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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

RE: Knives Kill More People Each Year Than Rifles: Time For Knife Control?

MyNameIsJoe · Member

Thou shalt not kill. Not Thou shalt not kill except in cases of self defense, if someone is in your castle, if someone is taking your car radio, if you're the only one tempering the Middle East.

Either it's wrong or it isn't. I don't believe a fetus is a human being so abortion isn't an exception in my book. If we do include abortion, I would counter that it is an exceltion then.

MyNameIsJoe · Member

lilyofcourse wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Simply becoming legal doesn't make something moral.
So abortion is wrong even though it is legal?

No because I don't believe abortion is immoral.

Ohfour · Hooker

MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Thou shalt not kill. Not Thou shalt not kill except in cases of self defense, if someone is in your castle, if someone is taking your car radio, if you're the only one tempering the Middle East.

Either it's wrong or it isn't. I don't believe a fetus is a human being so abortion isn't an exception in my book. If we do include abortion, I would counter that it is an exceltion then.

Wrong again...this is getting boring....

It does not say thou shall not kill. It says thou shall not murder.

Totally different things...

MyNameIsJoe · Member

Really? Who decided to change that? I just checked my bible and it clearly says Thou shalt not kill.

Ohfour · Hooker

Looking at mine right now. It says murder.

Ohfour · Hooker

10but the seventh day is a sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 10but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. 10but the seventh day is a sabbath of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you. 10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 10but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. You must not do any work--you, your son or daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the foreigner who is within your gates.

11For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. 11"For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and made it holy. 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. 11For the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and everything in them in six days; then He rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and declared it holy.

12"Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you. 12“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the LORD your God is giving you. 12"Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be prolonged in the land which the LORD your God gives you. 12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 12Honor your father and your mother so that you may have a long life in the land that the LORD your God is giving you.

13"You shall not murder. 13“You shall not murder. 13"You shall not murder.

14"You shall not commit adultery. 14“You shall not commit adultery. 14"You shall not commit adultery.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Really? Who decided to change that? I just checked my bible and it clearly says Thou shalt not kill.

Oh, good heavens, you really have no knowlede of Biblical history or the English language, do you. The King James version used the word "kill", but even our language has changed since then. To actually know what it says, you need to study the original greek and Hebrew versions. There were two different words for kill and murder, just as there are now, and the original Hebrew says "Murder". They just keep trying to simplify the language of the Bible so those unable to truly study have a hope of understanding.

MyNameIsJoe · Member

Lawyerlady wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Really? Who decided to change that? I just checked my bible and it clearly says Thou shalt not kill.
Oh, good heavens, you really have no knowlede of Biblical history or the English language, do you. The King James version used the word "kill", but even our language has changed since then. To actually know what it says, you need to study the original greek and Hebrew versions. There were two different words for kill and murder, just as there are now, and the original Hebrew says "Murder". They just keep trying to simplify the language of the Bible so those unable to truly study have a hope of understanding.

You can doubt my theological intelligence but honey, you're wrong. You have a lot of damn nerve.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

MyNameIsJoe wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Simply becoming legal doesn't make something moral.
So abortion is wrong even though it is legal?
No because I don't believe abortion is immoral.

You sound just like Richard.

So killing an unborn baby is not wrong?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Really? Who decided to change that? I just checked my bible and it clearly says Thou shalt not kill.
Oh, good heavens, you really have no knowlede of Biblical history or the English language, do you. The King James version used the word "kill", but even our language has changed since then. To actually know what it says, you need to study the original greek and Hebrew versions. There were two different words for kill and murder, just as there are now, and the original Hebrew says "Murder". They just keep trying to simplify the language of the Bible so those unable to truly study have a hope of understanding.
You can doubt my theological intelligence but honey, you're wrong. You have a lot of damn nerve.

Well Bless your heart, aren't you just so adorable!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Ohfour wrote:

10but the seventh day is a sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 10but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. 10but the seventh day is a sabbath of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you. 10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 10but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. You must not do any work--you, your son or daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the foreigner who is within your gates.

11For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. 11"For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day and made it holy. 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. 11For the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and everything in them in six days; then He rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and declared it holy.

