TOTALLY GEEKED!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

RE: Pastafarian gets to wear strainer on head in license photo

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
You folks were mocking Jehovah's Witnesses, and they're Christian!! Like you! Wrong brand of Christian, I suppose.
You were calling the religion warped, misguided and stupid.
That's perfectly acceptable.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 02:53:04 PM

No. They are not.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I know it is mocking islam/Muslims. I get that.

I doubt there is a single soul here who doesn't know how I feel about islam/Muslims.

But I don't think making fun of them is right either.

What if they began mocking the sign of cross? Or the yomica? Or any other religion?

Not to mention it just looks incredibly stupid.

But then there are people who like those Jackass movies.

So stupid seems to be the popular thing now.

-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Sunday 15th of November 2015 01:07:43 PM
The what, now?
Are you talking about a yarmulke?

Is that how it is spelled? Sorry.

The head covering worn by jewish men.

weltschmerz · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Jealousy...its an ugly thing...
I promise you, I am not jealous of anyone here.
flan

Don't you know we're jealous of the Giant Redwood sitting atop her cornea?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Thats not mocking. Thats telling the truth.
Oh, for Christ's sake!!!
That's like me mocking your faith and justifying it by claiming it's the truth. Nice try, but no cigar.
If someone says something negative about evangelical Christianity, folks get bent out of shape.
If you say something nasty and derogatory about another Christian faith, it's the truth?
Wow. Talk about hypocrisy.

So let me get this straight.

I said I think the OP is mocking islam/Muslims and that is not right.

But now you are getting piss because someone doesn't like having a JW knock on their door?

Did you actually break your neck in the attempt to twist this all up and find offense?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
And most of us didnt mock. I posted about how nice they have been taking care of my mother. LL said the same...
And some of you did. Warped. Misguided. Stupid. Those were the exact words.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 03:05:25 PM

Ummm..... that's not mocking.

That is an opinion.

Wow.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
And most of us didnt mock. I posted about how nice they have been taking care of my mother. LL said the same...
And some of you did. Warped. Misguided. Stupid. Those were the exact words.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 03:05:25 PM
Ummm..... that's not mocking.
That is an opinion.
Wow.

It's certainly NOT a compliment.

flan

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
And most of us didnt mock. I posted about how nice they have been taking care of my mother. LL said the same...
And some of you did. Warped. Misguided. Stupid. Those were the exact words.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 03:05:25 PM
Ummm..... that's not mocking.
That is an opinion.
Wow.

So, if I call your religion warped, misguided and stupid, it would just be an opinion, and not mocking? Good to know. I'll remember that.

Ohfour · Hooker

Thats nothing new...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Thats not mocking. Thats telling the truth.
Oh, for Christ's sake!!!
That's like me mocking your faith and justifying it by claiming it's the truth. Nice try, but no cigar.
If someone says something negative about evangelical Christianity, folks get bent out of shape.
If you say something nasty and derogatory about another Christian faith, it's the truth?
Wow. Talk about hypocrisy.
So let me get this straight.
I said I think the OP is mocking islam/Muslims and that is not right.
But now you are getting piss because someone doesn't like having a JW knock on their door?
Did you actually break your neck in the attempt to twist this all up and find offense?

I have honestly never heard that.

I've always viewed the whole Pastafarian thing as an attempt at wit. It falls flat for me.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
And most of us didnt mock. I posted about how nice they have been taking care of my mother. LL said the same...
And some of you did. Warped. Misguided. Stupid. Those were the exact words.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 03:05:25 PM
Ummm..... that's not mocking.
That is an opinion.
Wow.
So, if I call your religion warped, misguided and stupid, it would just be an opinion, and not mocking? Good to know. I'll remember that.

Yes.

And you do. Every single chance you get.

It would be mocking if you begin make fun of our rituals.

Take communion. It is very sacred to us.

You can see it is stupid all you want.

But if you begin to misquote scripture or in some other way make fun of it. That's wrong.

See? It's that tolerance thing a lot have trouble with.

