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Dad has a theory that an attack will happen just before the next election and that will be Obama's chance to declare martial law and stay in office.

I've thought it.


 This.  I would not be surprised at all if this happened.   People seem to have forgotten that a law was passed a few Presidents ago to enable the President to declare martial law and stay in office.   Sorry that I cannot remember the exact time or circumstances surrounding this...  Seems like Clinton, but...



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It wouldn't surprise me either, Lily & Karl.

Paris is a very Christian city, with all it's Catholic cathedrals and churches. ISIS is after Christians. I wouldn't be surprised if Vatican City was next.

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What the hell is wrong with all these global leaders? There is a worldwide terrorism movement of muslim extremists. Sooo, let's import more muslims from the very countries responsible for this. Oh ok.

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Well, we need to WAKE UP to the reality that Evil exists. And, all the notions of Liberal Utopia and Govt handouts and govt regulations and rules will not eliminate evil. And, liberal policies leave average citizens completely defenseless. People need to be able to conceal carry everywhere.

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Death toll is up to 128. Heartbreaking.

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Has it been determined who was responsible?

AL Queda was suspected last night.

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Chef,

Martial law is the imposition of the highest-ranking military officer as the military governor or as the head of the government, thus removing all power from the previous executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government.

 

 



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This is what restrictive gun controls results in. No one was able to defend themselves.

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And the scary thing is, the comment was made last night that their laws will become more strict. That security will trump individual liberties.

So they will make it easier for criminals, and strip even more personal rights from law abiding citizens.

And it won't be long till it happens in America.

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It wouldn't surprise me either, Lily & Karl.

Paris is a very Christian city, with all it's Catholic cathedrals and churches. ISIS is after Christians. I wouldn't be surprised if Vatican City was next.


You can't judge a city by the number of cathedrals and churches. From what I understand, only 27% of the French believe in a supreme being.

Montreal is just awash in cathedrals,. and every street and village is named after a saint, but that doesn't mean it's a Christian city. It used to be, but not any more. It hasn't been a Christian city in over half a century.

All the cathedrals are holdovers of when Montreal was ruled by the Catholic church. They're old and beautiful and we're not going to tear them down.

 

 



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I think Paris was attacked because there are just so many extremist Muslims there. Millions.

There's a mosque on every corner. Easy to coordinate attacks.



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Has it been determined who was responsible?

AL Queda was suspected last night.


ISIS claimed responsibility. 



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Has it been determined who was responsible?

AL Queda was suspected last night.


ISIS claimed responsibility. 


 Ah.

I'm not surprised. 

 



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It wouldn't surprise me either, Lily & Karl.

Paris is a very Christian city, with all it's Catholic cathedrals and churches. ISIS is after Christians. I wouldn't be surprised if Vatican City was next.


You can't judge a city by the number of cathedrals and churches. From what I understand, only 27% of the French believe in a supreme being.

Montreal is just awash in cathedrals,. and every street and village is named after a saint, but that doesn't mean it's a Christian city. It used to be, but not any more. It hasn't been a Christian city in over half a century.

All the cathedrals are holdovers of when Montreal was ruled by the Catholic church. They're old and beautiful and we're not going to tear them down.

 

 


 Yep. 

That's what happens when you put God out.

The Devil moves in.

 



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lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
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It wouldn't surprise me either, Lily & Karl.

Paris is a very Christian city, with all it's Catholic cathedrals and churches. ISIS is after Christians. I wouldn't be surprised if Vatican City was next.


You can't judge a city by the number of cathedrals and churches. From what I understand, only 27% of the French believe in a supreme being.

Montreal is just awash in cathedrals,. and every street and village is named after a saint, but that doesn't mean it's a Christian city. It used to be, but not any more. It hasn't been a Christian city in over half a century.

All the cathedrals are holdovers of when Montreal was ruled by the Catholic church. They're old and beautiful and we're not going to tear them down.

 

 


 Yep. 

That's what happens when you put God out.

The Devil moves in.

 


 Well, which is it?  A very Christian city or a Devil city? It can't be both.



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You get Canada.


 Yes, you have to get your digs in about Canada, even on a French terrorist thread.

Pitiful.



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Youre the one that brought up Canada...

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Youre the one that brought up Canada...


 I responded to a "Chrstian city" but thanks for the snark. It's always welcomed.



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weltschmerz wrote:

I think Paris was attacked because there are just so many extremist Muslims there. Millions.

There's a mosque on every corner. Easy to coordinate attacks.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Saturday 14th of November 2015 12:30:34 PM



And, HOW did they get there?

