TOTALLY GEEKED!

How confusing for the boy, IMO. But my boys would love it if I buy that soup. And if it's a way to get soup down them when I get a cold, I'll imitate Darth Vader.

I wish food would quit being political. I just want to eat my food and not have to have a message shoved down my throat. And that goes for any message. I'm really just tired of everywhere you go someone has to use their food to make a point.

What about single-parent families? Kids being raised by grandparents?

And, honestly, more kids are fine with it than adults.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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 Of course it's confusing. 

Johnny has two dads. No mom. It's confusing to every child that comes into contact with them.

It is so wrong to hurt a child's psyche like this.

The mental health professionals are going to be inundated with kids who grew up in these twisted homes.

 

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I disagree, I think most kids just wouldn't care.

Two dads is WAY better then having a single Mom, and six siblings from 6 different "baby-daddies" who never come around. 

 

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 Of course the nuclear family is best.

But even a single parent whose kids have both a mom and a dad figure is better than not having one of them. 

 

Sorry. You want to talk morals, yes, they are important. 

 

But "do I have a mom"  is hard to answer when they don't and never did.

 

Yeah. Let's raise a kid in Gomorrah.

Has to be better than the ghetto.

It's really about money and it DOES make sense. No, money doesn't make you a good or bad parent. But if you have a decent income you have things like more time to spend with your kids. If you are working two jobs to make ends meet it's just plain harder. And a majority of single parents do not receive child support. It's really actually easy to understand. In a two parent home many times one parent can afford to stay home with the children. Also, many kids of single parents just can't afford to be in extracurricular activities like sports, dance, or scouts. Single parents, not all but many, can't afford the time it takes or the money involved. It's really just basic common sense. And yes, there are exceptions to the rule. IKWTDS is a shining example of that. She went to college, got a degree, got a good job, and can afford to take her daughter to things. Though she is often harried she makes sure her daughter is involved. But then she's not working two jobs. And many parents who do receive child support it's almost a joke. The national average of child support for one child is $480/month. I realize that's an average but for every person over that amount there's one under it. Money does play a big part in parenting.

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Yeah. Let's raise a kid in Gomorrah.

Has to be better than the ghetto.

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Yes, the odds of reaching adulthood alive are much better. 

 

But the majority of kids raised in same sex relationships are adopted. If it is a choice between a foster home or being aborted or being adopted by a loving gay couple, I say it is a clear choice.

A kid that age can't use a spoon? Talk about helicopters.

Just a lot of bellowing, like with the cheerio's commercial with the inter-racial couple.

I wasn't speaking about here so much, although lily was kind of going on about the poor child's psyche being damaged and raising children in Gomorrah, so much as on UTube/Internet in general. Like with the Cheerio commercials, people made such a big flap about the inter-racial couple....

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A kid that age can't use a spoon? Talk about helicopters.

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My mother told me many, many times that 

when I was 6 months old,

and my brother was 24 months,

she was feeding him (as usual) and I got tired of waiting,

so I picked up my spoon and fed myself.

 

So yes, a 6 month old can use a spoon.

 

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Yeah. Let's raise a kid in Gomorrah.

Has to be better than the ghetto.

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 I LOATH the use of Sodom and Gomorrah as an example of God's hatred of homosexuality. Because in the end, Lot had no problem offering up his daughter to be RAPED in order to spare the Angels from being RAPED (rape is an act of violence and power, not one of sex).  

I refuse to use he subjugation and dehumanization of women as an example of why another action is wrong.  

 

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Good gosh, God saved Lots daughters from rape. It wasn't God who offered up the women. Where do you get this idea from anyway? Why didn't you blame Lot for offering up his daughters?

And, yes, Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for their acts of ungodliness.  Sexual immorality being the primary reason as well as their refusal to turn back to God.

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But the majority of kids raised in same sex relationships are adopted. If it is a choice between a foster home or being aborted or being adopted by a loving gay couple, I say it is a clear choice.

