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Liberty University president urges students, faculty to carry guns
December 6, 2015 By The Associated Press
Jerry Falwell Jr., president of Liberty University, speaks in Lynchburg, Virginia, on Wednesday, Nov. 11, 2015. (Credit: Bloomberg / Andrew Harrer)
RICHMOND, Va. — Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. urged students, staff and faculty at his Christian school to get a permit to carry a concealed weapon on campus to counter any copycat attack like the deadly rampage in California just days ago.
“Let’s teach them a lesson if they ever show up here,” Falwell told an estimated 10,000 of the campus community at convocation Friday in Lynchburg. While Falwell’s call to arms was applauded, his remarks also seemed to target Muslims.
“I’ve always thought if more good people had concealed carry permits, then we could end those Muslims before they walked in .,” Falwell said. The final words of his statement could not be clearly heard on a videotape of the remarks.
However, Falwell told The Associated Press on Saturday he was specifically referring to Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik, the husband and wife who shot and killed 14 people at a holiday party in San Bernardino on Wednesday.
Falwell’s remarks generated a sharp rebuke from Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, who called the comments “reckless.”
“My administration is committed to making Virginia an open and welcoming Commonwealth, while also ensuring the safety of all of our citizens,” McAuliffe said in a statement issued late Saturday. “Mr. Falwell’s rash and repugnant comments detract from both of those crucial goals.”
Falwell also said he believed the campus needed to be prepared in the face of the increasing frequency of mass killings. He cited, for example, the 2007 massacre of 32 people at Virginia Tech, the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history, and less than 100 miles southwest of Liberty.
“What if just one of those students or one of those faculty members had a concealed permit and was carrying a weapon when the shooter walked into Virginia Tech? Countless lives could have been saved,” he said.
Falwell’s message is apparently being heeded. He said more than 100 people had asked Liberty police about a free class to obtain a permit to carry a concealed weapon.
Liberty was founded by Jerry Falwell Sr., who was among the nation’s first conservative cultural warriors. The Moral Majority founder’s barbed commentary on contemporary matters such as gay Americans made him a reviled figure to some and a pioneering conservative crusader to others.
Following the San Bernardino shootings, which left 14 dead, Falwell said he began carrying a .25-caliber handgun in his back pocket. He said he’s had a permit for more than year.
During his address Friday, Falwell mentioned the weapon and reached around seemingly to fetch it.
“Is it illegal to pull it out? I don’t know,” he said, laughing, drawing some hoots from the audience.
Asked if he was concerned by the prospect of thousands of armed young people on campus, Falwell said Virginia has a minimum age of 21 for a carry-conceal permit. He said that meant only older students would be armed.
More than 14,000 students are enrolled at Liberty.
Falwell said he had also reached out to a first responder in San Bernardino to see if the school could offer scholarship assistance to his children.
Falwell’s remarks were first reported by the News & Advance.
Good. It's about time we started standing up for ourselves again.
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The Governor of TN did the same. He called on all Christians to carry...
This makes absolutely NO sense. He called on ONLY the Christians to carry? So non Christians shouldn't? Why would he even address them separately?
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
But not others? So if you aren't a Christian you can't protect people?
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
So now Christians get to start their own war. Way to go.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
Here is a snippet from one of the articles I found.
"There is an eerie absence of logic in his statement that ties one's Christian faith to firearms ownership that is offensive to all religions," Clemmons said. "Senator Ramsey is essentially saying that we should all run out and get a handgun carry permit to prove how serious we are about our Christian faith."
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
But the non Christian is not who he was talking to.
And let's face it, it is imparitive that the Christian protect their rights. For everyone.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
It most definitely IS about separating people. And it's about saying that Christians should wage war against another group. It's a call to start holy war on the side of the Christians. If ALL people want to own a gun then I have no issue with it. But this was nothing more than trying to stir up trouble. To tell ALL CHRISTIANS that it is their job to protect the rest of the country? Really? You honestly see no issue with that? ISIS has their own agenda too. And I know I'm going to get flamed as a Christian hater and an anti gun person but so be it. This is dangerous ground.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
And it's about saying that Christians should wage war against another group.
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no. it's a warning to Christians ( who have been targeted all over the world but particularly in the middle east of late ) to arm yourself for defense--your own, your family, your neighbors--it is not some call to arms to start a war with non-Christians
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" the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. "--edmund burke
How many people have been killed by Muslims in the USA? Not counting 9-11, because a gun couldn't have saved you from a plane crashing into the building.
How many people are killed in the USA each year by guns? About 30,000.
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns!
Guns for everybody!
I am referring to ohfour's article. It's a different one than the one posted above.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns!
