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Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

RE: Dear Prudie: Don't to Pay For MIL's New Pet

Ohfour · Hooker

And some states have even made breeders illegal...

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Husker lives in the middle of nowhere where pets have no value. Cities have strict rules on pets. There's no way he could ever comprehend something so out of his scope.

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Then you will look like the jerk when the sisters give mom the puppy.

This isn't about money. They are just pissed they didn't get a rescue. The dog from the breeder could have been cheaper and they'd still be pissed. The money issue is irrelevant.
Nope. My money, my decision. Too bad if the sisters don't like it. The money is only irrelevent to you...
It's also irrelevant to the LW. She mentions it ONLY because it was more expensive from a breeder, not because the money is the real issue.
I think the moral objection is more important and relevant, anyway. He said no to a breeder for a reason.
And that's what makes it even more stupid. His having an objection seems to translate into entitlement to make everyone else act the way he wants them to.
He has every right to not buy from a breeder and he told his sisters this. They are not able to just make that decision for him. I don't think you'd go for it if someone wanted you to pay for something you found morally objectionable and I won't believe you if you say otherwise...lol
But this is a stupid moral objection.

Some of your moral objections are stupid too but you still get to have them. You don't get to be boss of the world about what's important to everyone else...sheesh

msrock · Guru

He's so obnoxious. God. lol.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

He has every right to not chip in for a breeder pup. I think his offer to pay for future vet bills was a reasonable compromise.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
So because you deem it stupid it must be stupid. Well husker a lot of people feel that way about things you think are important.

Stupid people.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
Husker lives in the middle of nowhere where pets have no value. Cities have strict rules on pets. There's no way he could ever comprehend something so out of his scope.

??? That makes no sense. Since I would be willing to pay MORE for a pet, that means I think they have no value? Rather a dumb post on your part.

Tinydancer · Guru

Do you ever get sick of trying to be the boss of everyone husker?

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
Do you ever get sick of trying to be the boss of everyone husker?

You do the same things--just not on this issue. abortion was brought up--are you willing to just live and let live on that issue?

also, who is the "boss" here--the guy who insists on getting his way? That would be the LW's fiancé.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 20th of November 2015 12:02:45 PM

msrock · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
Do you ever get sick of trying to be the boss of everyone husker?

Or being the smartest person in the world? confuse

huskerbb · Guru

msrock wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Do you ever get sick of trying to be the boss of everyone husker?
Or being the smartest person in the world?

No, I like being that one.

msrock · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
msrock wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Do you ever get sick of trying to be the boss of everyone husker?
Or being the smartest person in the world?
No, I like being that one.

I'm pretty sure you do. biggrin

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Do you ever get sick of trying to be the boss of everyone husker?
You do the same things--just not on this issue. abortion was brought up--are you willing to just live and let live on that issue?

also, who is the "boss" here--the guy who insists on getting his way? That would be the LW's fiancé.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 20th of November 2015 12:02:45 PM

So the sisters didn't insist on getting their own way? I have no choice but to live and let live on abortion becuase I can only control what I would do and I wouldn't be helping anyone pay for that either. That's just a stupid comparison.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Do you ever get sick of trying to be the boss of everyone husker?
You do the same things--just not on this issue. abortion was brought up--are you willing to just live and let live on that issue?

also, who is the "boss" here--the guy who insists on getting his way? That would be the LW's fiancé.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 20th of November 2015 12:02:45 PM
So the sisters didn't insist on getting their own way? I have no choice but to live and let live on abortion becuase I can only control what I would do and I wouldn't be helping anyone pay for that either. That's just a stupid comparison.

Not really. I think they were open to either, but just happened to choose this one.

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Do you ever get sick of trying to be the boss of everyone husker?
You do the same things--just not on this issue. abortion was brought up--are you willing to just live and let live on that issue?

also, who is the "boss" here--the guy who insists on getting his way? That would be the LW's fiancé.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 20th of November 2015 12:02:45 PM
So the sisters didn't insist on getting their own way? I have no choice but to live and let live on abortion becuase I can only control what I would do and I wouldn't be helping anyone pay for that either. That's just a stupid comparison.
Not really. I think they were open to either, but just happened to choose this one.

