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Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

RE: He Wants Us to Cut Her Off.

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Omg i never had to " clear" going home. Home was home. I didnt have to make an appt. If u run your house like that fine but we dont and wont.
Yeah. My kids are welcome home any time--not to live--but darn sure to visit and especially for holidays.

ROFL!

You better believe I call my Mom, and make sure a visit will work, for her.

I wouldn't dream of just showing up unannounced!

(The joke would be on me. With my luck, the old girl would be off on a cruise. Or at one of my sister's houses.) biggrin

I always "clear" a visit, before I go. wink

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
I don't know anyone that would be pleased if random adults were brought to their home to stay without warning. They are 22, not 12.

Your child's boyfriend/girlfriend is no longer a "random" adult--certainly LESS random than a random ex.

We aren't talking a one night stand if he is serious enough to want her to meet the family.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Oh, I disagree that "few parents" would allow them to share a bedroom. I find that there are plenty of parents with very liberal views on that. But, I already said that the Ex should step out of the picture for a few days and allow him to have time with his parents. And, likewise, they can entertain her and tell him, sorry, Ex is coming over for dinner tonight and you are free to join us or not.
See - that's reasonable. The OP is not. In the OP, the son is demanding they cut her out of their lives completely.

That's why the advice given was spot on--which you and others seemed to disagree with.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Oh, I disagree that "few parents" would allow them to share a bedroom. I find that there are plenty of parents with very liberal views on that. But, I already said that the Ex should step out of the picture for a few days and allow him to have time with his parents. And, likewise, they can entertain her and tell him, sorry, Ex is coming over for dinner tonight and you are free to join us or not.
See - that's reasonable. The OP is not. In the OP, the son is demanding they cut her out of their lives completely.
That's why the advice given was spot on--which you and others seemed to disagree with.

No, the advice basically said to give in to her unreasonable son.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Oh, I disagree that "few parents" would allow them to share a bedroom. I find that there are plenty of parents with very liberal views on that. But, I already said that the Ex should step out of the picture for a few days and allow him to have time with his parents. And, likewise, they can entertain her and tell him, sorry, Ex is coming over for dinner tonight and you are free to join us or not.
See - that's reasonable. The OP is not. In the OP, the son is demanding they cut her out of their lives completely.
That's why the advice given was spot on--which you and others seemed to disagree with.
No, the advice basically said to give in to her unreasonable son.

It was NOT that at all. I don't even know how you could come up with that nonsense. There is NOTHING in the advice given that remotely suggests that.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Oh, I disagree that "few parents" would allow them to share a bedroom. I find that there are plenty of parents with very liberal views on that. But, I already said that the Ex should step out of the picture for a few days and allow him to have time with his parents. And, likewise, they can entertain her and tell him, sorry, Ex is coming over for dinner tonight and you are free to join us or not.
See - that's reasonable. The OP is not. In the OP, the son is demanding they cut her out of their lives completely.
That's why the advice given was spot on--which you and others seemed to disagree with.
No, the advice basically said to give in to her unreasonable son.
It was NOT that at all. I don't even know how you could come up with that nonsense. There is NOTHING in the advice given that remotely suggests that.

A: What a tragic situation, and how kind of you to step up and fill the breach in this hurting young person’s life. If only Jane had been your son’s dear friend, and not his girlfriend, this would be so much easier. It was essentially destined that this high school romance wouldn’t last, and now it hasn’t. You have obligations to two young people. First, to your son. Yes, you can be sad he and Jane broke up, but that’s normal, that happens, and you cannot put the weight of the world on him for wanting to move on from his high school girlfriend. You also can’t tell your son that when he comes home during the holidays his former girlfriend will be there. However, you can’t abandon her. So this is a very tricky needle to thread. First, try to establish some nondevastated communication with your son. Tell him that you understand that high school romances end and you are excited to meet his new girlfriend. Then explain all of you are in a difficult position because you, as adults, feel a moral and financial obligation to Jane. Explain you and his mother are going to do your best to discharge that without ever making him feel as if he’s done something wrong by breaking up. Say that you will not do anything behind his back, but you and his mother also want to help Jane move forward. She is alone in the world, and you two want to help her be less so. Then you and your wife need to have some talks with Jane. Surely, a girl who’s been through what she has needs counseling—not just to get over your son, but to get on with her life. She needs a larger network than the two of you. Maybe she can spend holidays with a roommate or a friend—while also visiting you two during, say, a short school break when your son is not planning to come home. You can tell her what you plan to do as far as financial support is concerned, but you two also need some counseling on how best to help her. Maybe, with Jane’s permission, you can talk to the dean of students on her behalf and explain her situation and that she needs attention and aid. But first, re-establish good relations with your son and some ground rules that honor his needs, while helping him see that his parents can help Jane without him feeling emotionally burdened.

