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ed11563 · Guru

Staying With the Anti-Choice Doctor

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

So she had no complaints about the care he provided before, but now she does.

If it bothers you that much, switch doctors. But I seriously doubt you are going to find any private practice OB that supports Planned Parenthood's practices. Good luck with that.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You know the slant when u see "Anti-choice".

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

So go let PP take care of you.

Lindley · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
So she had no complaints about the care he provided before, but now she does.

If it bothers you that much, switch doctors. But I seriously doubt you are going to find any private practice OB that supports Planned Parenthood's practices. Good luck with that.

No not to many. They choose the profession to bring life into the world not to kill life. In the rare real cases of the mothers life in danger but not for convenience of the mother.

huskerbb · Guru

Are we going to start sending out political surveys to see if the people who cut our hair share our views on gun control? Do we need to find out where the owner of the meat market stands on Obamacare?

We profess to want politicians who can "Reach across the aisle" and work with members of the other party, but we can't even do business with them if they don't correspond to our views 100%?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lindley wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
So she had no complaints about the care he provided before, but now she does.

If it bothers you that much, switch doctors. But I seriously doubt you are going to find any private practice OB that supports Planned Parenthood's practices. Good luck with that.
No not to many. They choose the profession to bring life into the world not to kill life. In the rare real cases of the mothers life in danger but not for convenience of the mother.

I actually wasn't referring to that specifically. I'm talking about surgeries in a walk-in clinic with doctors who may not be admitted to practice at nearby facilities - no hospital priviledges, handing out abortion drugs without proper follow-up. A good OB takes care of his patients and cares about them - Planned Parenthood does not.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

All I can say is, I guess she should have thought about this before she killed her baby.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
All I can say is, I guess she should have thought about this before she killed her baby.

Oh, FFS!

flan

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
All I can say is, I guess she should have thought about this before she killed her baby.
Oh, FFS!
flan

I know, right?

Ohfour · Hooker

Our actions have consequences throughout our lives.

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Well, it seems that applies to the doctor as well, because he may lose a patient.

Ohfour · Hooker

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Well, it seems that applies to the doctor as well, because he may lose a patient.

I'm sure that's not going to hurt him. He will probably be inundated with women wanting to see him because of his stance. That's usually how these things work...

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

I doubt it. I want children, and would never even consider an abortion under everyday circumstances, but I would never ever want a vehemently anti choice doctor. If my pregnancy, God forbid, puts my life at risk, I want a doctor that will be open and honest about ALL my options, including abortion.

Ohfour · Hooker

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
I doubt it. I want children, and would never even consider an abortion under everyday circumstances, but I would never ever want a vehemently anti choice doctor. If my pregnancy, God forbid, puts my life at risk, I want a doctor that will be open and honest about ALL my options, including abortion.

See, here, these doctors offices would be overflowing. If you are a Christian company, you get more business than you can handle. We have Christian Classifieds, and the majority of people will look here before anywhere else. Just about every business has some sort of bible verse either on their marquee or painted on the walls. The car dealerships, the gym, even the grocery stores.

http://www.christian-classifieds.com/christian_business_directory.html

And most doctors are against elective abortions. There are few that will not abort to save the life or health of the mother. The doctors that signed this petition aren't necessarily vehemently anti-choice. They are anti elective abortion. Which is what planned parenthood is all about...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Tuesday 27th of October 2015 04:50:52 PM

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
All I can say is, I guess she should have thought about this before she killed her baby.
Oh, FFS!
flan
I know, right?

I shouldn't be surprised by now!

flan

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Ohfour wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
I doubt it. I want children, and would never even consider an abortion under everyday circumstances, but I would never ever want a vehemently anti choice doctor. If my pregnancy, God forbid, puts my life at risk, I want a doctor that will be open and honest about ALL my options, including abortion.
See, here, these doctors offices would be overflowing. If you are a Christian company, you get more business than you can handle. We have Christian Classifieds, and the majority of people will look here before anywhere else. Just about every business has some sort of bible verse either on their marquee or painted on the walls. The car dealerships, the gym, even the grocery stores.

http://www.christian-classifieds.com/christian_business_directory.html

And most doctors are against elective abortions. There are few that will not abort to save the life or health of the mother. The doctors that signed this petition aren't necessarily vehemently anti-choice. They are anti elective abortion. Which is what planned parenthood is all about...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Tuesday 27th of October 2015 04:50:52 PM

And things are very different here. Things that make it a point of broadcasting how very Christian they are--Inns, printing companies, florists, etc, mostly get their clientele from other Christians, not droves of random people. A doctor that makes a point of being anti choice would most likely see his business shrink slightly.

