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CA has strict gun laws, no gun zones, etc.

They just caught the perps I think.

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Everyone at the office is freaking out since its closer to home.


 And that's the thing.

It never really hits home, until it does.

 



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Lindley wrote:

Switzerland carrying guns is legal and they have a low crime rate... world.time.com/2012/12/20/the-swiss-difference-a-gun-culture-that-works/


In Switzerland, men of military age are given guns and carry them. It's how the Swiss Army operates. They don't live on bases. They live at home.

That being said, getting a hand gun is extremely difficult and you can only get a permit if you work in security.

Gun crime is so low that statistics aren't even kept.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/switzerland.asp

 



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weltschmerz wrote:
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There's a problem--but the disagreement comes as to what, exactly, the problem is, what is the appropriate solution(s), or if there even is a solution.


 I don't think there is a solution.


 I'm not sure there is, either. 


 I'm afraid I agree, but what do we do?

Throw up our hands in disgust?

flan


 It is a Moral problem.  The world is eschewing God.  People no longer fear God, death, judgment or Hell.  "there is no fear of God in their eyes" is a common theme in the New Testament when talking about evil.  As a result, people no longer have the ability to Self Govern.  A people who cannot Self Govern cannot survive.  We are on the road to chaos.   Where this will lead to more militarized police and it will just escalate.  Unfortunately, the answer IS morality which does not come from a lecture for the Nanny in Chief but can only come from whence morality comes.  God Himself.


Oh, please. Canada is pretty secular and Quebec is REALLY secular. No God anywhere. We're converted our cathedrals into gyms and condos.

No chaos, and mass murder is extremely rare.

There isn't a single neighbourhood where I'd be afraid to walk in, in the middle of the night, and I don't need to be armed to do it.

So much for your theory.


That has to be the saddest statement I have ever read.

 

But here is the thing.

 

Once you've evicted God, Satan has no need to cause problems. 

 

 

 

 



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Satan doesn't exist, either.

You can write it in really big fonts, but the fact remains that we got rid of religions and live in safety and peace.

Mostly. There are always a few mentally ill people around.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Wednesday 2nd of December 2015 06:55:26 PM

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Of course, dear.

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Well, if that means Satan got his evil hooks into us, bring it on. People get along and don't shoot each other at the drop of a hat.

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weltschmerz wrote:

Satan doesn't exist, either.

You can write it in really big fonts, but the fact remains that we got rid of religions and live in safety and peace.

Mostly. There are always a few mentally ill people around.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Wednesday 2nd of December 2015 06:55:26 PM


 Big fonts make her feel important.

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weltschmerz wrote:

Well, if that means Satan got his evil hooks into us, bring it on. People get along and don't shoot each other at the drop of a hat.


 Except in America.

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flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:

Satan doesn't exist, either.

You can write it in really big fonts, but the fact remains that we got rid of religions and live in safety and peace.

Mostly. There are always a few mentally ill people around.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Wednesday 2nd of December 2015 06:55:26 PM


 Big fonts make her feel important.

flan


 Does snarking on Lily make you feel important?



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flan327 wrote:
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Well, if that means Satan got his evil hooks into us, bring it on. People get along and don't shoot each other at the drop of a hat.


 Except in America.

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 For the most part, the bolded holds true for America too. Not everyone is a nutbag.



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chef wrote:
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weltschmerz wrote:

Satan doesn't exist, either.

You can write it in really big fonts, but the fact remains that we got rid of religions and live in safety and peace.

Mostly. There are always a few mentally ill people around.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Wednesday 2nd of December 2015 06:55:26 PM


 Big fonts make her feel important.

flan


 Does snarking on Lily make you feel important?


 Hallelujah! I have seen the light!

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Intentional ignorance makes me stabby.

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flan327 wrote:
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flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:

Satan doesn't exist, either.

You can write it in really big fonts, but the fact remains that we got rid of religions and live in safety and peace.

Mostly. There are always a few mentally ill people around.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Wednesday 2nd of December 2015 06:55:26 PM


 Big fonts make her feel important.

flan


 Does snarking on Lily make you feel important?


