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I used to do corners like that. Now that I've had two knee surgeries they say do not tuck like that. I actually keep a pillow between the end of my mattress and the footboard to keep the weight of the covers off my feet.

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Can I just say that ending the evening with a roaring fire iss the best? even if my thumb still throbs?

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Thanks, Lindley! off to bed soon. Hopefully tomorrow my hand will be normal!

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Um DN's b/f just called and asked us to dinner tomorrow...

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Um DN's b/f just called and asked us to dinner tomorrow...


 How sweet.



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Um DN's b/f just called and asked us to dinner tomorrow...


 How sweet.


 I asked her if there was something we needed to know but she said no.  Darn!



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I am making BBQ pulled pork and mashed potatoes with corn for dinner tomorrow for the girls. How many pounds of potatoes would you make for 20 teenage athletes post game? I bought 20 lbs. I am not sure I want to peel them all though - so how many would you guesstimate?

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I am making BBQ pulled pork and mashed potatoes with corn for dinner tomorrow for the girls. How many pounds of potatoes would you make for 20 teenage athletes post game? I bought 20 lbs. I am not sure I want to peel them all though - so how many would you guesstimate?


 I would do the 20 pounds.  We don't peel our potatoes to make mashed potatoes.  DH doesn't like them peeled.  We just cube them before we boiled them and then mash them.  The bits of peel are very small.



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Mellow Momma wrote:

I am making BBQ pulled pork and mashed potatoes with corn for dinner tomorrow for the girls. How many pounds of potatoes would you make for 20 teenage athletes post game? I bought 20 lbs. I am not sure I want to peel them all though - so how many would you guesstimate?


 I would do the 20 pounds.  We don't peel our potatoes to make mashed potatoes.  DH doesn't like them peeled.  We just cube them before we boiled them and then mash them.  The bits of peel are very small.


Oh my gosh, 20 pounds would feed 50 or 60 people!

I'd scale that back a bit, MM.

Ten pounds will still leave you with a bunch of leftovers.biggrin 



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2 lbs feed 5. I'd scale it back a bit.

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2 lbs feed 5. I'd scale it back a bit.


 I make 5 lbs to feed 5 people and we only have minimal left overs. That's 5 athletes with big appetites and I will be feeding 20 athletes.

I can't make 2 lbs to feed our 4 at home. My DD can eat that much alone! Lol She is a mashed potato glutton.



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I just read an article that said 2 potatoes per person. I will have to see how that translates to pounds. And also not sure if that will take into consideration their big appetites. When they do post games pizza, they almost have to get 1 large pizza for every 2 girls. So we are talking about big appetites.

Potatoes are on the dirty dozen list so I definitely will peel them.

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Gosh MM, maybe you will need all 20 pounds, after all!

Better start peeling!wink



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Gosh MM, maybe you will need all 20 pounds, after all!

Better start peeling!wink


 Want to come help?! I have an extra peeler !



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Gosh MM, maybe you will need all 20 pounds, after all!

Better start peeling!wink


 Want to come help?! I have an extra peeler !


Well darn, we're headed to the zoo in a little bit.

Sorry!wink 



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 How sweet.


 I asked her if there was something we needed to know but she said no.  Darn!


 I was thinking  the same thing you were



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Mellow Momma wrote:

I am making BBQ pulled pork and mashed potatoes with corn for dinner tomorrow for the girls. How many pounds of potatoes would you make for 20 teenage athletes post game? I bought 20 lbs. I am not sure I want to peel them all though - so how many would you guesstimate?


 One potato per person.

You will have plenty and very little, if any, leftovers.

Pierce the skins, microwave them 4-5 at at time for about 9 minutes.

Keep them in an almost sealed container until they are all done.

Smash with butter, cream and seasoning.

No pealing, no mess.



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I won't serve potatoes with the skins. Potatoes are on the dirty dozen list and should never be eaten with the skins unless you buy them organic. They have the most pesticide residue in them of any other veg.

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I won't serve potatoes with the skins. Potatoes are on the dirty dozen list and should never be eaten with the skins unless you buy them organic. They have the most pesticide residue in them of any other veg.