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You know what? Our world as we know it is under siege. We need to stop this pettiness and focus on a solution.

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Opening the floodgates to illegals isnt pettiness. It's policy. Policy that will end more innocent lives.

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Opening the floodgates to illegals isnt pettiness. It's policy. Policy that will end more innocent lives.


 I wasn't talking about the obvious policies that need to be in place,  I was talking about the pettiness of the geek infighting!



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I think Paris was attacked because there are just so many extremist Muslims there. Millions.

There's a mosque on every corner. Easy to coordinate attacks.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Saturday 14th of November 2015 12:30:34 PM

 



And, HOW did they get there?


They were invited. 

And Iran provided the money and the weapons.

 

 



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You know what? Our world as we know it is under siege. We need to stop this pettiness and focus on a solution.


What do you think of my proposal? 

 



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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I think Paris was attacked because there are just so many extremist Muslims there. Millions.

There's a mosque on every corner. Easy to coordinate attacks.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Saturday 14th of November 2015 12:30:34 PM

 



And, HOW did they get there?


 France let them in.



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So DH was talking to his family over there today. (Everything is fine, they don't live near there.) They were all saying how much safer they feel knowing no one there can carry a gun. One friend of his brother said more Americans are killed by fellow Americans than all those who died in the terrorist attack. They say they're perfectly happy not to have to defend themselves.

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Everyone has their own opinion. And uf u dont want to own a gun dont own one. But nobody NEEDS a gun....until they do.

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DH owns two antique guns that were sent to him when England outlawed all guns. They literally went door to door and took guns away from people. His step father sent him his guns so that the government wouldn't get them.

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Guns can give a false sense of security. Unless it is loaded and handy then what real use is it?

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You know what? Our world as we know it is under siege. We need to stop this pettiness and focus on a solution.


What do you think of my proposal? 

 


 Sorry Ed, you are married. Your proposal is empty. smile



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It's going to happen here.

That Constitution is going to be pretty much worthless before much longer.

The UN will come to an agreement that all the weapons, from every country, nukes and all, be removed to a central location.

Cause, if no one can get to any weapon, everyone will be safer.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Guns can give a false sense of security. Unless it is loaded and handy then what real use is it?


Guns don't give a false sense of security.

In the right hands, it can be the difference, between life or death.

If you don't have the nerve, to shoot someone, threatening your family.

Don't buy a gun, or learn how to use one.

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I am saying that you can have 100 guns locked in your gun cabinet. But if u dont have it on your person what good is it?

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I am saying that you can have 100 guns locked in your gun cabinet. But if u dont have it on your person what good is it?


 And so the gun owners need to have a few at the ready.  Yep, may take some time to recondition our brains but we will do this.



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I am saying that you can have 100 guns locked in your gun cabinet. But if u dont have it on your person what good is it?


 Ok.  Have it on your person - what is so hard about that?



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Guns can give a false sense of security. Unless it is loaded and handy then what real use is it?


Guns don't give a false sense of security.

In the right hands, it can be the difference, between life or death.

If you don't have the nerve, to shoot someone, threatening your family.

Don't buy a gun, or learn how to use one.

JMHO

 

 

 


 I agree completely. 

And how else are you going to top a madman with a gun?  We can't rely on the police and military to be everywhere all the time.  And by the time they respond, dozens or hundreds could be dead.  Just one person in the crowd able to shoot back could save many lives.



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What's so hard about it? I really don't feel that comfortable carrying a gun everywhere. And, I am at the School a lot so that is one place you technically aren't allowed to conceal carry or even have it in your car. Do you carry? It is a commitment to doing it and you have to spend a lot of time thinking about it and thinking how to wear it and so forth. I do have a friend who carries everywhere. But, I have reservations about doing so. And, I have guns but not sure I want to keep my pistol unlocked and loaded for a moment's notice. I have kids coming and going to my house all the time.

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What's so hard about it? I really don't feel that comfortable carrying a gun everywhere. And, I am at the School a lot so that is one place you technically aren't allowed to conceal carry or even have it in your car. Do you carry? It is a commitment to doing it and you have to spend a lot of time thinking about it and thinking how to wear it and so forth. I do have a friend who carries everywhere. But, I have reservations about doing so. And, I have guns but not sure I want to keep my pistol unlocked and loaded for a moment's notice. I have kids coming and going to my house all the time.


 Then you are not the one to do it.  But I know people that put their gun on everyday just like their pants.  My receptionist ALWAYS has hers in her purse, and we all know it in case we need it.  I don't carry, yet, because I feel the need to taking shooting classes first and I haven't done it.



