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ed11563 · Guru

officer who dragged student has been fired

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

If I was the mother of that student I'd have broken the OTHER arm after I kicked her azz. When I was growing up I was taught to respect my teachers and the police. Kids these days are not taught respect. This little brat refused to get off her phone in class. And no, I don't think what the cop did was right but if this brat had not been actively trying to break every rule this never would have gone down. I feel no sorrow or sympathy for her.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

No kidding.

Do what the teacher and the police tell you to do.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Hell, it wouldn't have even ended up with the police there if she had just done what she had been asked in the first place. I still don't feel sorry for her.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Um no. This is absurd. Being a pissy teenager isnt a criminal offense. Wow.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I did not say she should have been beaten. What I said is that when you are in class you are not supposed to be on your cell phone. Every kid in the world knows that. The teacher asked her to get off her cell phone and she refused. Over and over. Then they called the police in and she still refused. Do you not teach your children respect? He should have never laid a hand on her but she's a pissy little brat in that she refused to get off her phone. And if you read the story in full...

Both she and another student who verbally challenged the officer's actions during the arrest still face misdemeanor charges of disturbing schools, punishable by up to a $1,000 fine or 90 days in jail, Lott said, although in most cases, judges impose alternative sentences that keep students out of jail.

So yes, being a pissy teenager is against the law.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

So we are going to beat and body slam every pissy teenager? The cops will have no time to shoot and kill children and the elderly and the nentally ill.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

How on earth do we expect kids to behave if they think they don't have to follow the rules and have no consequences for their actions?

We rail about personal responsibility but then turn around and say you don't have to listen to authority.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

OMG!! DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW TO READ?? In every post I've posted I have said THE POLICEMAN SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT!! How much more clear do I need to get than that. He was wrong. I simply can't believe you are excusing this brat's behavior. She should have listened to her teacher in the first place. Do you teach your kids your kids that they can defy school rules and then not listen to the teachers? Do you tell them that if a police officer asks them to do something they don't have to listen? That's the damn problem in the freaking world today. Parents are teaching their kids that they don't have to follow rules or respect anyone.

If my kid did that with their cell phone they wouldn't have a cell phone. And no, I still don't feel sorry for this girl. If she had simply put her phone away when her teacher asked it never would have come to this.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

lilyofcourse wrote:
How on earth do we expect kids to behave if they think they don't have to follow the rules and have no consequences for their actions?

We rail about personal responsibility but then turn around and say you don't have to listen to authority.

OMG YES FREAKIN YES!

Little Suzie you don't have to mind your teacher or listen to your principal or the police. Then your kid is a criminal and you're blaming everyone else. THIS STARTS AT HOME!

Lindley · Guru

I do not feel sorry for this girl. She is going to have a rough life ahead of her if she doesn't shape up. The officer shouldn't have wrestled with her but I don't feel sorry for her.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lindley wrote:
I do not feel sorry for this girl. She is going to have a rough life ahead of her if she doesn't shape up. The officer shouldn't have wrestled with her but I don't feel sorry for her.

Thank you. She felt like she was above the rules. She is not. The policeman was wrong but so was the girl.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

He was fired. Obviuosly they felt that was overkill. I will support Police when they are right. I will not support turning this country into a police state.

Lindley · Guru

How should this situation with the girl be handled?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Yes. If this was your daughter and she was breaking school rules and defying both the teacher and a policeman would you side with her actions? Would you say she's perfectly right for breaking rules and usurping authority?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I don't think his actions were wrong.

She was disrupting class.

What should have been done?

I guess after she was told to put the phone up and refused he should have just shrugged his shoulders and went for a doughnut.

Why bother with rules and consequences at all?

Just let everyone do whatever they want.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I happen to think he was wrong for slamming her around. I do. But she's a pissy little brat. I don't feel sorry for her.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Yes. If this was your daughter and she was breaking school rules and defying both the teacher and a policeman would you side with her actions? Would you say she's perfectly right for breaking rules and usurping authority?