 I didn't know that. Good thing I almost never eat them.

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Google dirty dozen vegetables. You should never ever eat the skin of those veggies and organic is preferred. The flip side is the clean 15. Those veg are pretty clean no matter what, so looking for organic isn't as big of a deal. The list is helpful if you are on a budget and can only buy certain items organic - you know how to prioritize your dollars.

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Then peal them.

I wash the potatoes.

You can use bleach to wash hard vegetables.

A teaspoon to a gallon of water.

You can get test strips at most restaurant supply stores.

It has an easy to follow color code on it.



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Yeah...if I don't want pesticides on my vegetable what makes you think I want BLEACH on them?!?! Wow.

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If you simmer the potatoes (unpeeled) in salted water, when they are cooked and slightly cooled, you can remove the skins by rubbing them with (clean) gardening gloves. The peels just slip off. Or you can use a clean plastic scrubbie to remove the peels.

20# of potatoes is just about right for 20 teenage appetites.



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Yeah...if I don't want pesticides on my vegetable what makes you think I want BLEACH on them?!?! Wow.


 You do realize that bleach is used in washing vegetables in practically every processing plant and restaurant right?

Do you use tap water to wash your vegetables?  

There is bleach in that too.

 

 



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Momala wrote:

If you simmer the potatoes (unpeeled) in salted water, when they are cooked and slightly cooled, you can remove the skins by rubbing them with (clean) gardening gloves. The peels just slip off. Or you can use a clean plastic scrubbie to remove the peels.

20# of potatoes is just about right for 20 teenage appetites.


 You can scrub the peels off them while washing too.

I hate peeling potatoes. 

 



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Chlorine Bleach For Sanitizing Raw Fruits And Vegetables

In addition to sanitizing food contact surfaces, chlorine bleach solutions may be used for sanitizing raw fruits and vegetables during the washing or peeling process.

We occasionally hear of salmonella contamination of raw fruits and vegetables causing gastrointestinal illnesses. It’s not that hard to imagine how it could happen…

When buying fruits and vegetables at the grocery store, it is often unknown where the produce has specifically come from, under what sanitary (or lack thereof) conditions, who picked it, processed it, how was it handled, was it kept clean during distribution, how many people have picked up the produce and put it back down on the grocery store shelf, were their hands dirty…

Here’s one way to assure that your raw fruits and vegetables are sanitized:


 
Federal regulations permit the use of sodium hypochlorite (chlorine bleach) in washing produce (21 CFR Part 173).

The conditions:

The concentration of sanitizer in the wash water must not exceed 2000 ppm hypochlorite.

The produce must be rinsed with potable water following the chlorine treatment.

 
Having said that, most sanitizing operations, unless the produce is very dirty, will not need a sanitizer concentration greater than 200 ppm total chlorine to achieve the desired sanitizing effect – provided contact times of one minute or greater (typically sufficient to achieve a thorough kill).

 

How To Make A Chlorine Bleach & Water Solution To Sanitize Raw Fruits And Vegetables

2 teaspoons Regular Bleach (8.25% sodium hypochlorite)
1 Gallon of clean water

This will result in a 200 ppm (parts per million) chlorine solution.

Let fruit or vegetables stand in solution for at least one minute.
Then rinse with tap water or potable water.

 
Note: Use Regular bleach (no additives) with sodium hypochlorite as the active ingredient. Today’s RegularClorox bleach is ‘concentrated’ at 8.25% sodium hypochlorite. If you are using Regular bleach of 5 – 6.25% sodium hypochlorite (read the label), then use 1 Tablespoon per gallon to achieve a 200 ppm sanitizing solution.

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Oklahoma Cooperative Extension Service
– Division of Agricultural Sciences and Natural Resources

U.S. Food and Drug Administration



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If you don't already have one, invest in a "U" shaped peeler, rather than a straight stick one. The straight stick peeler requires you to grasp it with 4 fingers, and exert pressure with your wrist.

The "U" peeler (with the blade between the 2 upright posts) allows you to hold the potato in one hand and use your thumb and forefinger to slide the peeler over the potato, exerting almost no pressure. They usually cost under $5.



