TOTALLY GEEKED!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

RE: Whats your opinion on this?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Apparently saying soemething is natural or part of life means that anything goes now? Oh it's 'natural", blah blah. So what?

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Good grief, the level of insensitivity is unreal here.

The class project was for each child to bring photo's of his/her life and family.

Are you saying this stillborn child is NOT a part of his life and family?

It is common now for families to take "family" pictures during the time of the loss at birth. Those pictures are the only thing they have left of the lost child.

So, other 7 year olds should NOT be exposed to another family's loss, right? Is death not a part of learning?

The 7 year old, who brought the picture, should NOT think of his lost brother as part of his family, right?

IMHO, the pictures were not gross, but rather sad, of a family in the process of grieving.

In the picture with the 7 year old smiling, he was looking at someone else. It's possible that someone said something that made him smile. Good gosh, some are turning loss into something to be hidden forever, because YOU don't want to deal with it.

Times are changing concerning death. I've seen lots of pictures with "faded" images of loved ones. Some are very touching. I saw one recently of a young pregnant lady, who's husband had been killed in a car wreck weeks before, with a faded image of her husband kissing her check as she stood alone.

Death is a part of life. I saw nothing wrong with the boys project.

I bet he feels his brother has been rejected by his teacher and the class. How awful. His brother, even in death, is still a part of his family and family history.

JMHO

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

just Czech wrote:
Good grief, the level of insensitivity is unreal here.

The class project was for each child to bring photo's of his/her life and family.

Are you saying this stillborn child is NOT a part of his life and family?

It is common now for families to take "family" pictures during the time of the loss at birth. Those pictures are the only thing they have left of the lost child.

So, other 7 year olds should NOT be exposed to another family's loss, right? Is death not a part of learning?

The 7 year old, who brought the picture, should NOT think of his lost brother as part of his family, right?

IMHO, the pictures were not gross, but rather sad, of a family in the process of grieving.

In the picture with the 7 year old smiling, he was looking at someone else. It's possible that someone said something that made him smile. Good gosh, some are turning loss into something to be hidden forever, because YOU don't want to deal with it.

Times are changing concerning death. I've seen lots of pictures with "faded" images of loved ones. Some are very touching. I saw one recently of a young pregnant lady, who's husband had been killed in a car wreck weeks before, with a faded image of her husband kissing her check as she stood alone.

Death is a part of life. I saw nothing wrong with the boys project.

I bet he feels his brother has been rejected by his teacher and the class. How awful. His brother, even in death, is still a part of his family and family history.

JMHO

Good grief what? Nobody is 'invalidating" his life just because this isn't shared to a class of 7 yr olds.

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
Good grief, the level of insensitivity is unreal here.

The class project was for each child to bring photo's of his/her life and family.

Are you saying this stillborn child is NOT a part of his life and family?

It is common now for families to take "family" pictures during the time of the loss at birth. Those pictures are the only thing they have left of the lost child.

So, other 7 year olds should NOT be exposed to another family's loss, right? Is death not a part of learning?

The 7 year old, who brought the picture, should NOT think of his lost brother as part of his family, right?

IMHO, the pictures were not gross, but rather sad, of a family in the process of grieving.

In the picture with the 7 year old smiling, he was looking at someone else. It's possible that someone said something that made him smile. Good gosh, some are turning loss into something to be hidden forever, because YOU don't want to deal with it.

Times are changing concerning death. I've seen lots of pictures with "faded" images of loved ones. Some are very touching. I saw one recently of a young pregnant lady, who's husband had been killed in a car wreck weeks before, with a faded image of her husband kissing her check as she stood alone.

Death is a part of life. I saw nothing wrong with the boys project.

I bet he feels his brother has been rejected by his teacher and the class. How awful. His brother, even in death, is still a part of his family and family history.

JMHO

No. the child is not a part of the family.

my mom lost two children at birth--and both were born alive. They were special to her, but in no way were they truly a part of our family when we were growing up.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I disagree Husker. That child IS part of their family. I am sorry you can't find the loss of other sibs to be something that is part of your family history and therefore important to you.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I disagree Husker. That child IS part of their family. I am sorry you can't find the loss of other sibs to be something that is part of your family history and therefore important to you.

That child will never know that sibling. It's in no way, shape, or form the same thing as growing up with a sibling for even a few years, or a few months, even.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I disagree Husker. That child IS part of their family. I am sorry you can't find the loss of other sibs to be something that is part of your family history and therefore important to you.

