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‘I’m Thinking of Buying a Gun’

More Americans refuse to be sitting ducks to terror

 

 

Everyday Americans who have never thought seriously about buying firearms to protect themselves and their families are now mulling the prospect in the wake of the terrorist shootings in San Bernardino, Calif., Paris and elsewhere.

“I’m a veteran. I know how to use a gun. I’m considering buying a gun to protect my family,” a Vietnam veteran, baby boomer and father of four in New York told LifeZette over the weekend. “Acts of terror are happening anywhere — concerts, cafes, workplaces, even at a Christmas party. Why should I or my family be sitting ducks? It’s ridiculous. If someone opens fire, I want to be able to fend them off no matter what the probability is.”

Massachusetts small business owner Christy Roberts — a Democrat who voted for Obama — told LifeZette the same. “I never would have imagined this, but I’m planning on taking a class and getting my gun license just in case. In today’s world, I just believe it’s the smart thing to do.”

 
 
 
 
 
 

Americans are worried, now more than ever, that guns may soon be far more difficult to obtain under the Obama administration, as well as under any future Democratic administration, should that occur in 2017.

“I’m doing it now because there may be a time soon when I won’t be allowed to get a gun as the laws tighten up,” Roberts said. “It’s my right as a citizen to have a gun for safety.”

An FBI report last week said more Americans than ever are buying guns, or are thinking about it. The agency said it processed more than 185,000 background checks — about two per second — on Black Friday alone. That’s a 5 percent increase over Black Friday sales last year, and that doesn’t include sales through dealers not controlled by the federal government.

Hardworking, law-abiding Americans who want to protect their families from violent acts, however, are facing nonsensical rhetoric from rigid gun law supporters, such as Coppin State University writing professor D. Watkins, who posited in Salon: “I believe that being shot should be a requirement for gun ownership in America. It’s very simple. You need to have guns, like taking selfies with pistols, can’t live without it? Then take a bullet and you will be granted the right to purchase the firearm of your choice.”

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Watkins, a liberal media darling, also compared gun-rights supporters to slave owners: “Gun praisers are just like the people who were in favor of slavery back in the day — the elite, lazy and ignorant.”

What nonsense, given this reality: “We are now investigating these horrific acts (in San Bernardino) as an act of terror,” the FBI said on Friday. ISIS said its group “inspired” the attacks. Even President Obama in a White House address on Sunday said as much, uttering for the first time the word “terror” in connection with the California shootings.

The San Bernardino massacre last week killed 14 innocent Americans and injured 21. A pair of heavily armed radical Islamics, husband and wife Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik, stormed the Inland Regional Center on an ordinary workday and shot as many people as possible until police took them out. The couple had extensively plotted their act of terror and built weapons inside their apartment, where they were also raising a young daughter.

 
 
 
 
 
 

The murderous Malik, born in Pakistan, had traveled here from Saudi Arabia, married Farook in August 2014 and had a baby with her spouse. She came to the U.S. on a K-1 visa, known as the fiancé visa.

“The danger of Islamic supremacists grows every year,” Newt Gingrich, a former speaker of the House, said on Fox News over the weekend. “What happened in California was an act of war, an attack on America by people who want to destroy our way of life.”

Is it any wonder Americans across the country are citing defense of life and liberty as granted them under the Constitution and turning thought to action?

“Terrorists can strike anywhere and at any time, giving them a huge strategic advantage,” John R. Lott, president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, told LifeZette on Sunday. “Unfortunately, too many politicians around the world refuse to admit this.”

Related: Fuhrman: Ignore Gun-Free Zones

“It’s handguns and long guns,” Mike Reber of Arizona Arms in Chandler, Ariz., said about the “noticeable and steady” increase in gun purchases at his store and online. “It’s a lot of women buying guns. It’s husbands bringing their wives to buy guns. They don’t want to be sitting ducks in a pond,” he told the New York Times.

The bitter disagreement between Second Amendment supporters and the Left is escalating, as liberals point to the number of guns on the streets as the over-arching reason for the rise in violence. Gun-rights advocates believe that multiple factors including radicalized homegrown terrorists, an increase in illegal immigrants, and the need for better mental health care and screening are far more to the point.

Obama, in part, blames lawmakers supportive of Second Amendment rights for the rise in violence. After last week’s act of terror, Obama said in his weekly radio address on Saturday, “We know that the killers in San Bernardino used military-style assault weapons — weapons of war — to kill as many people as they could. It’s another tragic reminder that here in America it’s way too easy for dangerous people to get their hands on a gun.”

He added, “So I’m calling on Congress to close this loophole, now. We may not be able to prevent every tragedy, but — at a bare minimum — we shouldn’t be making it so easy for potential terrorists or criminals to get their hands on a gun that they could use against Americans.”

When Obama gave a speech in Paris last month, near the site of the Nov. 13 terrorist attacks in the French capital, he called for urgent action against a challenge he suggested was greater than the fight against terrorism: “The growing threat of climate change could define the contours of this century more dramatically than any other.”

But increasingly, Americans are ignoring such empty rhetoric and taking a stand, by asserting their constitutional rights and protecting themselves. They’re completing the necessary paperwork and training and putting a gun in their hands for protection, for defense, and for peace of mind — something the U.S. government is not providing.

