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That is a myth. At the time of the writing of the declaration, they were nearly all members of that church.
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No, I just want people to stop trying to convert me to Christianity, and I want people to stop spending my tax dollars to promote their religion.
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And takes away the need to have a go between.
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What that means is a person doesn't need a priest to make sacrifices for them anymore.

A person doesn't go to a man in a box and tell them how they have sinned.

You pray in Jesus' name but you are praying to God.


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Jesus is God.

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Should all us Christians turn a blind eye towards Iran and their development of nukes? Should all us Christians cut off military support for Israel? Is that your goal, ed?


No, I just want people to stop trying to convert me to Christianity, and I want people to stop spending my tax dollars to promote their religion. 

 



What tax dollars? You have curious choose to neglect that. Sure.

But for the rest, wah, wah, wah. I have Mormons and JW's knocking on my door. I have the DNC calling me and asking for money, blah, blah. I don't know how you manage to walk a day through life if you can't handle any differences of opinions or approaches to life without pulling out the Victim Card. evileye

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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huskerbb wrote:

Should all us Christians turn a blind eye towards Iran and their development of nukes? Should all us Christians cut off military support for Israel? Is that your goal, ed?


No, I just want people to stop trying to convert me to Christianity, and I want people to stop spending my tax dollars to promote their religion. 

 



 

What tax dollars? You have curious choose to neglect that. Sure.

But for the rest, wah, wah, wah. I have Mormons and JW's knocking on my door. I have the DNC calling me and asking for money, blah, blah. I don't know how you manage to walk a day through life if you can't handle any differences of opinions or approaches to life without pulling out the Victim Card. evileye


Anything done in a public school is taxpayer supported.

 

 

 



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OK, soooo what specifically are you beitching about?

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My kids are getting "climate change" bullschit rammed down their throats. And, a horseschit pile of liberal steaming dung that I have to correct on a daily basis.

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So you don't want your kids knowing the truth? Well, that's your decision.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

My kids are getting "climate change" bullschit rammed down their throats. And, a horseschit pile of liberal steaming dung that I have to correct on a daily basis.


 Yep.

It's ridiculous the crap being pushed on school kids these days.



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Oh, boo hoo...Who's playing the victim card now?

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flan327 wrote:

So you don't want your kids knowing the truth? Well, that's your decision.

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 Truth is obviously very subjective.



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flan327 wrote:

So you don't want your kids knowing the truth? Well, that's your decision.

flan


 You dont want your kids knowing the truth.



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That is a myth. At the time of the writing of the declaration, they were nearly all members of that church.
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 It's not an opinion.  It is A verifiable fact.  I suggest you do some reading on the founding fathers.  I have a book at home I can recommend.  



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What that means is a person doesn't need a priest to make sacrifices for them anymore.

A person doesn't go to a man in a box and tell them how they have sinned.

You pray in Jesus' name but you are praying to God.


 ???  Jesus IS God.  



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huskerbb wrote:
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So you don't want your kids knowing the truth? Well, that's your decision.

flan


 You dont want your kids knowing the truth.


 Which "truth" would that be, sir?

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Yes. Jesus is God.

Part of the Trinity.

So who was Jesus talking to when He was in the garden asking God to let the cup pass Him?


Who was He talking to when He was on the cross asking His Father to forgive them of their sins?

Yes. They are three in one. But they are three.



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flan327 wrote:

So you don't want your kids knowing the truth? Well, that's your decision.


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My kids do know the truth. I have taught them to discern reality from phony baloney politically driven agendas.

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We quit Girl Scouts because all they did was ram that bullschit down our gullets. We joined to camp, make crafts, and learn about good citizenship. Not to have the LIberal Left Phony Baloney Crisis of the Month Disguised as an Opportunity to Indoctrinate Children Club.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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So you don't want your kids knowing the truth? Well, that's your decision.


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My kids do know the truth. I have taught them to discern reality from phony baloney politically driven agendas.


 Frankly, it depends on the issue.

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flan327 wrote:

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So you don't want your kids knowing the truth? Well, that's your decision.


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My kids do know the truth. I have taught them to discern reality from phony baloney politically driven agendas.


 Frankly, it depends on the issue.

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No. Frankly, it depends on actual TRUTH. Something Libs seem to spin and try to alter as they go.

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And Conservatives ignore proof...

Happy now?

