They can believe what they want to--but the state has a vested interest in seeing that children get an actual education and turn in to productive citizens.

Reading, writing, and arithmetic aren't against their beliefs--they just think they are unnecessary. They should lose. Hopefully they will.

I may be wrong, but I thought most states did require texting of home schooled children to meet state standards. Is Texas a state that does not require testing?

These parents are idiots.

I thought home schooling was very regulated. I guess not.

Ohfour wrote:

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This is a conservative issue. I see the family winning with this statement:

but now the case goes Monday to the all-Republican state Supreme Court.

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Maybe if the Republicans take the presidency and majority in both Houses, then they can abolish public schools completely. 

(Flame suit on, but I'm not sure I'll need it.)

 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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I don't know about every state.

But in Georgia home schooled kids have to take the same benchmark tests public schooled kids take.

There is a testing schedule. You go to a central location and the testing is under the supervision of a state licensed teacher/representative.

They have to take the CRCT too.

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Not here...

 

 

 

TENNESSEE

Compulsory Attendance Ages: "between six (6) years of age and seventeen (17) years of age, both inclusive." Tennessee Code Annotated § 49-6-3001(c)(1). A parent or guardian who believes that a child is not ready to attend school at age six may apply to the principal of the public school which the child would attend for a one semester or one year deferral in required attendance. § 49-6-3001(c)(5). Section 49-6-3001(c)(2) also exempts from the compulsory attendance law any child who has received a diploma or certificate of graduation from high school, is enrolled in an approved GED program or has received a GED certificate, or is enrolled in a home school and has reached the age of 17 years. The truancy laws of Tennessee are applicable to children and parents who enroll their child in a public school for more than six weeks, even though the child is less than six (6) years of age. § 49-6-3007(g).

Required Days of Instruction: 180 days. §§ 49-6-3004, 49-6-3050(b)(3), 49-50-801(d).

Required Subjects: None.

 

 

 

Home school parents have five options:

 

 

 

Option I: Home School Statute—Notify the Public School. § 49-6-3050. "A home school is a school conducted or directed by a parent or parents or legal guardian or guardians for their own children." Three of the five options fall under the home school statute.

1. Parents must submit a notice of intent to the local superintendent prior to each school year "for the purpose of reporting only." The notice of intent must include the names, number, ages and grade levels of children involved, location of the school, curriculum to be offered (no particular subjects required), the proposed hours of instruction, and the qualifications of the parent-teacher. § 49-6-3050(b)(1).

2. Parents must maintain attendance records, which are subject to inspection by the local superintendent. The records must be submitted to the superintendent at the end of each school year. § 49-6-3050(b)(2).

3. Instruction must be given 4 hours a day for the same number of days required for public schools. § 49-6-3050(b)(3).

4. Parents must submit proof of vaccination as required by § 49-6-5001 or "a signed, written statement that such immunization and other preventive measures conflict with the parent’s or guardian’s religious tenets and practices." §§ 49-6-3050(b)(9), -5001(b)(2). Tennessee

 

 

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Option II: Home School Statute—Associate With a Church-Related School. § 49-6-3050(a)(2)(A). "Home schools that teach kindergarten through grade twelve (K-12), where the parents are associated with and students are enrolled with a church-related school, as defined by § 49-50-801 ... are exempt" from the home school requirements above.

Option III: Home School Statute—Parent as Teacher in Church-Related School. § 49-6-3050(a)(3). "A parent-teacher may enroll the parent’s home school student or students in a church-related school as defined in § 49-50-801, and participate as a teacher in that church-related school. Such parent-teacher shall be subject to the requirements established by the church-related school for home school teachers and exempt from the rest of the provisions of this section."

Option IV: Alternative Statute—Operate as a Satellite Campus of a Church-Related School. § 49-50-801. Parents may have their children attend a church-related school where the home is a satellite or extension of the church-related school. Unlike Options II and III, students in a satellite campus program are not considered home schoolers. Furthermore, parents need not comply with the notice, teacher qualifications, and standardized test requirements for home schools. The Tennessee Department of Education recognized this option in a memorandum from the Commissioner of Education to superintendents and directors of schools dated February 18, 1999.

