Their house, their decision no matter what husker thinks. The son made his bed now he can lie on it.
They made it as much, or more so, than he did. If it's their house, their rules now, it was before, too, so they could have made better decisions then so as not to create this mess. If they would have said no then, none of them would be in this mess. They were the rule makers, they created this.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Their house, their decision no matter what husker thinks. The son made his bed now he can lie on it.
They made it as much, or more so, than he did. If it's their house, their rules now, it was before, too, so they could have made better decisions then so as not to create this mess. If they would have said no then, none of them would be in this mess. They were the rule makers, they created this.
They took in a teenage girl that needed help. It was a very nice thing to do. The son doesn't just get to decide now what his parents feel about this girl or when they can see her or have her over. He's 22 - he can deal with it until college is over for both of them.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Did he cheat on her? Seems like he went to college and decided he wanted to be free to date. That's what young adults do. The parents never should have treated her like a possible DIL. They were teens. This is the parents job to deal with this. Their son has a right to break up with his HS girlfriend and date someone else......and not be stuck with his Ex on every holiday. I agree with husker.
Yes. He broke up with her AFTER getting involved with another girl. That's cheating. This girl doesn't deserve to be turned out from their home because of his wrong-doing.
"our son has broken up with Jane after getting involved with another girl at their college."
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
And it never said in the OP that he and the girl were having sex in their home. Just that they were dating. Dating doesn't ALWAYS equal sex.
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Besides - this is a teaching moment, which he obviously needs badly. When you make commitments to people, you don't just break them because you feel like it. No, that doesn't mean I'm saying he had to stay with her, but the fact that he would even ASK his parents to turn her out shows him to be a first class jerk.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
You know what? The parents brought her into their house because he wanted them to - I'm sure it wasn't something they were jumping up and down about at the time. They had to deal with that. So now, he has to deal with this. Payback is a bitch and consequences suck. But that's life.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
You know what? The parents brought her into their house because he wanted them to - I'm sure it wasn't something they were jumping up and down about at the time. They had to deal with that. So now, he has to deal with this. Payback is a bitch and consequences suck. But that's life.
You can't have it both ways. If he was the rule maker then, then why not now? If it's their house their rules now? Why not then?
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Yes they created this so now they are doing what they should. You can't have it both ways husker.
No, they aren't.
What would you do? Put her on the street?
She's at college--not on the street.
What about breaks? Where is she supposed to go?
She can stay at college. Many students who can't go home for various reasons do so.
That's just great, husker. Make her lose a 2nd family, and have no one to spend holidays with. That is horrible. Just mean and fvcking horrible. Attitudes like this make me weep for humanity. People are so fvcking selfish.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
You know what? The parents brought her into their house because he wanted them to - I'm sure it wasn't something they were jumping up and down about at the time. They had to deal with that. So now, he has to deal with this. Payback is a bitch and consequences suck. But that's life.
You can't have it both ways. If he was the rule maker then, then why not now? If it's their house their rules now? Why not then?
Yes, I can. They are the fvcking parents and it is their house. Their son doesn't make the damn rules, and it's about damn time they realized it. They raised a selfish ass and it's about time they realized it.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Yes they created this so now they are doing what they should. You can't have it both ways husker.
No, they aren't.
What would you do? Put her on the street?
She's at college--not on the street.
What about breaks? Where is she supposed to go?
She can stay at college. Many students who can't go home for various reasons do so.
That's just great, husker. Make her lose a 2nd family, and have no one to spend holidays with. That is horrible. Just mean and fvcking horrible. Attitudes like this make me weep for humanity. People are so fvcking selfish.
That's what you want him to have to do--and its his family, not hers.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
You know what? The parents brought her into their house because he wanted them to - I'm sure it wasn't something they were jumping up and down about at the time. They had to deal with that. So now, he has to deal with this. Payback is a bitch and consequences suck. But that's life.
You can't have it both ways. If he was the rule maker then, then why not now? If it's their house their rules now? Why not then?
Yes, I can. They are the fvcking parents and it is their house. Their son doesn't make the damn rules, and it's about damn time they realized it. They raised a selfish ass and it's about time they realized it.
