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OK, thought it would be fun to debate FOOD and all things cooking, the way we debate abortion and gun control. So, toss out some food "controversy" and let's get started.

Sooo, which makes for a better gravy? Flour or corn starch? What do you use and why? And, of course, any gravy pointers would be great! smilesmile

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OK, thought it would be fun to debate FOOD and all things cooking, the way we debate abortion and gun control. So, toss out some food "controversy" and let's get started.

Sooo, which makes for a better gravy? Flour or corn starch? What do you use and why? And, of course, any gravy pointers would be great! smilesmile


 Flour.  And you have to whisk the flour into a small amount of cold water prior to adding to the hot juices in order to avoid lumps.



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Oooh noooo! I prefer corn starch! You can use much less of it. I think it is a far better thickener.

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Oooh noooo! I prefer corn starch! You can use much less of it. I think it is a far better thickener.


 Nope.  I actually don't like to eat too much corn, anyway.  I prefer wheat.



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I usually do flour. I will add cornstarch if my gravy isn't getting as thick as I want it though.

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I prefer flour. But I always make a roux with it. Then add in the other ingredients. It also depends on what and how much I need. I have a gluten intolerant son so if I'm only using a tablespoon or two to thicken a pot of soup I can get away with flour. If I need it to be really thick I usually use cornstarch.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

OK, thought it would be fun to debate FOOD and all things cooking, the way we debate abortion and gun control. So, toss out some food "controversy" and let's get started.

Sooo, which makes for a better gravy? Flour or corn starch? What do you use and why? And, of course, any gravy pointers would be great! smilesmile


 Flour.  And you have to whisk the flour into a small amount of cold water prior to adding to the hot juices in order to avoid lumps.


I use equal parts flour and softened butter blended together to add to the hot liquid for my gravy.  Never used water.  



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Mmmm.....butter....

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

OK, thought it would be fun to debate FOOD and all things cooking, the way we debate abortion and gun control. So, toss out some food "controversy" and let's get started.

Sooo, which makes for a better gravy? Flour or corn starch? What do you use and why? And, of course, any gravy pointers would be great! smilesmile


 Flour.  And you have to whisk the flour into a small amount of cold water prior to adding to the hot juices in order to avoid lumps.


I use equal parts flour and softened butter blended together to add to the hot liquid for my gravy.  Never used water.  


 Melted butter mixed with flour is called a roux.  I had no idea that what I'd been making for so long had an actual name.



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Mmmm.....butter....


 A new study just came out that said that fat is not bad for you.  That whole milk, butter, and bacon is no longer the bad guy.  Which is nice because I always use the real stuff.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

OK, thought it would be fun to debate FOOD and all things cooking, the way we debate abortion and gun control. So, toss out some food "controversy" and let's get started.

Sooo, which makes for a better gravy? Flour or corn starch? What do you use and why? And, of course, any gravy pointers would be great! smilesmile


 Flour.  And you have to whisk the flour into a small amount of cold water prior to adding to the hot juices in order to avoid lumps.


I use equal parts flour and softened butter blended together to add to the hot liquid for my gravy.  Never used water.  


 Melted butter mixed with flour is called a roux.  I had no idea that what I'd been making for so long had an actual name.


Yeah, I know.  I saw your post after I posted mine.  I was going to post that originally... but I was going for simple terminology.  lol! aww



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I do what msrock does. But at times, if I don't want to be bothered to make the roux, I'll take a little bowl of chicken stock (or whatever liquid I'm using) and dissolve a tablespoon or two of cornstarch and add that to the sauce. I've also tried tapioca, but that doesn't seem to work as well for me. I have no experience with arrowroot.

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Mmmm.....butter....


 A new study just came out that said that fat is not bad for you.  That whole milk, butter, and bacon is no longer the bad guy.  Which is nice because I always use the real stuff.


Me too. 



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I do have a secret ingredient for my gravy when I make a pot roast. I add a tablespoon (or so to taste) of prepared horseradish at the end and it gives it an added depth and a little zip. So........... now you all know. lol.

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Well, gravy isnt gravy unless it has giblets in it...just sayin...

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Well, gravy isnt gravy unless it has giblets in it...just sayin...


Oh, Yuck!

Nope, you can have all the giblets, my pretty!

I won't touch them with a ten foot pole!wink 



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Well, gravy isnt gravy unless it has giblets in it...just sayin...


Oh, Yuck!

Nope, you can have all the giblets, my pretty!