12"Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you. 12“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the LORD your God is giving you. 12"Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be prolonged in the land which the LORD your God gives you. 12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 12Honor your father and your mother so that you may have a long life in the land that the LORD your God is giving you.

13"You shall not murder. 13“You shall not murder. 13"You shall not murder.

14"You shall not commit adultery. 14“You shall not commit adultery. 14"You shall not commit adultery.

King James or New Living King James?

Ohfour · Hooker

MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Really? Who decided to change that? I just checked my bible and it clearly says Thou shalt not kill.
Oh, good heavens, you really have no knowlede of Biblical history or the English language, do you. The King James version used the word "kill", but even our language has changed since then. To actually know what it says, you need to study the original greek and Hebrew versions. There were two different words for kill and murder, just as there are now, and the original Hebrew says "Murder". They just keep trying to simplify the language of the Bible so those unable to truly study have a hope of understanding.
You can doubt my theological intelligence but honey, you're wrong. You have a lot of damn nerve.

Oh, there is no doubt at all.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Really? Who decided to change that? I just checked my bible and it clearly says Thou shalt not kill.
Oh, good heavens, you really have no knowlede of Biblical history or the English language, do you. The King James version used the word "kill", but even our language has changed since then. To actually know what it says, you need to study the original greek and Hebrew versions. There were two different words for kill and murder, just as there are now, and the original Hebrew says "Murder". They just keep trying to simplify the language of the Bible so those unable to truly study have a hope of understanding.
You can doubt my theological intelligence but honey, you're wrong. You have a lot of damn nerve.

Well Bless your heart, aren't you just so adorable!

Oh I see.

This is one of those who can't hold his own and must attempt to belittle.

Joe, your ignorance is practically tangible.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Really? Who decided to change that? I just checked my bible and it clearly says Thou shalt not kill.
Oh, good heavens, you really have no knowlede of Biblical history or the English language, do you. The King James version used the word "kill", but even our language has changed since then. To actually know what it says, you need to study the original greek and Hebrew versions. There were two different words for kill and murder, just as there are now, and the original Hebrew says "Murder". They just keep trying to simplify the language of the Bible so those unable to truly study have a hope of understanding.
You can doubt my theological intelligence but honey, you're wrong. You have a lot of damn nerve.

Well Bless your heart, aren't you just so adorable!
Oh I see.
This is one of those who can't hold his own and must attempt to belittle.
Joe, your ignorance is practically tangible.

Pot meet kettle...

flan

chef · Guru

MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Thou shalt not kill. Not Thou shalt not kill except in cases of self defense, if someone is in your castle, if someone is taking your car radio, if you're the only one tempering the Middle East.

Either it's wrong or it isn't. I don't believe a fetus is a human being so abortion isn't an exception in my book. If we do include abortion, I would counter that it is an exceltion then.

Then what is a fetus? An alien? A plant? A rock? An animal? Some inanimate creature despite having a heartbeat and respiring?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

chef wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Thou shalt not kill. Not Thou shalt not kill except in cases of self defense, if someone is in your castle, if someone is taking your car radio, if you're the only one tempering the Middle East.

Either it's wrong or it isn't. I don't believe a fetus is a human being so abortion isn't an exception in my book. If we do include abortion, I would counter that it is an exceltion then.
Then what is a fetus? An alien? A plant? A rock? An animal? Some inanimate creature despite having a heartbeat and respiring?

A fetus is a potential human being.

flan

ed11563 · Guru

chef wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Thou shalt not kill. Not Thou shalt not kill except in cases of self defense, if someone is in your castle, if someone is taking your car radio, if you're the only one tempering the Middle East.

Either it's wrong or it isn't. I don't believe a fetus is a human being so abortion isn't an exception in my book. If we do include abortion, I would counter that it is an exceltion then.
Then what is a fetus? An alien? A plant? A rock? An animal? Some inanimate creature despite having a heartbeat and respiring?

Just for clarity, a fetus is immersed in pee and does not breathe. So "respiring" is not a factor.

If you really want to classify it, it's a "parasite".