 Hallelujah! I have seen the light!

flan


 Another non-answer. No surprise.



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Intentional ignorance makes me stabby.

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 Better hide your knives then ...



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weltschmerz wrote:

Satan doesn't exist, either.

You can write it in really big fonts, but the fact remains that we got rid of religions and live in safety and peace.

Mostly. There are always a few mentally ill people around.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Wednesday 2nd of December 2015 06:55:26 PM


 You like changing your posts don't you. Adding to them. Taking away from them.

 

I don't know why the font was like that. If you notice, it has a grey background as well.

So go ahead and talk about font if you want. 

Fact is, you've turned your heart from God. You've hardened your heart to God. 

 



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Ephesians 4:18

They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart.

Matthew 13:14-15

Indeed, in their case the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled that says: “‘You will indeed hear but never understand, and you will indeed see but never perceive. For this people's heart has grown dull, and with their ears they can barely hear, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand with their heart and turn, and I would heal them.’

John 12:48

The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.



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Of course, dear.


Yes, of course, dear.

Montreal has a population of 3.6 million. Our annual homicide rate is around 28. Name me any American city with that large a population with a homicide rate of 28. Any one will do.

That shoots your "Godless" theory right down.

You should all be so Godless.



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Kennessy Georgia... Isn't that guntown USA where everyone is reqired to own a gun and crime rate went wayyyyy down?

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Quote all the scripture you want, but the fact remains that our Godless society doesn't go around killing each other like you do.

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Kennessy Georgia... Isn't that guntown USA where everyone is reqired to own a gun and crime rate went wayyyyy down?


Does it have a population of 3.6 million? 



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It doesn't need to have the same population.

You don't have a working understanding of statistics, do you.



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Welts it's on its way to you. Stay tuned.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

It doesn't need to have the same population.

You don't have a working understanding of statistics, do you.


 She doesn't  have a working understanding...period. She's a lib. They aren't  known for rationale...



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Welts the thing that makes America great may also be our undoing. We valu rugged individiualism versus the state-run mentality. While great things have come from that there are also some bad apples.

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It doesn't need to have the same population.

You don't have a working understanding of statistics, do you.


 And you do?

LOLOL

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And how many of the Countries in the stats shut down their mentally disable facilities decades ago? I hear that many countries, especially the mid east and AFrica, kill the mentally insane. The US does not have those facilities any longer.

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So much for Dum dum protecting us. I am sure he gave a stern press conference.

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So much for Dum dum protecting us. I am sure he gave a stern press conference.


 

he did! Said again we need commonsense gun control laws.  We have them.  The problem is he has encouraged the DAs to not prosecute for crimes with guns.  What is happening is someone is arrested for armed robbery and has drugs on them.  Then everything is plea bargained down to a drug possession so there is no trial.  So many of these peeps in jail actually have illegal guns but only get 2 years or such on a drug infraction and then get released and go right back out there with their illegal guns.  It's true.  Look it up!



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flan327 wrote:
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It doesn't need to have the same population.

You don't have a working understanding of statistics, do you.


 And you do?

LOLOL

flan


 I do.  Wanna debate stats?  I'm  game...



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Ohfour wrote:
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It doesn't need to have the same population.

You don't have a working understanding of statistics, do you.


 And you do?

LOLOL

flan


 I do.  Wanna debate stats?  I'm  game...


 I doubt it.

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If you want to use statics to compare a city of 32,000 to one with 1.65 mil, Ok.

Kennesaw 32,000 with 1 murder is 3.125 murders per 100,000.

Montreal 1.65 mil with 28 muredrs is 1.69 murders per 100,000.



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DH has had continuous coverage of it on since I got home. I've been watching the same footage over and over and over for about six hours now. I can see how people are driven crazy enough to do something like this.

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I just heard that of the two killed, one was a woman..

... in a burka.

It could be wrong, but.. damn.

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cadiver wrote:

If you want to use statics to compare a city of 32,000 to one with 1.65 mil, Ok.

Kennesaw 32,000 with 1 murder is 3.125 murders per 100,000.