Then why wasn't it "their house" before? The fact is, it was, and this is much more their mess.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Yes they created this so now they are doing what they should. You can't have it both ways husker.
No, they aren't.
What would you do? Put her on the street?
She's at college--not on the street.
What about breaks? Where is she supposed to go?
She can stay at college. Many students who can't go home for various reasons do so.
That's just great, husker. Make her lose a 2nd family, and have no one to spend holidays with. That is horrible. Just mean and fvcking horrible. Attitudes like this make me weep for humanity. People are so fvcking selfish.
That's what you want him to have to do--and its his family, not hers.
No. He can suck it up and deal with her presense. Adults do that. Just like parents have to deal with each other after a divorce for the kids sake, these two are going to have to deal with each other for the parents's sake. People spend all sorts of holidays together with people they don't like for the sake of "family".
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
You know what? The parents brought her into their house because he wanted them to - I'm sure it wasn't something they were jumping up and down about at the time. They had to deal with that. So now, he has to deal with this. Payback is a bitch and consequences suck. But that's life.
You can't have it both ways. If he was the rule maker then, then why not now? If it's their house their rules now? Why not then?
Yes, I can. They are the fvcking parents and it is their house. Their son doesn't make the damn rules, and it's about damn time they realized it. They raised a selfish ass and it's about time they realized it.
Then why wasn't it "their house" before? The fact is, it was, and this is much more their mess.
So what? That made that decision then, they can make this one now.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Yes they created this so now they are doing what they should. You can't have it both ways husker.
No, they aren't.
What would you do? Put her on the street?
She's at college--not on the street.
What about breaks? Where is she supposed to go?
She can stay at college. Many students who can't go home for various reasons do so.
That's just great, husker. Make her lose a 2nd family, and have no one to spend holidays with. That is horrible. Just mean and fvcking horrible. Attitudes like this make me weep for humanity. People are so fvcking selfish.
That's what you want him to have to do--and its his family, not hers.
No. He can suck it up and deal with her presense. Adults do that. Just like parents have to deal with each other after a divorce for the kids sake, these two are going to have to deal with each other for the parents's sake. People spend all sorts of holidays together with people they don't like for the sake of "family".
Whatever. I highly doubt she is excited to spend the holidays with the ex who broke her heart. If they can deal with it, then she can deal with him bringing around another girl.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
You know what? The parents brought her into their house because he wanted them to - I'm sure it wasn't something they were jumping up and down about at the time. They had to deal with that. So now, he has to deal with this. Payback is a bitch and consequences suck. But that's life.
You can't have it both ways. If he was the rule maker then, then why not now? If it's their house their rules now? Why not then?
Yes, I can. They are the fvcking parents and it is their house. Their son doesn't make the damn rules, and it's about damn time they realized it. They raised a selfish ass and it's about time they realized it.
Then why wasn't it "their house" before? The fact is, it was, and this is much more their mess.
So what? That made that decision then, they can make this one now.
Then they can be wrong twice. Awesome.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Whatever. I highly doubt she is excited to spend the holidays with the ex who broke her heart. If they can deal with it, then she can deal with him bringing around another girl.
It is the parents' house. They do not have to invite his girlfriends for the holidays. They can meet her by going out to dinner if its that important, or on a weekend visit when the girl isn't home.
It's really NOT that difficult.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Yes they created this so now they are doing what they should. You can't have it both ways husker.
No, they aren't.
What would you do? Put her on the street?
She's at college--not on the street.
What about breaks? Where is she supposed to go?
She can stay at college. Many students who can't go home for various reasons do so.
That's just great, husker. Make her lose a 2nd family, and have no one to spend holidays with. That is horrible. Just mean and fvcking horrible. Attitudes like this make me weep for humanity. People are so fvcking selfish.
That's what you want him to have to do--and its his family, not hers.
Great solution if you're a heartless bastard.
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Yes they created this so now they are doing what they should. You can't have it both ways husker.
No, they aren't.
What would you do? Put her on the street?
She's at college--not on the street.
What about breaks? Where is she supposed to go?
She can stay at college. Many students who can't go home for various reasons do so.