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 Nope. A child should not be raised in that kind of home. It is a den of sin. No way a child can develop any kind of moral compass in a home where dad is sleeping with dad and what about mom, oh mom doesn't exist, but how did o get here, oh that's right, magic.

You will never convince me that a gay home is good for anyone, especially a kid.

 

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I wasn't speaking about here so much, although lily was kind of going on about the poor child's psyche being damaged and raising children in Gomorrah, so much as on UTube/Internet in general. Like with the Cheerio commercials, people made such a big flap about the inter-racial couple....

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 Interracial relationships are not ideal but not for the same reasons.

I don't see a problem with it. There really isn't anything in the Bible against it. 

I do think about the consequences for them, the ones involved as a whole. Of course now it isn't as big a deal as it use to be. 

I've been in interracial relationships. 

When something is clearly defined as an abomination in the Bible, well that's a line that should not be crossed.

And should be repented and never repeated.

 

VERY far...but it makes Lily happy to think it's tomorrow...

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Wow! I managed to raise TWO boys into capable men...and I do NOT have a penis.

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I agree with Lily on this. Kids will want to know where they come from. They will ask about their mom/dad. "You're adopted" just doesn't cut it when your child wants to know why Johnny has a mom and he doesn't. You can love that child deeply but love doesn't replace the want for a mom that some kids have. Same thing with boys that have lesbian mothers. Nothing replaces a daily example of what it means to be a man in their lives. Women, whether they like it or not, are not men and never will be. Women cannot impart the meaning of being a man like a man can. I'm thankful I grew up in a home with a mom and a dad. I'm thankful my son will grow up in a home with a mom and a dad.

I also agree with NJN. I'm tired of food being politicized. Just air the commercial and be done with it. I'm also tired of food being sexualized but that's a whole other issue.

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 You are way over thinking this. There are two lesion couples in town, one with little kids, one with kids older than me. It took my mother thirty seconds to explain it to me as a five year old.

My SS once told someone he had two moms.

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You are, though.
A gender role model is all fine and well, but not only can a child get that from outside the parental unit easily enough, I do not think it is nearly as critical as a lot of people think. A little girl raised with two dads may not have a mother figure, but as long as she is loved and cherished and has a dad that will braid her hair and occasionally play tea with her, she will not care. .
A boy with two moms may not have the dad figure, but if one mom takes the time to play baseball with him and show him how to change a tire, will he care?
The kids older than me, in their thirties now, are both happily married with kids of their own. And the guy is a mechanic. Th ey do not seem to have turned out that bad.
Bottom line: with more dad's choosing to be the SAHP, genDer roles are becoming less and less ridgid, and I think they will become more fluid as time goes on. Look at how things have changed in the last fifty years.

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 You only say I'm overthinking it because you don't have the same life experiences that I do. You also fundamentally disagree with me on issues such as this because of your personal views.

The bolded: You can't say definitively that a child will or won't care. You have no idea if that hypothetical little girl longs for a mother in her life. A mother doing stuff with her isn't the same as a father doing stuff with his son. Likewise for mother-daughter vs father-daughter time. It just isn't the same. The issue isn't love. It's about a bond that can't be replaced no matter how much you wish it so. Also, not many children will feel comfortable telling their parents how much they wish they had a mom/dad if they indeed feel that way. If they feel that way, they may not even be able to discern that the "something missing" is the lack of a mother/father.

chef:

Your avatar needs attention.

flan

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chef:

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 What's wrong with it?

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chef:

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 What's wrong with it?

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It's a great photo, but it shows a bit blurry on my laptop. I'm not explaining myself very well, I know.

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flan327 wrote:

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chef wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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chef:

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 What's wrong with it?

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It's a great photo, but it shows a bit blurry on my laptop. I'm not explaining myself very well, I know.

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 I know what you mean. I see the same thing. I don't know why it uploaded like that but I'm too lazy to fix it

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 And in the thread in the Break Room, it's fine!

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