Montreal 1.65 mil with 28 muredrs is 1.69 murders per 100,000.


Montreal has a population of 3.82 million.  



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who really gives a damn what goes on in canada? they're more people living in ca or tx alone than nearly their whole damn country

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who really gives a damn what goes on in canada? they're more people living in ca or tx alone than nearly their whole damn country


 Exactly....



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Satan doesn't exist, either.

You can write it in really big fonts, but the fact remains that we got rid of religions and live in safety and peace.

Mostly. There are always a few mentally ill people around.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Wednesday 2nd of December 2015 06:55:26 PM


 You like changing your posts don't you. Adding to them. Taking away from them.

 

I don't know why the font was like that. If you notice, it has a grey background as well.

So go ahead and talk about font if you want. 

Fact is, you've turned your heart from God. You've hardened your heart to God. 

 


That means about as much sense as my saying you've hardened your heart to Spiderman.

(And when you see an edit, it's usually because I've noticed a spelling mistake. I don't like spelling mistakes.)

 



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WILL say this about canadians--have had the privelege of working with some of their armed forces and they are among the bravest, most capable on this planet--sincerely hope they will join us in eliminating ( not incarcerating ) ISIS and their ilk--between our two countries, we can go a long way indeed to safeguarding north america from those bastards



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who really gives a damn what goes on in canada? they're more people living in ca or tx alone than nearly their whole damn country


 Exactly....


That's adorable. When I say you don't need God to be a safe and peaceful country, you counter with "Oh, nobody gives a damn about Canada", because you don't really have a cogent argument.



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WILL say this about canadians--have had the privelege of working with some of their armed forces and they are among the bravest, most capable on this planet--sincerely hope they will join us in eliminating ( not incarcerating ) ISIS and their ilk--between our two countries, we can go a long way indeed to safeguarding north america from those bastards


Thank you. They're exceptionally well trained. 



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My DH is a news junkie. He started listening to the news when this happened and he hasn't stopped yet. He'll go to be about seven am and watch the news the whole time. I love the latest news reporter that said, "We don't need any evidence to convict him..." Ugh. All these reporters are so dramatic and carry on. No wonder why people do this. They get their name in the news for weeks on end.

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I just heard that of the two killed, one was a woman..

... in a burka.

It could be wrong, but.. damn.


 Her BF or husband worked for the organization holding the event.  He was at the event and for some reason became angry.  He must have left and come back since he was shot wearing his terrorist gear.  When the story is put together, it will be interesting.  



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Ahh, he went to Saudi single last year and brought back a wife, the one killed. Pipe bombs on their house, at least one exploded. This was planned obviously. Terrorism, yep.

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DH has had continuous coverage of it on since I got home. I've been watching the same footage over and over and over for about six hours now. I can see how people are driven crazy enough to do something like this.


 Who or what is driving you crazy?  



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who really gives a damn what goes on in canada? they're more people living in ca or tx alone than nearly their whole damn country


 Exactly....


That's adorable. When I say you don't need God to be a safe and peaceful country, you counter with "Oh, nobody gives a damn about Canada", because you don't really have a cogent argument.


   They weren't the ones making that argument.  I did.  As for God, everyone has the "law of God written on their hearts".  In other words, we all inerently know what is evil.  So, everyone has the capacity to do good.  Evil exists and yet the vast majority of people are not as evil as they could possibly be.  You seem to think that it is an "all or nothing thing".  It's not.  Atheists and everyone else inherently know good from evil.  So, most people do want to be "good" people.  Why?   Because that is the Nature of God.  



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Don't people realize that criminals are called criminals BECAUSE THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE LAW. So make more laws they won't follow while disarming the very people who would save your sorry asses if they were allowed to carry. That's not logical it's wishful thinking.

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Don't people realize that criminals are called criminals BECAUSE THEY DON'T FOLLOW THE LAW. So make more laws they won't follow while disarming the very people who would save your sorry asses if they were allowed to carry. That's not logical it's wishful thinking.


 So, in other words, they don't have a cogent argument?  biggrin



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Sometimes you have to explain it to them with simple words...lol

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And follow every statement with "lol"

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