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Um no. A parasite destroys the host. Wow. That is pathetic but more proof of how liberals view children and human beings.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

A child is a potential adult. So why not kill them?

chef · Guru

flan327 wrote:
chef wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Thou shalt not kill. Not Thou shalt not kill except in cases of self defense, if someone is in your castle, if someone is taking your car radio, if you're the only one tempering the Middle East.

Either it's wrong or it isn't. I don't believe a fetus is a human being so abortion isn't an exception in my book. If we do include abortion, I would counter that it is an exceltion then.
Then what is a fetus? An alien? A plant? A rock? An animal? Some inanimate creature despite having a heartbeat and respiring?
A fetus is a potential human being.
flan

I wasn't asking you, Flan. I already know you refuse to acknowledge that a fetus is a baby. Unfortunately, Joe deleted so my question is moot.

There's no potential about it. A fetus is human before and after birth. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

Calling a fetus a potential human being implies that a fetus is not human until it is born so, since you responded, what IS a fetus if not human? Plant? Rock? Alien?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

ed11563 wrote:
chef wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Thou shalt not kill. Not Thou shalt not kill except in cases of self defense, if someone is in your castle, if someone is taking your car radio, if you're the only one tempering the Middle East.

Either it's wrong or it isn't. I don't believe a fetus is a human being so abortion isn't an exception in my book. If we do include abortion, I would counter that it is an exceltion then.
Then what is a fetus? An alien? A plant? A rock? An animal? Some inanimate creature despite having a heartbeat and respiring?
Just for clarity, a fetus is immersed in pee and does not breathe. So "respiring" is not a factor.
If you really want to classify it, it's a "parasite".

Just for clarity a fetus isn't immersed in pee. That is wrong. A fetus is immersed in amniotic fluid. And there is a helluva lot of difference between the two. Babies don't grow in the bladder. They grow in the womb. Or uterus if you prefer saying it that way.

chef · Guru

ed11563 wrote:
chef wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Thou shalt not kill. Not Thou shalt not kill except in cases of self defense, if someone is in your castle, if someone is taking your car radio, if you're the only one tempering the Middle East.

Either it's wrong or it isn't. I don't believe a fetus is a human being so abortion isn't an exception in my book. If we do include abortion, I would counter that it is an exceltion then.
Then what is a fetus? An alien? A plant? A rock? An animal? Some inanimate creature despite having a heartbeat and respiring?
Just for clarity, a fetus is immersed in pee and does not breathe. So "respiring" is not a factor.
If you really want to classify it, it's a "parasite".

Not all of the amniotic fluid is pee. And yes, fetuses DO respire. Respiring is what develops the lungs and readies them to function once outside the womb. It's called practice breathing and it happens towards the end of pregnancy. It's not the same as breathing outside of the womb but it is respiration.

chef · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
chef wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Thou shalt not kill. Not Thou shalt not kill except in cases of self defense, if someone is in your castle, if someone is taking your car radio, if you're the only one tempering the Middle East.

Either it's wrong or it isn't. I don't believe a fetus is a human being so abortion isn't an exception in my book. If we do include abortion, I would counter that it is an exceltion then.
Then what is a fetus? An alien? A plant? A rock? An animal? Some inanimate creature despite having a heartbeat and respiring?
Just for clarity, a fetus is immersed in pee and does not breathe. So "respiring" is not a factor.
If you really want to classify it, it's a "parasite".
Just for clarity a fetus isn't immersed in pee. That is wrong. A fetus is immersed in amniotic fluid. And there is a helluva lot of difference between the two. Babies don't grow in the bladder. They grow in the womb. Or uterus if you prefer saying it that way.

Yes.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

chef wrote:
flan327 wrote:
chef wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Thou shalt not kill. Not Thou shalt not kill except in cases of self defense, if someone is in your castle, if someone is taking your car radio, if you're the only one tempering the Middle East.

