol! There's no point in continuing if you're going to insist that everything I say is influenced by Satan.
Don't like my Tooth Fairy analogy? How about this....your refusal to believe in Mohammed is proof of his existence. Your refusal to believe in Shiva or Vishnu or Krishna is proof of their existence.
Religion is not so much a matter of faith, my friend. It's more a matter of geography. If you had been born on the other side of the world, you'd have different gods. You'd be bathing statues of Ganesh in the holy Ganges and you'd have an altar in your home dedicated to multi-limbed elephant gods.

Exactly!

And WHY would we believe? Because our holy book said so...

flan

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Your refusal to believe is pretty much proof of his existence. That is certainly what he wants you to believe.
Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy? Your refusal to believe is proof of her existence.
More words that Satan would have you say.
Lol! There's no point in continuing if you're going to insist that everything I say is influenced by Satan.
Don't like my Tooth Fairy analogy? How about this....your refusal to believe in Mohammed is proof of his existence. Your refusal to believe in Shiva or Vishnu or Krishna is proof of their existence.
Religion is not so much a matter of faith, my friend. It's more a matter of geography. If you had been born on the other side of the world, you'd have different gods. You'd be bathing statues of Ganesh in the holy Ganges and you'd have an altar in your home dedicated to multi-limbed elephant gods.

??? I never said Mohammed didn't exist. Of course he did.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Your refusal to believe is pretty much proof of his existence. That is certainly what he wants you to believe.
Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy? Your refusal to believe is proof of her existence.
More words that Satan would have you say.
Lol! There's no point in continuing if you're going to insist that everything I say is influenced by Satan.
Don't like my Tooth Fairy analogy? How about this....your refusal to believe in Mohammed is proof of his existence. Your refusal to believe in Shiva or Vishnu or Krishna is proof of their existence.
Religion is not so much a matter of faith, my friend. It's more a matter of geography. If you had been born on the other side of the world, you'd have different gods. You'd be bathing statues of Ganesh in the holy Ganges and you'd have an altar in your home dedicated to multi-limbed elephant gods.
??? I never said Mohammed didn't exist. Of course he did.

You beat me to it! Of course Mohammed existed. No one has ever disputed that...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Tuesday 29th of September 2015 04:58:42 PM

-- Edited by Ohfour on Tuesday 29th of September 2015 05:01:53 PM

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Your refusal to believe is pretty much proof of his existence. That is certainly what he wants you to believe.
Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy? Your refusal to believe is proof of her existence.
More words that Satan would have you say.
Lol! There's no point in continuing if you're going to insist that everything I say is influenced by Satan.
Don't like my Tooth Fairy analogy? How about this....your refusal to believe in Mohammed is proof of his existence. Your refusal to believe in Shiva or Vishnu or Krishna is proof of their existence.
Religion is not so much a matter of faith, my friend. It's more a matter of geography. If you had been born on the other side of the world, you'd have different gods. You'd be bathing statues of Ganesh in the holy Ganges and you'd have an altar in your home dedicated to multi-limbed elephant gods.

Well.

Mohammed did exist.

Krishna did exist.

As for Vishnu, Shiva and Ganesh, there has been no proof they were real ever.

Again I say disprove God and Satan are real.

I'm still waiting.

So far all you have done is try to change the argument.

So chop chop.

God and Satan.

Prove to me they are NOT real.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

"...chop chop"??

I needed a good laugh!

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Your refusal to believe is pretty much proof of his existence. That is certainly what he wants you to believe.
Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy? Your refusal to believe is proof of her existence.
More words that Satan would have you say.
Lol! There's no point in continuing if you're going to insist that everything I say is influenced by Satan.
Don't like my Tooth Fairy analogy? How about this....your refusal to believe in Mohammed is proof of his existence. Your refusal to believe in Shiva or Vishnu or Krishna is proof of their existence.
Religion is not so much a matter of faith, my friend. It's more a matter of geography. If you had been born on the other side of the world, you'd have different gods. You'd be bathing statues of Ganesh in the holy Ganges and you'd have an altar in your home dedicated to multi-limbed elephant gods.
??? I never said Mohammed didn't exist. Of course he did.