Option V: Alternative Statute—Enroll in the Distance Learning Program of an Accredited Private School. § 49-6-3001(c)(3)(A)(iii). Parents may enroll their children in an online, Category III non-public school accredited by one of the six regional accrediting associations (e.g., the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools) "according to the procedures and criteria established by the association." 0520-7-2-.04 Rules of State Board of Education.

Teacher Qualifications: Option I: The parent-teacher must have a high school diploma or a GED.

Option II: If parents conducting a home school are associated with a church-related school, there are no qualifications for teaching grades K-8, but parents must have a high school diploma or GED to teach grades 9-12. § 49-6-3050(a)(2)(B).

Option III: Qualifications determined by the school in which the child is enrolled.

Option IV: No qualifications required by statute.

Option V: Qualifications determined by the school in which the child is enrolled.

Standardized Tests: Option I: Grades 5, 7 and 9 must take a standardized test administered by the commissioner of education or someone designated by him or by a professional testing service approved by the local education agency. Tests administered by the Commissioner must be without charge. The parent may be present when the home school student is in grade 5. § 49-6-3050(b)(5)(A-B). If a home school child "falls six (6) to nine (9) months behind his appropriate grade level in his reading, language arts, mathematics or science test scores," the parent must "consult with a teacher licensed by the state. The parent and teacher shall design a remedial course." § 49-6-3050(b)(6)(B). Tennessee

 

 

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Option II: Church-related schools must "administer or offer standardized achievement tests," but no particular grade levels for testing are specified in the law. § 49-6-3050(a)(2)(A).

Option III: No testing required by statute.

Option IV: No testing required by statute.

Option V: No testing required by statute.

Religious Freedom Law: Tenn. Code Ann. § 4-1-407 (2009 House Bill 1598, effective July 1, 2009).

 

 

 

 

The Amish home school so why can't I? And, most of them drop out in 8th grade and nobody is freaking out about that? Sorry you can't have different sets of rules for everyone. However, I will say there are 2 types of home schoolers generally. The extremely motivated and the extremely lazy. The Amish seem to be very organized in what they do. And, the extremely motivated types tend to really do a good job. The other end is the extremely lazy, the moms who are so lazy that they don't want to even get their fat arses out of bed to get their kids to a bus stop. DH and I were house hunting and one time I went to look at a home during the school day around 1000 or 1100 and the fat, lazy mom was there, her house was a mess and her fat lazy kid was laying in the couch in the basement playing with his x box. I said 'oh no school today' and she said 'oh he is homeschooled". There was even dog poop on the carpet in the basement. If you can't even clean your house to show it for a potential sale, then you really are a lazy moron.

I don't know about other states, but in Georgia a child is only required to do 4 hours of school a day.

It doesn't have to be all at once. It can happen at any time during the day or night.

So the normally accepted school hours are not the norm for home schooling.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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Of course, the question arises - what about the kids that go to school and still can't pass the tests? If we are going to hold parents to that standard - what happens to the schools that can't meet it?

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 This actually happened.  There is a school district near me and they failed the federal testing policy for standardized tests.  It's a huge deal because they can now lose federal funding.  The area is already low income and the teachers from there buy most of their own supplies.  It's been on the news.  They shut the school down for three days to regroup.  No idea what they are going to do now.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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Of course, the question arises - what about the kids that go to school and still can't pass the tests? If we are going to hold parents to that standard - what happens to the schools that can't meet it?

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 But we know at least WHAT the schools are teaching--even if some aren't Good at it.

 

 

huskerbb wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Of course, the question arises - what about the kids that go to school and still can't pass the tests? If we are going to hold parents to that standard - what happens to the schools that can't meet it?

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 But we know at least WHAT the schools are teaching--even if some aren't Good at it.

 

 

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 Not really.  Have you seen common core?