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I bought a pistol and am practicing with it. It is a big responsibility to carry. And, I am looking at an ankle holster. I don't know that I want to keep it in my purse. You have to balance safety with the risk of accidents.

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I bought a pistol and am practicing with it. It is a big responsibility to carry. And, I am looking at an ankle holster. I don't know that I want to keep it in my purse. You have to balance safety with the risk of accidents.


 Your children are also old enough to learn about gun safety.  You don't have toddlers, anymore. 



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I bought a pistol and am practicing with it. It is a big responsibility to carry. And, I am looking at an ankle holster. I don't know that I want to keep it in my purse. You have to balance safety with the risk of accidents.


 Your children are also old enough to learn about gun safety.  You don't have toddlers, anymore. 



Yes, I understand that. But, I have to spend some time getting comfortable with that. I mean, look at all the illegals breaking in to homes across America and shooting homeowners. You need to have a piece on hand and ready to go. You can't fumble through a gun safe or lock box and then try to load a gun as someone is breaking down your door. I think it requires planning. But, I am planning a trip to the gun shop to find some comfortable gear to wear. Not sure I want it inside my waistband. Maybe a shoulder holster which would work well now that it is winter. Or maybe a gun purse. Not sure yet.

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And terrorists knowing that Paris is pretty much gun free gives them free license everywhere.

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I bought a pistol and am practicing with it. It is a big responsibility to carry. And, I am looking at an ankle holster. I don't know that I want to keep it in my purse. You have to balance safety with the risk of accidents.


 Your children are also old enough to learn about gun safety.  You don't have toddlers, anymore. 



 

Yes, I understand that. But, I have to spend some time getting comfortable with that. I mean, look at all the illegals breaking in to homes across America and shooting homeowners. You need to have a piece on hand and ready to go. You can't fumble through a gun safe or lock box and then try to load a gun as someone is breaking down your door. I think it requires planning. But, I am planning a trip to the gun shop to find some comfortable gear to wear. Not sure I want it inside my waistband. Maybe a shoulder holster which would work well now that it is winter. Or maybe a gun purse. Not sure yet.


 We have a combination gun safe bolted to a large piece of furniture in our bedroom. Press four buttons (out of ten) in the correct order and out pops the loaded pistol. 

I still maintain that it is pointless to even have the gun because Husband would sleep through the end of the world and I assume any noise I hear at night is the cats. Husband insists on gun ownership, I insisted on the safe. 

 



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It's interesting. The conversation about carrying. I never thought about it. It's just so normal and natural to see someone with a gun on their side.

As for holsters, you do need to try them on. With you side arm. See what works best for you.

I never thought a gun just put in a purse was smart.

Depending on the purse, you have to get into it, and "find" it among everything else in there. And then there is the stuff like lint, make up or lotions and stuff that can cause a gun to not work properly.

And if someone grabs your purse, well they then have your gun.

I do have a great uncle who carries his revolvers on his sides. Old fashioned, cowboy holster. He has carried his guns like that since he could walk. First with toy guns as a child and then his real guns as he got older. He wears his cowboy hat and vest every day too.

No. He isn't crazy. But he sure looks it.

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I bought a pistol and am practicing with it. It is a big responsibility to carry. And, I am looking at an ankle holster. I don't know that I want to keep it in my purse. You have to balance safety with the risk of accidents.


 Your children are also old enough to learn about gun safety.  You don't have toddlers, anymore. 



 

Yes, I understand that. But, I have to spend some time getting comfortable with that. I mean, look at all the illegals breaking in to homes across America and shooting homeowners. You need to have a piece on hand and ready to go. You can't fumble through a gun safe or lock box and then try to load a gun as someone is breaking down your door. I think it requires planning. But, I am planning a trip to the gun shop to find some comfortable gear to wear. Not sure I want it inside my waistband. Maybe a shoulder holster which would work well now that it is winter. Or maybe a gun purse. Not sure yet.


 We have a combination gun safe bolted to a large piece of furniture in our bedroom. Press four buttons (out of ten) in the correct order and out pops the loaded pistol. 

I still maintain that it is pointless to even have the gun because Husband would sleep through the end of the world and I assume any noise I hear at night is the cats. Husband insists on gun ownership, I insisted on the safe. 

 


 Our gun safe is the closet. Back left corner. Shells are in the drawer to your right. 

Except for the two hunting rifles that are in hard cases in my daughter's closet. Yep. The ammo is in the cases too.

 

 



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