Depends on the college. A lot of the ones around here close the dorms when the school is closed.
Yep. We weren't allowed to stay in our dorms at break. We had to be out by 5:00 on the last day of classes/exams and couldn't come back until 3:00 on the Sunday before classes resumed.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Whatever. I highly doubt she is excited to spend the holidays with the ex who broke her heart. If they can deal with it, then she can deal with him bringing around another girl.
It is the parents' house. They do not have to invite his girlfriends for the holidays. They can meet her by going out to dinner if its that important, or on a weekend visit when the girl isn't home.
It's really NOT that difficult.
LOL!! They have been inviting his girlfriend for holidays. WTF are you talking about? Again, he has to be tied to his ex forever? That is a stupid position to take.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Yes they created this so now they are doing what they should. You can't have it both ways husker.
No, they aren't.
What would you do? Put her on the street?
She's at college--not on the street.
What about breaks? Where is she supposed to go?
She can stay at college. Many students who can't go home for various reasons do so.
That's just great, husker. Make her lose a 2nd family, and have no one to spend holidays with. That is horrible. Just mean and fvcking horrible. Attitudes like this make me weep for humanity. People are so fvcking selfish.
That's what you want him to have to do--and its his family, not hers.
Great solution if you're a heartless bastard.
It's what you want, so you must be.
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Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
So, husker, what about the fact that these parents WANT her in their lives? What they want in their own home doesn't matter?
Good lord, I really thought it was the younger generation with the horrible entitlement attitude. Now, not only does Husker think he's entitled to his parents' money, but he thinks kids get to tell their parents who they can have in their own home.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
So, husker, what about the fact that these parents WANT her in their lives? What they want in their own home doesn't matter?
Good lord, I really thought it was the younger generation with the horrible entitlement attitude. Now, not only does Husker think he's entitled to his parents' money, but he thinks kids get to tell their parents who they can have in their own home.
I know right...
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Regardless of what some may think there is no reason to ASSUME he was sleeping with the girl. Not all men have an issue keeping their dicks in their pants. And it's ridiculous to think she wouldn't want to come home to see her "parents". Regardless of what has happened. She's probably scared she's going to lose them too now.
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Whatever. I highly doubt she is excited to spend the holidays with the ex who broke her heart. If they can deal with it, then she can deal with him bringing around another girl.
It is the parents' house. They do not have to invite his girlfriends for the holidays. They can meet her by going out to dinner if its that important, or on a weekend visit when the girl isn't home.
It's really NOT that difficult.
LOL!! They have been inviting his girlfriend for holidays. WTF are you talking about? Again, he has to be tied to his ex forever? That is a stupid position to take.
Just because they invited one does not mean they have to invite them all. I mean, damn - why would they want to get attached to any others?
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I had two ex b/f's at my wedding. Some of DH's ex family members came. Really, just because people "break up" doesn't mean they have to be babies about it like this kid. You CAN act like an adult.
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Whatever. I highly doubt she is excited to spend the holidays with the ex who broke her heart. If they can deal with it, then she can deal with him bringing around another girl.
It is the parents' house. They do not have to invite his girlfriends for the holidays. They can meet her by going out to dinner if its that important, or on a weekend visit when the girl isn't home.
It's really NOT that difficult.
LOL!! They have been inviting his girlfriend for holidays. WTF are you talking about? Again, he has to be tied to his ex forever? That is a stupid position to take.
Just because they invited one does not mean they have to invite them all. I mean, damn - why would they want to get attached to any others?
That's stupid to invite an ex and not the current one. These people need to move on.
-- Edited by huskerbb on Wednesday 21st of October 2015 04:39:05 PM
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Whatever. I highly doubt she is excited to spend the holidays with the ex who broke her heart. If they can deal with it, then she can deal with him bringing around another girl.
It is the parents' house. They do not have to invite his girlfriends for the holidays. They can meet her by going out to dinner if its that important, or on a weekend visit when the girl isn't home.
It's really NOT that difficult.
LOL!! They have been inviting his girlfriend for holidays. WTF are you talking about? Again, he has to be tied to his ex forever? That is a stupid position to take.