He would need to FEAL an emotional connection to his lost sisters. They were born alive, but he never saw them, so to him, they are irrelevant.

huskerbb · Guru

Losing those babies broke my mom's heart. Yet even now, when asked how many kids she has, she'll say four--well, I had five but one died in a car accident.

She doesn't say--well, I had 7, but...

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 10:15:13 AM

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
Good grief, the level of insensitivity is unreal here.

The class project was for each child to bring photo's of his/her life and family.

Are you saying this stillborn child is NOT a part of his life and family?

It is common now for families to take "family" pictures during the time of the loss at birth. Those pictures are the only thing they have left of the lost child.

So, other 7 year olds should NOT be exposed to another family's loss, right? Is death not a part of learning?

The 7 year old, who brought the picture, should NOT think of his lost brother as part of his family, right?

IMHO, the pictures were not gross, but rather sad, of a family in the process of grieving.

In the picture with the 7 year old smiling, he was looking at someone else. It's possible that someone said something that made him smile. Good gosh, some are turning loss into something to be hidden forever, because YOU don't want to deal with it.

Times are changing concerning death. I've seen lots of pictures with "faded" images of loved ones. Some are very touching. I saw one recently of a young pregnant lady, who's husband had been killed in a car wreck weeks before, with a faded image of her husband kissing her check as she stood alone.

Death is a part of life. I saw nothing wrong with the boys project.

I bet he feels his brother has been rejected by his teacher and the class. How awful. His brother, even in death, is still a part of his family and family history.

JMHO
No. the child is not a part of the family.

my mom lost two children at birth--and both were born alive. They were special to her, but in no way were they truly a part of our family when we were growing up.

The story of the seven year old is not about you.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
Losing those babies broke my mom's heart. Yet even now, when asked how many kids she has, she'll say four--well, I had five but one died in a car accident.

She doesn't say--well, I had 7, but...

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 10:15:13 AM

The younger generations does, so what's your point?

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
Good grief, the level of insensitivity is unreal here.

The class project was for each child to bring photo's of his/her life and family.

Are you saying this stillborn child is NOT a part of his life and family?

It is common now for families to take "family" pictures during the time of the loss at birth. Those pictures are the only thing they have left of the lost child.

So, other 7 year olds should NOT be exposed to another family's loss, right? Is death not a part of learning?

The 7 year old, who brought the picture, should NOT think of his lost brother as part of his family, right?

IMHO, the pictures were not gross, but rather sad, of a family in the process of grieving.

In the picture with the 7 year old smiling, he was looking at someone else. It's possible that someone said something that made him smile. Good gosh, some are turning loss into something to be hidden forever, because YOU don't want to deal with it.

Times are changing concerning death. I've seen lots of pictures with "faded" images of loved ones. Some are very touching. I saw one recently of a young pregnant lady, who's husband had been killed in a car wreck weeks before, with a faded image of her husband kissing her check as she stood alone.

Death is a part of life. I saw nothing wrong with the boys project.

I bet he feels his brother has been rejected by his teacher and the class. How awful. His brother, even in death, is still a part of his family and family history.

JMHO
No. the child is not a part of the family.

my mom lost two children at birth--and both were born alive. They were special to her, but in no way were they truly a part of our family when we were growing up.
The story of the seven year old is not about you.

So what? That child was just doing what his parents told him--not what he felt.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, I can't speak for your mother. However, many mothers who have lost children simply say that because it is just something they don't want to have to explain all the time. You seem to intrepret that as meaning those children are of no importance. I don't think that is the case at all. Those children are important. I don't see how you can be pro life yet be so glib about lives lost. Wow.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
Good grief, the level of insensitivity is unreal here.

The class project was for each child to bring photo's of his/her life and family.

Are you saying this stillborn child is NOT a part of his life and family?

It is common now for families to take "family" pictures during the time of the loss at birth. Those pictures are the only thing they have left of the lost child.

So, other 7 year olds should NOT be exposed to another family's loss, right? Is death not a part of learning?

The 7 year old, who brought the picture, should NOT think of his lost brother as part of his family, right?

IMHO, the pictures were not gross, but rather sad, of a family in the process of grieving.

In the picture with the 7 year old smiling, he was looking at someone else. It's possible that someone said something that made him smile. Good gosh, some are turning loss into something to be hidden forever, because YOU don't want to deal with it.

Times are changing concerning death. I've seen lots of pictures with "faded" images of loved ones. Some are very touching. I saw one recently of a young pregnant lady, who's husband had been killed in a car wreck weeks before, with a faded image of her husband kissing her check as she stood alone.

