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http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2015/10/the-case-for-expensive-clothes/408652/

If you’ve ever found yourself buying clothes just because they’re cheap, or if shopping itself has become a form of entertainment for you, I’ve got a proposal: The next time you buy something, spend a whole lot on it. Enough that it makes you sweat a little.

The point is to make you pause and ask yourself, “How much do I really want this?”


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In the U.S. and much of the industrialized world, cheap clothes are everywhere. At any fast-fashion chain store, you’ll find piles upon piles of jeans that cost less than $20. The problem is, all that low-cost clothing is produced, sold, and finally discarded in mass quantities, which has serious consequences for the environment, the workers paid poorly to make them, and even the mental well-being of the people buying them.

As a fashion reporter, I like clothes probably more than most. But I also know all the troubling facts represented by those cheap t-shirts and jeans. For more than a year now, I’ve set myself a simple goal for every clothing purchase. It’s an entirely personal choice that I feel helps me buy less and enjoy my purchases more. My hope is that it also reduces how much I contribute to some of those issues mentioned above

The goal is to spend at least $150 on each item of clothing. And I propose you give it a try.

The immediate reaction I get when I tell people about this goal—and I call it a goal because I don’t always live up to it—is that $150 is a lot to spend for a piece of clothing.

That’s especially true if your standard for pricing is a store like Primark, the insanely cheap Irish fast-fashion chain that recently opened its first U.S. location. For designer fashion, where a t-shirt can easily clear $150, it’s actually a pretty low hurdle.

But it’s enough that it causes me to seriously hesitate, which is the real point. It forces me to think about just how much I want that item of clothing, how much I’ll wear it, and whether I think the value it offers is worth a significant cost.

Importantly, $150 is also enough that I can’t make these purchases all the time, at least not without sacrificing elsewhere or going broke. It’s an investment, rather than the cheap buzz of getting something new.

Now, not everyone should have the same dollar limit. Each person should determine a standard based on income and other financial responsibilities. But it should be just enough that it causes you to wince slightly. My limit—as a married, childless, working journalist, saving up to one day buy an apartment—might fall somewhere between that of a single parent on an hourly wage and that of a high roller like author Buzz Bissinger, who wrote of his addiction to Gucci in GQ. (If you’re shopping like Bissinger, though, setting a dollar floor isn’t going to solve anything.)


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But the process for all of us, whether we’re shopping at Forever 21 or Prada, is psychologically similar. Researchers have found that the insula—the part of the brain that registers pain—plays a role in purchase decisions. Our brain weighs the pleasure of acquiring against the pain of paying. As clothing prices decline, that pain does too, making shopping easy entertainment, disconnecting it from our actual clothing needs. It’s something I think of whenever I stumble on the haul videos that have blown up on YouTube in the last few years.
To restore that balance, the price of the clothing we consider purchasing should be high enough that it “hurts” at least a little—and for me, around $150 fulfills that requirement.

So the striped, cotton Dries Van Noten sweater I bought in July came in at $200. I deliberated for some time on that one as I walked around the store.

Last winter, my mid-weight jacket from the Japanese label Sage de Cret cost $200, and prompted some soul-searching as I tried to decide how much I really wanted and needed it. I ended up selling an Ann Demeulemeester jacket that didn’t fit quite right to make up for it.

Last fall, I spent more than a week deciding whether to buy a grungy patchwork shirt from Takahiro Miya****a’s label, The Soloist, since it was an online sale and offered no returns. But even at more than $200, it has been well worth it. The amount of thought and detail that went into the shirt impresses me every time I put it on.


All of these items, I should note, were discounted from their original retail prices. But these were still significant purchases for me. I didn’t take them lightly.
On the other hand, I chose not to buy a boiled wool blazer from Sage de Cret that was actually slightly less than the jacket I got. It fit me perfectly, but I wasn’t sure how much use I’d get out of it. At that price, I decided to pass.

I also didn’t buy a pair of grey tweed Haider Ackermann pants, a black Dries Van Noten sweatshirt, and plenty of other items I wanted, purely because my other purchases had already taxed my budget.

But I’ve also resisted cheaper buys. Recently, for example, I considered grabbing a black sweatshirt for $29 at Uniqlo, and I decided to pass. I can afford it, but I can also find something elsewhere that I’ll value more. I’m thinking of trying out my first loopwheeled sweatshirt instead.

The ideal consequence of this way of shopping, if you give it a try, isn’t just to buy less, but also to buy better. By forcing myself to seriously consider my purchases, I’ve been more likely to buy clothes I genuinely like and appreciate, rather than accumulating low-cost impulse buys.

It’s a philosophy that has something in common with the guiding principle of Marie Kondo’s book, The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up, which has developed a near-religious following. It dictates that only items that spark joy should have a place in your closet. Here, you’re considering the extent of that joy before the item even makes it into your closet.





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There are some good points here. Humans tend to value things that cost more. However, it would be nonsensical to walk around in a $150 shirt when I am doing my dishes or whatever. This is a pretty casual town. And, for most of daily life, some basic clothes are fine.

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I can't justify spending $50 on a shirt. Much less $150.

I don't buy clothes often. I don't spend a lot when I do.

I buy pieces that work with multiple things I already have if I need something.

And I don't have a problem with thrift or yard sales either.

So if I am wearing an expensive anything, I probably didn't give more than a few bucks for it.

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If you drip spaghetti sauce on a cheap shirt or a pricey one, the end result is the same, lol. I dont' mind paying a lot for a jacket. But, for a tee shirt or shirt, no.

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It really depends on what it is. I don't mind paying more for a classic that will last - but for today's fashion? No.

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As a former clothing buyer I spend a ton on clothes. I like to shop at Barney's.