Just because they invited one does not mean they have to invite them all. I mean, damn - why would they want to get attached to any others?
That's stupid to invite an ex and not the current one. These people need to move on.
-- Edited by huskerbb on Wednesday 21st of October 2015 04:39:05 PM
But they don't think of her as an Ex. They think of her as family. A lot of families are like that. Just because a separation happens, doesn't mean the family has to be tossed also...
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Did he cheat on her? Seems like he went to college and decided he wanted to be free to date. That's what young adults do. The parents never should have treated her like a possible DIL. They were teens. This is the parents job to deal with this. Their son has a right to break up with his HS girlfriend and date someone else......and not be stuck with his Ex on every holiday. I agree with husker.
Yes. He broke up with her AFTER getting involved with another girl. That's cheating. This girl doesn't deserve to be turned out from their home because of his wrong-doing.
"our son has broken up with Jane after getting involved with another girl at their college."
For gawd sake. They went to colleges and he met someone. That happens all of the time. They were not married. He is allowed to decide he's not interested in her anymore and to date someone else. They are kids.
And surely the girl has friends that might invite her for holidays.
The parents created this by allowing her to stay with themit's not fair to the Ex or the son.
Did he cheat on her? Seems like he went to college and decided he wanted to be free to date. That's what young adults do. The parents never should have treated her like a possible DIL. They were teens. This is the parents job to deal with this. Their son has a right to break up with his HS girlfriend and date someone else......and not be stuck with his Ex on every holiday. I agree with husker.
Yes. He broke up with her AFTER getting involved with another girl. That's cheating. This girl doesn't deserve to be turned out from their home because of his wrong-doing.
"our son has broken up with Jane after getting involved with another girl at their college."
For gawd sake. They went to colleges and he met someone. That happens all of the time. They were not married. He is allowed to decide he's not interested in her anymore and to date someone else. They are kids.
And surely the girl has friends that might invite her for holidays.
The parents created this by allowing her to stay with themit's not fair to the Ex or the son.
Of course he can break up with her and date someone else. But the way he went about it is not honorable. And he has absolutely no right to demand that his parents cut her out of their lives, too. None.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
He wasn't married to her and for all we know she may have not been to innocent herself. No where did it say he was cheating on her. A good compromise is to find her a place to stay when she is in town. They can still help her without alienate their son.
Did he cheat on her? Seems like he went to college and decided he wanted to be free to date. That's what young adults do. The parents never should have treated her like a possible DIL. They were teens. This is the parents job to deal with this. Their son has a right to break up with his HS girlfriend and date someone else......and not be stuck with his Ex on every holiday. I agree with husker.
Yes. He broke up with her AFTER getting involved with another girl. That's cheating. This girl doesn't deserve to be turned out from their home because of his wrong-doing.
"our son has broken up with Jane after getting involved with another girl at their college."
For gawd sake. They went to colleges and he met someone. That happens all of the time. They were not married. He is allowed to decide he's not interested in her anymore and to date someone else. They are kids.
And surely the girl has friends that might invite her for holidays.
The parents created this by allowing her to stay with themit's not fair to the Ex or the son.
Of course he can break up with her and date someone else. But the way he went about it is not honorable. And he has absolutely no right to demand that his parents cut her out of their lives, too. None.
1. Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't. Why can't she go to the place she considers home?
2. The parents helped her out when she had no place else to go. It's THEIR house, right?
Well they can cry why oh why when their son no longer wants a relationship with them and eventually Ex will meet someone and they can sit alone on holidays.
That sounds like a great idea.
I doubt they'll sit alone. Sounds like the girl will come home and be with them.
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Well they can cry why oh why when their son no longer wants a relationship with them and eventually Ex will meet someone and they can sit alone on holidays. That sounds like a great idea.
So they werent engaged or married and he went to college and found another girl and broke up with her. There is nothing " dishonorable" about that. That's called Life.
So they werent engaged or married and he went to college and found another girl and broke up with her. There is nothing " dishonorable" about that. That's called Life.
That's not the dishonorable part. The part where he expects his parents to stop loving a girl he chose to bring into the family. He could act like a grown up and stop acting like his parents must feel just as he does.
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