The red is flippin' ridiculous - it's honor thy parents, not honor thy children's demands.

huskerbb · Guru

Not his "demands"--his needs. Their son comes before some random live-in stranger.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Not his "demands"--his needs. Their son comes before some random live-in stranger.

Needs, my ass.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Not his "demands"--his needs. Their son comes before some random live-in stranger.
Needs, my ass.

That's what it says.

Besides, a young kid should be able to come home for the holidays.

You are such a hypocrite.

I'm betting you would never say "well, honey, we'd love to meet your new boyfriend, but this Thanksgiving we are having your ex-boyfriend over for turkey dinner, so your current one can't come."

Mary Zombie · Guru

For goodness sake. No where in the letter did it say he was going to sleep with new GF in the house.

If I were the Ex I would automatically make other arrangements. I think she should do that...even as a matter of pride. She can still have a relationship with his parents. But they are not together anymore.
She needs to remove herself from the holiday equation so the parents don't have to do it.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

It is not a need. It is him not wanting to face his ex-girlfriend. But the OP's letter clearing said son wanted them to cut her out of their life completely. That is him being an ass - that is not about his needs.

And no, if I wanted to have someone to MY house on Thanksgiving, I would do it and my son would live with it.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Part of being an adult is learning to be civil to people you don't want to be around for the sake of work, kids, or other reasons. Sometimes in life we don't always get our way and sometimes we still have to deal with people and relationships we don't want to.

Whoever is at fault, whoever is right, whoever is wrong, doesn't really matter. It's the parents house. They get to choose. The other "grown ups" need to grow up and deal with it.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Seriously - WTF? I will never understand people who think they have to give into emotional blackmail. And if I ever raised a child that attempted that **** on me, they would see the wrath of mom so fast, their head would spin.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
It is not a need. It is him not wanting to face his ex-girlfriend. But the OP's letter clearing said son wanted them to cut her out of their life completely. That is him being an ass - that is not about his needs.

And no, if I wanted to have someone to MY house on Thanksgiving, I would do it and my son would live with it.

Do you regularly have holiday dinners with your ex's? Didn't think so.

That is NOT some unreasonable request.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Part of being an adult is learning to be civil to people you don't want to be around for the sake of work, kids, or other reasons. Sometimes in life we don't always get our way and sometimes we still have to deal with people and relationships we don't want to.

Whoever is at fault, whoever is right, whoever is wrong, doesn't really matter. It's the parents house. They get to choose. The other "grown ups" need to grow up and deal with it.

They need to choose their son.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
It is not a need. It is him not wanting to face his ex-girlfriend. But the OP's letter clearing said son wanted them to cut her out of their life completely. That is him being an ass - that is not about his needs.

And no, if I wanted to have someone to MY house on Thanksgiving, I would do it and my son would live with it.
Do you regularly have holiday dinners with your ex's? Didn't think so.

That is NOT some unreasonable request.

Not every holiday or occasion but yes. My DH's extended family invites exes/parents of the children to their house.

ed11563 · Guru

This is complicated by the fact that she's not JUST his ex.

These parents basically raised her, provided a safe-haven and parenting for her since she was in early elementary school.

The only justification I could see would be if he knows she's a drug addict who steals. And in the letter there's no indication of anything wrong with her.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Part of being an adult is learning to be civil to people you don't want to be around for the sake of work, kids, or other reasons. Sometimes in life we don't always get our way and sometimes we still have to deal with people and relationships we don't want to.

Whoever is at fault, whoever is right, whoever is wrong, doesn't really matter. It's the parents house. They get to choose. The other "grown ups" need to grow up and deal with it.
They need to choose their son.

They need to choose to do what is right. What THEY feel is right. And no, they do not need to choose to give in to unreasonable demands of their child.

This is NOT a normal situation.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

5 pages? Wow!

The first mistake was made when the girl moved in all those years ago and was not legally adopted.

If you are going to make someone your child, make them your child.

When the relationship started between the boy and girl, I'd like to know how that was handled.

Seems to me all of them need to grow up in their thinking.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I can understand why they didn't legally adopt her. If her dad is an alcoholic then they have to get his permission to adopt her. Also, for financial purposes for college she's much better off financially if they don't adopt her.