I can tolerate the ways of other religions. Shoot, I can event respect them.

But no way does that get returned to some one who believes in God.

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
And most of us didnt mock. I posted about how nice they have been taking care of my mother. LL said the same...
And some of you did. Warped. Misguided. Stupid. Those were the exact words.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 03:05:25 PM
Ummm..... that's not mocking.
That is an opinion.
Wow.
So, if I call your religion warped, misguided and stupid, it would just be an opinion, and not mocking? Good to know. I'll remember that.
Yes.
And you do. Every single chance you get.
It would be mocking if you begin make fun of our rituals.
Take communion. It is very sacred to us.
You can see it is stupid all you want.
But if you begin to misquote scripture or in some other way make fun of it. That's wrong.

See? It's that tolerance thing a lot have trouble with.
I can tolerate the ways of other religions. Shoot, I can event respect them.
But no way does that get returned to some one who believes in God.

Show mw one post where I called your religion warped, misguided or stupid.

Show me one post where I made fun of communion or called it stupid.

Just one. I'll wait.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
And most of us didnt mock. I posted about how nice they have been taking care of my mother. LL said the same...
And some of you did. Warped. Misguided. Stupid. Those were the exact words.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 03:05:25 PM
Ummm..... that's not mocking.
That is an opinion.
Wow.
So, if I call your religion warped, misguided and stupid, it would just be an opinion, and not mocking? Good to know. I'll remember that.
Yes.
And you do. Every single chance you get.
It would be mocking if you begin make fun of our rituals.
Take communion. It is very sacred to us.
You can see it is stupid all you want.
But if you begin to misquote scripture or in some other way make fun of it. That's wrong.

See? It's that tolerance thing a lot have trouble with.
I can tolerate the ways of other religions. Shoot, I can event respect them.
But no way does that get returned to some one who believes in God.

Show mw one post where I called your religion warped, misguided or stupid.
Show me one post where I made fun of communion or called it stupid.
Just one. I'll wait.

You call Christianity a fairy tale.

You call God a mythological creature.

You make fun of the fact that Christians believe the Bible.

As for the communion reference, I gave it as an example of a Christian ritual.

I said IF you made fun of it.

You really do like to be offended, don't you?

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

And another thread bites the dust. Another one's gone...

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
And most of us didnt mock. I posted about how nice they have been taking care of my mother. LL said Thats not mocking. Thats telling the truth.

the same...
And some of you did. Warped. Misguided. Stupid. Those were the exact words.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 03:05:25 PM
Ummm..... that's not mocking.
That is an opinion.
Wow.
So, if I call your religion warped, misguided and stupid, it would just be an opinion, and not mocking? Good to know. I'll remember that.
Yes.
And you do. Every single chance you get.
It would be mocking if you begin make fun of our rituals.
Take communion. It is very sacred to us.
You can see it is stupid all you want.
But if you begin to misquote scripture or in some other way make fun of it. That's wrong.

See? It's that tolerance thing a lot have trouble with.
I can tolerate the ways of other religions. Shoot, I can event respect them.
But no way does that get returned to some one who believes in God.

Show mw one post where I called your religion warped, misguided or stupid.
Show me one post where I made fun of communion or called it stupid.
Just one. I'll wait.

You call Christianity a fairy tale.
You call God a mythological creature.
You make fun of the fact that Christians believe the Bible.
As for the communion reference, I gave it as an example of a Christian ritual.
I said IF you made fun of it.

You really do like to be offended, don't you?

Thats not mocking. That's telling the truth.

I'm quoting OhFour. How do you like them apples?

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 04:52:49 PM

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Ok. Let me try to break this down for you.

Saying someone is misguided is opinion.

Saying their God is a fairytale is mocking.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
Ok. Let me try to break this down for you.

Saying someone is misguided is opinion.

Saying their God is a fairytale is mocking.