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there isn't a gun problem in the US--true, there is a lot of violent death perpetrated by CRIMINALS but again you have to take into consideration the size of our population vs the available law enforcement resources
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" the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. "--edmund burke
It most definitely IS about separating people. And it's about saying that Christians should wage war against another group. It's a call to start holy war on the side of the Christians. If ALL people want to own a gun then I have no issue with it. But this was nothing more than trying to stir up trouble. To tell ALL CHRISTIANS that it is their job to protect the rest of the country? Really? You honestly see no issue with that? ISIS has their own agenda too. And I know I'm going to get flamed as a Christian hater and an anti gun person but so be it. This is dangerous ground.
You just hit the nail on the head.
This is a religious war.
Daniel, Matthew, Ezekiel, Revelation all talk about the religious war of the end times.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns! ______________________________________________________
there isn't a gun problem in the US--true, there is a lot of violent death perpetrated by CRIMINALS but again you have to take into consideration the size of our population vs the available law enforcement resources
Lol! That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns! ______________________________________________________
there isn't a gun problem in the US--true, there is a lot of violent death perpetrated by CRIMINALS but again you have to take into consideration the size of our population vs the available law enforcement resources
Lol! That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
Good thing you don't live in the US.
Your opinion is pointless.
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I drink coffee so I don't kill you.
I quilt so I don't kill you.
Do you see a theme?
Faith isn't something that keeps bad things from happening. Faith is what helps us get through bad things when they do happen.
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns! ______________________________________________________
there isn't a gun problem in the US--true, there is a lot of violent death perpetrated by CRIMINALS but again you have to take into consideration the size of our population vs the available law enforcement resources
Lol! That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
Ok Weltz. I guess we get back on the merry go round.
How does taking guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens keep them out of a criminal's hands?
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns! ______________________________________________________
there isn't a gun problem in the US--true, there is a lot of violent death perpetrated by CRIMINALS but again you have to take into consideration the size of our population vs the available law enforcement resources
Lol! That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
It most definitely IS about separating people. And it's about saying that Christians should wage war against another group. It's a call to start holy war on the side of the Christians. If ALL people want to own a gun then I have no issue with it. But this was nothing more than trying to stir up trouble. To tell ALL CHRISTIANS that it is their job to protect the rest of the country? Really? You honestly see no issue with that? ISIS has their own agenda too. And I know I'm going to get flamed as a Christian hater and an anti gun person but so be it. This is dangerous ground.
You just hit the nail on the head.
This is a religious war.
Daniel, Matthew, Ezekiel, Revelation all talk about the religious war of the end times.
So let's be clear. It's okay for all the Christians to go out and kill Muslims?
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns! ______________________________________________________
there isn't a gun problem in the US--true, there is a lot of violent death perpetrated by CRIMINALS but again you have to take into consideration the size of our population vs the available law enforcement resources
Lol! That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
It most definitely IS about separating people. And it's about saying that Christians should wage war against another group. It's a call to start holy war on the side of the Christians. If ALL people want to own a gun then I have no issue with it. But this was nothing more than trying to stir up trouble. To tell ALL CHRISTIANS that it is their job to protect the rest of the country? Really? You honestly see no issue with that? ISIS has their own agenda too. And I know I'm going to get flamed as a Christian hater and an anti gun person but so be it. This is dangerous ground.
You just hit the nail on the head.
This is a religious war.
Daniel, Matthew, Ezekiel, Revelation all talk about the religious war of the end times.
So let's be clear. It's okay for all the Christians to go out and kill Muslims?
No.
But it is ok to be prepared if you find yourself in a situation and need to protect yourself.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns! ______________________________________________________
there isn't a gun problem in the US--true, there is a lot of violent death perpetrated by CRIMINALS but again you have to take into consideration the size of our population vs the available law enforcement resources
Lol! That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns! ______________________________________________________
there isn't a gun problem in the US--true, there is a lot of violent death perpetrated by CRIMINALS but again you have to take into consideration the size of our population vs the available law enforcement resources
Lol! That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns! ______________________________________________________
there isn't a gun problem in the US--true, there is a lot of violent death perpetrated by CRIMINALS but again you have to take into consideration the size of our population vs the available law enforcement resources
Lol! That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
That's just a handful out of millions. However, feel free to think I'm making it up because I'm Canadian.
I really don't care about the PC propaganda, because, well... that's what it is.
Got it The ONLY opinions which count are those coming from ammosexual, NRA-loving Christians.
Everything else must be discounted with extreme prejudice.
Finally, you got something right!