Now the dating should never have happened. That's where they went wrong. My guess is that he was already sweet on this girl when he asked his parents if she could move in. I would bet my bottom dollar that they had no idea about that. And that he used it as his opportunity to get her close to him. And now we have the fallout of it all.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Part of being an adult is learning to be civil to people you don't want to be around for the sake of work, kids, or other reasons. Sometimes in life we don't always get our way and sometimes we still have to deal with people and relationships we don't want to.

Whoever is at fault, whoever is right, whoever is wrong, doesn't really matter. It's the parents house. They get to choose. The other "grown ups" need to grow up and deal with it.
They need to choose their son.
They need to choose to do what is right. What THEY feel is right. And no, they do not need to choose to give in to unreasonable demands of their child.

This is NOT a normal situation.

What is right is to tell the ex to go stay with someone else for the holidays so their son can come home.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Part of being an adult is learning to be civil to people you don't want to be around for the sake of work, kids, or other reasons. Sometimes in life we don't always get our way and sometimes we still have to deal with people and relationships we don't want to.

Whoever is at fault, whoever is right, whoever is wrong, doesn't really matter. It's the parents house. They get to choose. The other "grown ups" need to grow up and deal with it.
They need to choose their son.
They need to choose to do what is right. What THEY feel is right. And no, they do not need to choose to give in to unreasonable demands of their child.

This is NOT a normal situation.
What is right is to tell the ex to go stay with someone else for the holidays so their son can come home.

You are deliberately ignoring the part where he is demanding they cut her out of their lives completely. This can be the solution sometimes - but not always, and not at his DEMAND.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Part of being an adult is learning to be civil to people you don't want to be around for the sake of work, kids, or other reasons. Sometimes in life we don't always get our way and sometimes we still have to deal with people and relationships we don't want to.

Whoever is at fault, whoever is right, whoever is wrong, doesn't really matter. It's the parents house. They get to choose. The other "grown ups" need to grow up and deal with it.
They need to choose their son.
They need to choose to do what is right. What THEY feel is right. And no, they do not need to choose to give in to unreasonable demands of their child.

This is NOT a normal situation.
What is right is to tell the ex to go stay with someone else for the holidays so their son can come home.
You are deliberately ignoring the part where he is demanding they cut her out of their lives completely. This can be the solution sometimes - but not always, and not at his DEMAND.

No, I'm not. I have said several times they can still honor financial obligations to her and that she can come visit at times the son is not there. That is exactly what the advice given says.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

The problem is that this girl might not always have someplace else to go - and going to the dean to stay on campus alone is a crappy alternative. If she has no where else to go, then she needs to be able to go home, and the guy can suck it up and act like an adult and deal with it.

And in her situation, the emotional support is probably more important than the financial.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
The problem is that this girl might not always have someplace else to go - and going to the dean to stay on campus alone is a crappy alternative. If she has no where else to go, then she needs to be able to go home, and the guy can suck it up and act like an adult and deal with it.

And in her situation, the emotional support is probably more important than the financial.

That's bs. I doubt she wants to be around the guy who broke her heart any more than he wants to be around her. So it's a choice. If she goes there for the holidays, he can't and will have the same options she currently does.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The problem is that this girl might not always have someplace else to go - and going to the dean to stay on campus alone is a crappy alternative. If she has no where else to go, then she needs to be able to go home, and the guy can suck it up and act like an adult and deal with it.

And in her situation, the emotional support is probably more important than the financial.
That's bs. I doubt she wants to be around the guy who broke her heart any more than he wants to be around her. So it's a choice. If she goes there for the holidays, he can't and will have the same options she currently does.

This is where we fundamentally disagree. I do not believe they cannot be in the same house together. That's asinine and immature.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The problem is that this girl might not always have someplace else to go - and going to the dean to stay on campus alone is a crappy alternative. If she has no where else to go, then she needs to be able to go home, and the guy can suck it up and act like an adult and deal with it.

And in her situation, the emotional support is probably more important than the financial.
That's bs. I doubt she wants to be around the guy who broke her heart any more than he wants to be around her. So it's a choice. If she goes there for the holidays, he can't and will have the same options she currently does.
This is where we fundamentally disagree. I do not believe they cannot be in the same house together. That's asinine and immature.

Oh come on. Are you going to invite your kids ex's over for thanksgiving?