And you are certainly welcome to your opinion.

flan

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
You folks were mocking Jehovah's Witnesses, and they're Christian!! Like you! Wrong brand of Christian, I suppose.
You were calling the religion warped, misguided and stupid.
That's perfectly acceptable.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 02:53:04 PM
No. They are not.

Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian.

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
You folks were mocking Jehovah's Witnesses, and they're Christian!! Like you! Wrong brand of Christian, I suppose.
You were calling the religion warped, misguided and stupid.
That's perfectly acceptable.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 02:53:04 PM
No. They are not.
Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian.

They call themselves Christians. Who are you to determine that they aren't?

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 06:52:51 PM

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Thats not mocking. Thats telling the truth.
Oh, for Christ's sake!!!
That's like me mocking your faith and justifying it by claiming it's the truth. Nice try, but no cigar.
If someone says something negative about evangelical Christianity, folks get bent out of shape.
If you say something nasty and derogatory about another Christian faith, it's the truth?
Wow. Talk about hypocrisy.
So let me get this straight.
I said I think the OP is mocking islam/Muslims and that is not right.
But now you are getting piss because someone doesn't like having a JW knock on their door?
Did you actually break your neck in the attempt to twist this all up and find offense?

FNW · Guru

I didn't interpret this woman as mocking anyone, just making herself look loony tunes.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
You folks were mocking Jehovah's Witnesses, and they're Christian!! Like you! Wrong brand of Christian, I suppose.
You were calling the religion warped, misguided and stupid.
That's perfectly acceptable.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 02:53:04 PM
No. They are not.
Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian.
They call themselves Christians. Who are you to determine that they aren't?

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 06:52:51 PM

The Westboro people call themselves Christian. Real Christians know the difference. Just because you say you are Christian doesn't mean you are. The body of Christ knows what teachings are truly Christian. I would think you would know this , being, as you claim, a former Christian. ..

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
You folks were mocking Jehovah's Witnesses, and they're Christian!! Like you! Wrong brand of Christian, I suppose.
You were calling the religion warped, misguided and stupid.
That's perfectly acceptable.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 02:53:04 PM
No. They are not.
Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian.
They call themselves Christians. Who are you to determine that they aren't?

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 06:52:51 PM
The Westboro people call themselves Christian. Real Christians know the difference. Just because you say you are Christian doesn't mean you are. The body of Christ knows what teachings are truly Christian. I would think you would know this , being, as you claim, a former Christian. ..

Some people don't consider Catholics to be real Christians. And yes, I am a former Christian. My religion is called pravoslavye, which literally means the RIGHT religion, and you know what?

If I was still in it, i wouldn't call YOU a real Christian.

Ohfour · Hooker

Well, you would be misguided...but thats not unusual.

Divine Geek · Guru

FNW wrote:
I didn't interpret this woman as mocking anyone, just making herself look loony tunes.

I agree she looks loony tunes. I do think she is trying to mock religion (religion in general, not any one specifically). My take on their beliefs is they believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster to demonstrate how silly they feel believing in God is. In one article I read, they referred to themselves as atheists.

I'm not offended by this girl. I feel sorry for her. Sorry that she does not allow herself to know God and feel his loving presence in her life.

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Well, you would be misguided...but thats not unusual.

I'm afraid not. After all, my religion is actually called the RIGHT religion. Therefore, you'd be the misguided one. And wrong.

Ohfour · Hooker

Keep thinking that...bless your little heart...

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
You folks were mocking Jehovah's Witnesses, and they're Christian!! Like you! Wrong brand of Christian, I suppose.
You were calling the religion warped, misguided and stupid.
That's perfectly acceptable.

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 02:53:04 PM
No. They are not.
Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian.
They call themselves Christians. Who are you to determine that they aren't?

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 15th of November 2015 06:52:51 PM

It's not about me. To be a member of a religion, you have to believe the fundamental tenets of that religion.

I could call myself a Jew or a Muslim, but if I don't believe in the fundamental beliefs of Judaism or Islam, then am I Jew or a Muslim? Of course not. That's absurd.

