A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
"Militia"
flan
The right of the people to keep and bear Arms is separate from the Militia. Two distinct rights in the Second Amendment.
But it is because a militia is important that the people can bear arms.
The country is not the same as it was when this was written.
flan
The country isn't the same for the First Amendment as well. So, should we take away those rights as well?
The right to bear arms is to protect citizens from a dictatorship. History proves that fact. An unarmed population is subjugated (Bolsheviks and Nazi's disarmed the public), an armed population is free.
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
"Militia"
flan
The right of the people to keep and bear Arms is separate from the Militia. Two distinct rights in the Second Amendment.
But it is because a militia is important that the people can bear arms.
The country is not the same as it was when this was written.
flan
The country isn't the same for the First Amendment as well. So, should we take away those rights as well?
The right to bear arms is to protect citizens from a dictatorship. History proves that fact. An unarmed population is subjugated (Bolsheviks and Nazi's disarmed the public), an armed population is free.
So we live in a country where, unless I own a gun, I could be "subjugated?"
This tired, old, false argument, again? It has long been established both legislatively and through the courts that the 2nd amendment gives individual citizens the right to arms apart from any militia.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
"Militia"
flan
The right of the people to keep and bear Arms is separate from the Militia. Two distinct rights in the Second Amendment.
But it is because a militia is important that the people can bear arms.
The country is not the same as it was when this was written.
flan
The country isn't the same for the First Amendment as well. So, should we take away those rights as well?
The right to bear arms is to protect citizens from a dictatorship. History proves that fact. An unarmed population is subjugated (Bolsheviks and Nazi's disarmed the public), an armed population is free.
So we live in a country where, unless I own a gun, I could be "subjugated?"
What if "they" have bigger guns?
flan
If "they" have bigger guns and are using the guns against the population, then you have supported my argument.
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I drink coffee so I don't kill you.
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Faith isn't something that keeps bad things from happening. Faith is what helps us get through bad things when they do happen.
This tired, old, false argument, again? It has long been established both legislatively and through the courts that the 2nd amendment gives individual citizens the right to arms apart from any militia.
This tired, old, false argument, again? It has long been established both legislatively and through the courts that the 2nd amendment gives individual citizens the right to arms apart from any militia.
I am well aware of subsequent decisions.
flan
You don't seem to be. If you are aware, then why bring up such nonsense?
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
This tired, old, false argument, again? It has long been established both legislatively and through the courts that the 2nd amendment gives individual citizens the right to arms apart from any militia.
I am well aware of subsequent decisions.
flan
You don't seem to be. If you are aware, then why bring up such nonsense?
Too many people forget the ORIGIN of the amendment.
This tired, old, false argument, again? It has long been established both legislatively and through the courts that the 2nd amendment gives individual citizens the right to arms apart from any militia.
I am well aware of subsequent decisions.
flan
You don't seem to be. If you are aware, then why bring up such nonsense?
Too many people forget the ORIGIN of the amendment.
flan
The origin pertains to today as much as it did then.
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I drink coffee so I don't kill you.
I quilt so I don't kill you.
Do you see a theme?
Faith isn't something that keeps bad things from happening. Faith is what helps us get through bad things when they do happen.
This tired, old, false argument, again? It has long been established both legislatively and through the courts that the 2nd amendment gives individual citizens the right to arms apart from any militia.
I am well aware of subsequent decisions.
flan
You don't seem to be. If you are aware, then why bring up such nonsense?
Too many people forget the ORIGIN of the amendment.
flan
You, among them. It was NEVER a question throughout our nations history that individuals had the right to arms until late in the 20th century.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
This tired, old, false argument, again? It has long been established both legislatively and through the courts that the 2nd amendment gives individual citizens the right to arms apart from any militia.
I am well aware of subsequent decisions.
flan
You don't seem to be. If you are aware, then why bring up such nonsense?
Too many people forget the ORIGIN of the amendment.
flan
You, among them. It was NEVER a question throughout our nations history that individuals had the right to arms until late in the 20th century.
Because we actually have laws and a police force, unlike the new country America WAS.
This tired, old, false argument, again? It has long been established both legislatively and through the courts that the 2nd amendment gives individual citizens the right to arms apart from any militia.
I am well aware of subsequent decisions.
flan
You don't seem to be. If you are aware, then why bring up such nonsense?
Too many people forget the ORIGIN of the amendment.
flan
You, among them. It was NEVER a question throughout our nations history that individuals had the right to arms until late in the 20th century.
Because we actually have laws and a police force, unlike the new country America WAS.
flan
Not all of us live in cities where you can call the police and they will be there in matter of mins. It takes 45 mins. Where I live.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
This tired, old, false argument, again? It has long been established both legislatively and through the courts that the 2nd amendment gives individual citizens the right to arms apart from any militia.
I am well aware of subsequent decisions.
flan
You don't seem to be. If you are aware, then why bring up such nonsense?
Too many people forget the ORIGIN of the amendment.
flan
You, among them. It was NEVER a question throughout our nations history that individuals had the right to arms until late in the 20th century.
Because we actually have laws and a police force, unlike the new country America WAS.
flan
So what? we had those things then, also, but are you going to throw out the first amendment, too?
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
This tired, old, false argument, again? It has long been established both legislatively and through the courts that the 2nd amendment gives individual citizens the right to arms apart from any militia.
I am well aware of subsequent decisions.
flan
You don't seem to be. If you are aware, then why bring up such nonsense?
Too many people forget the ORIGIN of the amendment.
flan
You, among them. It was NEVER a question throughout our nations history that individuals had the right to arms until late in the 20th century.