Sure, its possible to be in the same house, but you know damn well,it would be beyond awkward and uncomfortable for everyone. Except in a few rare cases where exs get together for holidays due to shared children, it's just not done because NO ONE wants that.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The problem is that this girl might not always have someplace else to go - and going to the dean to stay on campus alone is a crappy alternative. If she has no where else to go, then she needs to be able to go home, and the guy can suck it up and act like an adult and deal with it.

And in her situation, the emotional support is probably more important than the financial.
That's bs. I doubt she wants to be around the guy who broke her heart any more than he wants to be around her. So it's a choice. If she goes there for the holidays, he can't and will have the same options she currently does.
This is where we fundamentally disagree. I do not believe they cannot be in the same house together. That's asinine and immature.
Oh come on. Are you going to invite your kids ex's over for thanksgiving?
Sure, its possible to be in the same house, but you know damn well,it would be beyond awkward and uncomfortable for everyone. Except in a few rare cases where exs get together for holidays due to shared children, it's just not done because NO ONE wants that.

Again, this is not a normal situation. And these exes basically have shared family now, and are going to have to deal with it.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The problem is that this girl might not always have someplace else to go - and going to the dean to stay on campus alone is a crappy alternative. If she has no where else to go, then she needs to be able to go home, and the guy can suck it up and act like an adult and deal with it.

And in her situation, the emotional support is probably more important than the financial.
That's bs. I doubt she wants to be around the guy who broke her heart any more than he wants to be around her. So it's a choice. If she goes there for the holidays, he can't and will have the same options she currently does.
This is where we fundamentally disagree. I do not believe they cannot be in the same house together. That's asinine and immature.
Oh come on. Are you going to invite your kids ex's over for thanksgiving?
Sure, its possible to be in the same house, but you know damn well,it would be beyond awkward and uncomfortable for everyone. Except in a few rare cases where exs get together for holidays due to shared children, it's just not done because NO ONE wants that.
Again, this is not a normal situation. And these exes basically have shared family now, and are going to have to deal with it.

Irrelevant. They are NOt family.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

So fvcking what. Family is what you MAKE of it.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
So fvcking what. Family is what you MAKE of it.

And unmake it.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

It's stupid to say they can't be together. What happens when they both get older and get married and have kids? Is she still not allowed to come "home" for holidays because he will ALWAYS be reminded? Stupid. He needs to grow up.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
It's stupid to say they can't be together. What happens when they both get older and get married and have kids? Is she still not allowed to come "home" for holidays because he will ALWAYS be reminded? Stupid. He needs to grow up.

What happens? Well, first, that will be an entirely different situation than just after a recent break up. Maybe this will heal, but it's not now.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

You live with the consequences of your actions. This is one of them.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
You live with the consequences of your actions. This is one of them.

Doesn't have to be. Having to deal with an ex on holidays, especially when there are no kids involved, is almost never a consequence. That is the point. His parents are trying to force him to stay in the relationship.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

No one is trying to force him to stay in a RELATIONSHIP. You cannot read. Just because the parents were upset they broke up does not mean they expect them to date forever. A lot of parents are upset when their kid breaks up with someone they really liked or got along with. But they know it's their kids choice to break up. They are not trying to force him to date her. He wants to demand things from his parents. He doesn't have that right.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
No one is trying to force him to stay in a RELATIONSHIP. You cannot read. Just because the parents were upset they broke up does not mean they expect them to date forever. A lot of parents are upset when their kid breaks up with someone they really liked or got along with. But they know it's their kids choice to break up. They are not trying to force him to date her. He wants to demand things from his parents. He doesn't have that right.

Yeah, but none of those upset parents invite the ex over for thanksgiving. It's just not done.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I have stated several times that I had two ex b/f's at my wedding. My husband's ex g/f catered my wedding. My in laws routinely invite my SIL's ex over to things. So yes, it IS done. Maybe not in your sheltered world but there are many people who break up and then act like adults and move on. This guy is not one of them.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I have stated several times that I had two ex b/f's at my wedding. My husband's ex g/f catered my wedding. My in laws routinely invite my SIL's ex over to things. So yes, it IS done. Maybe not in your sheltered world but there are many people who break up and then act like adults and move on. This guy is not one of them.