Ohfour · Hooker

In my COUNTY alone, (and I live in the suburbs) we have over 200 Christian Churches. I would venture to say that 90% of our population would call themselves Christian. So it bodes well for Christian business to set up shop here...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
In my COUNTY alone, (and I live in the suburbs) we have over 200 Christian Churches. I would venture to say that 90% of our population would call themselves Christian. So it bodes well for Christian business to set up shop here...

Yes, but the entire country is not the same as your county.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
In my COUNTY alone, (and I live in the suburbs) we have over 200 Christian Churches. I would venture to say that 90% of our population would call themselves Christian. So it bodes well for Christian business to set up shop here...
Yes, but the entire country is not the same as your county.
flan

A agree, but it sounds like, from the letter, she lives somewhere similar to my town/county...

Ohfour · Hooker

Then again, there would be no way that my county would allow a planned parenthood. The closest one to us is over 20 miles away in Nashville. And there is only one there and they are only open half a day M-S, closed on Sunday.
The next nearest one is 150 miles away in Evansville, KY. We aren't real big on baby killing around here...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
Then again, there would be no way that my county would allow a planned parenthood. The closest one to us is over 20 miles away in Nashville. And there is only one there and they are only open half a day M-S, closed on Sunday.
The next nearest one is 150 miles away in Evansville, KY. We aren't real big on baby killing around here...

Do you want a gold star?

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Then again, there would be no way that my county would allow a planned parenthood. The closest one to us is over 20 miles away in Nashville. And there is only one there and they are only open half a day M-S, closed on Sunday.
The next nearest one is 150 miles away in Evansville, KY. We aren't real big on baby killing around here...
Do you want a gold star?
flan

Absolutely. Know how many murders we've had in the past 5 years? 1. A moral society is a safe society. And killing babies is not moral.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

A moral society is a safe society. And killing babies is not moral.

Truer words were never spoken.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Then why does ohfour's county have so many gun owners?

flan

huskerbb · Guru

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
I doubt it. I want children, and would never even consider an abortion under everyday circumstances, but I would never ever want a vehemently anti choice doctor. If my pregnancy, God forbid, puts my life at risk, I want a doctor that will be open and honest about ALL my options, including abortion.
See, here, these doctors offices would be overflowing. If you are a Christian company, you get more business than you can handle. We have Christian Classifieds, and the majority of people will look here before anywhere else. Just about every business has some sort of bible verse either on their marquee or painted on the walls. The car dealerships, the gym, even the grocery stores.

http://www.christian-classifieds.com/christian_business_directory.html

And most doctors are against elective abortions. There are few that will not abort to save the life or health of the mother. The doctors that signed this petition aren't necessarily vehemently anti-choice. They are anti elective abortion. Which is what planned parenthood is all about...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Tuesday 27th of October 2015 04:50:52 PM
And things are very different here. Things that make it a point of broadcasting how very Christian they are--Inns, printing companies, florists, etc, mostly get their clientele from other Christians, not droves of random people. A doctor that makes a point of being anti choice would most likely see his business shrink slightly.

He didn't make a "point" of it.

Can we not vote our conscience now? Is that where the liberals are going with this?

ed11563 · Guru

Ohfour wrote:

Absolutely. Know how many murders we've had in the past 5 years? 1. A moral society is a safe society. And killing babies is not moral.

It keeps coming back to the question, When does a fetus become a baby?

One group says "at the moment when sperm meets ovum";

One group says "when it takes its' first breath".