You beat me to it! Of course Mohammed existed. No one has ever disputed that...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Tuesday 29th of September 2015 04:58:42 PM

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Your refusal to believe is pretty much proof of his existence. That is certainly what he wants you to believe.
Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy? Your refusal to believe is proof of her existence.
More words that Satan would have you say.
Lol! There's no point in continuing if you're going to insist that everything I say is influenced by Satan.
Don't like my Tooth Fairy analogy? How about this....your refusal to believe in Mohammed is proof of his existence. Your refusal to believe in Shiva or Vishnu or Krishna is proof of their existence.
Religion is not so much a matter of faith, my friend. It's more a matter of geography. If you had been born on the other side of the world, you'd have different gods. You'd be bathing statues of Ganesh in the holy Ganges and you'd have an altar in your home dedicated to multi-limbed elephant gods.
Well.
Mohammed did exist.
Krishna did exist.
As for Vishnu, Shiva and Ganesh, there has been no proof they were real ever.
Again I say disprove God and Satan are real.
I'm still waiting.
So far all you have done is try to change the argument.
So chop chop.
God and Satan.
Prove to me they are NOT real.

Again with the logical fallacy. No matter how many times I explain it, you keep boucing back, demanding "disproof."

I give up.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

We arent asking you to disprove God. We are asking you to prove how nothing became something and how non life created life.

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
We arent asking you to disprove God. We are asking you to prove how nothing became something and how non life created life.

Look at the post above yours.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Your refusal to believe is pretty much proof of his existence. That is certainly what he wants you to believe.
Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy? Your refusal to believe is proof of her existence.
More words that Satan would have you say.
Lol! There's no point in continuing if you're going to insist that everything I say is influenced by Satan.
Don't like my Tooth Fairy analogy? How about this....your refusal to believe in Mohammed is proof of his existence. Your refusal to believe in Shiva or Vishnu or Krishna is proof of their existence.
Religion is not so much a matter of faith, my friend. It's more a matter of geography. If you had been born on the other side of the world, you'd have different gods. You'd be bathing statues of Ganesh in the holy Ganges and you'd have an altar in your home dedicated to multi-limbed elephant gods.
Well.
Mohammed did exist.
Krishna did exist.
As for Vishnu, Shiva and Ganesh, there has been no proof they were real ever.
Again I say disprove God and Satan are real.
I'm still waiting.
So far all you have done is try to change the argument.
So chop chop.
God and Satan.
Prove to me they are NOT real.
Again with the logical fallacy. No matter how many times I explain it, you keep boucing back, demanding "disproof."
I give up.

I've given you proof they are both real and they exist.

I ask you to prove they dont.

You keep throwing out other gods and deities.

So you have nothing.

The logic fail isn't mine.

It's yours.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
We arent asking you to disprove God. We are asking you to prove how nothing became something and how non life created life.

No.

That is exactly what I am doing.

She says He and Satan are not real and asks me to prove they are.

I've put my proof up.

I'm waiting for hers.

huskerbb · Guru

What is the proof that the Punic wars occurred? There really isn't an archeological record--but we believe it happened because we read about it.

I don't see how this is different. You can and DO believe many things that you read with no further proof.

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
We arent asking you to disprove God. We are asking you to prove how nothing became something and how non life created life.
No.
That is exactly what I am doing.
She says He and Satan are not real and asks me to prove they are.
I've put my proof up.
I'm waiting for hers.

You didn't put ANY proof up. Zip. Zero. None.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
We arent asking you to disprove God. We are asking you to prove how nothing became something and how non life created life.
No.
That is exactly what I am doing.
She says He and Satan are not real and asks me to prove they are.
I've put my proof up.
I'm waiting for hers.
You didn't put ANY proof up. Zip. Zero. None.

Yes. I did.

The Bible.

A book full of eyewitness accounts.

Again. Prove to me I'm wrong.

I'm giving you a chance here.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Circular reasoning is not proof.

flan

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
We arent asking you to disprove God. We are asking you to prove how nothing became something and how non life created life.
No.
That is exactly what I am doing.
She says He and Satan are not real and asks me to prove they are.
I've put my proof up.
I'm waiting for hers.
You didn't put ANY proof up. Zip. Zero. None.

