TOTALLY GEEKED!

TrudyML wrote:

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Hootie?

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He's one of them!  

Ohfour wrote:

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I mean seriously? How many black people are fans of country music? Do you know how many black country singers there are right now. 2.
One isn't really country, and one is a "country rapper". Black people are not fans of country...

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 No ****.  There's a reason that hip hop radio stations do well in larger cities, whereas they wouldnt do well in rural nebraska or Kansas.

if we see a couple holding hands it's now a bad thing to assume they are a couple?  Stupid.

I I never said one bad word about anyone I described.  Did they surprise me?  Yes--but so what? 

The he only ones that even care are the fools trying to turn innocent situations into something they are not.

Ohfour wrote:

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TrudyML wrote:

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Hootie?

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He's one of them!  

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Love Hootie! 

Ohfour wrote:

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I'm talking about singers that actually make money...and you know, have albums out. Just because you sing cover tunes in some bar does not make you a country singer...

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Ah, so a real country singer is one that makes scads of money. Got it. 

weltschmerz wrote:

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In any case, that was a list of well-known country singers. With chart-topping singles and albums. They wouldn't be well-known if they were just cover bands in little clubs.
Did you even look at it?

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No it wasn't.  Most of those guys don't even HAVE albums out.  And they did NOT have chart topping single.  Some of them PRODUCED chart topping singles.  Producing a song does not make you a singer.

I've heard of three of them.  Cowboy Troy (the country RAPPER), Darius Rucker (he's really not country) and Aaron Neville???????  No one with a brian would consider him a country singer.  The rest are absolute no bodies...They probably bag groceries during the week... 

weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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I'm talking about singers that actually make money...and you know, have albums out. Just because you sing cover tunes in some bar does not make you a country singer...

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Ah, so a real country singer is one that makes scads of money. Got it. 

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Absolutely.  Hell, I sing country, so does Husker.  That does not make us country singers.   

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So, you have a chart-topping single out? Cool! Can you send me a youtube link? 

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I CAN send you a link of my husband singing a #1 song with Lynyrd Skynyrd.  That doesn't make him a Sothern Rock Star...

Lexxy wrote:

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Charlie Pride

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 He was country.  Aaron Neville--no way.

huskerbb wrote:

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Just because you can point to a few exceptions does not make most generalizations wrong.

Mechanics don't wear business suits--so it's a pretty safe assumption that when you see a guy in one, he's either not a mechanic or he's going to a funeral. That's not negative, that's just a fact. If you can find an exception, that doesn't make the generalization wrong.

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 For the record if I had been in the bar with you I would have been surprised when that guy started belting out Waylon too.  I would have expected 50 cent too.  Not that I actually know anything by 50 cent but I would have made the same assumption as you.

weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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In any case, that was a list of well-known country singers. With chart-topping singles and albums. They wouldn't be well-known if they were just cover bands in little clubs.
Did you even look at it?

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No it wasn't.  Most of those guys don't even HAVE albums out.  And they did NOT have chart topping single.  Some of them PRODUCED chart topping singles.  Producing a song does not make you a singer.

 

I've heard of three of them.  Cowboy Troy (the country RAPPER), Darius Rucker (he's really not country) and Aaron Neville???????  No one with a brian would consider him a country singer.  The rest are absolute no bodies...They probably bag groceries during the week... 

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Read the list again. Evidently, you didn't.

Dwight Quick - hits on billboard charts.  Name one.

Trini Triggs - albums and 3 billboard singles. He topped out at 47 in 1998.  Not quite a hit...

Cleve Francis - 3 internationally acclaimed albums and hit singles acclaimed by who?  And he didn't have a hit song

 

 

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huskerbb wrote:

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I can sing me some Charley Pride at karaoke.

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We would like a video posted to YouTube so we can call you a star.  Get on it! 

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huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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burns07 wrote:

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speaking of black women and karaoke--was at a hotel/resort deal in the high desert--some corporate nonsense or other--anyway, after the meetings were over for the day went down to the bar and sat down--sort of the wild west/mexico motif--lots of natural stone, saltillo floor, rough-hewn beams and bar and it's karaoke night--sitting a couple of tables over is a thirty-something black woman--nice looking, nicely dressed and after a few minutes she stands and walks over to my table--as i'm rising and pulling out her chair, she says " i heard you speaking earlier this afternoon. you're a bass for sure. i want you to sing with me. "--sort of laughed and told her was more of a drummer/keyboard guy than a singer but would go ahead and give it a try--asked her what she had in mind--" let me be there " by olivia newton-john, she said--holy hell, had not heard that song in years--" are you sure?" i asked--" oh yeah. we're gonna rock it, blue eyes. "--holy hell--by now there are probably 40 or 50 people in the place and am thinking she's either got some pipes or this is going to really suck--anyway here we go--turns out she's got one of those gospel alto voices that is out of this world and we get to the duet parts and she's on pitch and on time--actually went very well--people getting up and cheering/dancing/clapping, etc.--we did " delta dawn " after that and then sat down for a while--told her that was really fun and she had one hell of a voice--she said " honey when you reached way down for those low ones you raised the hair up on my arms. you were awesome. " guess the moral is you can't judge a book by it's cover--would have never thought that a rather petite lady like that could have a set of pipes that could bring the house down--damned good fun

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 Neat story.  My wife is a really good singer and I, well, sing.  We always have a good time at karaoke.  Good way to meet people.  