Either it's wrong or it isn't. I don't believe a fetus is a human being so abortion isn't an exception in my book. If we do include abortion, I would counter that it is an exceltion then.
Then what is a fetus? An alien? A plant? A rock? An animal? Some inanimate creature despite having a heartbeat and respiring?
A fetus is a potential human being.
flan
I wasn't asking you, Flan. I already know you refuse to acknowledge that a fetus is a baby. Unfortunately, Joe deleted so my question is moot.
There's no potential about it. A fetus is human before and after birth. To say otherwise is ridiculous.
Calling a fetus a potential human being implies that a fetus is not human until it is born so, since you responded, what IS a fetus if not human? Plant? Rock? Alien?

Well, EXCUSE me.

Can a 10-week old FETUS survive outside the womb? Of course not.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
chef wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Thou shalt not kill. Not Thou shalt not kill except in cases of self defense, if someone is in your castle, if someone is taking your car radio, if you're the only one tempering the Middle East.

Either it's wrong or it isn't. I don't believe a fetus is a human being so abortion isn't an exception in my book. If we do include abortion, I would counter that it is an exceltion then.
Then what is a fetus? An alien? A plant? A rock? An animal? Some inanimate creature despite having a heartbeat and respiring?
A fetus is a potential human being.
flan

Ok. Now I am just sure that I do not and will never have an opinion that matches anything in your world. How do you sleep at night? Very comfortably I'm sure as nothing that doesn't affect you personally is good or right. I just got a chill...

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
chef wrote:
flan327 wrote:
chef wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Thou shalt not kill. Not Thou shalt not kill except in cases of self defense, if someone is in your castle, if someone is taking your car radio, if you're the only one tempering the Middle East.

Either it's wrong or it isn't. I don't believe a fetus is a human being so abortion isn't an exception in my book. If we do include abortion, I would counter that it is an exceltion then.
Then what is a fetus? An alien? A plant? A rock? An animal? Some inanimate creature despite having a heartbeat and respiring?
A fetus is a potential human being.
flan
I wasn't asking you, Flan. I already know you refuse to acknowledge that a fetus is a baby. Unfortunately, Joe deleted so my question is moot.
There's no potential about it. A fetus is human before and after birth. To say otherwise is ridiculous.
Calling a fetus a potential human being implies that a fetus is not human until it is born so, since you responded, what IS a fetus if not human? Plant? Rock? Alien?
Well, EXCUSE me.
Can a 10-week old FETUS survive outside the womb? Of course not.
flan

Why should it have to? I'd better leave this thread because I might just throw up.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Wow! Dramatic much?!

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
chef wrote:
flan327 wrote:
chef wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Thou shalt not kill. Not Thou shalt not kill except in cases of self defense, if someone is in your castle, if someone is taking your car radio, if you're the only one tempering the Middle East.

Either it's wrong or it isn't. I don't believe a fetus is a human being so abortion isn't an exception in my book. If we do include abortion, I would counter that it is an exceltion then.
Then what is a fetus? An alien? A plant? A rock? An animal? Some inanimate creature despite having a heartbeat and respiring?
A fetus is a potential human being.
flan
I wasn't asking you, Flan. I already know you refuse to acknowledge that a fetus is a baby. Unfortunately, Joe deleted so my question is moot.
There's no potential about it. A fetus is human before and after birth. To say otherwise is ridiculous.
Calling a fetus a potential human being implies that a fetus is not human until it is born so, since you responded, what IS a fetus if not human? Plant? Rock? Alien?
Well, EXCUSE me.
Can a 10-week old FETUS survive outside the womb? Of course not.
flan

That's a Ridiculous argument. A fetus is perfectly viable in the environment of the womb. You arent very viable if we submerge you under water for 20 min.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Actually chef is right. Babies do respire in the womb. I've never used the word respire before and it certainly sounds odd but yes, they do. Amniotic fluid passes through their lungs when they are small. As they mature the fluid moves out and the respiratory system grows more "adult like" if you will. This is a huge reason preemie babies can't survive. Their lungs aren't developed enough.

As for the urine, there may be a small amount of the baby's urine in the amniotic fluid but not much. It is minimal. The baby's waste passes out of the umbilical cord and into the mother. Just as all the nutrients flow into the baby through it.