Not necessarily. There are many different curriculums you can use for home-schooling. You don't have to use common core. In fact, many legitimate home-schoolers do so specifically to avoid common core.

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Legitimate home-schoolers is an oxymoron

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 No.  My old nieghbor homeschools.  She's a certified teacher and all her children test levels beyond their age group.

When you have crappy schools, home schooling is often a better option. Especially in this day and age with No Child Left Behind, Common Core, and now - boys getting to use the girl's locker rooms. Yeah - home-schooling is getting to be a better and better option.

Lindley wrote:

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I heard colleges are seeking out kids who were home schooled.

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Colleges are seeking out anybody that will sign a check to pay tuition, lol.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Lindley wrote:

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I heard colleges are seeking out kids who were home schooled.

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Colleges are seeking out anybody that will sign a check to pay tuition, lol.

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 As I said above, my boss's kids got 100% free rides. They even paid for them to stay in the academic dorms...

Can he adopt my kids temporarily? Kind of like the Sister wives? Lol

huskerbb wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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 No.  My old nieghbor homeschools.  She's a certified teacher and all her children test levels beyond their age group.

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 And they grow up to be a bunch of weirdos.

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Well, that is true to some extent too. I have seen that as well, lol.

huskerbb wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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 No.  My old nieghbor homeschools.  She's a certified teacher and all her children test levels beyond their age group.

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 And they grow up to be a bunch of weirdos.

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 Nope.  They are all friendly, well adjusted children.  They do sports, they attend church, and they have activities with other home-schooled children.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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 No.  My old nieghbor homeschools.  She's a certified teacher and all her children test levels beyond their age group.

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 And they grow up to be a bunch of weirdos.

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 Nope.  They are all friendly, well adjusted children.  They do sports, they attend church, and they have activities with other home-schooled children.

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Home schooling has changed so much now that the kids are just as social as a public school child.  The program my dd is looking into they will be with other children for some classes and my dil's mother  worked with the school and enlisted her in sports and other activities and she is very well adjusted and outgoing and has a lot of friends all over.  The ones who are useally weird are ones who parents hide them from the rest of the world.   Believe me a lot of weird people come out of public schools too. 

Lawyerlady wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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 No.  My old nieghbor homeschools.  She's a certified teacher and all her children test levels beyond their age group.

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 And they grow up to be a bunch of weirdos.

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 Nope.  They are all friendly, well adjusted children.  They do sports, they attend church, and they have activities with other home-schooled children.

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 Activities with other weirdos.  Keep the weirdos in groups.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Legitimate home-schoolers is an oxymoron

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 No.  My old nieghbor homeschools.  She's a certified teacher and all her children test levels beyond their age group.

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 And they grow up to be a bunch of weirdos.

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 Nope.  They are all friendly, well adjusted children.  They do sports, they attend church, and they have activities with other home-schooled children.

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 Activities with other weirdos.  Keep the weirdos in groups.

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 Wierd is subjective. 

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 But it's like p0rn.  You know it when you see it.

huskerbb wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Of course, the question arises - what about the kids that go to school and still can't pass the tests? If we are going to hold parents to that standard - what happens to the schools that can't meet it?

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 But we know at least WHAT the schools are teaching--even if some aren't Good at it.

 

 

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 No you dont.

You have a general idea but that's about it.

 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Jesse's mythology class is just watching movies and TV shows.

They watched 3 or 4 episodes of Star Wars and now they are watching Supernatural.

The teacher is calling it "tracing origins" or something like that.

Great. Wonderful.

Jesse went as Hades for Halloween.

The teacher didn't get it.

When I took mythology we learned about mythology.

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 DD11 went as a Musketeer for book character day, with the tunic and everything.  Nobody knew what she was except her PE coach.  Not even the English teacher.  That's just sad.  And her costume is from Museum Replicas, not some cheapie from the costume store.

 

Not all kiss who learn at home grow into crazies. Plenty of us, like me, do just fine.
The most socially awkward people I ever met went to public school.