Death is a part of life. I saw nothing wrong with the boys project.

I bet he feels his brother has been rejected by his teacher and the class. How awful. His brother, even in death, is still a part of his family and family history.

JMHO
No. the child is not a part of the family.

my mom lost two children at birth--and both were born alive. They were special to her, but in no way were they truly a part of our family when we were growing up.
The story of the seven year old is not about you.
So what? That child was just doing what his parents told him--not what he felt.

And the other 7 year olds in the class didn't do what their parents told them? Yeah, right.

huskerbb · Guru

They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.

Maybe none of their families had suffered a loss either.

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.
Maybe none of their families had suffered a loss either.

Some undoubtedly had, but you don't gather around the casket of a dead relative to take a picture.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.
Maybe none of their families had suffered a loss either.
Some undoubtedly had, but you don't gather around the casket of a dead relative to take a picture.

This isn't a casket.

Try harder.

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.
Maybe none of their families had suffered a loss either.
Some undoubtedly had, but you don't gather around the casket of a dead relative to take a picture.
This isn't a casket.
Try harder.

LOL!

um, they put dead people in caskets. But have it your way. are you going to go get a family picture with your dead relative BEFORE they put them in the casket?

if you have one of those, why haven't I seen it?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 10:35:26 AM

TrudyML · Guru

Husker she is going to do it to YOU!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.
Maybe none of their families had suffered a loss either.
Some undoubtedly had, but you don't gather around the casket of a dead relative to take a picture.
This isn't a casket.
Try harder.
LOL!
um, they put dead people in caskets. But have it your way. are you going to go get a family picture with your dead relative BEFORE they put them in the casket?
if you have one of those, why haven't I seen it?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 10:35:26 AM

What is your point? This was a stillborn baby and they took pictures in the hospital immediately after mom gave birth to this child. Sheesh.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.
Maybe none of their families had suffered a loss either.
Some undoubtedly had, but you don't gather around the casket of a dead relative to take a picture.
This isn't a casket.
Try harder.
LOL!
um, they put dead people in caskets. But have it your way. are you going to go get a family picture with your dead relative BEFORE they put them in the casket?
if you have one of those, why haven't I seen it?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 10:35:26 AM

I don't share by choice.

DS has pictures of his birthmother's six month old sister, should I share those?

No, they are his pictures to share, not mine.

You really have no understanding of the grief process for infant loss.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.
Maybe none of their families had suffered a loss either.
Some undoubtedly had, but you don't gather around the casket of a dead relative to take a picture.
This isn't a casket.
Try harder.
LOL!
um, they put dead people in caskets. But have it your way. are you going to go get a family picture with your dead relative BEFORE they put them in the casket?
if you have one of those, why haven't I seen it?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 10:35:26 AM
What is your point? This was a stillborn baby and they took pictures in the hospital immediately after mom gave birth to this child. Sheesh.

The point is that it's not normal. Even in cases where people have such pictures, they don't prominently display them.

if they wantto have a pic for their personal memories, then fine--but they aren't really for sharing with strangers.

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.
Maybe none of their families had suffered a loss either.
Some undoubtedly had, but you don't gather around the casket of a dead relative to take a picture.
This isn't a casket.
Try harder.
LOL!
um, they put dead people in caskets. But have it your way. are you going to go get a family picture with your dead relative BEFORE they put them in the casket?
if you have one of those, why haven't I seen it?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 10:35:26 AM
I don't share by choice.
DS has pictures of his birthmother's six month old sister, should I share those?
No, they are his pictures to share, not mine.
You really have no understanding of the grief process for infant loss.

That's EXACTLY the frickin point. They are not to share except with very close friends and family--if even then. Certainly not random strangers.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.
Maybe none of their families had suffered a loss either.
Some undoubtedly had, but you don't gather around the casket of a dead relative to take a picture.
This isn't a casket.
Try harder.
LOL!
um, they put dead people in caskets. But have it your way. are you going to go get a family picture with your dead relative BEFORE they put them in the casket?
if you have one of those, why haven't I seen it?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 10:35:26 AM
What is your point? This was a stillborn baby and they took pictures in the hospital immediately after mom gave birth to this child. Sheesh.
The point is that it's not normal. Even in cases where people have such pictures, they don't prominently display them.

if they wantto have a pic for their personal memories, then fine--but they aren't really for sharing with strangers.