If you want to live your life letting other people force you to do something you don't want to then that's what's crazy. Somehow I doubt you'd ever do things you didn't want to but keep pretending if it helps your stupid argument...lol

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Do you ever get sick of trying to be the boss of everyone husker?
You do the same things--just not on this issue. abortion was brought up--are you willing to just live and let live on that issue?

also, who is the "boss" here--the guy who insists on getting his way? That would be the LW's fiancé.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 20th of November 2015 12:02:45 PM
So the sisters didn't insist on getting their own way? I have no choice but to live and let live on abortion becuase I can only control what I would do and I wouldn't be helping anyone pay for that either. That's just a stupid comparison.
Not really. I think they were open to either, but just happened to choose this one.
If you want to live your life letting other people force you to do something you don't want to then that's what's crazy. Somehow I doubt you'd ever do things you didn't want to but keep pretending if it helps your stupid argument...lol

He agreed to get a dog and help pay. Where it comes from is irrelevant.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Do you ever get sick of trying to be the boss of everyone husker?
You do the same things--just not on this issue. abortion was brought up--are you willing to just live and let live on that issue?

also, who is the "boss" here--the guy who insists on getting his way? That would be the LW's fiancé.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 20th of November 2015 12:02:45 PM
So the sisters didn't insist on getting their own way? I have no choice but to live and let live on abortion becuase I can only control what I would do and I wouldn't be helping anyone pay for that either. That's just a stupid comparison.
Not really. I think they were open to either, but just happened to choose this one.
If you want to live your life letting other people force you to do something you don't want to then that's what's crazy. Somehow I doubt you'd ever do things you didn't want to but keep pretending if it helps your stupid argument...lol
He agreed to get a dog and help pay. Where it comes from is irrelevant.

Not really. The chances of getting a sick dog from a breeder are WAY higher than getting one from a shelter. So he's paying more for a dog, and looking at a ;lot more vet bills. Since he is going to be partly responsible for the care of this dog, he gets to have a part in the selection.

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Do you ever get sick of trying to be the boss of everyone husker?
You do the same things--just not on this issue. abortion was brought up--are you willing to just live and let live on that issue?

also, who is the "boss" here--the guy who insists on getting his way? That would be the LW's fiancé.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 20th of November 2015 12:02:45 PM
So the sisters didn't insist on getting their own way? I have no choice but to live and let live on abortion becuase I can only control what I would do and I wouldn't be helping anyone pay for that either. That's just a stupid comparison.
Not really. I think they were open to either, but just happened to choose this one.
If you want to live your life letting other people force you to do something you don't want to then that's what's crazy. Somehow I doubt you'd ever do things you didn't want to but keep pretending if it helps your stupid argument...lol
He agreed to get a dog and help pay. Where it comes from is irrelevant.

He agreed to get a rescue dog. The sisters got a dog from the breeder. What part of that don't you understand?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

husker is actually a good guy.

flan

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Do you ever get sick of trying to be the boss of everyone husker?
You do the same things--just not on this issue. abortion was brought up--are you willing to just live and let live on that issue?

also, who is the "boss" here--the guy who insists on getting his way? That would be the LW's fiancé.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 20th of November 2015 12:02:45 PM
So the sisters didn't insist on getting their own way? I have no choice but to live and let live on abortion becuase I can only control what I would do and I wouldn't be helping anyone pay for that either. That's just a stupid comparison.
Not really. I think they were open to either, but just happened to choose this one.
If you want to live your life letting other people force you to do something you don't want to then that's what's crazy. Somehow I doubt you'd ever do things you didn't want to but keep pretending if it helps your stupid argument...lol
He agreed to get a dog and help pay. Where it comes from is irrelevant.
Not really. The chances of getting a sick dog from a breeder are WAY higher than getting one from a shelter. So he's paying more for a dog, and looking at a ;lot more vet bills. Since he is going to be partly responsible for the care of this dog, he gets to have a part in the selection.

yet he offered to pay for some vet costs, so that theory makes no sense. Even if he hadn't done so--so what? That's moms issue.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Do you ever get sick of trying to be the boss of everyone husker?
You do the same things--just not on this issue. abortion was brought up--are you willing to just live and let live on that issue?

also, who is the "boss" here--the guy who insists on getting his way? That would be the LW's fiancé.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 20th of November 2015 12:02:45 PM
So the sisters didn't insist on getting their own way? I have no choice but to live and let live on abortion becuase I can only control what I would do and I wouldn't be helping anyone pay for that either. That's just a stupid comparison.
Not really. I think they were open to either, but just happened to choose this one.
If you want to live your life letting other people force you to do something you don't want to then that's what's crazy. Somehow I doubt you'd ever do things you didn't want to but keep pretending if it helps your stupid argument...lol
He agreed to get a dog and help pay. Where it comes from is irrelevant.
He agreed to get a rescue dog. The sisters got a dog from the breeder. What part of that don't you understand?

