President Obama has been hammered for his failure on ISIS in the wake of the Paris attacks. But there's at least bitzcelt / Foter.com / CC BY-NC-NDone bright spot for him in that criticism: At least it deflected the spotlight from the unfolding catastrophe that is Obamacare.
Indeed, last month brought arguably the worst news for the program since the healthcare.gov debacle: UnitedHealthcare, the nation's largest insurer, announced that it might quit Obamacare's exchanges next year. Should UnitedHealthcare act on this threat, there may not be enough (red) tape in the desk drawer of even future President Hillary Clinton to put the Obamacare Humpty Dumpty back together again.
United announced during an investor briefing Thursday that it was expecting a whopping $425 million hit on its earnings this year, primarily due to mounting losses on its Obamacare exchange business. "We cannot sustain these losses," United CEO Stephen Hensley declared. "We can't really subsidize a marketplace that doesn't appear at the moment to be sustaining itself."
Avik Roy, who serves as GOP presidential candidate Marco Rubio's health care advisor, suspects United may just be the first domino to fall. Other commercial insurers, such asAetna, Anthem, and Cigna, have raised premiums by double digits and still say they can't make the numbers work in their favor. Hence, they have withdrawn from counties where their losses were particularly acute.
For-profit companies that have shareholders breathing down their necks don't have much latitude to absorb losses. But even companies that don't face similar profit-maximizing pressures can't escape the basic dilemma confronting the industry. For example, state filings of the non-profit Blue Cross Blue Shield show that the company barely broke even in the first half of 2015. In Texas last year, BCBS collected $2.1 billion in premiums and paid out $2.5 billion in claims. If Obamacare's condition worsens, such companies will have to scale back their participation too.
And Obamacare's condition will worsen. Why? Because not only are far fewer patients enrolling in the exchanges than projected, but those signing up are too old or sick for anything resembling a balanced risk pool.
Even the administration has admitted that Obamacare enrollment has essentially flatlined, with only 1.3 million new members expected to buy coverage next year, compared to the 8 million projected when the law was passed. This means that overall enrollment by 2016 will be somewhere between 9.4 million and 11.4 million. That's half—half—of the 21 million initially predicted. So much for universal coverage!
The reason for this pathetic take-up rate is that the lavish benefits—in-vitro fertilization for 50-year-old women*, for example—that Obamacare mandated for qualifying plans have backfired. This mandate was intended to make sure that the young and healthy would purchase full—not bare-bones, catastrophic—coverage so that they would offset the cost of sicker patients. Instead, it has forced companies to jack up rates so much that only those eligible for full subsidies (the relatively poor) or the sick find it worth their while to buy coverage. The relatively young and healthy are opting to pay the penalty and "go naked." This, in turn, is forcing insurers to raise prices even more, which is causing more healthy people to drop out, unleashing the dreaded adverse selection spiral.
Obamacare tried to prevent this downward spiral by, ironically, insuring the insurers against losses until 2017 through something called the risk corridor provision. Basically, the plan was to shake down companies making higher than expected profits and handing their proceeds to companies with higher than expected losses. Setting aside the perversity of forcing successful companies to subsidize failing competitors, the program hasn't worked because the entire industry is confronting losses and Congress has barred the administration from dipping into general funds—aka taxpayer pockets—to bail it out. (United withdrew partially because it sees no relief in sight from the government. "We see no indication of anything actually improving," CEO Henley said.)
The best medicine for the exchanges? It might involve letting the insurance industry offer pared back, cheap coverage at prices that reflect the risk profile of patients. This would bring back the young invincibles, but jack up prices for sicker patients. That problem could be solved by targeting subsidies on these patients on a strict means-tested basis rather than showering them on everyone up to 400 percent of the poverty level. The crucial upside to this approach is that it would allow the insurance marketplace to function again. However, market pricing based on health is against the religion of liberals. Clinton won't go there. She could twist the screws on opt-outs by raising their penalty to something close to the price of the coverage they are refusing. But that would require Congress to override the statutory limits on these penalties in Obamacare. And so long as the House remains in Republican hands, that ain't going to happen.
Hillary's only other option will be to impose price controls on the health care industry. She's recently taken to demonizing drug companies but, notes Roy, they account for only 12 percent of health care costs. The real "savings" that could lower the price of coverage would be from going after doctor and hospital reimbursement, but that would be the political equivalent of stepping on a land mine.