He's in college, not 50 years old. It was a high school relationship. There are no kids and no reason for them to do so.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

And for my SS I have gone to all kinds of things with the ex and her family. I am currently babysitting my DH's ex wife's grand daughter.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I have stated several times that I had two ex b/f's at my wedding. My husband's ex g/f catered my wedding. My in laws routinely invite my SIL's ex over to things. So yes, it IS done. Maybe not in your sheltered world but there are many people who break up and then act like adults and move on. This guy is not one of them.
He's in college, not 50 years old. It was a high school relationship. There are no kids and no reason for them to do so.

That's just an excuse. He needs to grow up. Anyway, it doesn't matter. It's the parents house and they can do whatever the hell they please.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I have stated several times that I had two ex b/f's at my wedding. My husband's ex g/f catered my wedding. My in laws routinely invite my SIL's ex over to things. So yes, it IS done. Maybe not in your sheltered world but there are many people who break up and then act like adults and move on. This guy is not one of them.
He's in college, not 50 years old. It was a high school relationship. There are no kids and no reason for them to do so.
That's just an excuse. He needs to grow up. Anyway, it doesn't matter. It's the parents house and they can do whatever the hell they please.

And risk ruining their relationship with their son and potentially future DIL's. Stupid. There is zero reason to even consider this.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The problem is that this girl might not always have someplace else to go - and going to the dean to stay on campus alone is a crappy alternative. If she has no where else to go, then she needs to be able to go home, and the guy can suck it up and act like an adult and deal with it.

And in her situation, the emotional support is probably more important than the financial.
That's bs. I doubt she wants to be around the guy who broke her heart any more than he wants to be around her. So it's a choice. If she goes there for the holidays, he can't and will have the same options she currently does.
This is where we fundamentally disagree. I do not believe they cannot be in the same house together. That's asinine and immature.
Oh come on. Are you going to invite your kids ex's over for thanksgiving?
Sure, its possible to be in the same house, but you know damn well,it would be beyond awkward and uncomfortable for everyone. Except in a few rare cases where exs get together for holidays due to shared children, it's just not done because NO ONE wants that.
Again, this is not a normal situation. And these exes basically have shared family now, and are going to have to deal with it.
Irrelevant. They are NOt family.

This is where I disagree. They all most certainly ARE family. Family is more than biology. This girl is part of their family. When they started dating, there should have been a conversation about what happens when you break up and this is how we will all move on in that situation. Yes. It will be uncomfortable. Most dealings with family ARE uncomfortable to some extent - everyone has that relative they don't like and have learned to smile and be polite around for the sake of family harmony. This is no different.

huskerbb · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The problem is that this girl might not always have someplace else to go - and going to the dean to stay on campus alone is a crappy alternative. If she has no where else to go, then she needs to be able to go home, and the guy can suck it up and act like an adult and deal with it.

And in her situation, the emotional support is probably more important than the financial.
That's bs. I doubt she wants to be around the guy who broke her heart any more than he wants to be around her. So it's a choice. If she goes there for the holidays, he can't and will have the same options she currently does.
This is where we fundamentally disagree. I do not believe they cannot be in the same house together. That's asinine and immature.
Oh come on. Are you going to invite your kids ex's over for thanksgiving?
Sure, its possible to be in the same house, but you know damn well,it would be beyond awkward and uncomfortable for everyone. Except in a few rare cases where exs get together for holidays due to shared children, it's just not done because NO ONE wants that.
Again, this is not a normal situation. And these exes basically have shared family now, and are going to have to deal with it.
Irrelevant. They are NOt family.
This is where I disagree. They all most certainly ARE family. Family is more than biology. This girl is part of their family. When they started dating, there should have been a conversation about what happens when you break up and this is how we will all move on in that situation. Yes. It will be uncomfortable. Most dealings with family ARE uncomfortable to some extent - everyone has that relative they don't like and have learned to smile and be polite around for the sake of family harmony. This is no different.

It's vastly different. No one dated weird aunt mable.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

IMHO, family is who you decide IS family.

Family does not have to be blood.

Hey, even a really close friend can be "family".

IMHO, this whole thread is much ado about nothing.

It is also beginning to annoy me..

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

just Czech wrote:
IMHO, family is who you decide IS family.

Family does not have to be blood.

Hey, even a really close friend can be "family".

IMHO, this whole thread is much ado about nothing.

It is also beginning to annoy me..

Yep.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Czech,

Can't you smack some sense into husker???

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

That's fine and dandy but if you want to put an ex from a teen age romance on the same level as your child, then I guess that's your choice.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
That's fine and dandy but if you want to put an ex from a teen age romance on the same level as your child, then I guess that's your choice.

But it was their CHILD who asked his parents to help the girl in the first place!

flan