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Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

RE: 12 y.o. granddaughter with sticky fingers

TrudyML · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't get the point of expensive makeup. Or purses that cost a fortune. Seems kind of silly to me.

Get Bobbi Brown. Good stuff, not Chanel. Chanel is fab but not cheap.

Mary Zombie · Guru

msrock wrote:
Um, you walk off with my makeup? That is theft. I would be pissed. My makeup and hair products are expensive. I wouldn't mind if she used them while visiting, but taking them home with her? No. If you like them, tell me and maybe I will buy you your own as a gift.

Ditto.

I wouldbe pizzed off if I ddnt have my makeup when I need it...or my hair stuff.

Its Not ok to just take it.

msrock · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't get the point of expensive makeup. Or purses that cost a fortune. Seems kind of silly to me.
The fact you don't value it doesn't mean others don't. And stealing is stealing, whether it's a $1 tube of Lipgloss or a $100 purse.

This is so true. To each their own. Doesn't make either one of us bad people.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

I wonder if husker would mind if one of his nephews came in and walked off with a bunch of his tools and never returned them?

msrock · Guru

I'm only mildly obsessed with makeup, ok? I look at it like I do art. lol.

msrock · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I wonder if husker would mind if one of his nephews came in and walked off with a bunch of his tools and never returned them?

No kidding! Good comparison... because make-up is definitely a tool. biggrin

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

I have very sensitive skin. I have to buy good make-up and I have to replace it regularly. Don't TOUCH my make-up.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I wonder if husker would mind if one of his nephews came in and walked off with a bunch of his tools and never returned them?

Kids lose tools all the time.

But, tools are not a consumable, either. I wouldn't care if they took the nails or screws.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't get the point of expensive makeup. Or purses that cost a fortune. Seems kind of silly to me.
The fact you don't value it doesn't mean others don't. And stealing is stealing, whether it's a $1 tube of Lipgloss or a $100 purse.

The fact that you do value it doesn't mean everyone has to.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

There seems to be an "it's not a big deal" mentality here.

Don't care about lying to get into Disney.

Doesn't matter about stealing because it has no value.

What this tells me is that lying and stealing are ok in some people's thinking.

Mary Zombie · Guru

I don't think using the makeup is an issue but I can't believe anyone would be ok finding their makeup missing when u need it.
Everything of our parents is not ours for the taking. I knew that as a kid.
People are allowed to have their own personal stuff.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

msrock wrote:
I'm only mildly obsessed with makeup, ok? I look at it like I do art. lol.

That's ok. It's yer thing. I pay too much money for other stuff people might not value as well.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Mary Zombie wrote:
I don't think using the makeup is an issue but I can't believe anyone would be ok finding their makeup missing when u need it.
Everything of our parents is not ours for the taking. I knew that as a kid.
People are allowed to have their own personal stuff.

msrock · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
msrock wrote:
I'm only mildly obsessed with makeup, ok? I look at it like I do art. lol.
That's ok. It's yer thing. I pay too much money for other stuff people might not value as well.

Of course you do! And I do as well... wink

chef · Guru

I would be perturbed at anyone taking something of mine without telling me. Food/drinks are an exception because my friends and family know my rule: If you use the last of something, tell me so I can replace it.

-- Edited by chef on Tuesday 3rd of November 2015 10:12:46 PM

Tangerine · Guru

I really don't understand why anyone would think it was okay for the granddaughter to take these items home without permission.
It is "just makeup", but it is also something that the grandmother uses regularly and purchased for herself.
It's a rather personal item and can be rather expensive.

When is it ever okay to take something from someone's home without telling them?

Guests in my home don't help themselves to the contents of the fridge without asking first. I usually tell them to have whatever they want, but my reaction would be different if they asked to rummage through my medicine cabinet.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Dammit. Crossing off visit to Tangerine's house...

Tangerine · Guru

I knew it. You just want my Urban Decay eyeshadows!