Obamacare is falling apart limb by limb, and there is really no keeping it together. It could well become President Obama's Iraq: A costly and conceited intervention that destroyed an imperfect but functioning system just because it didn't fit his utopian designs.
All I know is I used to have great insurance. Since Obamacare it sucks and the worst part is I still know plenty of people who aren't covered. It's cheaper to pay the fine than to get coverage with outrageously high co-pays so what's the point. If others were benefitting I wouldn't feel as bad but he broke the freaking system.
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Caitlyn had to go to the doctor this week. She doesn't have insurance. Can't get insurance. Is exempt from the requirements.
Good thing too. She would literally be insurance poor.
Her one doctor visit with medicine was only $121.
That is what it was the last time she went 3 years ago.
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All I know is I used to have great insurance. Since Obamacare it sucks and the worst part is I still know plenty of people who aren't covered. It's cheaper to pay the fine than to get coverage with outrageously high co-pays so what's the point. If others were benefitting I wouldn't feel as bad but he broke the freaking system.
Dec 1 we started on Obamacare. I have no idea how it will work out. We just had to refill a bunch of scripts yesterday. I think there were six scripts. It was cheaper to pay cash for four of them than to use our Obamacare insurance. Where I live doctors are giving deeply discounted rates to people who just pay cash. DH's ex present DH went to the ER and had to have an MRI. They asked how much it was and they were told that if they paid cash they would charge them half of the copay the insurance charged them. The pain medication I take is $60 on our Obamacare. If we pay cash it's $2.16 Yes, you read that right. $2.16 This system is insane. I'm going to the doctor on Monday about my foot. I know they'll take x-rays. DH is thinking of paying cash. It will probably be cheaper. This system is more screwed up now than it ever was.
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Yep. Obamacare was supposed to fix all this. It's made it worse. Oh, and getting on the system was a nightmare. If DH wasn't so persistent we would not have gotten the insurance. The broker continually failed to file the paperwork. We couldn't pay for our insurance until it was filed. The insurance kept calling telling us payment was due but we were not in their system. The whole thing was insane. And according to TX law DH has to keep SS insured. But he can't enroll him on Obamacare because he doesn't have custody of him. How does that work. He was finally able to work out a deal where he is insured for catastrophic events only. SS has no prescription coverage. He's allowed three doctors visits a year. Fortunately, he has never exceeded that in the almost seven years I've been married. We get him a flu shot every year is the extent of health care we use for him.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
And one of the big things we found out when researching the plans is that hardly ANYONE takes them. What good does it do to have a plan that you can't use?
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And one of the big things we found out when researching the plans is that hardly ANYONE takes them. What good does it do to have a plan that you can't use?
But, but, but, that would NEVER happen!!!! Remember all the libs saying it was just a scare tactic? Over and over and over.
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And one of the big things we found out when researching the plans is that hardly ANYONE takes them. What good does it do to have a plan that you can't use?
But, but, but, that would NEVER happen!!!! Remember all the libs saying it was just a scare tactic? Over and over and over.
Of the million or so plans that were out there when we had to choose only TWO plans were accepted by local doctors.
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Remember the Doctors offering their own plans, you had to pay them something like $2550/year? I wish I had done that. It is indeed cheaper now to not have insurance. Perhaps a catastrophic plan to keep it affordable. And where is the money going if we all have such huge deductibles and pay hundreds for prescriptions that just last year cost $10?
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Remember the Doctors offering their own plans, you had to pay them something like $2550/year? I wish I had done that. It is indeed cheaper now to not have insurance. Perhaps a catastrophic plan to keep it affordable. And where is the money going if we all have such huge deductibles and pay hundreds for prescriptions that just last year cost $10?
There is a place kinda like that here. It's called Gracepoint. It's pay as you go no insurance. It's absolutely booming. They even do house calls...
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Remember the Doctors offering their own plans, you had to pay them something like $2550/year? I wish I had done that. It is indeed cheaper now to not have insurance. Perhaps a catastrophic plan to keep it affordable. And where is the money going if we all have such huge deductibles and pay hundreds for prescriptions that just last year cost $10?
There is a place kinda like that here. It's called Gracepoint. It's pay as you go no insurance. It's absolutely booming. They even do house calls...
Yep. We have it here too. Just got a new clinic. It's called Uncommon Care. There are different rates for different ages. For DH and I it's $75 a piece a month for unlimited visits. There's no insurance. They give you base rates for things like x-rays and all the other services that insurance jacks the rates up on. Everyone who goes there says it's wonderful. If they have time they even do house calls. It's getting big here too. No one wants to even deal with insurance anymore. Places are offering deep discounts if you pay with cash so it's too the point it's cheaper to just pay and go. The government is making a killing forcing people to pay for plans they never use.
