TOTALLY GEEKED!

weltschmerz wrote:

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Are you saying that Canadians should have easy access to hand guns? Oh, hell no!
We don't want to become a violent, gun-obsessed culture. Why would we want that?

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 Seeing that you seem to be obsessed with us, it is only natural. 

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Tinydancer wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Tinydancer wrote:

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Fort Worth Mom wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Yes. I did ask that question.

And no. More gun control is not what is needed.

Gun requirement is what is needed.

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Lol! yes, of course. The solution to gun violence is more guns.

Just like the solution to the meth problem is more meth. 

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 It's not the same thing, welts.

Having gun free zones, like schools, stadiums, movie theaters, etc. Makes the general population, a sitting duck, for a madman with a gun.

If all the people, who have a license to carry, actually carried their guns, they could take out a crazy person, in a school. Or a stadium. Or a movie theater.

JMHO

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I can just see myself dragging my hunting rifle around when I go to the movies or go shopping. 

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 So don't, but why stop your neighbor from keeping his family safe. Just because it's not important for you to protect your family doesn't mean I won't do what I have to to keep mine safe.

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There's absolutely nothing stopping my neighbour from getting a rifle or shotgun to keep his family safe.

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 Exactly. Are you really not able to see? Well when they're killing your family I'll stand aside so as not to hurt your sensibilities.

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What in god's name are you babbling about? 

I HAVE GUNS.

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 Not when you're at work or the movies, planned parenthood, church (haha), lunch, walking down the street. Unless you plan to carry a legally obtained conceal carry handgun. Stop with the rifle crap. It's disingenuous and really rather unneeded.

Perhaps we should turn all our anger against those that are actually wanting us dead. Just saying.

Tinydancer wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Tinydancer wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Tinydancer wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Fort Worth Mom wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Yes. I did ask that question.

And no. More gun control is not what is needed.

Gun requirement is what is needed.

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Lol! yes, of course. The solution to gun violence is more guns.

Just like the solution to the meth problem is more meth. 

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 It's not the same thing, welts.

Having gun free zones, like schools, stadiums, movie theaters, etc. Makes the general population, a sitting duck, for a madman with a gun.

If all the people, who have a license to carry, actually carried their guns, they could take out a crazy person, in a school. Or a stadium. Or a movie theater.

JMHO

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I can just see myself dragging my hunting rifle around when I go to the movies or go shopping. 

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 So don't, but why stop your neighbor from keeping his family safe. Just because it's not important for you to protect your family doesn't mean I won't do what I have to to keep mine safe.

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There's absolutely nothing stopping my neighbour from getting a rifle or shotgun to keep his family safe.

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 Exactly. Are you really not able to see? Well when they're killing your family I'll stand aside so as not to hurt your sensibilities.

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What in god's name are you babbling about? 

I HAVE GUNS.

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 Not when you're at work or the movies, planned parenthood, church (haha), lunch, walking down the street. Unless you plan to carry a legally obtained conceal carry handgun. Stop with the rifle crap. It's disingenuous and really rather unneeded.

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Why the HELL would I need a gun in those places? 

weltschmerz wrote:

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Why the HELL would I need a gun in those places? 

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 Simple. To protect yourself against a criminal (who doesn't care about gun laws anyway) opening fire in one of those places.

Some whackaloon in Colorado opened fire in a theater. Aurora, CO, I believe. I bet those people would've loved to be able to fire back instead of being soft targets.

Tinydancer wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Are you saying that Canadians should have easy access to hand guns? Oh, hell no!
We don't want to become a violent, gun-obsessed culture. Why would we want that?

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 The majority of posters here...

flan

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 Again. Just wait for those who have some balls to come protect you. I don't even know itty bitty but I'd protect her with everything I had if necessary. Oh wait. Crying and begging won't save her. What should I DO. When you're dead all these politically correct answers you give won't save itty bitty or you so what do you propose? When you can tell me how you'll keep your family safe when the criminals won't follow the new laws then I'll listen. Until then you continue to be a soft target and I'll protect my family.

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 I could NOT care less what you think or do.

flan

I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about this topic. Criminals don't care about laws. Law-abiding citizens NOT being allowed to have guns means criminals KNOW they will have a much easier time "winning" during commission of their crimes, especially when their intent is to kill you.

I don't like guns. I wish we didn't need them. I wish people didn't feel the need to commit crimes. But I'd be astoundingly ignorant to even think for one second that taking away guns from GOOD people is a good thing. Thank God, I'm not ignorant on that point. And, frankly, the way this world is going, I may just look into classes to become a smart, informed, and trained gun owner. I refuse to be a sitting duck.

Btw, pretending to be asleep if someone breaks into your house won't help you if they're intent on harming you. Having dogs won't help you either. Someone intent on breaking in will just shoot your dogs and you to avoid you squealing on them. You being a bed makes you a real easy target.

Dogs are deterrent and that's it. They're not a guarantee of safety.

chef wrote:

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Btw, pretending to be asleep if someone breaks into your house won't help you if they're intent on harming you. Having dogs won't help you either. Someone intent on breaking in will just shoot your dogs and you to avoid you squealing on them. You being a bed makes you a real easy target.

