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Obama didn't "call" for anything. He did his usual grandstanding and making political hay off a tragedy. It's what he does best.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Obama didn't "call" for anything. He did his usual grandstanding and making political hay off a tragedy. It's what he does best.

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 He can't run again...so explain the "hay?"

I heard a tired frustrated man at the podium last night.

flan

flan327 wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Obama didn't "call" for anything. He did his usual grandstanding and making political hay off a tragedy. It's what he does best.

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 He can't run again...so explain the "hay?"

I heard a tired frustrated man at the podium last night.

flan

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He should be.  I would be too if I was such a failure at my job...

flan327 wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Obama didn't "call" for anything. He did his usual grandstanding and making political hay off a tragedy. It's what he does best.

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 He can't run again...so explain the "hay?"

I heard a tired frustrated man at the podium last night.

flan

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 The hay is in trying to use this as a basis to make things more difficult for law abiding gun owners.

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flan327 wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Obama didn't "call" for anything. He did his usual grandstanding and making political hay off a tragedy. It's what he does best.

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 He can't run again...so explain the "hay?"

I heard a tired frustrated man at the podium last night.

flan

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 The hay is in trying to use this as a basis to make things more difficult for law abiding gun owners.

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 Well, he acknowledged that the majority of gun owners ARE law-abiding.

flan

flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Obama didn't "call" for anything. He did his usual grandstanding and making political hay off a tragedy. It's what he does best.

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 He can't run again...so explain the "hay?"

I heard a tired frustrated man at the podium last night.

flan

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He should be.  I would be too if I was such a failure at my job...

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 Nope, it was about having to discuss SO DAMN MANY mass shootings.

THAT'S what last night was about.

flan

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He should clean up his own house first.  Lead by example...but that would be far too difficult... 

I mean, I can't even believe that there were votes to defund parts of the NSA - they are the ones that watch for this stuff. There should be entire profiling sections trolling the internet for these loons and watching them.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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I mean, I can't even believe that there were votes to defund parts of the NSA - they are the ones that watch for this stuff. There should be entire profiling sections trolling the internet for these loons and watching them.

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 Well we wouldn't want to hurt their feelings or insult them because we are being brainwashed to accept evil as normal. I only see it getting worse.

My family all own guns, we hunt, in fact 3 of my 5 kids are elk hunting right now and one got his deer this morning just outside of town at the ranch. We eat what they hunt, and do not hunt for sport. There is NO way in heck or hell any of us would give up our guns. My kids were raised around them and have taken hunter safety classes and know that guns are NOT toys, and what a gun is capable of.

It is very frightening how many abuse guns and the poor innocent people it affect, but I do not agree to take all guns, it will not stop criminals etc. from having guns. AT.ALL

and I also wonder why this tragedy has been just another platform for Mr. Obama to leap on to further his own agenda. which I do NOT agree with, but I also will not argue debate that.

I agree it must stop...but how? I do not know, but obviously there must be a better way. Just how to find it

flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Obama didn't "call" for anything. He did his usual grandstanding and making political hay off a tragedy. It's what he does best.

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 He can't run again...so explain the "hay?"

I heard a tired frustrated man at the podium last night.

flan

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He should be.  I would be too if I was such a failure at my job...

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 Nope, it was about having to discuss SO DAMN MANY mass shootings.

THAT'S what last night was about.

flan

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 More people are gunned down in Chicago on any given weekend then are gunned down in any of these school/theatre shootings.  Why is he not speaking out about that?  And Illinois has some of the most tough gun control laws.  Tell me the logic.

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Obama didn't "call" for anything. He did his usual grandstanding and making political hay off a tragedy. It's what he does best.

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 He can't run again...so explain the "hay?"

I heard a tired frustrated man at the podium last night.

flan

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He should be.  I would be too if I was such a failure at my job...

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 Nope, it was about having to discuss SO DAMN MANY mass shootings.

THAT'S what last night was about.

flan

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 More people are gunned down in Chicago on any given weekend then are gunned down in any of these school/theatre shootings.  Why is he not speaking out about that?  And Illinois has some of the most tough gun control laws.  Tell me the logic.

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 DS1 lives in Chicago and I am very aware of how many people are shot & killed there. There is NO logic.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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If liberals want to have an HONEST conversation about Gun control, then I am game. Let's discuss the mass shootings and how and where the guns were obtained. Let's discuss laws that are ALREADY in place that were violated anyway to carry out these crimes. Let's discuss how govt dropped the ball in enforcing their own laws. Let's talk about what SPECIFIC law would have prevented any one of these crimes. If you can have an honest discussion rather than scream Gun Control! then we may. But, I have yet to see this conversation happen.