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We have convenient care. It's an extention of the hospital.
They handle everything from preventive care to sprains.
They do not have narcotics on the premises.
They can do x-rays and tests.
If you need something more than they can do, they send you to the ER.
You pay for services rendered.
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This new clinic is convenient care. We have Urgent Care and Express Care here too. This new thing is called concierge care. It's not the same as the other. You have the same doctor every time. It's like a regular doctors office but you pay a monthly fee.
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That's a lot for a service you don't use very often.
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Depends on if you use it or not. It's cheaper than insurance actually.
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But like we just dealt with Caitlyn and going to the doctor.
$121 covered doctor visit and antibiotics and symptom control meds.
It's the first time in 3 years she has needed a doctor.
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But there are people who may need the doctor more than that. Not that they're critically ill but they may need to touch base. Some people have meds that need monitoring on a regular basis. While it doesn't involve difficult care it may take attention from a doctor. More than one visit every three years. Sorry you don't approve but it's very valid option that many people are taking advantage of.
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But there are people who may need the doctor more than that. Not that they're critically ill but they may need to touch base. Some people have meds that need monitoring on a regular basis. While it doesn't involve difficult care it may take attention from a doctor. More than one visit every three years. Sorry you don't approve but it's very valid option that many people are taking advantage of.
Yeah, like the tumour they removed from my son's spine. He had to go back every day for six weeks to get it cleaned, debrided and repacked.
But there are people who may need the doctor more than that. Not that they're critically ill but they may need to touch base. Some people have meds that need monitoring on a regular basis. While it doesn't involve difficult care it may take attention from a doctor. More than one visit every three years. Sorry you don't approve but it's very valid option that many people are taking advantage of.
That I understand.
What I've tried saying is, if a person looks hard enough, they can find the right fit for them.
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But there are people who may need the doctor more than that. Not that they're critically ill but they may need to touch base. Some people have meds that need monitoring on a regular basis. While it doesn't involve difficult care it may take attention from a doctor. More than one visit every three years. Sorry you don't approve but it's very valid option that many people are taking advantage of.
Yeah, like the tumour they removed from my son's spine. He had to go back every day for six weeks to get it cleaned, debrided and repacked.
EXACTLY! I may not use the doctor for three months. But then it seems like I get a respiratory infection and I'm in there every week trying to get something to help me breathe. We're not using this service but we've talked about it. Plus, what doctor makes house calls anymore?
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
But there are people who may need the doctor more than that. Not that they're critically ill but they may need to touch base. Some people have meds that need monitoring on a regular basis. While it doesn't involve difficult care it may take attention from a doctor. More than one visit every three years. Sorry you don't approve but it's very valid option that many people are taking advantage of.
That I understand.
What I've tried saying is, if a person looks hard enough, they can find the right fit for them.
Lily, your daughter has subsidized care so there are restrictions on what the doctor can charge her. I have a cadillac health plan that I and my employer pay big bucks for and I would pay a heck of a lot more for the service your daughter received.
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But there are people who may need the doctor more than that. Not that they're critically ill but they may need to touch base. Some people have meds that need monitoring on a regular basis. While it doesn't involve difficult care it may take attention from a doctor. More than one visit every three years. Sorry you don't approve but it's very valid option that many people are taking advantage of.
That I understand.
What I've tried saying is, if a person looks hard enough, they can find the right fit for them.
Lily, your daughter has subsidized care so there are restrictions on what the doctor can charge her. I have a cadillac health plan that I and my employer pay big bucks for and I would pay a heck of a lot more for the service your daughter received.
No. She got $10 off the doctor visit.
It really does depend on where you go, what you need.
No one should be forced to pay for something they so rarely use.
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I think I need to go to the doc in a box tomorrow. I should not let on I have insurance. Maybe it will be cheaper.
Put down "private pay".
There was no questions about income at all.
Won't hurt to try it.
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But like I said, it is an extension of the hospital.
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Well, I know here that the doc in the boxes are offering cheaper rates to private pay. If you don't use insurance and pay cash up front they give you a discount. A bird in the hand vs two in the bush and all. I didn't make these laws, I don't like these laws, and I wish we didn't have these laws. The problem is that since Obamacare has totally screwed up the whole health care system doctors and clinics are just trying to stay afloat.
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