Who said the girl was right? Apparently you are saying this was the Only way this could be handled?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Yes. If this was your daughter and she was breaking school rules and defying both the teacher and a policeman would you side with her actions? Would you say she's perfectly right for breaking rules and usurping authority?
Who said the girl was right? Apparently you are saying this was the Only way this could be handled?

And again you can't read. I have said in EVERY. SINGLE. POST. that the policeman was wrong. Are you not able to read? He never should have laid hands on her. At least not like that.

But I can tell you, and I will tell you, that she is a product of parents who haven't taught her right from wrong. First mistake, using her phone in class. Second mistake, not putting it away when the teacher asked. Third mistake, not putting it away when the policeman came. The GIRL was responsible for this situation. SHE CAUSED IT. Teach your damn kids to behave. I have no sorrow for her. She's a pissy little brat that thinks she doesn't have to follow rules. If I were the principal I would have been in the class room told her her options. Get off the damn phone or you're expelled the rest of the year. Make the parents who created this brat deal with her.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

So you are saying this is the Only way this could have been handled?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
So you are saying this is the Only way this could have been handled?

So are you saying you teach your kids they don't have to follow rules or respect authority?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You seem to think slamming s teen to the ground for being pissy is the way to run the school. There are lots of ways to deal with pissy teens that dont involve cops body slamming them.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You seem to think slamming s teen to the ground for being pissy is the way to run the school. There are lots of ways to deal with pissy teens that dont involve cops body slamming them.

Apparently you are unable to comprehend a simple sentence. Maybe you spent too much time in school playing on your cell phone. Let me repeat what I have said in EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY POST I HAVE POSTED!! I HAVE REPEATEDLY SAID THE OFFICER SHOULD NOT HAVE TOUCHED HER!! ARE YOU UNABLE TO READ THIS??

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Having said that this was all brought on by her. Some people, apparently people like you, feel it's perfectly okay for kids to not follow rules and not respect authority. That's why we have the thugs and brats we have now.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Gaga. She said he was wrong to do it.

But you were asked how you thought it should be handled.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

lilyofcourse wrote:
Gaga. She said he was wrong to do it.

But you were asked how you thought it should be handled.

Good god. I'm glad you said something. I thought my typing was disappearing.

Gaga won't answer me about how she would handle it. Apparently she thinks this behavior is okay. And if I were the principal I would have called the parent and told them they had to come pick up their child immediately because they were expelled. If the parent refused then I'd call the cops. Parents need to take responsibility for their kids.

NAOW · Vette's SS

I wish he hadn't let go of her. That apparently is why he was fired. If he had held on to her and dragged her out of class and/or handcuffed her it would have been different. She refused to listen to the teacher, then someone else (principal, administrator?) was called in, she refused to obey them, then the officer was called in. She was testing boundaries and pushing the limits, I absolutely think she should have been dealt with harshly, but no, not thrown.

I don't feel sorry for her either, and screw all this talk about it being because she is black, because if that was me I can guarantee my parents would have.. I don't even know what they would have done, that's how bad it would be to act that way.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Thank you NAOW. This girl would not put her phone away when she knew the rules. Then she defied everyone. I don't condone the violence and this is bullchit about it being because she's black. It's because she's a pissy little thug brat who thinks she can do whatever she wants.

If I had pulled that crap growing up my mother would have broken my other arm. Now granted I had a crappy mother but I damn sure knew not to pull chit like that.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Here's a more detailed article. Notice the bolded.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/10/27/marc-eiglarsh-and-arthur-aidala-clash-kelly-file-over-violent-classroom-arrest-video

Mark Eiglarsh and Arthur Aidala got heated on "The Kelly File" tonight while debating a shocking cell phone video that shows a white police officer slamming a black female high school student to the ground and throwing her across the classroom floor.