And some people have chosen some point in between.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

ed11563 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

Absolutely. Know how many murders we've had in the past 5 years? 1. A moral society is a safe society. And killing babies is not moral.
It keeps coming back to the question, When does a fetus become a baby?
One group says "at the moment when sperm meets ovum";
One group says "when it takes its' first breath".
And some people have chosen some point in between.

And on this board, we get called names.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Then why does ohfour's county have so many gun owners?

flan

So owning a gun is immoral but killing a baby is not?

There you have it folks! The logic of the left!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

ed11563 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

Absolutely. Know how many murders we've had in the past 5 years? 1. A moral society is a safe society. And killing babies is not moral.
It keeps coming back to the question, When does a fetus become a baby?
One group says "at the moment when sperm meets ovum";
One group says "when it takes its' first breath".
And some people have chosen some point in between.

It's a baby the second it is conceived.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Then why does ohfour's county have so many gun owners?

flan
So owning a gun is immoral but killing a baby is not?
There you have it folks! The logic of the left!

You SAID that a moral society is a SAFE society...Why the need for guns in your moral county?

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

Absolutely. Know how many murders we've had in the past 5 years? 1. A moral society is a safe society. And killing babies is not moral.
It keeps coming back to the question, When does a fetus become a baby?
One group says "at the moment when sperm meets ovum";
One group says "when it takes its' first breath".
And some people have chosen some point in between.

It's a baby the second it is conceived.

And you are welcome to your opinion.

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Then why does ohfour's county have so many gun owners?

flan
So owning a gun is immoral but killing a baby is not?
There you have it folks! The logic of the left!
You SAID that a moral society is a SAFE society...Why the need for guns in your moral county?
flan

??? What do guns have to do with safety???

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Then why does ohfour's county have so many gun owners?

flan
So owning a gun is immoral but killing a baby is not?
There you have it folks! The logic of the left!
You SAID that a moral society is a SAFE society...Why the need for guns in your moral county?
flan
??? What do guns have to do with safety???

Oh, please, that has been said countless time here.

"I need a gun to protect my family..."

flan

huskerbb · Guru

I've owned guns all my life and have never needed them, or really even thought about them, for that purpose.

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Then why does ohfour's county have so many gun owners?

flan
So owning a gun is immoral but killing a baby is not?
There you have it folks! The logic of the left!
You SAID that a moral society is a SAFE society...Why the need for guns in your moral county?
flan
??? What do guns have to do with safety???
Oh, please, that has been said countless time here.
"I need a gun to protect my family..."
flan

Ever think that our crime rate is low BECAUSE we have guns? Criminals stay away from here. They know we will shoot them in a heartbeat if the broke into our house. And ONE murder. Doesnt that prove that gun ownership makes a town safer? No one one is killing people with our plethora of guns. Whats the homicide rate in your county?

ed11563 · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

Absolutely. Know how many murders we've had in the past 5 years? 1. A moral society is a safe society. And killing babies is not moral.
It keeps coming back to the question, When does a fetus become a baby?
One group says "at the moment when sperm meets ovum";
One group says "when it takes its' first breath".
And some people have chosen some point in between.

It's a baby the second it is conceived.

So you should complain about the way God treats babies, because 25% of fertilized eggs spontaneously abort (miscarry). That's WAY more than the ones terminated by people on purpose.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Every morning on the news, there is at least 1 killing here. But we're a big city, not a rural community.

flan

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

When I found out I was pregnant with my third I was already almost six months along. Yes, it happened. I had been taking a lot of prescription drugs. Also, at about three months along I had a minor incident involving my ankle. They x-ray'ed it and I got a tetanus shot, antibiotics, and pain pills to go along with the stitches. I honestly don't remember three days of my life. And I didn't know I was pregnant at the time. So when I found out I was pregnant it was hard to find a doctor. No one wanted to take me. They all wanted me to abort. I purposely looked for a pro life doctor because I had no intentions of aborting.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

Absolutely. Know how many murders we've had in the past 5 years? 1. A moral society is a safe society. And killing babies is not moral.
It keeps coming back to the question, When does a fetus become a baby?
One group says "at the moment when sperm meets ovum";
One group says "when it takes its' first breath".
And some people have chosen some point in between.

It's a baby the second it is conceived.