I won't touch them with a ten foot pole!wink 


 I agree!



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 You beat me to it!!  But mine is in a jar!



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 You beat me to it!!  But mine is in a jar!


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 



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What kind of gravy? White or brown?

And there is chocolate gravy.

Oh and don't forget cornmeal gravy.

And I love giblet gravy over dressing.

So many gravies, so little time.



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 You beat me to it!!  But mine is in a jar!


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 


 Or the dry mix you just add water to.

 



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 Of beer!



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I do have a secret ingredient for my gravy when I make a pot roast. I add a tablespoon (or so to taste) of prepared horseradish at the end and it gives it an added depth and a little zip. So........... now you all know. lol.







I love horseradish. Just bought some today. There is some locally made it and it is sooo delicious. Not to hot like some of them.

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I do have a secret ingredient for my gravy when I make a pot roast. I add a tablespoon (or so to taste) of prepared horseradish at the end and it gives it an added depth and a little zip. So........... now you all know. lol.



 





I love horseradish. Just bought some today. There is some locally made it and it is sooo delicious. Not to hot like some of them.


I do too.  I use it in my potato salad and coleslaw too.  I always get compliments on those, but no one can figure out what my secret is.  lol.  I will not eat a hard boiled egg without horseradish.   



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 Of beer!


I await one!  This day stinks. 



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Well, gravy isnt gravy unless it has giblets in it...just sayin...


 My giblets go in my stuffing, not my gravy.



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Well, gravy isnt gravy unless it has giblets in it...just sayin...


 My giblets go in my stuffing, not my gravy.


Mine too.   



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msrock wrote:
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Well, gravy isnt gravy unless it has giblets in it...just sayin...


 My giblets go in my stuffing, not my gravy.


Mine too.   


Mine go in the trash can!wink 



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Fort Worth Mom wrote:
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Well, gravy isnt gravy unless it has giblets in it...just sayin...


 My giblets go in my stuffing, not my gravy.


Mine too.   


Mine go in the trash can!wink 


 That is such a waste.



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Well, gravy isnt gravy unless it has giblets in it...just sayin...


 My giblets go in my stuffing, not my gravy.


Mine too.   


Mine go in the trash can!wink 


You could always cook them for your kitties.  I do that if I don't use them.   



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Team Mom on giblets!

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Bet very few here have had cracklin bread.

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Fort Worth Mom wrote:
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Well, gravy isnt gravy unless it has giblets in it...just sayin...


 My giblets go in my stuffing, not my gravy.


Mine too.   


Mine go in the trash can!wink 


 Mine go to my dogs.



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Anyone here tried spotted dick?

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Not me.

English food is not my bag.

And, I'm not a fan of dried fruit baked into anything.  no



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It wasn't bad, actually. But I don't mind dried fruit.

Making soup now and started with a roux. I thought of y'all.

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 I'm married to a Brit.  Of course.  Bread pudding is a normal dessert for us.



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DH was disgusted by the thought of giblet gravy. Was. He likes my giblet gravy.

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I made a roux too tonight. It's funny because for the longest time I thought roux was some kind of fancy soup I'd never had.

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Viva LA France. Now we know roux , mire pioux , etc.

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If I'm using pan drippings for gravy, I'll usually make a roux with all-purpose flour, then add beef/chicken stock (home made!)

If I need a clearer gravy, I'll use cornstarch and stock.



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Breakfast gravy here is pan drippings, flour and either milk or water. Season to taste.

It gets nice and thick.




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What is a spotted dick?

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Spotted dick is a cylindrical pudding popular in Britain, made with suet and dried fruit (usually currants and/or raisins) and often served with custard.

It is made from a flat sheet of suet pastry sprinkled with dried fruit, which is then rolled up into a circular pudding.

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Thank you, I've never heard of it. It sounds interesting.

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British food. It's not bad.

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British food can be extraordinary! I had the BEST leg of lamb at the Grosvenor Hotel back in '64, and my only regret is that I did not make a note of the red wine that the Wine Steward suggested. It was mellow, non-aggressive, aromatic, and the standard to which I compare all red wines.

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Momala, my FIL just loves bread pudding. Loves it. I make it for him sometimes. We had all English dishes at our wedding. It was fun. We served the adults Beef Wellington and the kids fish and chips. And of course, peas with slivered almonds in a butter lemon sauce. It was nice. A lot of the adults ate fish and chips. But we were fine with that. We had extra food because some people didn't show up at our wedding. I'm working on billing them now!

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