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And Conservatives ignore proof...


Happy now?


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What proof would that be flan?

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We can prove that Bruce Jenner is not a woman. But, the Left wants to pretend he is.

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If anyone is AntiScience it is the LIberal left.

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Bruce Jenner is such a non-issue.

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No. It's just evidence of the Fantasy Land that the Left Wing lives in.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

If anyone is AntiScience it is the LIberal left.


 Got those blinders on, I see!

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Yes. Jesus is God.

Part of the Trinity.

So who was Jesus talking to when He was in the garden asking God to let the cup pass Him?


Who was He talking to when He was on the cross asking His Father to forgive them of their sins?

Yes. They are three in one. But they are three.


 Jesus was praying to his father.  We can do that, but when we pray to God, we are praying to Jesus.



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huskerbb wrote:
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Yes. Jesus is God.

Part of the Trinity.

So who was Jesus talking to when He was in the garden asking God to let the cup pass Him?


Who was He talking to when He was on the cross asking His Father to forgive them of their sins?

Yes. They are three in one. But they are three.


 Jesus was praying to his father.  We can do that, but when we pray to God, we are praying to Jesus.


 Yes. 

And no.

I'm not going to get into an argument over this.

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Ghost.

Three in one.

And each distinctly talked about in the Bible.

Three in one. 



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You already are.

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No.

I'm stating facts.

That isn't arguing.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

No.

I'm stating facts.

That isn't arguing.


 The fact is--Christians pray to Jesus.  Sometimes by name, but certainly as part of God.



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huskerbb wrote:

You already are.


 Duh...

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huskerbb wrote:
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No.

I'm stating facts.

That isn't arguing.


 The fact is--Christians pray to Jesus.  Sometimes by name, but certainly as part of God.


 Well. 

Ricky Bobby prayed to Baby Jesus. 

There is that.



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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No.

I'm stating facts.

That isn't arguing.


 The fact is--Christians pray to Jesus.  Sometimes by name, but certainly as part of God.


 Well. 

Ricky Bobby prayed to Baby Jesus. 

There is that.


 As do all Christians who pray to God.



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No.

They pray to God, in Jesus' name.



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lilyofcourse wrote:

No.

They pray to God, in Jesus' name.


 Not always.  Plus, prayers to God are prayers to Jesus.  Jesus IS God.



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flan327 wrote:

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If anyone is AntiScience it is the LIberal left.


 Got those blinders on, I see!

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Am I the one running around calling a man with a penis a girl? Um no. The Left lives in the world of fantasy.

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www.bible.ca/ntx-praying-to-Jesus.htm

Gives the Christian understanding of this topic.

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I think Lilly is saying that Jesus taught us to pray. And, Jesus taught us to pray to Our Father.

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I think the Trinity is one of the mysteries of God and His ways are higher than our ways. Yes, one God. Monotheistic. But, three in one.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

I think the Trinity is one of the mysteries of God and His ways are higher than our ways. Yes, one God. Monotheistic. But, three in one.


 Yes. Thank you.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

I think Lilly is saying that Jesus taught us to pray. And, Jesus taught us to pray to Our Father.


 Absolutely we are to pray that prayer--but it is far from the only example of prayer used in the Bible or Christianity.



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True but they prayed to the Father did they not? They didn't pray to the Holy Spirit either. Personally, I don't think it matters, but I understand the distinction that Lilly is trying to make.

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True but they prayed to the Father did they not? They didn't pray to the Holy Spirit either. Personally, I don't think it matters, but I understand the distinction that Lilly is trying to make.


 Not necessarily--other than in the same way a prayer to God is a prayer to the trinity in its entirety.  The Bible is replete with examples of prayers to Jesus.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

If anyone is AntiScience it is the LIberal left.


 Got those blinders on, I see!

flan



 



Am I the one running around calling a man with a penis a girl? Um no. The Left lives in the world of fantasy.


 You don't know anything about "the Left."

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flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

If anyone is AntiScience it is the LIberal left.


 Got those blinders on, I see!

flan



 



Am I the one running around calling a man with a penis a girl? Um no. The Left lives in the world of fantasy.


 You don't know anything about "the Left."

flan


I do.  I was one.  And I'm still friends with many.  LGS is spot on... 



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Oh, ok, lol. I am living under their idiotic polices with the laws and stupidity by which they have managed to infiltrate America.

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