So you should complain about the way God treats babies, because 25% of fertilized eggs spontaneously abort (miscarry). That's WAY more than the ones terminated by people on purpose.

God's ways are not to be understood by us.

And if you can not understand the difference between a miscarriage and an abortion you have nothing more to add to the conversation.

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Every morning on the news, there is at least 1 killing here. But we're a big city, not a rural community.

flan

Whats the population? I guarantee the rate of murder is 500x the rate it is here. 1 murder in 5 years with a population of 200k.

ed11563 · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

Absolutely. Know how many murders we've had in the past 5 years? 1. A moral society is a safe society. And killing babies is not moral.
It keeps coming back to the question, When does a fetus become a baby?
One group says "at the moment when sperm meets ovum";
One group says "when it takes its' first breath".
And some people have chosen some point in between.

It's a baby the second it is conceived.

So you should complain about the way God treats babies, because 25% of fertilized eggs spontaneously abort (miscarry). That's WAY more than the ones terminated by people on purpose.

God's ways are not to be understood by us.
And if you can not understand the difference between a miscarriage and an abortion you have nothing more to add to the conversation.

When I was growing up I knew some adults who claimed that "If God had meant people to fly, He'd have given us wings," meaning that airplanes were the work of the Devil.

The alternative is that God gave Man the ability to use tools, and the ability to invent airplanes.

You might say that God didn't give Man methods to abort babies, that it's the work of the Devil ... but how do you know?

If a fetus is given a Soul at the moment of conception, what happens to the 25% that God kills before birth?

Sorry, I think The Big Bang and Evolution do NOT conflict with Genesis, and I think God gave us the ability to make and use tools.

And if Souls go somewhere at death, I'd like to understand what happens with the souls of those that are assigned at conception to the babies who spontaneously terminate.

Yes, it's likely that your understanding of God, and my understanding of God, are not the same.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I don't have all those answers.

I never claimed to.

But the Ten Commandments clearly says Thou Shalt Not Kill.

And yes. I do support the death penalty.

Because the Bible says life for a life.

Ohfour · Hooker

Those 25% are in heaven...simple...

ed11563 · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
I don't have all those answers.

I never claimed to.

But the Ten Commandments clearly says Thou Shalt Not Kill.

And yes. I do support the death penalty.

Because the Bible says life for a life.

I'm pretty sure the original document translates to "Thou shalt not Murder", which allows killing animals for food, and killing humans in battle.

and doesn't the Bible include

sacrificing children to God?

Tinydancer · Guru

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
All I can say is, I guess she should have thought about this before she killed her baby.
Oh, FFS!
flan
I know, right?

Yeah. Killing a baby is soooo trivial we should all just say "Oh, FFS!" That's just so wrong but why should I expect you to see it?

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
All I can say is, I guess she should have thought about this before she killed her baby.
Oh, FFS!
flan
I know, right?
I shouldn't be surprised by now!
flan

I'm am never surprised by your stance so I guess that goes both ways.

Tinydancer · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

Absolutely. Know how many murders we've had in the past 5 years? 1. A moral society is a safe society. And killing babies is not moral.
It keeps coming back to the question, When does a fetus become a baby?
One group says "at the moment when sperm meets ovum";
One group says "when it takes its' first breath".
And some people have chosen some point in between.

It's a baby the second it is conceived.

Just in case there was any doubt about what is being terminate for those who are squeamish about the truth.

ed11563 · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
ed11563 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

Absolutely. Know how many murders we've had in the past 5 years? 1. A moral society is a safe society. And killing babies is not moral.
It keeps coming back to the question, When does a fetus become a baby?
One group says "at the moment when sperm meets ovum";
One group says "when it takes its' first breath".
And some people have chosen some point in between.

It's a baby the second it is conceived.

Just in case there was any doubt about what is being terminate for those who are squeamish about the truth.

And the people who believe that keep trying to bully others into changing their beliefs.

Is it working?

Tinydancer · Guru

Believe what? That a baby is a baby and when you kill it you kill it? Yeah and I'm the bully not killing babies or thinking it's the right thing to do. You make me laugh...

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