Aidala said that any reasonable person who sees the video would agree that it's a case of excessive force and at least civil battery.

"This is a travesty," Aidala said.

Eiglarsh acknowledged that he doesn't endorse the officer's actions, but he pointed out that the student had caused a disturbance in the classroom, which is a misdemeanor in South Carolina. (Um, that means she committed a CRIME.)

He added that she also refused to leave the classroom, ignoring the teacher, the assistant principal and the law enforcement officer, before committing a felony by hitting the officer. (So she was given three chances and then committed a FELONY by HITTING a policeman.)

Aidala countered that any parent would be horrified and angered if their child was treated like that by an authority figure.

"It's disturbing to watch," Aidala stated.

Eiglarsh asserted that many people, including Aidala, are trying to make it a civil rights investigation because of the respective races of the student and officer.

"Is that all it takes now?" Eiglarsh asked. "With nothing additional, is that all it takes, Arthur?"

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

This poor little girl is just soooooooooooooo innocent.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Gaga. She said he was wrong to do it.

But you were asked how you thought it should be handled.

The same way they handle all pissy teens. Write ger up. Give her in school suspension. Or expel her.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

So just let her sit there defying the rules?

Disturbing class?

Defying the police?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

If I had pulled crap like that, I'd gotten a whipping, grounded for months and not telling what else.

Do we see the difference in how we were raised and how kids today are raised?

Do we see the results of all the coddling and hand holding?

We, general we, are creating these brats and then wondering what went wrong.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I think when you are at the point you are hitting a policeman you are past the write up point. She'd definitely be suspended. How do you suggest removing her nasty little pissy butt from the room though since we're not supposed to touch precious little princess?

You are correct Lily. We are creating brats and thugs and then we, general we, sit back and wonder why we have all these out of control kids.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I would love to know how old this girl is. She is in high school and already acting this way. Won't be long before she'll be in all kinds of trouble with the law. She's almost an adult. Good luck to Mommy who will have to bail her out of trouble time and again.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

And a little research shows that this girl is 18. She's a senior. So basically she's an adult. She's NOT a child. If she were to kill someone right now she'd be tried as an adult. So let's not make her a poor little baby. At 18 she SHOULD have enough sense not to pull this crap. And if she doesn't her parents have failed her miserably.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

If she had been outside the school and hit a policeman she would be IN JAIL right now. It would be felony assault and battery. And she would be charged as an adult and not a juvenile.

Yeah, I'm having a hard time working up sympathy for this 18 year old.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I can support the Police and not support everything they do. Sometimes they are wrong. And, they need to maintain the Public Trust or there WILL be disorder and chaos in the country when people no longer trust the authorities. Sometimes they are WRONG. Flat out wrong. And, if they are, they need to be held accountable and have better training to deal with situations.

As for the girl, yes she was a pissy brat. She should have been given the Punishment OUTLINED in the Policy manual on discipline that is part of the school code and policies. Which most likely would consist of dentention, in school suspension, removal of privileges such as being able to drive a car to school and/or expulsion, alternate Ed or cyber school. The school has multiple options laid out in it's Discipline plan and policy and procedures. But, nice to know I can just slam kids to the ground any time they are being DEFIANT. Like that is some strange, alien thing that has never happed to other teens.
But to start into your Hysteria that this means I somehow support out of control teens, you are just choosing to be melodramatic and absurd. Or, you can pretend to ignore my other 99,000 comments on personal responsibility and discipline when I don't happen to agree with you in ONE particular case. Carry on.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

If she had been outside the school and hit a policeman she would be IN JAIL right now. It would be felony assault and battery. And she would be charged as an adult and not a juvenile.

Yeah, I'm having a hard time working up sympathy for this 18 year old.