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When my son was a teen and playing hockey, he could easily eat 5 big potatoes all by himself.

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Yeah...if I don't want pesticides on my vegetable what makes you think I want BLEACH on them?!?! Wow.


 You do realize that bleach is used in washing vegetables in practically every processing plant and restaurant right?

Do you use tap water to wash your vegetables?  

There is bleach in that too.

 

 


 I don't eat veg that has been treated like that. I eat organic so it has NOT been. 



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If you don't already have one, invest in a "U" shaped peeler, rather than a straight stick one. The straight stick peeler requires you to grasp it with 4 fingers, and exert pressure with your wrist.

The "U" peeler (with the blade between the 2 upright posts) allows you to hold the potato in one hand and use your thumb and forefinger to slide the peeler over the potato, exerting almost no pressure. They usually cost under $5.


 I will look for one immediately! Thanks for the tip!



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hmmm, u shaped peeler sounds like a great add to a SS gift!

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Yeah...if I don't want pesticides on my vegetable what makes you think I want BLEACH on them?!?! Wow.


 You do realize that bleach is used in washing vegetables in practically every processing plant and restaurant right?

Do you use tap water to wash your vegetables?  

There is bleach in that too.

 

 


 I don't eat veg that has been treated like that. I eat organic so it has NOT been. 


 Yeah. Right.

You never eat out? 

 



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Yeah...if I don't want pesticides on my vegetable what makes you think I want BLEACH on them?!?! Wow.


 You do realize that bleach is used in washing vegetables in practically every processing plant and restaurant right?

Do you use tap water to wash your vegetables?  

There is bleach in that too.

 

 


 I don't eat veg that has been treated like that. I eat organic so it has NOT been. 


 Yeah. Right.

You never eat out? 

 


 There is a big difference between eating out once in a while and eating it every day.  You do what you can to avoid as much bad things as you can - you don't just not something when you have control of it because of the times you don't.  That is the stupidest damn argument ever.



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Then use vinegar.

My point is, some form of wash has occurred to those precious organic vegetables and it usually contains some type of bleach product.



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Mellow Momma wrote:
Momala wrote:

If you don't already have one, invest in a "U" shaped peeler, rather than a straight stick one. The straight stick peeler requires you to grasp it with 4 fingers, and exert pressure with your wrist.

The "U" peeler (with the blade between the 2 upright posts) allows you to hold the potato in one hand and use your thumb and forefinger to slide the peeler over the potato, exerting almost no pressure. They usually cost under $5.


 I will look for one immediately! Thanks for the tip!


 Just bought one of those the other day!



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Then use vinegar.

My point is, some form of wash has occurred to those precious organic vegetables and it usually contains some type of bleach product.


 You need to educate yourself on what the term organic means. The USDA Certified Organic label is not easy, nor cheap to come by. 

I won't bathe my dinner in bleach because twice a month when I eat out I don't know where the produce is from. That's the most asinine thing I have ever heard. 



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Then use vinegar.

My point is, some form of wash has occurred to those precious organic vegetables and it usually contains some type of bleach product.


 You need to educate yourself on what the term organic means. The USDA Certified Organic label is not easy, nor cheap to come by. 

I won't bathe my dinner in bleach because twice a month when I eat out I don't know where the produce is from. That's the most asinine thing I have ever heard. 


 Oh. I am educated. 

I also don't depend on a label.

That produced gets washed when it comes out of the field.

It gets washed when it is processed.

It gets washed when it is bundled.

And all that washing has some type of chlorine in it. 

 

 



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And I said you can use vinegar as well.



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Then use vinegar.

My point is, some form of wash has occurred to those precious organic vegetables and it usually contains some type of bleach product.


 You need to educate yourself on what the term organic means. The USDA Certified Organic label is not easy, nor cheap to come by. 

I won't bathe my dinner in bleach because twice a month when I eat out I don't know where the produce is from. That's the most asinine thing I have ever heard. 


 Oh. I am educated. 

I also don't depend on a label.

That produced gets washed when it comes out of the field.

It gets washed when it is processed.

It gets washed when it is bundled.

And all that washing has some type of chlorine in it. 