That is YOUR opinion. Times are changing, get over it.

msrock · Guru

TrudyML wrote:
Husker she is going to do it to YOU!

And post the pic in the Break Room! aww

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.
Maybe none of their families had suffered a loss either.
Some undoubtedly had, but you don't gather around the casket of a dead relative to take a picture.
This isn't a casket.
Try harder.
LOL!
um, they put dead people in caskets. But have it your way. are you going to go get a family picture with your dead relative BEFORE they put them in the casket?
if you have one of those, why haven't I seen it?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 10:35:26 AM
I don't share by choice.
DS has pictures of his birthmother's six month old sister, should I share those?
No, they are his pictures to share, not mine.
You really have no understanding of the grief process for infant loss.
That's EXACTLY the frickin point. They are not to share except with very close friends and family--if even then. Certainly not random strangers.

The class is not full of "random" strangers. It was a class project! School is a place to learn, is death not a part of learning?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.
Maybe none of their families had suffered a loss either.
Some undoubtedly had, but you don't gather around the casket of a dead relative to take a picture.
This isn't a casket.
Try harder.
LOL!
um, they put dead people in caskets. But have it your way. are you going to go get a family picture with your dead relative BEFORE they put them in the casket?
if you have one of those, why haven't I seen it?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 10:35:26 AM
I don't share by choice.
DS has pictures of his birthmother's six month old sister, should I share those?
No, they are his pictures to share, not mine.
You really have no understanding of the grief process for infant loss.
That's EXACTLY the frickin point. They are not to share except with very close friends and family--if even then. Certainly not random strangers.
The class is not full of "random" strangers. It was a class project! School is a place to learn, is death not a part of learning?

Well that depends. A lot of things are "learning". But, that doesnt' mean that is part of this particular lesson. And, i agree that is an important event in that child's life. However, I do not feel that pictures of a corpse baby are appropriate for consumption by the entire class.

huskerbb · Guru

These are strangers--and its not appropriate to show pictures of dead bodies to little kids. You even answered that, yourself. Pictures such as this are not displayed.

FNW · Guru

Personally, I would want my last memory of a loved one to be one of their life, not their death. But to each his own. I find it a little morbid to take pictures of dead loved ones, but some might find it comforting. I'm not sure it's a great idea to show them around school, however.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.
Maybe none of their families had suffered a loss either.
Some undoubtedly had, but you don't gather around the casket of a dead relative to take a picture.
This isn't a casket.
Try harder.
LOL!
um, they put dead people in caskets. But have it your way. are you going to go get a family picture with your dead relative BEFORE they put them in the casket?
if you have one of those, why haven't I seen it?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 10:35:26 AM
I don't share by choice.
DS has pictures of his birthmother's six month old sister, should I share those?
No, they are his pictures to share, not mine.
You really have no understanding of the grief process for infant loss.
That's EXACTLY the frickin point. They are not to share except with very close friends and family--if even then. Certainly not random strangers.
The class is not full of "random" strangers. It was a class project! School is a place to learn, is death not a part of learning?
Well that depends. A lot of things are "learning". But, that doesnt' mean that is part of this particular lesson. And, i agree that is an important event in that child's life. However, I do not feel that pictures of a corpse baby are appropriate for consumption by the entire class.

LGS, I have to disagree. It IS important to this child.

In a family history photo presentation, should the deceased grandparents not be shown because they are now dead?

I see this in the same light.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I totally agree that this important to the child. No question about that. That really isn't the issue. The issue is that this is a class presentation and not everything is appropriate for a class presentation. That in NO WAY negates his experience or his family. As for showing deceased grandparents, there is a big difference between showing them alive in a photo and showing their dead corpse.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I personally think death photos are disrespectful. I think we treat the human body and human remains with such disdain and flippantness. When we used to hold this as something very sacred. When we mix the sacred with the mundane, we lose something of our own humanity in my opinion. It just becomes sensationalism.

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.
Maybe none of their families had suffered a loss either.
Some undoubtedly had, but you don't gather around the casket of a dead relative to take a picture.
This isn't a casket.
Try harder.
LOL!
um, they put dead people in caskets. But have it your way. are you going to go get a family picture with your dead relative BEFORE they put them in the casket?
if you have one of those, why haven't I seen it?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 10:35:26 AM
I don't share by choice.
DS has pictures of his birthmother's six month old sister, should I share those?
No, they are his pictures to share, not mine.
You really have no understanding of the grief process for infant loss.
That's EXACTLY the frickin point. They are not to share except with very close friends and family--if even then. Certainly not random strangers.
The class is not full of "random" strangers. It was a class project! School is a place to learn, is death not a part of learning?
Well that depends. A lot of things are "learning". But, that doesnt' mean that is part of this particular lesson. And, i agree that is an important event in that child's life. However, I do not feel that pictures of a corpse baby are appropriate for consumption by the entire class.
LGS, I have to disagree. It IS important to this child.
In a family history photo presentation, should the deceased grandparents not be shown because they are now dead?
I see this in the same light.

