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A bride presented her father with a 'certificate of purity' on her wedding day to prove she was a virgin.

Brelyn Bowman gave the framed document to her proud father, who is a pastor, before tying the knot with her groom Timothy earlier this month.

The statement on the signed certificate confirmed that her 'hymen is intact', citing a passage from the Bible that some Christians interpret as instruction to abstain from sex until marriage.

Mrs Bowman faced criticism online, with many finding it strange that she chose to share such intimate details about her sex life with her father.
The certificate, which Mrs Bowman gave to her father pastor Michael Freeman on October 10, contains this passage from Corinthians 6:20.



It reads: 'Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.'

The document was signed by both Mrs Bowman, who is in her twenties, and her gynecologist, who appears to have conducted tests to check whether she is a virgin.



The certificate reads: 'On the 10th of May 2006, I, Brelyn Freeman, made a vow to glorify God in my body and spirit which are God's because I have been bought with a price (Jesus).

'I have kept this commitment and present this certificate to my father Dr Michael A. Freeman to show how I have honored God and my earthly father in my body by maintaining my purity and that my hymen is intact on this 10th day of October 2015.'

Mr Freeman told BuzzFeed that he was not expecting to be presented with the certificate and was caught off guard when he was asked to stand during the wedding reception

He said: 'I was totally unaware of what was about to take place. During the remarks, she shared that she wanted to honor me by not allowing any man to touch her before her husband.'

The pastor added that all of his children said they would save themselves for marriage, with his eldest daughter Brittany presenting him with a similar document at her wedding six years ago.

However, he said his son had engaged in pre-marital sex.

He added: 'It's not about what they did for me, rather what they did for themselves.'

Mrs Bowman faced criticism online, with many finding it strange that she chose to share such intimate details about her sex life with her father.

Lou Ellen Partridge Doty wrote on Facebook: 'I find it rather disturbing. I was a virgin on my wedding night, but that was between my husband and I. My father had nothing to do with it.'
Sareta Ashraph said: 'Leaving aside the whole issue of the apparent importance of women being virgins when married (esp when this standard isn't applied equally to men), why on earth is she presenting such a certificate to her *father*.

'It's almost like saying "I belong to one man (my dad) but now that I am going to belong to another man (my husband) and there's been no other man of note in between". This whole thing comes across less as religious than it does disturbingly patriarchal.'

Kim Daniels Boyd added: 'If this is such a Christian Family, why couldn't the dad just take his daughters word for it?? Why did she have to have medical proof for him to believe her??

'And why do they feel the need to make it public, viral at that, when it's something that should be between her, her new husband and God. Yes, they are weird!'

Mr Freeman hit back on Twitter, writing: 'A lot of your hate mail will come from those who don't feel good about who they are. #prayforthem'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3284078/Outrage-Maryland-bride-presents-Christian-pastor-father-certificate-purity-signed-gynecologist-wedding-day-prove-s-virgin.html#ixzz3pIIcOIwk
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That's sweet.

Although I don't think it would be something I would share at a reception.

It's a private thing and should remain that way.

But I love the sentiment.

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I think propagating the notion that all women have a hymen in the first place or that having it is evidence of one's "virginity" is very disturbing. And, I don't find it "sweet", I find it disgusting. Where is the groom's evidence? Do we need a log of where his penis has been?

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The hymen is NOT an indication of virginity. Some women are born without that. If you do have it and are athletic or use tampons, then that that gone and most women are not even aware of when that happens. To propogate these continual lies about the hymen is dangerous and unfair to women.

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I think propagating the notion that all women have a hymen in the first place or that having it is evidence of one's "virginity" is very disturbing. And, I don't find it "sweet", I find it disgusting. Where is the groom's evidence? Do we need a log of where his penis has been?


His mother has pictures and videos of his entire life, and can prove he was never out of her sight long enough to put his penis anywhere Mommy didn't want it to go. wink

 



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The hymen is NOT an indication of virginity. Some women are born without that. If you do have it and are athletic or use tampons, then that that gone and most women are not even aware of when that happens. To propogate these continual lies about the hymen is dangerous and unfair to women.


AND a hymen can be stretched without breaking. 

 



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Well I think it's wonderful that someone cares about God's teachings and respects themselves and their future spouse enough to keep themselves like that.



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I think if that's what she wanted to do - that's her business.

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Of course. But, when you plaster it all over social media, it becomes fodder for conversation. There are things that can be done in private and not plastered on Instagram.