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't get the point of expensive makeup. Or purses that cost a fortune. Seems kind of silly to me.
The fact you don't value it doesn't mean others don't. And stealing is stealing, whether it's a $1 tube of Lipgloss or a $100 purse.
The fact that you do value it doesn't mean everyone has to.

The value doesn't matter. STEALING it is what matters.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Tangerine wrote:
I knew it. You just want my Urban Decay eyeshadows!

Sigh, you found me out! biggrin

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't get the point of expensive makeup. Or purses that cost a fortune. Seems kind of silly to me.
The fact you don't value it doesn't mean others don't. And stealing is stealing, whether it's a $1 tube of Lipgloss or a $100 purse.
The fact that you do value it doesn't mean everyone has to.
The value doesn't matter. STEALING it is what matters.

I would guess a pack of gum isn't "worth" much either but I bet if security in a store caught you stealing it you'd be in pretty big trouble.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't get the point of expensive makeup. Or purses that cost a fortune. Seems kind of silly to me.
The fact you don't value it doesn't mean others don't. And stealing is stealing, whether it's a $1 tube of Lipgloss or a $100 purse.
The fact that you do value it doesn't mean everyone has to.
The value doesn't matter. STEALING it is what matters.

I agree.

Doesn't matter if it is a tube of chap stick or a truck.

Taking anything that doesn't belong to you without permission is stealing.

And that whole soda business, when you say "help yourself", that's permission to take a soda.

It doesn't apply to anything else.

Or next thing you know, someone will be reaching in your pocket for your wallet.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't get the point of expensive makeup. Or purses that cost a fortune. Seems kind of silly to me.
The fact you don't value it doesn't mean others don't. And stealing is stealing, whether it's a $1 tube of Lipgloss or a $100 purse.
The fact that you do value it doesn't mean everyone has to.
The value doesn't matter. STEALING it is what matters.
I would guess a pack of gum isn't "worth" much either but I bet if security in a store caught you stealing it you'd be in pretty big trouble.

If it's in a store--yeah. If it's in grandma's purse. No.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't get the point of expensive makeup. Or purses that cost a fortune. Seems kind of silly to me.
The fact you don't value it doesn't mean others don't. And stealing is stealing, whether it's a $1 tube of Lipgloss or a $100 purse.
The fact that you do value it doesn't mean everyone has to.
The value doesn't matter. STEALING it is what matters.

Again, are you going to accuse your grandchild of stealing a cookie out of your cookie jar?

Not everyone has to consider it stealing. If you want to flip the fvck out over nonsense like that--go right ahead.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Ok Husker.

You notice a couple bucks missing from your wallet.

It happens again.

And then a third time.

It's just a couple bucks.

Big deal.

Right?

Tangerine · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't get the point of expensive makeup. Or purses that cost a fortune. Seems kind of silly to me.
The fact you don't value it doesn't mean others don't. And stealing is stealing, whether it's a $1 tube of Lipgloss or a $100 purse.
The fact that you do value it doesn't mean everyone has to.
The value doesn't matter. STEALING it is what matters.
Again, are you going to accuse your grandchild of stealing a cookie out of your cookie jar?
Not everyone has to consider it stealing. If you want to flip the fvck out over nonsense like that--go right ahead.

Bunny helps himself to the cookie jar at grandmas house. He knows that he is allowed.

He doesn't pocket things that he likes to take them home, because that is not allowed.

Theres a difference.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Ok Husker.

You notice a couple bucks missing from your wallet.

It happens again.

And then a third time.

It's just a couple bucks.

Big deal.

Right?

I already said there was a difference if it were money--although I wouldn't worry about a couple of dollars.

huskerbb · Guru

Tangerine wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't get the point of expensive makeup. Or purses that cost a fortune. Seems kind of silly to me.
The fact you don't value it doesn't mean others don't. And stealing is stealing, whether it's a $1 tube of Lipgloss or a $100 purse.
The fact that you do value it doesn't mean everyone has to.
The value doesn't matter. STEALING it is what matters.
Again, are you going to accuse your grandchild of stealing a cookie out of your cookie jar?
Not everyone has to consider it stealing. If you want to flip the fvck out over nonsense like that--go right ahead.
Bunny helps himself to the cookie jar at grandmas house. He knows that he is allowed.
He doesn't pocket things that he likes to take them home, because that is not allowed.
Theres a difference.