No. He just thought they'd do what he wanted and they didn't.

Its ts rather like talking about getting mom a TV from wal-mart because it's on sale, and then my sister getting one at target, instead. was it exactly what we talked about? Maybe not, but so what?

Ohfour · Hooker

And if he doesn't have the hundreds of dollars it costs him to get a dog from the breeder? Is he supposed to not eat?

There is absolutely no one here that agrees with you. Funny that you still think you are right. You are not. You are wrong...

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
husker is actually a good guy.

flan

What does that have to do with anything?

huskerbb · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
And if he doesn't have the hundreds of dollars it costs him to get a dog from the breeder? Is he supposed to not eat?

There is absolutely no one here that agrees with you. Funny that you still think you are right. You are not. You are wrong...

We don't know that to be the case, plus, again, the LW wasn't really complaining about the money. It was incidental.

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
And if he doesn't have the hundreds of dollars it costs him to get a dog from the breeder? Is he supposed to not eat?

There is absolutely no one here that agrees with you. Funny that you still think you are right. You are not. You are wrong...
We don't know that to be the case, plus, again, the LW wasn't really complaining about the money. It was incidental.

Doesn't matter. If I agree to spend xx dollars you don't get to spend more and expect me to just go along. I don't care how much money you have that's the way it works for normal people.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

So husker, if some of the guys at work are ordering lunch and they tell you they're going to go get hamburgers and they come back with a turkey burger for you are you still going to pay for it?

msrock · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
So husker, if some of the guys at work are ordering lunch and they tell you they're going to go get hamburgers and they come back with a turkey burger for you are you still going to pay for it?

biggrin

Tinydancer · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
So husker, if some of the guys at work are ordering lunch and they tell you they're going to go get hamburgers and they come back with a turkey burger for you are you still going to pay for it?

Now that is funny...lololololol

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
So husker, if some of the guys at work are ordering lunch and they tell you they're going to go get hamburgers and they come back with a turkey burger for you are you still going to pay for it?

But that's not the same thing. The comparison would be if we talked about Burger King and they came back with McDonalds. In this case, the dog is the same kind of dog either way. It's just a matter of where they got it. It's like if they talked about a dog and his sisters got a cat.

Now, if they had discussed getting a corgi or at least a small dog and they came back with a Newfoundland, I'd be more sympathetic.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 20th of November 2015 02:02:20 PM

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
And if he doesn't have the hundreds of dollars it costs him to get a dog from the breeder? Is he supposed to not eat?

There is absolutely no one here that agrees with you. Funny that you still think you are right. You are not. You are wrong...
We don't know that to be the case, plus, again, the LW wasn't really complaining about the money. It was incidental.

Doesn't matter. If I agree to spend xx dollars you don't get to spend more and expect me to just go along. I don't care how much money you have that's the way it works for normal people.

They didn't have a set amount they agreed on. The LW doesn't even say that.

Divine Geek · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
So husker, if some of the guys at work are ordering lunch and they tell you they're going to go get hamburgers and they come back with a turkey burger for you are you still going to pay for it?
But that's not the same thing. The comparison would be if we talked about Burger King and they came back with McDonalds. In this case, the dog is the same kind of dog either way. It's just a matter of where they got it. It's like if they talked about a dog and his sisters got a cat.

Now, if they had discussed getting a corgi or at least a small dog and they came back with a Newfoundland, I'd be more sympathetic.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 20th of November 2015 02:02:20 PM

Corgis are awesome. Just saying.....

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

He didn't even agree technically. He said he would help IF... They chose not to listen to him thus forfeited his help.

But it's always cute to watch you argue with everyone else and even more special that you think you're always right.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb wrote:

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I don't see it that way.

I see siblings who agreed to getting a dog and after several attempts at trying it his way, the sisters found a pup. And because it wasn't a rescue, the brother and his fiance are pitching a fit.

It's a gift for his mom. Don't be a douche.
I don't see that in the letter.
flan
I don't see that, either. In fact, it was only TWO DAYS and they had a dog from a breeder. They didn't try the local rescues at all. And he made it clear he did not want a dog from a breeder, therefore he DID NOT agree to a dog from one.
So what? Why does he get to dictate where the dog is gotten from? Why is it of ultimate importance that he agree to the place to get the dog--but not his sisters?

If they want his money, he needs to agree. He did not. Look at it the other way - why do the sisters get to dictate where the dog is gotten from?
Majority vote.