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I find it truly bizarre. But whatever, it is her life and if it made her happy, good for her.
Although, I agree that it is damaging to perpetuate the hymen myth. And I do not like sending the message to young girls that if you have sex you are magically 'impure'.

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Why does virginity only apply to women? Nobody seems to care about male purity. I think that is a two way street is it not?

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Who says it doesnt?

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Who says it doesnt?





Society apparently. What measures are being taken in regards to male purity? Where is the discussion about that? Does her father demand to know if the groom is pure? Can we do background checks on all previous girlfriends and discuss that with them? There is a lot of interest in female purity but male purity, who cares?

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Where is her father going to hang this FRAMED certificate?



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Probably off of his schlong.

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Who says it doesnt?



 



Society apparently. What measures are being taken in regards to male purity? Where is the discussion about that? Does her father demand to know if the groom is pure? Can we do background checks on all previous girlfriends and discuss that with them? There is a lot of interest in female purity but male purity, who cares?


Men used to want to marry a virgin, so they could be sure a baby conceived on their wedding night was actually HIS. 



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LOL

People are so .... judgmental.

It's her life, she wasn't forced at gun point to do this, so get over it.

And yes, if a man wants a virgin, he darn well better be a virgin as well.

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People are so .... judgmental.

It's her life, she wasn't forced at gun point to do this, so get over it.

And yes, if a man wants a virgin, he darn well better be a virgin as well.


 But she could have done it in private. The fact that she CHOSE to do it in the middle of her wedding...people WILL comment.

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Here's what I find interesting.

If this were someone announcing they were gay, there would be no end to the back slapping and atta'boys. The praise across social and network media would be earth shaking.

But someone who announces they are still a virgin on their wedding, well let's tie them to the stake and burn them alive!

People want to make all manner of private moments public these days.

But the only ones being told they should keep to themselves are the one involving good morals and following God.

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Here's what I find interesting.


If this were someone announcing they were gay, there would be no end to the back slapping and atta'boys. The praise across social and network media would be earth shaking.


But someone who announces they are still a virgin on their wedding, well let's tie them to the stake and burn them alive!


People want to make all manner of private moments public these days.


But the only ones being told they should keep to themselves are the one involving good morals and following God.





Oh FFS!

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People want to make all manner of private moments public these days.

Yes, post your life on the DailyMail then people gonna comment! Duh.

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People are so .... judgmental.


It's her life, she wasn't forced at gun point to do this, so get over it.


And yes, if a man wants a virgin, he darn well better be a virgin as well.



Well why? He can say he only wants virgins and not be one himself can't he? I mean, he likes what he likes right?

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LOL

People are so .... judgmental.

It's her life, she wasn't forced at gun point to do this, so get over it.

And yes, if a man wants a virgin, he darn well better be a virgin as well.


 But she could have done it in private. The fact that she CHOSE to do it in the middle of her wedding...people WILL comment.

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So? They can comment all they want. Won't change a darn thing. It will make the public look like idiots though.

But, I do believe, that is exactly what the net highlights --- judgmental idiots.

Unless, of course, it's PC. no 



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People are so .... judgmental.


It's her life, she wasn't forced at gun point to do this, so get over it.


And yes, if a man wants a virgin, he darn well better be a virgin as well.



 

Well why? He can say he only wants virgins and not be one himself can't he? I mean, he likes what he likes right?


I would be the judgmental biotch telling him he's a hypocrite.  



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Maybe if we stopped posting every intimate detail of our lives on YouTube, then peeps wouldn't be writing comments?

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lilyofcourse wrote:

Here's what I find interesting.


If this were someone announcing they were gay, there would be no end to the back slapping and atta'boys. The praise across social and network media would be earth shaking.


But someone who announces they are still a virgin on their wedding, well let's tie them to the stake and burn them alive!


People want to make all manner of private moments public these days.


But the only ones being told they should keep to themselves are the one involving good morals and following God.



 



Oh FFS!


 x 100!

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People are so .... judgmental.


It's her life, she wasn't forced at gun point to do this, so get over it.


And yes, if a man wants a virgin, he darn well better be a virgin as well.



 

Well why? He can say he only wants virgins and not be one himself can't he? I mean, he likes what he likes right?


I would be the judgmental biotch telling him he's a hypocrite.  



So, you are criticizing people for being judgmental but you are making a judgment that he needs to be a virgin if he wants a virgin? I am so confused! biggrin

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I must have missed the tie her to a stake and burn her alive posts...