Dogs are deterrent and that's it. They're not a guarantee of safety.

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 I realize that...BUT our house looks like what it is: a house in need of repair. We park our cars in the driveway & anyone with any sense would know that we DON'T have money.

flan

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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If flan doesn't want to carry a gun then that is her right. She has that right just as much as everyone else has the right TO carry.

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 I have thought about having DS2 take me to a shooting range. Maybe some day...

flan

flan327 wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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If flan doesn't want to carry a gun then that is her right. She has that right just as much as everyone else has the right TO carry.

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 I have thought about having DS2 take me to a shooting range. Maybe some day...

flan

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 I don't carry.  DH does.  I have no issue with it.  Everyone in the house has been trained to shoot.  I'm a pretty darn good shot.

weltschmerz wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Are you saying that Canadians should have easy access to hand guns? Oh, hell no!
We don't want to become a violent, gun-obsessed culture. Why would we want that?

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 Seeing that you seem to be obsessed with us, it is only natural. 

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Because I post here, I'm obsessed with you? OK, you run with that. 

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 No you are obsessed with America.  Apparently you need to look at us to find things to complain about from the Kardashians to politics.  You sure seem obsessed with the culture you rail about.

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chef wrote:

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Btw, pretending to be asleep if someone breaks into your house won't help you if they're intent on harming you. Having dogs won't help you either. Someone intent on breaking in will just shoot your dogs and you to avoid you squealing on them. You being a bed makes you a real easy target.

Dogs are deterrent and that's it. They're not a guarantee of safety.

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 I realize that...BUT our house looks like what it is: a house in need of repair. We park our cars in the driveway & anyone with any sense would know that we DON'T have money.

flan

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 So? You have stuff. Stuff that can be sold for money. Your cars can be parted out for way more money than if they were sold as a whole vehicle. TVs, computers, jewelry, etc. ... all can be sold for money.

Don't be naïve, Flan.

Here. Take a look at the victims. Then think of all the blood that is going to be shed thanks to Obamas policies. He owns this.

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chef wrote:

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Btw, pretending to be asleep if someone breaks into your house won't help you if they're intent on harming you. Having dogs won't help you either. Someone intent on breaking in will just shoot your dogs and you to avoid you squealing on them. You being a bed makes you a real easy target.

Dogs are deterrent and that's it. They're not a guarantee of safety.

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BTW, pretending to be asleep, has saved a lot of people, chef.

If all they want to do is rob you, play dead/asleep.

Let them take your stuff.

A Professional burglar, will never hit a house that is occupied.

And, he will never be armed.

He will wait and watch, until everyone has left the house.

He will be in and out, in 3 minutes, or less. 

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 And I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about those who are intent on harming you. Think home invasion.

Also, you have no way of knowing if a burglar, professional or otherwise, is armed or not.

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flan327 wrote:

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chef wrote:

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Btw, pretending to be asleep if someone breaks into your house won't help you if they're intent on harming you. Having dogs won't help you either. Someone intent on breaking in will just shoot your dogs and you to avoid you squealing on them. You being a bed makes you a real easy target.

Dogs are deterrent and that's it. They're not a guarantee of safety.

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 I realize that...BUT our house looks like what it is: a house in need of repair. We park our cars in the driveway & anyone with any sense would know that we DON'T have money.

flan

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 So? You have stuff. Stuff that can be sold for money. Your cars can be parted out for way more money than if they were sold as a whole vehicle. TVs, computers, jewelry, etc. ... all can be sold for money.

Don't be naïve, Flan.

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 I don't HAVE any jewelry, except cheap costume stuff...2 TV's, one computer, one (cheap) laptop...

But thanks for calling me names.

flan

Fort Worth Mom wrote:

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chef wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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chef wrote:

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Btw, pretending to be asleep if someone breaks into your house won't help you if they're intent on harming you. Having dogs won't help you either. Someone intent on breaking in will just shoot your dogs and you to avoid you squealing on them. You being a bed makes you a real easy target.

Dogs are deterrent and that's it. They're not a guarantee of safety.

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 I realize that...BUT our house looks like what it is: a house in need of repair. We park our cars in the driveway & anyone with any sense would know that we DON'T have money.

flan

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 So? You have stuff. Stuff that can be sold for money. Your cars can be parted out for way more money than if they were sold as a whole vehicle. TVs, computers, jewelry, etc. ... all can be sold for money.

Don't be naïve, Flan.

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 Don't be a fear monger, chef.

It's very rare, that an occupied house, is robbed.

A Pro, will watch and wait. Hit the house, when no one is home.

If, your house is broken in to, while you are at home.

Chances are, you are dealing with a young drug addict. Looking for something to steal, to sell for drugs.

Play asleep, let them take the computer, and TV.

They will kill you for 50 cents.

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 I'm not being a fear monger.

I have the "right" to feel any way I want, tyvm.

flan

flan327 wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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If flan doesn't want to carry a gun then that is her right. She has that right just as much as everyone else has the right TO carry.