 

 


 I don't think you are educated on organic and what exactly that means. It doesn't mean a bleach bath I can tell you that. 



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Oh. I know what it means.

High priced vegetables that are grown in dirt using "natural" fertilizers and pest control.

That means piss and poop.

Straight up.

And then it gets picked, and washed in a mixture of water and chlorine.

Or lye.

And then it is sent to stores where it is under sprayers that have, wait for it, chlorine and water sprayed on them to "wash" away the contaminates from all the hands that have touched them.

And then you still get recalls on the stuff because of salmonella.

Know where salmonella comes from?

Chicken litter.

So yeah. I'm not stupid.

Bleach, or chlorine, is used in most vegetable washing mixes.

And if you don't want to use bleach, you can use vinegar.




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Washes for organic vegetables are highly regulated. Yes, chlorine can be used - but at EXTREMELY low levels, like drinking water levels. It is not even NEAR the same as regular vegetables.

Your little recipe calls for 200 ppm chlorine solution.  Organic vegetables are only allow FOUR ppm (4 ppm).  That's a hellavu huge difference.

How To Make A Chlorine Bleach & Water Solution To Sanitize Raw Fruits And Vegetables

2 teaspoons Regular Bleach (8.25% sodium hypochlorite)
1 Gallon of clean water

This will result in a 200 ppm (parts per million) chlorine solution.

Let fruit or vegetables stand in solution for at least one minute.
Then rinse with tap water or potable water.



You don't want to buy organic - don't. But those who care will, and it is NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS.



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Organic vegetable cleaning standards and regulations -

www.extension.org/pages/18355/approved-chemicals-for-use-in-organic-postharvest-systems



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You know. I made a suggestion for someone talking about not wanting to eat a potato peel and how to clean it per FDA standards.

I used a source from the government to show how it is done.

I've not once call anyone ignorant.

I did not make the suggestion out of any other reason than to give some helpful advice.

I've also given the healthier alternative to using bleach, vinegar.

Why you two seem to get so upset about a standard practice used even in your organic vegetables is beyond me.

MM said she would NEVER wash her vegetables with a chlorine solution.

I said it was already being done.

While it may not be at the upper limit of the government standard.

I was right when I said it was still used to wash those precious organic, pesticide and fertilizer free vegetables you want to extol.

I don't care what you buy.

But don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about when clearly, I do.

Chlorine is used, in some concetration, to wash 90% of the vegetables that end up on your table.





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Oh.

And paying more for something doesn't mean you care more.

It just means you paid more.

Like I said before, if a person really wants to know what they are eating, they'll grow it themselves.

But that doesn't mean they care any more than the person getting it from a grocery store or farmers market or friend.


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You know. I made a suggestion for someone talking about not wanting to eat a potato peel and how to clean it per FDA standards.

I used a source from the government to show how it is done.

I've not once call anyone ignorant.

I did not make the suggestion out of any other reason than to give some helpful advice.

I've also given the healthier alternative to using bleach, vinegar.

Why you two seem to get so upset about a standard practice used even in your organic vegetables is beyond me.

MM said she would NEVER wash her vegetables with a chlorine solution.

I said it was already being done.

While it may not be at the upper limit of the government standard.

I was right when I said it was still used to wash those precious organic, pesticide and fertilizer free vegetables you want to extol.

I don't care what you buy.

But don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about when clearly, I do.

Chlorine is used, in some concetration, to wash 90% of the vegetables that end up on your table.




 Bull****.  Your posts were full of arrogance, condescension and the attitude that they are dumb for not wanting to take your advice. 



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flan327 wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:

I won't serve potatoes with the skins. Potatoes are on the dirty dozen list and should never be eaten with the skins unless you buy them organic. They have the most pesticide residue in them of any other veg.


 I didn't know that. Good thing I almost never eat them.

flan


 It's not just the skin.  Potatoes are soakers, they will soak stuff up.  Mellow Momma is right - it is one of the most important vegetables to buy organic.  Bumpy berries are another - it's impossible to wash everything of all those crevices, like raspberries and blackberries.



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Not true.

I was right.

You said so yourself.

The problem is that I do know what I'm talking about and that pissed you off.



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