Why isn't reading about it enough? You believe many things with no more evidence than that.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Circular reasoning is not proof.

flan

The Bible is not circular reasoning. It's a historical document full of eyewitness accounts.

You have absolutely nothing to disprove the Bible.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

By flan's reasoning, nothing we haven't seen for ourselves exists.

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

Ok, so those who don't believe in God or Jesus, do you celebrate Christmas? Why?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

There have been hundreds of eye-witness accounts of UFO sightings as well.

So little green men exist?

flan

Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

flan327 wrote:
There have been hundreds of eye-witness accounts of UFO sightings as well.

So little green men exist?

flan

Yep.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
There have been hundreds of eye-witness accounts of UFO sightings as well.

So little green men exist?

flan

I don't know. I certainly think it is possible that we are not alone in the universe.

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
We arent asking you to disprove God. We are asking you to prove how nothing became something and how non life created life.
No.
That is exactly what I am doing.
She says He and Satan are not real and asks me to prove they are.
I've put my proof up.
I'm waiting for hers.
You didn't put ANY proof up. Zip. Zero. None.
Why isn't reading about it enough? You believe many things with no more evidence than that.

You can't use the bible to prove the bible. It's like me using a Hrry Potter book to prove Hogwart's is real.

Lindley · Guru

Actually a historian well known at that time (I can't for the life of me remember his name) recorded a great crowd following Jesus. He wasn't a religious scholar either.

huskerbb · Guru

How do you know Hannibal led armies against Rome? How do you know Helen of Troy existed? How do you know Charles Martel defeated the Moors in the Battle of Tours? How do you know Nero was an emperor of Rome?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
We arent asking you to disprove God. We are asking you to prove how nothing became something and how non life created life.
No.
That is exactly what I am doing.
She says He and Satan are not real and asks me to prove they are.
I've put my proof up.
I'm waiting for hers.
You didn't put ANY proof up. Zip. Zero. None.
Why isn't reading about it enough? You believe many things with no more evidence than that.
You can't use the bible to prove the bible. It's like me using a Hrry Potter book to prove Hogwart's is real.

And yet it's still more proof than you have.

Lindley · Guru

We can go back and forth with each other all day and night. I know who I believe in and I am not ashamed. I can't make you believe (I wish I could I want everyone to know Him) In the end it is a personal choice only a person can make. I can tell you about Jesus but I can't make you believe in Jesus. I like you guys and I Pray that you will understand someday what the Christian Faith is.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

You're right Lindley.

And I am trying to see the other side.

I'm not arguing.

I'm offering an open mind.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
We arent asking you to disprove God. We are asking you to prove how nothing became something and how non life created life.
No.
That is exactly what I am doing.
She says He and Satan are not real and asks me to prove they are.
I've put my proof up.
I'm waiting for hers.
You didn't put ANY proof up. Zip. Zero. None.
Why isn't reading about it enough? You believe many things with no more evidence than that.
You can't use the bible to prove the bible. It's like me using a Hrry Potter book to prove Hogwart's is real.

*Harry*...since you seem to think you are so perfect...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
We arent asking you to disprove God. We are asking you to prove how nothing became something and how non life created life.
No.
That is exactly what I am doing.
She says He and Satan are not real and asks me to prove they are.
I've put my proof up.
I'm waiting for hers.
You didn't put ANY proof up. Zip. Zero. None.
Why isn't reading about it enough? You believe many things with no more evidence than that.
You can't use the bible to prove the bible. It's like me using a Hrry Potter book to prove Hogwart's is real.
*Harry*...since you seem to think you are so perfect...

MWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA! !!!!!!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
You're right Lindley.

And I am trying to see the other side.

I'm not arguing.

I'm offering an open mind.

Really??

flan

weltschmerz · Guru

Lindley wrote:
We can go back and forth with each other all day and night. I know who I believe in and I am not ashamed. I can't make you believe (I wish I could I want everyone to know Him) In the end it is a personal choice only a person can make. I can tell you about Jesus but I can't make you believe in Jesus. I like you guys and I Pray that you will understand someday what the Christian Faith is.