Because we actually have laws and a police force, unlike the new country America WAS.
flan
So what? we had those things then, also, but are you going to throw out the first amendment, too?
Really? The "wild West" had that name for a reason.
This tired, old, false argument, again? It has long been established both legislatively and through the courts that the 2nd amendment gives individual citizens the right to arms apart from any militia.
I am well aware of subsequent decisions.
flan
You don't seem to be. If you are aware, then why bring up such nonsense?
Too many people forget the ORIGIN of the amendment.
flan
You, among them. It was NEVER a question throughout our nations history that individuals had the right to arms until late in the 20th century.
Because we actually have laws and a police force, unlike the new country America WAS.
flan
So what? we had those things then, also, but are you going to throw out the first amendment, too?
Really? The "wild West" had that name for a reason.
Why would I throw out the First Amendment?
flan
First of all, you watch too much TV. Second, the "Wild West" such as it was didn't really happen until nearly a century after the nation was founded. Third, why do you want to get rid of any amendments? They are all equally important.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
This tired, old, false argument, again? It has long been established both legislatively and through the courts that the 2nd amendment gives individual citizens the right to arms apart from any militia.
I am well aware of subsequent decisions.
flan
You don't seem to be. If you are aware, then why bring up such nonsense?
Too many people forget the ORIGIN of the amendment.
flan
You, among them. It was NEVER a question throughout our nations history that individuals had the right to arms until late in the 20th century.
Because we actually have laws and a police force, unlike the new country America WAS.
flan
So what? we had those things then, also, but are you going to throw out the first amendment, too?
Really? The "wild West" had that name for a reason.
Why would I throw out the First Amendment?
flan
First of all, you watch too much TV. Second, the "Wild West" such as it was didn't really happen until nearly a century after the nation was founded. Third, why do you want to get rid of any amendments? They are all equally important.
I do know American history, husker. You stated that we had laws & a police force & I cited an exception.
And in other news, Obama is planning on visiting Roseberg, but they don't want him there. They say he is grandstanding (which he is) and he's using this for political purposes (which he is). I hope no one there meets with him.
Obama was here a couple of months ago and our governor and the mayor of the city he visited refused to meet with him. One would think he would get a clue.
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I personally have no respect for someone who leads by doing what THEY alone no matter what others (Congress US citizens) want. Just goes along like they are KING or whatever they deem themselves and I also hope NO one meets with him, let him run his mouth with no one there to listen. He seems to like to hear himself talk so let him.
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This tired, old, false argument, again? It has long been established both legislatively and through the courts that the 2nd amendment gives individual citizens the right to arms apart from any militia.
I am well aware of subsequent decisions.
flan
You don't seem to be. If you are aware, then why bring up such nonsense?
Too many people forget the ORIGIN of the amendment.
flan
You, among them. It was NEVER a question throughout our nations history that individuals had the right to arms until late in the 20th century.
Because we actually have laws and a police force, unlike the new country America WAS.
flan
So what? we had those things then, also, but are you going to throw out the first amendment, too?
Really? The "wild West" had that name for a reason.
Why would I throw out the First Amendment?
flan
First of all, you watch too much TV. Second, the "Wild West" such as it was didn't really happen until nearly a century after the nation was founded. Third, why do you want to get rid of any amendments? They are all equally important.
I do know American history, husker. You stated that we had laws & a police force & I cited an exception.
flan
You don't know history. Your "exception" isn't really an exception, and to the extent it was, it was not even conceived of when the amendment was written. If you actually knew sometching about history, you wouldn't be trying to make such a false argument.
-- Edited by huskerbb on Tuesday 6th of October 2015 12:17:14 PM
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
"We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions."
"We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions."
There is no way that someone who ends damn near every post with "..lol" deserves to be taken seriously. You might have semi-reasonable opinions, but that's so damn distracting. Why do you do that? Do you laugh out loud when you talk in real life too? Annoying.
There is no way to take someone seriously who hasn't even bothered put up an Avatar. I mean if you don't like her posting style, then I would guess you don't have to read it. At least with Avatars it allows me to quickly see who is posting and scroll on by if I so choose!
There is no way that someone who ends damn near every post with "..lol" deserves to be taken seriously. You might have semi-reasonable opinions, but that's so damn distracting. Why do you do that? Do you laugh out loud when you talk in real life too? Annoying.
flan signs her name every time. Do you think she does that in real life? You write ludicrous posts. Do you talk like that in real life?
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There is no way to take someone seriously who hasn't even bothered put up an Avatar. I mean if you don't like her posting style, then I would guess you don't have to read it. At least with Avatars it allows me to quickly see who is posting and scroll on by if I so choose!
There is no way to take someone seriously who hasn't even bothered put up an Avatar. I mean if you don't like her posting style, then I would guess you don't have to read it. At least with Avatars it allows me to quickly see who is posting and scroll on by if I so choose!
There is no way to take someone seriously who hasn't even bothered put up an Avatar. I mean if you don't like her posting style, then I would guess you don't have to read it. At least with Avatars it allows me to quickly see who is posting and scroll on by if I so choose!
Karl doesn't have one.
Burns doesn't have one.
Husker doesn't have one.
I'm folowing the trend.
To me, that is logical.
I do not have a problem with anyone not having an avatar. I don't understand why it would be a big deal either.
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I drink coffee so I don't kill you.
I quilt so I don't kill you.
Do you see a theme?
Faith isn't something that keeps bad things from happening. Faith is what helps us get through bad things when they do happen.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.