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Exactly.  NONE of the proposals that were batted around after Sandy Hook would have made one damn bit of difference in that shooting--NONE.

 

They wanted to ban "assault" weapons--but Lanza also carried two handguns.   It would have made no difference.

They wanted better background checks--but Lanza didn't purchase the guns, so it would have made NO difference.

 

Those were just two. I can't remember them all, but there were several others, and NONE of them would have made one iota of difference had they been in place before Sandy Hook. 

Gun Free Zone is a fairy tale. Hello. Wake up.

It amazes me how many 30 somethings live with their parents, no jobs, or at least no career. I walk around my neighborhood a lot, I frequently see these "kids" just hanging around outside, doing nothing, while their parents are doing yard work. I live in a good neighborhood filled with people who work hard. But there are at least 4 of these types of young adults in the neighborhood. I think these are the types that end up committing these horrid crimes. They have no life to speak of, no ambition, and live in a fantasy world through the fame of others in You Tube videos.

Someone whose family is surrounded by guns every second of every day.....you know, for their protection. ...

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The more I read about the accounts from the survivors, the witnesses, the less I understand why they did not attempt to stop him, why they did not "rush" toward him. Not blaming them, but as a society, have we placed the "protection" burden elsewhere and so just do what the perp says to do? I really do think that is part of the issue.

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I think you've expressed a very important point. 

 

Since the Holocaust, Jews generally say "NEVER AGAIN"

which affect the thinking about Iran's nukes.

 

But as you say, most people don't act. Maybe it's disbelief, maybe it's just being frozen with fear, maybe it's "magical thinking". But any way I think of it, it's very scary and disappointing.

 

I watch the TV show "What Would You Do?" and think about their scenarios, where people can intervene in a problem situation at NO risk to themselves, and very few people do.

Then when there MIGHT be some risk, like if they would have to stand up to a bully to rescue someone ...

Many more people just walk on by.

A few will call 9-1-1, very few will say something or physically intervene... very few.

 

But THESE college age people should have known after the first shot, that they had nothing to lose by charging him. 

 

 

 

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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:

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The more I read about the accounts from the survivors, the witnesses, the less I understand why they did not attempt to stop him, why they did not "rush" toward him. Not blaming them, but as a society, have we placed the "protection" burden elsewhere and so just do what the perp says to do? I really do think that is part of the issue.

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I think you've expressed a very important point. 

 

Since the Holocaust, Jews generally say "NEVER AGAIN"

which affect the thinking about Iran's nukes.

 

But as you say, most people don't act. Maybe it's disbelief, maybe it's just being frozen with fear, maybe it's "magical thinking". But any way I think of it, it's very scary and disappointing.

 

I watch the TV show "What Would You Do?" and think about their scenarios, where people can intervene in a problem situation at NO risk to themselves, and very few people do.

Then when there MIGHT be some risk, like if they would have to stand up to a bully to rescue someone ...

Many more people just walk on by.

A few will call 9-1-1, very few will say something or physically intervene... very few.

 

But THESE college age people should have known after the first shot, that they had nothing to lose by charging him. 

 

 

 

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 Sadly, the bolded gets a thumbs up. I know my son would act, even if not armed; he would fight to the death to protect himself and other, me too.  I do not think most kids today are taught that, I think they grow up thinking "the gov't will protect them" so they do not get the self survival thing. It is sad.

Guess Which Mass Murderer Was On A ‘Terrorist List’ That Obama REFUSED To Accept



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By Lauren Richardson
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When Barack Obama gave his speech to America pleading for stricter gun laws to save our children from further harm he neglected to mention that he was given the shooter’s full identity as a ‘TERRORIST’ and he refused to accept the report! Why? He said it was not “politically viable in the present atmosphere.” Which means, that Obama is responsible for the death of 10 people!

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EU Times reports:




Russia’s Federal Security Services (FSB) reported today that the American black-Islamist terror suspect, who yesterday committed an act of mass murder in Oregon, had been included on a list of 87,000 “known/suspected” Islamic terrorists that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) refused to accept last month from the Russia’s Federation due to its not being “politically viable in the present atmosphere”.

According to this report, the black-Islamist terrorist who committed this act of terror, Chris Harper Mercer, had previously been identified by electronic intelligence specialists within the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) as being an Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL) adherent after he had attempted to gain passage to Syria via Turkey during the first week of September, 2015.