WYSIWYG · Guru

I like it. I mean, it's nice to be able to know an bigoted idiot right off the bat.
- Lawyerlady

___________________________

You mean like people know the same about us if we wear a cross or crucifix, on our lapel or around our neck, when we have our ID picture taken? What about a Jewish man that wears his Yarmulke, does that make him a bigoted idiot too? He doesn't believe Christ is the savior or in Christianity either.

It's really no different. It's the garb of her belief, just as crosses and crucifixes are part of the garb of Christians. We may think her colander is silly, but I'd bet Pastafarians believe crosses and crucifixes are silly.

huskerbb · Guru

WYSIWYG wrote:
I like it. I mean, it's nice to be able to know an bigoted idiot right off the bat.
- Lawyerlady

___________________________

You mean like people know the same about us if we wear a cross or crucifix, on our lapel or around our neck, when we have our ID picture taken? What about a Jewish man that wears his Yarmulke, does that make him a bigoted idiot too? He doesn't believe Christ is the savior or in Christianity either.

It's really no different. It's the garb of her belief, just as crosses and crucifixes are part of the garb of Christians. We may think her colander is silly, but I'd bet Pastafarians believe crosses and crucifixes are silly.

So what? It's not a real religion. It's made up crap to simply mock real religions.

A mark of a real religion is longevity. Judaism has been around for thousands of years. Buddhism, Confuscianism--same way. Islam about 1400 or so years. Christianity about 2,000.

The whole thing about someone making up crap yesterday and saying it's a religion is foolish. In 500 years if they are still around, we an revisit the issue.

WYSIWYG · Guru

I don't find it funny.

In fact, I think it might just be borderline blasphemy.
- lilyofcourse

_____________________________

But what is "Our God, the Father of Christ, is the only true God" to other faiths? Isn't that just as much blasphemy to any faith that doesn't believe in God? We may not believe in other religions or in the lack of belief in any supreme being that the Flying Spaghetti Monster represents, but, as long as there are other beliefs out there, they should have the same right to wear their religious garb that Christians have.

huskerbb · Guru

WYSIWYG wrote:
I don't find it funny.

In fact, I think it might just be borderline blasphemy.
- lilyofcourse

_____________________________

But what is "Our God, the Father of Christ, is the only true God" to other faiths? Isn't that just as much blasphemy to any faith that doesn't believe in God? We may not believe in other religions or in the lack of belief in any supreme being that the Flying Spaghetti Monster represents, but, as long as there are other beliefs out there, they should have the same right to wear their religious garb that Christians have.

That's not a real religion. They are not sincere in their beliefs. It's an anti-religion made up to mock religion.

To say otherwise you'd have to be completely ignorant.

WYSIWYG · Guru

I can tolerate the ways of other religions. Shoot, I can event respect them.
- lilyofcourse

__________________________

Didn't I just quote you as saying another person's belief and them acting on that belief is borderline blasphemy? I'm confused.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian.
- huskerbb

____________________

They are just as much Christian as all the other denominations are. All Christian Denominations get their Word from the Bible. The Bible is the book of Christians. The issue is that not all denominations get the same message from the Bible.

Saying that Jehovah's Witness are not Christian is like saying Lutherans aren't Christian, or Catholics aren't Christian, or even people of no particular denomination, but believe in God, The Father, His son Jesus, and Heaven and life everlasting aren't Christian. They may not be your denomination of Christian, but they are still Christian.

WYSIWYG · Guru

So what? It's not a real religion. It's made up crap to simply mock real religions.

A mark of a real religion is longevity. Judaism has been around for thousands of years. Buddhism, Confuscianism--same way. Islam about 1400 or so years. Christianity about 2,000.

The whole thing about someone making up crap yesterday and saying it's a religion is foolish. In 500 years if they are still around, we an revisit the issue.
- huskerbb

________________________________

"It's not a real religion"? They say the same thing about Christianity. 10 years after Christianity began as a recognized religion, was it a "real religion"? All things have their start somewhere, some-when. Just because it's recent doesn't make it "not real" to those that believe in it.