 

One time in downtown Orlando we were in a bar that was not crowded to say the least.  A big dude, like 6'6" and 350 lbs., came up and sat with us out of the blue.  He looked like a rapper.  He talked to us for awhile and then said he was going to sing.  I'm thinking "Big Butts" or "Funky Cold Medina"--but he belted out an old Waylon Jennings tune.  

Go figure.  

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 How so? Did he have gold grillz in his mouth and lot of gold chains?

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 Partly.  baggy jeans that were way down.  Earrings.  Not someone you would expect too be a fan of old country music.

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 And yet the only way you chose to describe him is by his height and weight. You immediately followed that description with "he looked like a rapper". You didn't describe him any other way. 

If I saw someone wearing cowboy boots,the only thing I would assume is that they like wearing cowboy boots. You can't assume anything by the way people are dressed. 

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 I'm sorry but it seems you are the only one making this about race. Husker and I have our differences but I would never call him racist. Sexist maybe but never a racist.

WYSIWYG wrote:

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After reading the posts since my previous post in this thread, I'd like to suggest a possibility regarding huskerbb's description of the black gentleman. Is it possible "looked like a rapper" is a description of how he was dressed, and had nothing to do with his height or general build?

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I actually didn't say he was black.  But yeah, it had a lot to do with how he was dressed.   

huskerbb wrote:

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WYSIWYG wrote:

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After reading the posts since my previous post in this thread, I'd like to suggest a possibility regarding huskerbb's description of the black gentleman. Is it possible "looked like a rapper" is a description of how he was dressed, and had nothing to do with his height or general build?

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I actually didn't say he was black.  But yeah, it had a lot to do with how he was dressed.   

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 But you didn't mention how he was dressed at all! You only mentioned his physical characteristics which have nothing to do with how a rapper looks. This is my entire point. I don't have a problem with you describing him by his physical characteristics. That isn't the issue. The issue is when you assume you know something about a person based on how they look. THAT is wrong. 

And for the record, I happen to know quite a few people who run marathons who are overweight. So even what appears to you to be a basic, no nonsense assumption, can be blatantly wrong. 

You shouldn't assume you know anything about a person based on their physical characteristics. That's where we get the saying "don't judge a book by its cover". Kindergarten 101 here. 

Mellow Momma wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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burns07 wrote:

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speaking of black women and karaoke--was at a hotel/resort deal in the high desert--some corporate nonsense or other--anyway, after the meetings were over for the day went down to the bar and sat down--sort of the wild west/mexico motif--lots of natural stone, saltillo floor, rough-hewn beams and bar and it's karaoke night--sitting a couple of tables over is a thirty-something black woman--nice looking, nicely dressed and after a few minutes she stands and walks over to my table--as i'm rising and pulling out her chair, she says " i heard you speaking earlier this afternoon. you're a bass for sure. i want you to sing with me. "--sort of laughed and told her was more of a drummer/keyboard guy than a singer but would go ahead and give it a try--asked her what she had in mind--" let me be there " by olivia newton-john, she said--holy hell, had not heard that song in years--" are you sure?" i asked--" oh yeah. we're gonna rock it, blue eyes. "--holy hell--by now there are probably 40 or 50 people in the place and am thinking she's either got some pipes or this is going to really suck--anyway here we go--turns out she's got one of those gospel alto voices that is out of this world and we get to the duet parts and she's on pitch and on time--actually went very well--people getting up and cheering/dancing/clapping, etc.--we did " delta dawn " after that and then sat down for a while--told her that was really fun and she had one hell of a voice--she said " honey when you reached way down for those low ones you raised the hair up on my arms. you were awesome. " guess the moral is you can't judge a book by it's cover--would have never thought that a rather petite lady like that could have a set of pipes that could bring the house down--damned good fun

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 Neat story.  My wife is a really good singer and I, well, sing.  We always have a good time at karaoke.  Good way to meet people.  

 

One time in downtown Orlando we were in a bar that was not crowded to say the least.  A big dude, like 6'6" and 350 lbs., came up and sat with us out of the blue.  He looked like a rapper.  He talked to us for awhile and then said he was going to sing.  I'm thinking "Big Butts" or "Funky Cold Medina"--but he belted out an old Waylon Jennings tune.  

Go figure.  

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 How so? Did he have gold grillz in his mouth and lot of gold chains?

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 Partly.  baggy jeans that were way down.  Earrings.  Not someone you would expect too be a fan of old country music.

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 And yet the only way you chose to describe him is by his height and weight. You immediately followed that description with "he looked like a rapper". You didn't describe him any other way. 

If I saw someone wearing cowboy boots,the only thing I would assume is that they like wearing cowboy boots. You can't assume anything by the way people are dressed. 

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 I'm sorry but it seems you are the only one making this about race. Husker and I have our differences but I would never call him racist. Sexist maybe but never a racist.

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 I didn't mention race in this post. I don't think husker is intentionally racist at all. I think he can say and think some things that are more racist than he realizes. Racism isn't simply "I hate black people". It is also "he was black so chances are he was unemployed" types of comments that people don't realize are also racist. 

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I never said any such thing.