LOL!!!

Ridiculous comparison. there is ZERO similarity between pictures taken of people when they were alive but are now deceased, and pictures of dead bodies.

again, are you taking family pictures with grandma in the hospital after she's dead?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 11:00:12 AM

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
These are strangers--and its not appropriate to show pictures of dead bodies to little kids. You even answered that, yourself. Pictures such as this are not displayed.

Some families DO display pictures of their deceased babies, in their homes. There is nothing wrong with that.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
They weren't showing pictures of dead babies.
Maybe none of their families had suffered a loss either.
Some undoubtedly had, but you don't gather around the casket of a dead relative to take a picture.
This isn't a casket.
Try harder.
LOL!
um, they put dead people in caskets. But have it your way. are you going to go get a family picture with your dead relative BEFORE they put them in the casket?
if you have one of those, why haven't I seen it?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 10:35:26 AM
I don't share by choice.
DS has pictures of his birthmother's six month old sister, should I share those?
No, they are his pictures to share, not mine.
You really have no understanding of the grief process for infant loss.
That's EXACTLY the frickin point. They are not to share except with very close friends and family--if even then. Certainly not random strangers.
The class is not full of "random" strangers. It was a class project! School is a place to learn, is death not a part of learning?
Well that depends. A lot of things are "learning". But, that doesnt' mean that is part of this particular lesson. And, i agree that is an important event in that child's life. However, I do not feel that pictures of a corpse baby are appropriate for consumption by the entire class.
LGS, I have to disagree. It IS important to this child.
In a family history photo presentation, should the deceased grandparents not be shown because they are now dead?
I see this in the same light.
LOL!!!

Ridiculous comparison. there is ZERO similarity between pictures taken of people when they were alive but are now deceased, and pictures of dead bodies.

again, are you taking family pictures with grandma in the hospital after she's dead?

-- Edited by huskerbb on Friday 4th of December 2015 11:00:12 AM

Some people DO. Again there is nothing wrong with that.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I totally agree that this important to the child. No question about that. That really isn't the issue. The issue is that this is a class presentation and not everything is appropriate for a class presentation. That in NO WAY negates his experience or his family. As for showing deceased grandparents, there is a big difference between showing them alive in a photo and showing their dead corpse.

IMHO, it's a matter of personal choice.

I am not big on restricting personal experiences to the back room exclusively.

Life and death are important, IMHO. Coping skills are gained by loss.

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
These are strangers--and its not appropriate to show pictures of dead bodies to little kids. You even answered that, yourself. Pictures such as this are not displayed.
Some families DO display pictures of their deceased babies, in their homes. There is nothing wrong with that.

Oh whatever. And yes there is. It's weird.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
These are strangers--and its not appropriate to show pictures of dead bodies to little kids. You even answered that, yourself. Pictures such as this are not displayed.
Some families DO display pictures of their deceased babies, in their homes. There is nothing wrong with that.

Yes, but that is their home. That is different than school.

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I totally agree that this important to the child. No question about that. That really isn't the issue. The issue is that this is a class presentation and not everything is appropriate for a class presentation. That in NO WAY negates his experience or his family. As for showing deceased grandparents, there is a big difference between showing them alive in a photo and showing their dead corpse.
IMHO, it's a matter of personal choice.
I am not big on restricting personal experiences to the back room exclusively.
Life and death are important, IMHO. Coping skills are gained by loss.

You take away the personal choice of every other parent of the kids in that class.