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns! ______________________________________________________
there isn't a gun problem in the US--true, there is a lot of violent death perpetrated by CRIMINALS but again you have to take into consideration the size of our population vs the available law enforcement resources
Lol! That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns! ______________________________________________________
there isn't a gun problem in the US--true, there is a lot of violent death perpetrated by CRIMINALS but again you have to take into consideration the size of our population vs the available law enforcement resources
Lol! That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
The Governor of TN did the same. He called on all Christians to carry...
This makes absolutely NO sense. He called on ONLY the Christians to carry? So non Christians shouldn't? Why would he even address them separately?
Apparently the rest of us don't deserve to live.
flan
Ok, so you don't want to own a gun but now that someone said Christians should carry you get all upset even though you're not a Christian? That is beyond reason. I'm with LL. You should go somewhere where the laws are to your liking and stop trying to take away everyone elses rights. Don't let the border hit you in the ass on the way out...
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The Governor of TN did the same. He called on all Christians to carry...
This makes absolutely NO sense. He called on ONLY the Christians to carry? So non Christians shouldn't? Why would he even address them separately?
Apparently the rest of us don't deserve to live.
flan
Hey, if you don't care enough about yourself and your family to protect yourself and them, why should someone else? And he was addressing Christians as his belief that as a CHRISTIAN you should protect yourself and your family. He can't really speak for others...
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
The Governor of TN did the same. He called on all Christians to carry...
This makes absolutely NO sense. He called on ONLY the Christians to carry? So non Christians shouldn't? Why would he even address them separately?
Apparently the rest of us don't deserve to live.
flan
I didn't see where he said non-Christians shouldn't carry. This is quite the twist, the fact that a Christian man is talking to other Christians and telling them they should carry somehow means nobody else should.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns! ______________________________________________________
there isn't a gun problem in the US--true, there is a lot of violent death perpetrated by CRIMINALS but again you have to take into consideration the size of our population vs the available law enforcement resources
Lol! That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns! ______________________________________________________
there isn't a gun problem in the US--true, there is a lot of violent death perpetrated by CRIMINALS but again you have to take into consideration the size of our population vs the available law enforcement resources
Lol! That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
So, clearly the answer to the gun problem in the US is Lots More Guns! ______________________________________________________
there isn't a gun problem in the US--true, there is a lot of violent death perpetrated by CRIMINALS but again you have to take into consideration the size of our population vs the available law enforcement resources
Lol! That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
That's just a handful out of millions. However, feel free to think I'm making it up because I'm Canadian.
I really don't care about the PC propaganda, because, well... that's what it is.
Got it The ONLY opinions which count are those coming from ammosexual, NRA-loving Christians.
Everything else must be discounted with extreme prejudice.
Finally, you got something right!
You're better than that.
flan
Not when it comes to gun rights. I AM an NRA-loving Christian.
Yes, and I have always respected that.
But are you saying that my opinion doesn't count because I'm not?
flan
Oh, your opinion counts, I just don't think it's the right opinion for me and I'm not afraid to say it.
I really do not see how you plan to defend yourself or your family against criminals with guns.
Criminals will always have guns.
Restricting the good guy, enables the bad guy, always. History has proved that over and over again. Just take a good hard look at the Middle East and Africa.
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I drink coffee so I don't kill you.
I quilt so I don't kill you.
Do you see a theme?
Faith isn't something that keeps bad things from happening. Faith is what helps us get through bad things when they do happen.
But not others? So if you aren't a Christian you can't protect people?
He's a Christian leaders speaking to Christians at a Christian University. You are reading something that wasn't said as in "insult". Kind of like if i say i like a pretty blue sky, then somehow by default I am insulting people who like a red sky.
Just to remind others, we have guns. I know how to shoot. I have a problem with what he said. All it takes is one unbalanced person to hear what he says and take it to mean to go out on a killing spree. Deny it all you want but people, especially leaders, need to be very careful with what they say.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
And there are plenty of gun owners that can legally obtain guns that scare the chit out of me.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
And there are plenty of gun owners that can legally obtain guns that scare the chit out of me.
The hope is that they (the scary gun owners) scare the chit out of the terrorist.
First of all you act like I am anti gun. I am very much not. And second all it takes is someone with authority to stir up things and some psycho will go on a mass shooting that he feels is justified.
And yeah, there are people that can legally own guns that scare the **** out of me. Because I know, given the right circumstances, they could be dangerous.
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“You may shoot me with your words, you may cut me with your eyes, you may kill me with your hatefulness, but still, like air, I'll rise!” ― Maya Angelou
I disagree with his message as well, not because I am anti-gun (because I'm not) nor because I am anti-Christian (also because I'm not), but because I am anti-"combine guns with religion".