Then teach the difference if it matters that much to you--don't get all on the high horse and b!tch about "stealing" if you haven't done that.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Ok Husker.

You notice a couple bucks missing from your wallet.

It happens again.

And then a third time.

It's just a couple bucks.

Big deal.

Right?
I already said there was a difference if it were money--although I wouldn't worry about a couple of dollars.

But it isn't just a couple dollars one time.

It's a couple dollars every visit.

And honestly, I call BS on this attitude of yours toward stealing.

You huff and puff too much about entitlement.

If someone was stealing from you, you'd be pissed.

Period.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Ok Husker.

You notice a couple bucks missing from your wallet.

It happens again.

And then a third time.

It's just a couple bucks.

Big deal.

Right?
I already said there was a difference if it were money--although I wouldn't worry about a couple of dollars.
But it isn't just a couple dollars one time.
It's a couple dollars every visit.

And honestly, I call BS on this attitude of yours toward stealing.
You huff and puff too much about entitlement.
If someone was stealing from you, you'd be pissed.
Period.

Again, I wouldn't consider taking a soda out of the fridge "stealing". Heck, I have people come in to my house and help themselves to beer all the time.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And we are not talking about things you have given permission to take.

So, BS.

If you found someone going into closet you would be pissed.

If you found someone took your lawn mower, you'd be pissed.

If you found someone took money from your wallet, you'd be pissed.

Tangerine · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tangerine wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't get the point of expensive makeup. Or purses that cost a fortune. Seems kind of silly to me.
The fact you don't value it doesn't mean others don't. And stealing is stealing, whether it's a $1 tube of Lipgloss or a $100 purse.
The fact that you do value it doesn't mean everyone has to.
The value doesn't matter. STEALING it is what matters.
Again, are you going to accuse your grandchild of stealing a cookie out of your cookie jar?
Not everyone has to consider it stealing. If you want to flip the fvck out over nonsense like that--go right ahead.
Bunny helps himself to the cookie jar at grandmas house. He knows that he is allowed.
He doesn't pocket things that he likes to take them home, because that is not allowed.
Theres a difference.
Then teach the difference if it matters that much to you--don't get all on the high horse and b!tch about "stealing" if you haven't done that.

Whaaat?? I have taught him the difference. Probably the original LW's children taught his/her daughter the difference as well.

Sometimes children make mistakes and need to be corrected. I think this grandmother should address the issue of missing items with her grandaughter and her parents.

huskerbb · Guru

Tangerine wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tangerine wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I don't get the point of expensive makeup. Or purses that cost a fortune. Seems kind of silly to me.
The fact you don't value it doesn't mean others don't. And stealing is stealing, whether it's a $1 tube of Lipgloss or a $100 purse.
The fact that you do value it doesn't mean everyone has to.
The value doesn't matter. STEALING it is what matters.
Again, are you going to accuse your grandchild of stealing a cookie out of your cookie jar?
Not everyone has to consider it stealing. If you want to flip the fvck out over nonsense like that--go right ahead.
Bunny helps himself to the cookie jar at grandmas house. He knows that he is allowed.
He doesn't pocket things that he likes to take them home, because that is not allowed.
Theres a difference.
Then teach the difference if it matters that much to you--don't get all on the high horse and b!tch about "stealing" if you haven't done that.
Whaaat?? I have taught him the difference. Probably the original LW's children taught his/her daughter the difference as well.
Sometimes children make mistakes and need to be corrected. I think this grandmother should address the issue of missing items with her grandaughter and her parents.

I was talking about the LW.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
And we are not talking about things you have given permission to take.