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 I have thought about having DS2 take me to a shooting range. Maybe some day...

flan

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 You might enjoy it flan. I was scared  of j guns till I learn I learned how to hold a gun and how to shoot  a gun.  You might want to take a gun and safety  course.

weltschmerz wrote:

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Tinydancer wrote:

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chef wrote:

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Why the HELL would I need a gun in those places? 

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 Simple. To protect yourself against a criminal (who doesn't care about gun laws anyway) opening fire in one of those places.

Some whackaloon in Colorado opened fire in a theater. Aurora, CO, I believe. I bet those people would've loved to be able to fire back instead of being soft targets.

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 Nope! They're sheep led to the slaughter. Pretending crazy people don't want to kill you is their prerogative. My prerogative is to protect my family. Survival of the fittest after all.

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Try to understand something. The majority of those 28 out of 3.8M are Mafia retributions, like the son of a Capo being found shot dead in his Mercedes during a turf war. Many others are domestic violence leading to homicide.

Dying at the hands of strangers is exceedingly rare here. If we legalized hand guns, more people would die of gun accidents than would die at the hands of strangers with murder in their hearts.

Of this, I have no doubt.

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 If you have a gun & an argument escalates in your home, guess what may happen...

I'll be patient.

flan

Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Tinydancer wrote:

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chef wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Why the HELL would I need a gun in those places? 

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 Simple. To protect yourself against a criminal (who doesn't care about gun laws anyway) opening fire in one of those places.

Some whackaloon in Colorado opened fire in a theater. Aurora, CO, I believe. I bet those people would've loved to be able to fire back instead of being soft targets.

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 Nope! They're sheep led to the slaughter. Pretending crazy people don't want to kill you is their prerogative. My prerogative is to protect my family. Survival of the fittest after all.

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Try to understand something. The majority of those 28 out of 3.8M are Mafia retributions, like the son of a Capo being found shot dead in his Mercedes during a turf war. Many others are domestic violence leading to homicide.

Dying at the hands of strangers is exceedingly rare here. If we legalized hand guns, more people would die of gun accidents than would die at the hands of strangers with murder in their hearts.

Of this, I have no doubt.

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 If you have a gun & an argument escalates in your home, guess what may happen...

I'll be patient.

flan

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 Uber lib welts has guns. That should tell you something.  

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 It tells me that she lives in a rural area AND she is capable of thinking for herself...

flan

flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Tinydancer wrote:

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chef wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Why the HELL would I need a gun in those places? 

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 Simple. To protect yourself against a criminal (who doesn't care about gun laws anyway) opening fire in one of those places.

Some whackaloon in Colorado opened fire in a theater. Aurora, CO, I believe. I bet those people would've loved to be able to fire back instead of being soft targets.

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 Nope! They're sheep led to the slaughter. Pretending crazy people don't want to kill you is their prerogative. My prerogative is to protect my family. Survival of the fittest after all.

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Try to understand something. The majority of those 28 out of 3.8M are Mafia retributions, like the son of a Capo being found shot dead in his Mercedes during a turf war. Many others are domestic violence leading to homicide.

Dying at the hands of strangers is exceedingly rare here. If we legalized hand guns, more people would die of gun accidents than would die at the hands of strangers with murder in their hearts.

Of this, I have no doubt.

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 If you have a gun & an argument escalates in your home, guess what may happen...

I'll be patient.

flan

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 Uber lib welts has guns. That should tell you something.  

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 It tells me that she lives in a rural area AND she is capable of thinking for herself...

flan

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I live smack in the middle of a big city. The guns were my dad's. I inherited them.

I do bring one up when I go up north to the bush. Bears.

 

flan327 wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Tinydancer wrote:

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chef wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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Why the HELL would I need a gun in those places? 

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 Simple. To protect yourself against a criminal (who doesn't care about gun laws anyway) opening fire in one of those places.

Some whackaloon in Colorado opened fire in a theater. Aurora, CO, I believe. I bet those people would've loved to be able to fire back instead of being soft targets.

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 Nope! They're sheep led to the slaughter. Pretending crazy people don't want to kill you is their prerogative. My prerogative is to protect my family. Survival of the fittest after all.

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Try to understand something. The majority of those 28 out of 3.8M are Mafia retributions, like the son of a Capo being found shot dead in his Mercedes during a turf war. Many others are domestic violence leading to homicide.

Dying at the hands of strangers is exceedingly rare here. If we legalized hand guns, more people would die of gun accidents than would die at the hands of strangers with murder in their hearts.

Of this, I have no doubt.

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 If you have a gun & an argument escalates in your home, guess what may happen...

I'll be patient.

flan

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 Patient about what?  There are hundreds of millions of gun in this country.  People have arguments everyday.  

flan327 wrote:

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You people ever listen to the news? Some guy in Texas got shot because of an argument about ribs...

People with guns kill people.

flan

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 OK?  And, they kill with knives, strangulation and lots of other ways.  We have laws against murder too.  So, why hasn't murder stopped.  Do we need more murder laws?  We need tougher murder laws!