The majority does not have a vote over YOUR money. And, a rescue dog, etc usually isn't going to cost a lot of money. So, this really would not have been a problem if the sisters called and discussed the AMOUNT prior. But, he probably should just pay to keep peace, but then never, ever again go in on them with any group gifts. However, they will probably decide that mom and dad need some big blow out anniversary party and who knows what else and it will be an endless train of "you owe, you owe, you owe" with the sisters deciding to spend on whatever they please.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Yeah, nip that chit in the bud NOW.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

OK, well I didn't bring up abortion so, there ya go! Lol

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Nope. I wouldn't pay. His sisters knew his moral objection to breeders and ignored it and didn't care. They were thoughtless and controlling, and they should not be paid for their arrogant choice against his wishes.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
OK, well I didn't bring up abortion so, there ya go! Lol

Well, maybe they saved the dog from being aborted!

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Nope. I wouldn't pay. His sisters knew his moral objection to breeders and ignored it and didn't care. They were thoughtless and controlling, and they should not be paid for their arrogant choice against his wishes.

This seems pretty clear cut to me. I don't see why any normal non ignorant person can't understand this.

Lindley · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Nope. I wouldn't pay. His sisters knew his moral objection to breeders and ignored it and didn't care. They were thoughtless and controlling, and they should not be paid for their arrogant choice against his wishes.

I agree. He offered to pay other expense for the dog which was fair of him to do that. I also agree with LGS, If he caves and gives them the money then they would go on and plan other things without consulting him and demand money for his part. Now they know they better discuss future group gifts.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Ya'll keep talking about the amount of money.

LW isn't talking about the amount.

LW is talking about who will get it.

LW doesn't want money to go to a breeder.

LW is wanting to teach a lesson.

Tinydancer · Guru

I want husker to pay for something he doesn't want. Not something cheap but a couple of thousand he didn't plan on spending and then come tell us all about it.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
He didn't even agree technically. He said he would help IF... They chose not to listen to him thus forfeited his help.

But it's always cute to watch you argue with everyone else and even more special that you think you're always right.

That's not what the letter said.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
I want husker to pay for something he doesn't want. Not something cheap but a couple of thousand he didn't plan on spending and then come tell us all about it.

They wanted a dog. They even specified the kind of dog. That's the issue.

Whether you get the TV from wal-mart or target makes no difference if it is the same kind of TV.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
I want husker to pay for something he doesn't want. Not something cheap but a couple of thousand he didn't plan on spending and then come tell us all about it.
They wanted a dog. They even specified the kind of dog. That's the issue.
Whether you get the TV from wal-mart or target makes no difference if it is the same kind of TV.

Well, there is the issue. It's NOT the same kind of TV.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Ya'll keep talking about the amount of money.

LW isn't talking about the amount.

LW is talking about who will get it.

LW doesn't want money to go to a breeder.

LW is wanting to teach a lesson.

Exactly. Its not about the money.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Ya'll keep talking about the amount of money.

LW isn't talking about the amount.

LW is talking about who will get it.

LW doesn't want money to go to a breeder.

LW is wanting to teach a lesson.

Exactly. Its not about the money.

And that actually matters MORE.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
I want husker to pay for something he doesn't want. Not something cheap but a couple of thousand he didn't plan on spending and then come tell us all about it.
They wanted a dog. They even specified the kind of dog. That's the issue.
Whether you get the TV from wal-mart or target makes no difference if it is the same kind of TV.
Well, there is the issue. It's NOT the same kind of TV.

Yes it is. A dog is a dog when it's the same breed they talked about. A rescue vs. a breeder is wal-mart vs. target.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I've had dogs from anyone BUT rescues.

The rescues here want to do home visits before and after you get the dog.

Tried to go through the humane society once. They about lost their stuff when they found out we had a dog outside.

Sorry.

Rail and fight all you want.

I'll just go find a dog some where else.

Monster was bought at a pet store.

Pebbles and BamBam were breeder pups.

Andrea was barely 7 days old when her mom was killed and we got her.

Sheba was a mix pup. A chow and Timber wolf.

Cassie was backyard mutt.

We have never been without a dog. And they come from all over.

The hardest place to get a dog from, are those rescues.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Ya'll keep talking about the amount of money.

LW isn't talking about the amount.

LW is talking about who will get it.

LW doesn't want money to go to a breeder.

LW is wanting to teach a lesson.

Exactly. Its not about the money.

But it IS about the money. I wouldn't give my money to an organization/business I had a moral objection to. That would be like the office taking up a collection to give to a charitable organization at Christmas and then deciding they would be giving to Planned Parenthood. No way would they get a dime from me...