Some of you are very uniformed on fetal development.

chef · Guru

flan327 wrote:
chef wrote:
flan327 wrote:
chef wrote:
MyNameIsJoe wrote:
Thou shalt not kill. Not Thou shalt not kill except in cases of self defense, if someone is in your castle, if someone is taking your car radio, if you're the only one tempering the Middle East.

Either it's wrong or it isn't. I don't believe a fetus is a human being so abortion isn't an exception in my book. If we do include abortion, I would counter that it is an exceltion then.
Then what is a fetus? An alien? A plant? A rock? An animal? Some inanimate creature despite having a heartbeat and respiring?
A fetus is a potential human being.
flan
I wasn't asking you, Flan. I already know you refuse to acknowledge that a fetus is a baby. Unfortunately, Joe deleted so my question is moot.
There's no potential about it. A fetus is human before and after birth. To say otherwise is ridiculous.
Calling a fetus a potential human being implies that a fetus is not human until it is born so, since you responded, what IS a fetus if not human? Plant? Rock? Alien?
Well, EXCUSE me.
Can a 10-week old FETUS survive outside the womb? Of course not.
flan

Just because a 10 week old fetus can't survive outside the womb doesn't mean said fetus is not human.

Tinydancer · Guru

Well if you don't call it a human you can just kill it. Illogical I know but justifications are justifications after all.

WYSIWYG · Guru

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.

_____________________________

My personal take on this, but only from a strictly legal point of view: I believe the fact that the 14th Amendment starts out specifying "born or naturalized", covers that the unborn are not protected.

Just my humble opinion though. An opinion that could be completely wrong.

Tinydancer · Guru

Unborn? Really? Only unborn because they were killed before they were born. Justification for this is lame.

WYSIWYG · Guru

I'm not justifying anything. I was merely commenting on where it was in the 14th Amendment.

Tinydancer · Guru

Well the babies reside where their mothers do so do they have rights?

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Thursday 8th of October 2015 11:49:33 PM

chef · Guru

I'd like to know what I carried for 39 weeks and 2 days since it wasn't a human. Sure looked like a human on all those ultrasounds. I must've been seeing things.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Well the babies reside where their mothers do so do they have rights?
- Tinydancer

_______________________________

Once they are born, certainly (from a strictly legal perspective).

Renegade Time Lord · Am I A Good Man?

In regards to the original post, I do own knives and guns, and I have used them in various situations. That being said, there are beings who are no longer alive because of me. I have taken lives, and I have also suffered from several injuries caused by guns and knives. I do not owe anyone any explanations. Or as the T-shirt states: "Guns don't kill people, I kill people".

While my concealed carry license allows me to wear my gun (except at work, because we have a no weapons policy in our physical security handbook), I do not carry any of my specialized knives on me, because they are not street legal. They are, however, kept in strategic areas in my apartment, just in case.

Authorities and lawmakers can ban or outlaw guns or knives all they want, but that is not going to stop people from owning or using them, legally or illegally. Whether these people know how to use them or not or bought them "just in case" is another issue. In my state, I could walk into a store and buy a knife, no problem. As for a gun, it would require training or classes, a background check, and spending several thousand dollars just to get my hands on one.

Regardless of how one procures guns or knives, there is also the psychological aspect of actually using a weapon. Are you the type of person who hesitates, hedges, freezes, fidgets, or is not confident that you can react in a split second and use your weapons effectively? Are you on medication that interferes with being clear-headed and focused? Or are you the type of person who can react at the drop of a hat, no hesitation, and discharge your weapon before your opponent can discharge theirs? I feel that not everyone should own firearms, knives, or other weapons, because they will be more of a danger to themselves and others if they did. Thank you.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Renegade Time Lord wrote:

In regards to the original post, I do own knives and guns, and I have used them in various situations. That being said, there are beings who are no longer alive because of me. I have taken lives, and I have also suffered from several injuries caused by guns and knives. I do not owe anyone any explanations. Or as the T-shirt states: "Guns don't kill people, I kill people".
While my concealed carry license allows me to wear my gun (except at work, because we have a no weapons policy in our physical security handbook), I do not carry any of my specialized knives on me, because they are not street legal. They are, however, kept in strategic areas in my apartment, just in case.
Authorities and lawmakers can ban or outlaw guns or knives all they want, but that is not going to stop people from owning or using them, legally or illegally. Whether these people know how to use them or not or bought them "just in case" is another issue. In my state, I could walk into a store and buy a knife, no problem. As for a gun, it would require training or classes, a background check, and spending several thousand dollars just to get my hands on one.
Regardless of how one procures guns or knives, there is also the psychological aspect of actually using a weapon. Are you the type of person who hesitates, hedges, freezes, fidgets, or is not confident that you can react in a split second and use your weapons effectively? Are you on medication that interferes with being clear-headed and focused? Or are you the type of person who can react at the drop of a hat, no hesitation, and discharge your weapon before your opponent can discharge theirs? I feel that not everyone should own firearms, knives, or other weapons, because they will be more of a danger to themselves and others if they did. Thank you.

What does this even mean?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

chef wrote:
I'd like to know what I carried for 39 weeks and 2 days since it wasn't a human. Sure looked like a human on all those ultrasounds. I must've been seeing things.

And I gave birth to 2 boys & had a miscarriage the first time I was pregnant...

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Renegade Time Lord wrote:

In regards to the original post, I do own knives and guns, and I have used them in various situations. That being said, there are beings who are no longer alive because of me. I have taken lives, and I have also suffered from several injuries caused by guns and knives. I do not owe anyone any explanations. Or as the T-shirt states: "Guns don't kill people, I kill people".
While my concealed carry license allows me to wear my gun (except at work, because we have a no weapons policy in our physical security handbook), I do not carry any of my specialized knives on me, because they are not street legal. They are, however, kept in strategic areas in my apartment, just in case.
Authorities and lawmakers can ban or outlaw guns or knives all they want, but that is not going to stop people from owning or using them, legally or illegally. Whether these people know how to use them or not or bought them "just in case" is another issue. In my state, I could walk into a store and buy a knife, no problem. As for a gun, it would require training or classes, a background check, and spending several thousand dollars just to get my hands on one.
Regardless of how one procures guns or knives, there is also the psychological aspect of actually using a weapon. Are you the type of person who hesitates, hedges, freezes, fidgets, or is not confident that you can react in a split second and use your weapons effectively? Are you on medication that interferes with being clear-headed and focused? Or are you the type of person who can react at the drop of a hat, no hesitation, and discharge your weapon before your opponent can discharge theirs? I feel that not everyone should own firearms, knives, or other weapons, because they will be more of a danger to themselves and others if they did. Thank you.

What does this even mean?

I take it to mean a person on medication that interferes with their ability to make sound judgments, some depression or pain medications come to mind, they shouldn't have a weapon.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Yeah - if you are taking meds where one of the many side effects is "may cause suicidal thoughts or psychotic tendencies", it is best not to have weapons around. Although, you cannot really take knives away from people - they are a necessary tool in life.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

chef wrote:
I'd like to know what I carried for 39 weeks and 2 days since it wasn't a human. Sure looked like a human on all those ultrasounds. I must've been seeing things.

And I carried three to term, lost my baby very early. I mean I got a postive test result on Friday and my first OB appointment on the following Monday I was no longer pregnant.

But all four were wanted BABIES. Nothing less.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

You know.

People use words like zygote, fetus, clump of cells, parasite to make it ok in their heads and hearts. Because it doesn't sound as cold and hateful to say you support and advocate killing and throwing them away.

But to say you support killing and throwing away a baby, well, that just makes you sound cold. A monster really.

It's easier to reconcile with the former rather than the latter.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ooooh, today I'm a "monster."

Gotcha!

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

Taking things personally again flan?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Liberals use language to try to alter reality. If you want to be a girl, I will just call you a girl whether you are or not and POOF now you are a 'girl. We don't want to confront the reality of the heinous murder of American souls so we will just compare a human being to a 'blob of cells" or whatever.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Yep.

Call it a clump of cells and liken it to cancer and it's ok.

Call it a baby and that causes a person to actually face what they are supporting.

Tinydancer · Guru

Some don't even mind calling it a baby and then killing it anyway. Those are the ones I don't understand.