So, BS.

If you found someone going into closet you would be pissed.

If you found someone took your lawn mower, you'd be pissed.

If you found someone took money from your wallet, you'd be pissed.

???? My son has had my lawnmower all summer. Heck, I've had my mom's push mower all summer.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

So what you are saying is taking something without permission is ok.

It isn't stealing, ever.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
So what you are saying is taking something without permission is ok.

It isn't stealing, ever.

Show me where I said that. I didn't.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Well yeah. You have.

Maybe not in those exact words.

But taking makeup without permission isn't stealing according to you.

Taking money out of your wallet without permission isn't stealing to you.

Apparently taking anything, without permission is perfectly ok in your book.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

What about taking Jimmy Dean sausage into the Wal-Mart bathroom?

Divine Geek · Guru

I think the LW should just talk to the granddaughter. Tell her she would like her to ask before borrowing something.

I must share a slightly different perspective, in my family, you really don't have to ask express permission to borrow most things. I could walk into my grandparents house (whether they were home or not) and take pretty much whatever I needed - if it was a consumable, I would usually replace it soon after. There were plenty of times I would return whatever I had taken and grandma hadn't even noticed it was gone. I've taken one of my parents' cars without asking first. Our neighbors have let themselves into our garage to get a tool they need. It's just how we roll.

It's about setting the boundaries you are comfortable with.

chef · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
What about taking Jimmy Dean sausage into the Wal-Mart bathroom?

Depends if it's on clearance or not ...

Bonus points if the handicap stall and an electric cart are involved ...

Tinydancer · Guru

So if your grandkid came in and took home your expensive new tool you bought for yourself you'd be good with that husker? Sometimes you say the stupidest things just so you can argue.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Well yeah. You have.

Maybe not in those exact words.

But taking makeup without permission isn't stealing according to you.

Taking money out of your wallet without permission isn't stealing to you.

Apparently taking anything, without permission is perfectly ok in your book.

No. Not what I said. First of all, in one of my first posts on his thread i clearly said that taking a money out of someone's purse was a different situationa. Try READING.

Second, I gave specific examples of consumable products between specific people who have a specific relationship.

Again, try reading what is written, not what you think you want it to say.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Wednesday 4th of November 2015 03:05:08 PM

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I did read.

You think because YOU don't value it, it doesn't matter.

So. I call BS.

Stealing, taking ANYTHING WITHOUT PERMISSION, is stealing.

Doesn't matter what it is.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And you are comparing apples to oranges and you know it.

Nice strawman though.

Ohfour · Hooker

My foundation is about $80 a bottle and blended to match MY skin tone.

My hair products are almost as much and are purchased to tame MY hair type.

You bet your ass I would be mad if either went missing. Plus, I usually don't have extra laying around.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
I did read.

You think because YOU don't value it, it doesn't matter.

So. I call BS.

Stealing, taking ANYTHING WITHOUT PERMISSION, is stealing.

Doesn't matter what it is.

You think because you value it--everyone should. I would not consider that stealing, and I'm notbthe only one on this thread who said that.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

It's not about what it is. It is about the taking without permission. You don't teach children that taking things that don't belong to them is ok.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I did read.

You think because YOU don't value it, it doesn't matter.

So. I call BS.

Stealing, taking ANYTHING WITHOUT PERMISSION, is stealing.

Doesn't matter what it is.

You think because you value it--everyone should. I would not consider that stealing, and I'm notbthe only one on this thread who said that.

I don't have a bit of use for cattle feed.

So if that is stolen, oh well.

I don't drink, don't value it, so if some one takes it, so be it.

Do you really not understand it isn't WHAT is being taken?

Basically you are saying stealing is ok.

Ok. Good to know.

Tinydancer · Guru

husker just likes to argue even if he doesn't have a leg to stand on. husker you didn't answer my question about your grandkid taking your brand new expensive tool home and how you'd feel about that. You'll come up with some b*llcht now and change the argument to something new...lol