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If I am wearing something I value when I cook, I wear an apron. I tend to keep items (and wear more often) if I spend more. They fit better, last longer, and maintain their shape better. And if something fits and holds their shape, I look better.

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It really depends on what it is. I don't mind paying more for a classic that will last
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precisely--quality never comes cheap--have several pair of custom boots that were around fifteen hundred to a couple of grand each and have owned some of them for fifteen to twenty years--would rather spend the money once than replace them every three to five years


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I wear jeans and Harley tshirts and flip flops or my riding boots.

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Form now until April, I will be found in a hoodie, jeans/yoga pants, and boots. Every day...

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I buy expensive clothes. I keep my clothes for a long time. In the long run it is cheaper and I have classic styles, for work. T shirts and such? Who cares? I will buy a few higher quality ones, but keep a supply of cheap ones on hand.

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Form now until April, I will be found in a hoodie, jeans/yoga pants, and boots. Every day...


 You should get a look at me in the winter especially when it snows a few days in a row.  I invented the grunge look!



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I buy expensive clothes. I keep my clothes for a long time. In the long run it is cheaper and I have classic styles, for work. T shirts and such? Who cares? I will buy a few higher quality ones, but keep a supply of cheap ones on hand.


 I do the same. And I feel the same way about shoes and handbags. They are an investment. You need to wear clothes and wouldn't you rather spend $50 once instead of $10 6 or 7 times ?!?! 



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If people have the budget to afford to pay those prices for clothes, hey, more power to them.  I don't, so I only buy clothes when I really do need new ones.   I am also handy with needle and thread, and if clothes need repairing, I just do it by hand.  When I need good quality clothing, I go to Sears.  I have been shopping there for decades, and their clothing stands up well over time.  It does not cost me several hundred dollars for one pair of jeans.   I have bought clothing from Wal-Mart and K-Mart and they do not last.  Designer names mean nothing to me.  I tend to be budget conscious and really don't feel the need to show off the latest from whatever designer, etc. 

Right now, I am pretty much debt-free.  Just a few more months.  I have extra money now to buy new clothing, but I don't.  Because the ones I have are just fine.  No worn areas, no holes, etc.  I am still the same frugal person I was before.   It works for me and I am used to it.  I don't need a lot of clothing.  I have a basic wardrobe.  I wash my clothes at the laundromat once a week so they are clean and smell nice, then fold or hang them and put them away.  I take care of the clothes I have and they last quite awhile.  And the clothing/styles I wear will not go out of style.  I would rather save the extra money I have now for other purposes. 

I am surprised at how much great clothing I can find at Value Village/Savers.  Sometimes brand new.  If people want to judge me, they will.  And they do and have, especially online, and also at work.  I have become privy to some interesting stories/speculation about me, none of them true; but get a bunch of gossips together and they take off with it.  Nothing I can do about it, and I don't have time for petty people.  I am happy with the way I look and what I wear. wink  Thanks.

 



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If people have the budget to afford to pay those prices for clothes, hey, more power to them.  I don't, so I only buy clothes when I really do need new ones.   I am also handy with needle and thread, and if clothes need repairing, I just do it by hand.  When I need good quality clothing, I go to Sears.  I have been shopping there for decades, and their clothing stands up well over time.  It does not cost me several hundred dollars for one pair of jeans.   I have bought clothing from Wal-Mart and K-Mart and they do not last.  Designer names mean nothing to me.  I tend to be budget conscious and really don't feel the need to show off the latest from whatever designer, etc. 

Right now, I am pretty much debt-free.  Just a few more months.  I have extra money now to buy new clothing, but I don't.  Because the ones I have are just fine.  No worn areas, no holes, etc.  I am still the same frugal person I was before.   It works for me and I am used to it.  I don't need a lot of clothing.  I have a basic wardrobe.  I wash my clothes at the laundromat once a week so they are clean and smell nice, then fold or hang them and put them away.  I take care of the clothes I have and they last quite awhile.  And the clothing/styles I wear will not go out of style.  I would rather save the extra money I have now for other purposes. 

I am surprised at how much great clothing I can find at Value Village/Savers.  Sometimes brand new.  If people want to judge me, they will.  And they do and have, especially online, and also at work.  I have become privy to some interesting stories/speculation about me, none of them true; but get a bunch of gossips together and they take off with it.  Nothing I can do about it, and I don't have time for petty people.  I am happy with the way I look and what I wear. wink  Thanks.

 


 They judge you for that?  i find bargains for household items and clothes for DD all the time on FB yard sale sights.  Tons of people buy/sell things this way.  I've saved a ton of money and I get some nice things.  



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The one item I spend big bucks on is SHOES. I have two pairs of dress shoes that I wear to Church and special occasions that I spent over $100 each on. There is a manufacturer here in San Antonio (SAS Shoes) that hand finishes its shoes - and they last! They look good, are comfortable, and I haven't had to get new heels or soles.

I still have (and wear!) clothing from 1990 - if you buy quality, and take care of it - good clothing will last for decades.



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The one item I spend big bucks on is SHOES. I have two pairs of dress shoes that I wear to Church and special occasions that I spent over $100 each on. There is a manufacturer here in San Antonio (SAS Shoes) that hand finishes its shoes - and they last! They look good, are comfortable, and I haven't had to get new heels or soles.

I still have (and wear!) clothing from 1990 - if you buy quality, and take care of it - good clothing will last for decades.


 I have a pair of the SAS shoes. They are nice. Not pretty. I can no longer wear them and I feel really bad about that cause they were $60. 

Mom got them for me for Christmas one year. Only thing is, when she took me to get them, I was having an issue with severe swelling. 

I tried to tell her. She wouldn't listen.

I call them my old lady shoes.

I would like to have some of their prettier shoes. But I have to stick with the ones like I have.



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