You and I may not believe it to be real, but that doesn't make it not real to those that believe it. Just as they don't believe the things we believe in are real.

huskerbb · Guru

WYSIWYG wrote:
So what? It's not a real religion. It's made up crap to simply mock real religions.

A mark of a real religion is longevity. Judaism has been around for thousands of years. Buddhism, Confuscianism--same way. Islam about 1400 or so years. Christianity about 2,000.

The whole thing about someone making up crap yesterday and saying it's a religion is foolish. In 500 years if they are still around, we an revisit the issue.
- huskerbb

________________________________

"It's not a real religion"? They say the same thing about Christianity. 10 years after Christianity began as a recognized religion, was it a "real religion"? All things have their start somewhere, some-when. Just because it's recent doesn't make it "not real" to those that believe in it.

You and I may not believe it to be real, but that doesn't make it not real to those that believe it. Just as they don't believe the things we believe in are real.

Again, we can revisit the issue in 500 years.

also, NO ONE "believes" in it. It is a joke used to mock religion. That's the point of it.

huskerbb · Guru

WYSIWYG wrote:
Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian.
- huskerbb

____________________

They are just as much Christian as all the other denominations are. All Christian Denominations get their Word from the Bible. The Bible is the book of Christians. The issue is that not all denominations get the same message from the Bible.

Saying that Jehovah's Witness are not Christian is like saying Lutherans aren't Christian, or Catholics aren't Christian, or even people of no particular denomination, but believe in God, The Father, His son Jesus, and Heaven and life everlasting aren't Christian. They may not be your denomination of Christian, but they are still Christian.

No, they aren't. They don't believe in the very things you just put in your post.

WYSIWYG · Guru

That's not a real religion. They are not sincere in their beliefs. It's an anti-religion made up to mock religion.

To say otherwise you'd have to be completely ignorant.
- huskerbb

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I disagree with your last sentence more than anything in that post, because I believe you are wrong about the first two sentences (you are right that it's made up to mock religion though).

They believe in the silliness of religion just as fervently and sincerely as Christians believe in the Trinity or Muslims believe in Allah or Jews believe in Yahweh. And, as ed11563 mentioned earlier, all that's needed to be real is to be legally registered, which they are.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Again, we can revisit the issue in 500 years.

also, NO ONE "believes" in it. It is a joke used to mock religion. That's the point of it.
- huskerbb

__________________________________

Are you planning to still be here, and on-line, in 500 years? That's not part of my plan.

And of course they don't literally believe in the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" (that's kind of the point of the Pastafarians: If some great entity that we don't know anything about, why not a flying ball of noodles?), but they do believe their belief that religions themselves are a joke, just as we believe their religion to be one.

WYSIWYG · Guru

No, they aren't. They don't believe in the very things you just put in your post.
- huskerbb

___________________________

I really don't want to argue with you about this, but, Jehovah's Witness get the tenets of their faith from the Bible. To say otherwise is just plain ignorant of reality. We may not agree with their interpretation of the Bible. But to say that's not where they get it? That just flies into the lands of incredulity.

I'd also like to point out that I didn't say they follow the beliefs of the other denominations I mentioned. You getting that out of my post must have been part of your inferring things that are not actually there that I have read about.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

She said she did it as a parody to religion.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

WYSIWYG wrote:

I like it. I mean, it's nice to be able to know an bigoted idiot right off the bat.

- Lawyerlady

___________________________

You mean like people know the same about us if we wear a cross or crucifix, on our lapel or around our neck, when we have our ID picture taken? What about a Jewish man that wears his Yarmulke, does that make him a bigoted idiot too? He doesn't believe Christ is the savior or in Christianity either.

It's really no different. It's the garb of her belief, just as crosses and crucifixes are part of the garb of Christians. We may think her colander is silly, but I'd bet Pastafarians believe crosses and crucifixes are silly.

It's absolutely different. Those are deeply held symbols of faith. She is choosing to make a mockery and act like an Ass.