I like you, too. I do understand what the Christian faith is. I used to be one, and now I'm not. Don't feel bad for me. I'm fine.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
We arent asking you to disprove God. We are asking you to prove how nothing became something and how non life created life.
No.
That is exactly what I am doing.
She says He and Satan are not real and asks me to prove they are.
I've put my proof up.
I'm waiting for hers.
You didn't put ANY proof up. Zip. Zero. None.
Why isn't reading about it enough? You believe many things with no more evidence than that.
You can't use the bible to prove the bible. It's like me using a Hrry Potter book to prove Hogwart's is real.
*Harry*...since you seem to think you are so perfect...

smile

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
Lindley wrote:
We can go back and forth with each other all day and night. I know who I believe in and I am not ashamed. I can't make you believe (I wish I could I want everyone to know Him) In the end it is a personal choice only a person can make. I can tell you about Jesus but I can't make you believe in Jesus. I like you guys and I Pray that you will understand someday what the Christian Faith is.
I like you, too. I do understand what the Christian faith is. I used to be one, and now I'm not. Don't feel bad for me. I'm fine.

No, you thought you were a Christian. Or you claimed to be. But you never were...

ed11563 · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lindley wrote:
We can go back and forth with each other all day and night. I know who I believe in and I am not ashamed. I can't make you believe (I wish I could I want everyone to know Him) In the end it is a personal choice only a person can make. I can tell you about Jesus but I can't make you believe in Jesus. I like you guys and I Pray that you will understand someday what the Christian Faith is.
I like you, too. I do understand what the Christian faith is. I used to be one, and now I'm not. Don't feel bad for me. I'm fine.
No, you thought you were a Christian. Or you claimed to be. But you never were...

in your opinion

ed11563 · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
You're right Lindley.

And I am trying to see the other side.

I'm not arguing.

I'm offering an open mind.

I don't think anyone here has an open mind concerning religion.

Mary Zombie · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
How do you know Hannibal led armies against Rome? How do you know Helen of Troy existed? How do you know Charles Martel defeated the Moors in the Battle of Tours? How do you know Nero was an emperor of Rome?

Exactly. How do we know that Paul Revere took that ride?

How do we know anything in the history books happened?

huskerbb · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
How do you know Hannibal led armies against Rome? How do you know Helen of Troy existed? How do you know Charles Martel defeated the Moors in the Battle of Tours? How do you know Nero was an emperor of Rome?

<crickets chirping>

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

So nothing EVER happened!

Got it...

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
So nothing EVER happened!

Got it...

flan

LOL!!! No. The question is how do you know about those things, not that they didn't happen.

You don't "got it", at all.

I see you can't answer the question.

WYSIWYG · Guru

I believe Satan is an addition by man, to the Bible.

Unlike some people, I don't subscribe to the "The Bible is the perfect word of God" belief. I fall more in line with "The Bible is inspired by God but written by men with their biases and human failings and frailties influencing the outcome of the final work".

weltschmerz · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Weltz - I don't have a problem with you choosing not to believe, but your utter disdain for those that do is disturbing, disrespectful, and downright wrong.

I'm being disrespectful? I'm not the one who called the Pope a retard.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

weltschmerz wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Weltz - I don't have a problem with you choosing not to believe, but your utter disdain for those that do is disturbing, disrespectful, and downright wrong.
I'm being disrespectful? I'm not the one who called the Pope a retard.

AMEN!!!!

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Weltz - I don't have a problem with you choosing not to believe, but your utter disdain for those that do is disturbing, disrespectful, and downright wrong.
I'm being disrespectful? I'm not the one who called the Pope a retard.

Oh boo hoo.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

She likes being the Victim.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She likes being the Victim.

She merely pointed out yet another example of Christian hypocrisy...

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

OMG! The H word! We are all supposed to fall down and die! Wah!

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She likes being the Victim.
She merely pointed out yet another example of Christian hypocrisy...
flan

Did I call the Pope a retard? No, I didn't. Furthermore, the Pope is a public figure and is not a member of this board. There is quite a difference there. One I know you are not quite smart enough to grasp.

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Wednesday 30th of September 2015 07:34:29 AM