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By the Obama regime refusing to accept this terror list from the Federation, this report continues, Mercer was able to accomplish his terror act when yesterday he killed 9 people and wounded 7 others at the Umpqua Community College prior to his being shot and killed by local US police forces.

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Most critical to note about this FSB report is that where it ends, the mysterious, and hugely read, Russian publication Reedus (Ridus.ru) continues—and to fully understand this information one must note that Russian intelligence agencies (SVR/FSB) frequently use Reedus to put information into the public sphere that otherwise would have serious international consequences should the government be found to be behind it—thus giving Reedus its current status known as “a Kremlin resource” and an “agency of Orthodox journalism”. [Русский]




And the information relating to the black-Islamist terrorist Mercer “leaked” into Reedus by the SVR/FSB is, to say the least, shocking and disturbing–including that immediately after the Oregon mass shooting, his Internet personal profile was changed from his true identity as an ISIS/ISIL terror supporter to one of his being a “white conservative Republican”. [Русский]

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Also important to be noted was Mercer’s association with the ISIS/ISIL terrorist Mahmoud Ali Ehsani, who is banned in Russia [Русский], and was one of only two of Mercer’s MySpace “friends” and who praises the Islamic State, calls for the killing of Jews and glorifies in pictures on his MySpace page his rapture of these terrorists.

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With the true knowledge of Mercer being known as the black-Islamic terrorist he truly was, information which the Obama regime refused to accept from Russia, his mass terror act in identifying and killing Christians becomes immediately understandable.

Obama and his propaganda media lapdogs are disguising the truth from the American people about this horrific act of Islamic terror against them, especially to the families of the dead and wounded, and the reason is, once again, Obama refuses to call it an ‘Islamic terrorist’ act!

But this should not surprise anyone because Barack Hussein Obama has been using tragic events to push his gun agenda since he took office. That, and he will not make reference to Islamic terrorism.
- See more at: truthuncensored.net/guess-which-mass-murderer-was-on-a-terrorist-list-that-obama-refused-to-accept/

flan327 wrote:

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No histrionics in that news story...

flan

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 You know what, flan - people like you are the reason this kind of thing is allowed to keep happening.  It's not the law abiding people with guns, it's the damn politically correct head in the sand liberals. 

 

And I'm fvcking sick of it.  Barack Hussein Obama (I'm going to call him that EVERY time now) uses the backs of the dead to try to deprive U.S. citizens of their rights, and you defend his ineptitude in the face of dead people after  dead people after dead people. 

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Sunday 4th of October 2015 07:54:09 AM

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I know what his name is, tyvm.

What is YOUR solution? I KNOW THERE IS A PROBLEM, one that is NOT going away.

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 For one - PROFILE.  Profile the hell out of people and their internet rants and watch them.  And yes, that means Muslims.  Freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom to kill.  I'm tired of the politically correct "it's only the radicals".  There are 2 MILLION radical Muslims.  Wake the hell up.

Two - get rid of gun free zones, they simply make easy targets. 

 

Three - get a president the world will actually respect, and fear a little bit.  Weak countries are targets.

 

We can't get rid of all the evil, but we can prepare for it better, prevent as much as we can, and we can respond better.

And good grief - STOP with the agenda idiocy. MSN actually has a headline today that the shooter wasn't targeting Christians, and quotes some moron as the source saying -

"Obviously he was asking what religion, but he wasn't really just targeting. He was kind of just saying, 'Oh, since you have a God, you'll be joining him in a little bit," McGowan told The News.

"It wasn't really like, 'I'm targeting you and I'm going to kill you,'" he said.

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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And good grief - STOP with the agenda idiocy. MSN actually has a headline today that the shooter wasn't targeting Christians, and quotes some moron as the source saying -

"Obviously he was asking what religion, but he wasn't really just targeting. He was kind of just saying, 'Oh, since you have a God, you'll be joining him in a little bit," McGowan told The News.

"It wasn't really like, 'I'm targeting you and I'm going to kill you,'" he said.

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 Okay, that made me laugh.

flan

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Yeah, that's "hysterical".

Have a good laugh. That's really bad even for you flan.

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flan327 wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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And good grief - STOP with the agenda idiocy. MSN actually has a headline today that the shooter wasn't targeting Christians, and quotes some moron as the source saying -

"Obviously he was asking what religion, but he wasn't really just targeting. He was kind of just saying, 'Oh, since you have a God, you'll be joining him in a little bit," McGowan told The News.

"It wasn't really like, 'I'm targeting you and I'm going to kill you,'" he said.

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 Okay, that made me laugh.

flan

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 What??????

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 Oh, good grief...because it's SO STUPID.

flan