WYSIWYG · Guru

It's absolutely different. Those are deeply held symbols of faith. She is choosing to make a mockery and act like an Ass.
- Lady Gaga Snerd

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I'm sorry, but I must disagree with you about it being different. As believers, the images, symbols, and icons are deeply held to us, and us alone. To everyone that doesn't believe as we do they are just meaningless bits of decoration. That goes for every faith and every belief.

Satanism is a fairly longstanding religion, and they have the goat's head pentagram as a symbol. How do you feel about that symbol? Does it hold a special place in your heart or do you find it silly?

Personally, I think this lady is, I believe the proper term is, "Loony Tunes", but that doesn't detract from her right to have her beliefs. If we want our religious rights protected in a society that has freedom of religion, we must also protect the rights of those who's religions we see as nothing but silly, just as strongly as we would protect religions we respect, even if we don't believe them to be right..

huskerbb · Guru

WYSIWYG wrote:
It's absolutely different. Those are deeply held symbols of faith. She is choosing to make a mockery and act like an Ass.
- Lady Gaga Snerd

_________________________

I'm sorry, but I must disagree with you about it being different. As believers, the images, symbols, and icons are deeply held to us, and us alone. To everyone that doesn't believe as we do they are just meaningless bits of decoration. That goes for every faith and every belief.

Satanism is a fairly longstanding religion, and they have the goat's head pentagram as a symbol. How do you feel about that symbol? Does it hold a special place in your heart or do you find it silly?

Personally, I think this lady is, I believe the proper term is, "Loony Tunes", but that doesn't detract from her right to have her beliefs. If we want our religious rights protected in a society that has freedom of religion, we must also protect the rights of those who's religions we see as nothing but silly, just as strongly as we would protect religions we respect, even if we don't believe them to be right..

This isn't a faith--or a belief. She doesn't have "her beliefs". It is ONLY mocking religion, it is NOT a set of beliefs or a religion.

huskerbb · Guru

WYSIWYG wrote:
No, they aren't. They don't believe in the very things you just put in your post.
- huskerbb

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I really don't want to argue with you about this, but, Jehovah's Witness get the tenets of their faith from the Bible. To say otherwise is just plain ignorant of reality. We may not agree with their interpretation of the Bible. But to say that's not where they get it? That just flies into the lands of incredulity.

I'd also like to point out that I didn't say they follow the beliefs of the other denominations I mentioned. You getting that out of my post must have been part of your inferring things that are not actually there that I have read about.

They do not believe in the fundamental tenets of Christianity. They are not Christian. I will argue about this all day long and into next year. The Bible is not their only source for their beliefs--AND--they do not believe in the divinity of Christ or that he is the Savior. That is fundamental to Christian beliefs.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Jehovah%20Witnesses/jw-exposed.htm

WYSIWYG · Guru

I believe you have gotten some bad information there huskerbb.

They do not believe in the Trinity, but they do believe Jesus to be the Son of God. You should check out their own webpage if you want to know about them, not some other link. Here's what they think about Jesus: www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/who-is-jesus-christ/

Especially important on that link to disprove what you just said is:

Jesus is Jehovah’s most precious Son—and for good reason. He is called “the firstborn of all creation,” for he was God’s first creation. * (Colossians 1:15) There is something else that makes this Son special. He is the “only-begotten Son.” (John 3:16) This means that Jesus is the only one directly created by God. Jesus is also the only one whom God used when He created all other things. (Colossians 1:16) Then, too, Jesus is called “the Word.” (John 1:14) This tells us that he spoke for God, no doubt delivering messages and instructions to the Father’s other sons, both spirit and human.

weltschmerz · Guru

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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

http://www.soundchristian.com/chart.html

-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Friday 20th of November 2015 07:10:53 AM

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
http://www.soundchristian.com/chart.html

-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Friday 20th of November 2015 07:10:53 AM

That's a really nice chart. But not really copy-able or printable. Darn.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yeah, I couldn't post it!