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just Czech wrote:

 

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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People are so .... judgmental.


It's her life, she wasn't forced at gun point to do this, so get over it.


And yes, if a man wants a virgin, he darn well better be a virgin as well.



 

Well why? He can say he only wants virgins and not be one himself can't he? I mean, he likes what he likes right?


I would be the judgmental biotch telling him he's a hypocrite.  



 

So, you are criticizing people for being judgmental but you are making a judgment that he needs to be a virgin if he wants a virgin? I am so confused! biggrin


Darn right. I like the double standard. biggrin 



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I grinned at this:

If this is such a Christian Family, why couldn't the dad just take his daughters word for it?? Why did she have to have medical proof for him to believe her??

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lilyofcourse wrote:

Here's what I find interesting.


If this were someone announcing they were gay, there would be no end to the back slapping and atta'boys. The praise across social and network media would be earth shaking.


But someone who announces they are still a virgin on their wedding, well let's tie them to the stake and burn them alive!


People want to make all manner of private moments public these days.


But the only ones being told they should keep to themselves are the one involving good morals and following God.



 



Oh FFS!


 So I'm wrong? 

You've seen it. 

Heck! You've said it! 

A person's sex life is their business and no one elses.

And you've seen the days and days of public praise for announcing they are gay.

But here, even you are poo pooing this woman because she announced she maintained her virginity until marriage.

So what is with the FFS? 

You are proof my assessment is most accurate. 



-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Thursday 22nd of October 2015 09:07:55 AM

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There ya go, LGS! YOU ARE PROOF...

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I wonder if its a cultural thing? I've heard of this in several black Southern churches...

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I grinned at this:

If this is such a Christian Family, why couldn't the dad just take his daughters word for it?? Why did she have to have medical proof for him to believe her??

flan


It was probably HER idea. 



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I grinned at this:

If this is such a Christian Family, why couldn't the dad just take his daughters word for it?? Why did she have to have medical proof for him to believe her??

flan


It was probably HER idea. 


We don't know that it wasn't her idea. 



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I wonder if its a cultural thing? I've heard of this in several black Southern churches...


 Once, years ago, I attended the wedding of a dear friend...very conservative Christian church. The priest announced that she was "pure," but there was no framed certificate.

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As a Christian I taught purity to my children as I was taught. Never would have wanted them to make a big deal or present a certificate at their wedding. I think that is a private matter between them and their spouse. I did tell my son that he had no right to expect his wife to be a virgin if he wasn't.

On this situation maybe the bride choose to do this on her own and it was important to her. That was her choice to make.

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Well, the point of a white wedding dress is that it supposedly indicates purity.

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Here's what I find interesting.


If this were someone announcing they were gay, there would be no end to the back slapping and atta'boys. The praise across social and network media would be earth shaking.


But someone who announces they are still a virgin on their wedding, well let's tie them to the stake and burn them alive!


People want to make all manner of private moments public these days.


But the only ones being told they should keep to themselves are the one involving good morals and following God.



 



Oh FFS!


 So I'm wrong? 

You've seen it. 

Heck! You've said it! 

A person's sex life is their business and no one elses.

And you've seen the days and days of public praise for announcing they are gay.

But here, even you are poo pooing this woman because she announced she maintained her virginity until marriage.

So what is with the FFS? 

You are proof my assessment is most accurate. 



-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Thursday 22nd of October 2015 09:07:55 AM



Proof of what? I have criticized a lot of the gay agenda.

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Why do people care so much? Geez, it's not like she wants everyone to follow suit. It made her family happy. Get over it.

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Why do people care so much? Geez, it's not like she wants everyone to follow suit. It made her family happy. Get over it.



Ask the same of her. Why does she think the whole word is interested in her hymen?confuse

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I'm willing to be that she's not the one that went to the media with this....

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You just like saying hymen...lol

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I'm willing to be that she's not the one that went to the media with this....



So, this got into the news with lots of pictures how?

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They are normal wedding pictures. Someone saw them online.

You really think she contacted the Daily Mail and asked them to run her story?

This is normal in her family.

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Did you watch the Video? THEY posted it on Instagram and put it out there. That is how it became a story.

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I think it is the whole TMI thing. Like gays, I don't need to know who they are sleeping with. I dont' need to know that you are a virgin. I don't need to know that you jacked off in the car this morning before you came into work. Let personal things be personal. We don't need to KNOW every damn thing about everyone!

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And? Instagram is private? I'm asking if you think they went to the media themselves?

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