What evidence do you have that she hit the Police?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Again, when she continued to be disruptive and not follow the instructions of the teacher, principal and police, we're they just supposed to shrug their shoulders and walk out?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I can support the Police and not support everything they do. Sometimes they are wrong. And, they need to maintain the Public Trust or there WILL be disorder and chaos in the country when people no longer trust the authorities. Sometimes they are WRONG. Flat out wrong. And, if they are, they need to be held accountable and have better training to deal with situations.

As for the girl, yes she was a pissy brat. She should have been given the Punishment OUTLINED in the Policy manual on discipline that is part of the school code and policies. Which most likely would consist of dentention, in school suspension, removal of privileges such as being able to drive a car to school and/or expulsion, alternate Ed or cyber school. The school has multiple options laid out in it's Discipline plan and policy and procedures. But, nice to know I can just slam kids to the ground any time they are being DEFIANT. Like that is some strange, alien thing that has never happed to other teens.
But to start into your Hysteria that this means I somehow support out of control teens, you are just choosing to be melodramatic and absurd. Or, you can pretend to ignore my other 99,000 comments on personal responsibility and discipline when I don't happen to agree with you in ONE particular case. Carry on.

Sooo, if a student is being disruptive and refuses to listen to anyone or leave when told, what makes you think she's going to do anything else she is told? What makes you think she'll show up for detention, in school suspension, or not drive to school when told? And if she's expelled or suspended and refuses to leave school grounds, what then.

I'm actually going to say I don't think he should have been fired. You don't refuse to listen to teachers, school administrators or POLICE OFFICERS, and you don't HIT them (which is in the news report, BTW). Hell, people assaulting police officers get shot, she's lucky she only got a broken arm.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

The officer should have just shot her...

flan

burns07 · Guru

agree with LL--would not have fired the officer--our tax dollars go to providing an environment in which students who wish to obtain an education can do so--we don't pay taxes in order to babysit / tolerate the behavior of entitled hoodrats who disrupt that entire process for everyone else--schools are run / operated by adults to OUR standards/expectations not to those of entitled hoodrats--no exceptions--her parents are failures as she will no doubt be herself--aren't we all so lucky..........

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Yes, her parents (if they are still around) are failures, but the officer definitely should have been fired.

I'm guessing this is not the first incident with him.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Whenever something like this happens, it amazes me that the officer doesn't realize that his actions will be recorded.

flan

huskerbb · Guru

The teacher told the student several times to knock it off. A beating was deserved.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
The teacher told the student several times to knock it off. A beating was deserved.

Words vs. physical assault?

Wow...

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Yes, her parents (if they are still around) are failures, but the officer definitely should have been fired.

I'm guessing this is not the first incident with him.

flan

Why? She assaulted him and refused to follow an order from a police officer who was arresting her. There is NO excuse for her behavior.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Yes, her parents (if they are still around) are failures, but the officer definitely should have been fired.

I'm guessing this is not the first incident with him.

flan
Why? She assaulted him and refused to follow an order from a police officer who was arresting her. There is NO excuse for her behavior.

Okay, I read the OP again.

Both she and another student who verbally challenged the officer's actions during the arrest still face misdemeanor charges of disturbing schools...

If she physically assaulted him, I missed it.

Of course there is no excuse for her behavior, but the officer overreacted.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Yes, her parents (if they are still around) are failures, but the officer definitely should have been fired.

I'm guessing this is not the first incident with him.

flan
Why? She assaulted him and refused to follow an order from a police officer who was arresting her. There is NO excuse for her behavior.
Okay, I read the OP again.
Both she and another student who verbally challenged the officer's actions during the arrest still face misdemeanor charges of disturbing schools...
If she physically assaulted him, I missed it.
Of course there is no excuse for her behavior, but the officer overreacted.
flan

She did. There is another video. The article in the OP ignores it. If you click the link and watch the cheif's statement, it will tell you that there is video evidence of her punching him. The viral video here conveniently starts right when the officer responds. Talk about yellow journalism.

TOTALLY GEEKED!

Sheriff: South Carolina officer who dragged student has been fired