Its not up to you how and when to teach other people's children how to cope with death. You are forcing everyone to abide by your wishes. The wishes of the one don't trump the rights of everyone else.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Keeping and holding some parts of your life as private and personal doesn't negate your personal life, but maybe things you hold dear in your heart and within your own family. We used to understand that there were boundaries and lines between one's intimate personal life and public. Now, we no longer do. i think we cheapen our own lives by turning every moment into a Facebook post. I use Facebook a lot but i still think there are things best only shared among one's own family.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I totally agree that this important to the child. No question about that. That really isn't the issue. The issue is that this is a class presentation and not everything is appropriate for a class presentation. That in NO WAY negates his experience or his family. As for showing deceased grandparents, there is a big difference between showing them alive in a photo and showing their dead corpse.
IMHO, it's a matter of personal choice.
I am not big on restricting personal experiences to the back room exclusively.
Life and death are important, IMHO. Coping skills are gained by loss.
You take away the personal choice of every other parent of the kids in that class.
Its not up to you how and when to teach other people's children how to cope with death. You are forcing everyone to abide by your wishes. The wishes of the one don't trump the rights of everyone else.

Oh good grief, like that doesn't happen all the freakin time in school. Where the hell have you been the last 20 years?

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Keeping and holding some parts of your life as private and personal doesn't negate your personal life, but maybe things you hold dear in your heart and within your own family. We used to understand that there were boundaries and lines between one's intimate personal life and public. Now, we no longer do. i think we cheapen our own lives by turning every moment into a Facebook post. I use Facebook a lot but i still think there are things best only shared among one's own family.

I agree that there are some things that should not be shared, but, IMHO, death is not one of them.

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I totally agree that this important to the child. No question about that. That really isn't the issue. The issue is that this is a class presentation and not everything is appropriate for a class presentation. That in NO WAY negates his experience or his family. As for showing deceased grandparents, there is a big difference between showing them alive in a photo and showing their dead corpse.
IMHO, it's a matter of personal choice.
I am not big on restricting personal experiences to the back room exclusively.
Life and death are important, IMHO. Coping skills are gained by loss.
You take away the personal choice of every other parent of the kids in that class.
Its not up to you how and when to teach other people's children how to cope with death. You are forcing everyone to abide by your wishes. The wishes of the one don't trump the rights of everyone else.
Oh good grief, like that doesn't happen all the freakin time in school. Where the hell have you been the last 20 years?

LOL! Putting my kids through school, and it didn't happen even once.

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Keeping and holding some parts of your life as private and personal doesn't negate your personal life, but maybe things you hold dear in your heart and within your own family. We used to understand that there were boundaries and lines between one's intimate personal life and public. Now, we no longer do. i think we cheapen our own lives by turning every moment into a Facebook post. I use Facebook a lot but i still think there are things best only shared among one's own family.
I agree that there are some things that should not be shared, but, IMHO, death is not one of them.

Not your call to make.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
These are strangers--and its not appropriate to show pictures of dead bodies to little kids. You even answered that, yourself. Pictures such as this are not displayed.
Some families DO display pictures of their deceased babies, in their homes. There is nothing wrong with that.
Yes, but that is their home. That is different than school.

When the boys school aged friends visit, are they suppose to hide the pictures?

IMHO, no.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
These are strangers--and its not appropriate to show pictures of dead bodies to little kids. You even answered that, yourself. Pictures such as this are not displayed.
Some families DO display pictures of their deceased babies, in their homes. There is nothing wrong with that.
Oh whatever. And yes there is. It's weird.

In your opinion.

huskerbb · Guru

just Czech wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
These are strangers--and its not appropriate to show pictures of dead bodies to little kids. You even answered that, yourself. Pictures such as this are not displayed.
Some families DO display pictures of their deceased babies, in their homes. There is nothing wrong with that.
Yes, but that is their home. That is different than school.
When the boys school aged friends visit, are they suppose to hide the pictures?
IMHO, no.

No, because that is their home--the school is not. They should warn the parents, though.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Keeping and holding some parts of your life as private and personal doesn't negate your personal life, but maybe things you hold dear in your heart and within your own family. We used to understand that there were boundaries and lines between one's intimate personal life and public. Now, we no longer do. i think we cheapen our own lives by turning every moment into a Facebook post. I use Facebook a lot but i still think there are things best only shared among one's own family.
I agree that there are some things that should not be shared, but, IMHO, death is not one of them.
Not your call to make.

It's not your call to make either.

Ohfour · Hooker

huskerbb wrote:
just Czech wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
just Czech wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
These are strangers--and its not appropriate to show pictures of dead bodies to little kids. You even answered that, yourself. Pictures such as this are not displayed.
Some families DO display pictures of their deceased babies, in their homes. There is nothing wrong with that.
Yes, but that is their home. That is different than school.
When the boys school aged friends visit, are they suppose to hide the pictures?
IMHO, no.
No, because that is their home--the school is not. They should warn the parents, though.

That's absolutely retarded...