“Police and soldiers in uniform have an extremely difficult job, and should be thanked for being willing to risk their own safety and stand out in public in uniform to guard Americans,” Lott said. “But more needs to be done. Over 5 percent of adult Americans have a concealed handgun permit. We can only hope that many more Americans take responsibility for the safety of themselves and their families.”

 

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“Gun praisers are just like the people who were in favor of slavery back in the day — the elite, lazy and ignorant.”
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lord, what an ignorant POS--to make a statement like this--to make it " racial "--to sensationalize it for propaganda purposes--a typical " liberal darling "--people merely wanting to exercize their constitutional rights are, by implication, racists, elitists, lazy, etc--what an utter crock

gosh damn, i'm offended--would like to challenge him to a duel but unfortunately no longer allowed--maybe can get together a bunch of people to protest and get him fired--you know the program

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“Gun praisers are just like the people who were in favor of slavery back in the day — the elite, lazy and ignorant.”
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lord, what an ignorant POS--to make a statement like this--to make it " racial "--to sensationalize it for propaganda purposes--a typical " liberal darling "--people merely wanting to exercize their constitutional rights are, by implication, racists, elitists, lazy, etc--what an utter crock

gosh damn, i'm offended--would like to challenge him to a duel but unfortunately no longer allowed--maybe can get together a bunch of people to protest and get him fired--you know the program


 Playing the victim card?

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flan327 wrote:
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“Gun praisers are just like the people who were in favor of slavery back in the day — the elite, lazy and ignorant.”
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lord, what an ignorant POS--to make a statement like this--to make it " racial "--to sensationalize it for propaganda purposes--a typical " liberal darling "--people merely wanting to exercize their constitutional rights are, by implication, racists, elitists, lazy, etc--what an utter crock

gosh damn, i'm offended--would like to challenge him to a duel but unfortunately no longer allowed--maybe can get together a bunch of people to protest and get him fired--you know the program


 Playing the victim card?

flan


That's what the article said... 



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flan327 wrote:
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“Gun praisers are just like the people who were in favor of slavery back in the day — the elite, lazy and ignorant.”
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lord, what an ignorant POS--to make a statement like this--to make it " racial "--to sensationalize it for propaganda purposes--a typical " liberal darling "--people merely wanting to exercize their constitutional rights are, by implication, racists, elitists, lazy, etc--what an utter crock

gosh damn, i'm offended--would like to challenge him to a duel but unfortunately no longer allowed--maybe can get together a bunch of people to protest and get him fired--you know the program


 Playing the victim card?

flan


 Bwahahahahahahaha...



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flan327 wrote:
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“Gun praisers are just like the people who were in favor of slavery back in the day — the elite, lazy and ignorant.”
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lord, what an ignorant POS--to make a statement like this--to make it " racial "--to sensationalize it for propaganda purposes--a typical " liberal darling "--people merely wanting to exercize their constitutional rights are, by implication, racists, elitists, lazy, etc--what an utter crock

gosh damn, i'm offended--would like to challenge him to a duel but unfortunately no longer allowed--maybe can get together a bunch of people to protest and get him fired--you know the program


 Playing the victim card?

flan


 Really, Flan?

Wanting to exercise one's Constitutional rights makes one a victim?

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flan327 wrote:
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“Gun praisers are just like the people who were in favor of slavery back in the day — the elite, lazy and ignorant.”
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lord, what an ignorant POS--to make a statement like this--to make it " racial "--to sensationalize it for propaganda purposes--a typical " liberal darling "--people merely wanting to exercize their constitutional rights are, by implication, racists, elitists, lazy, etc--what an utter crock

gosh damn, i'm offended--would like to challenge him to a duel but unfortunately no longer allowed--maybe can get together a bunch of people to protest and get him fired--you know the program


 Playing the victim card?

flan


 Wow.  That's a stretch,  even for you.



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flan is very familiar with playing the victim card.

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chef wrote:
flan327 wrote:
burns07 wrote:


“Gun praisers are just like the people who were in favor of slavery back in the day — the elite, lazy and ignorant.”
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lord, what an ignorant POS--to make a statement like this--to make it " racial "--to sensationalize it for propaganda purposes--a typical " liberal darling "--people merely wanting to exercize their constitutional rights are, by implication, racists, elitists, lazy, etc--what an utter crock

gosh damn, i'm offended--would like to challenge him to a duel but unfortunately no longer allowed--maybe can get together a bunch of people to protest and get him fired--you know the program


 Playing the victim card?

flan


 Really, Flan?

Wanting to exercise one's Constitutional rights makes one a victim?

no


 It was implied in his statement.

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flan327 wrote:
chef wrote:
flan327 wrote:
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“Gun praisers are just like the people who were in favor of slavery back in the day — the elite, lazy and ignorant.”
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lord, what an ignorant POS--to make a statement like this--to make it " racial "--to sensationalize it for propaganda purposes--a typical " liberal darling "--people merely wanting to exercize their constitutional rights are, by implication, racists, elitists, lazy, etc--what an utter crock

gosh damn, i'm offended--would like to challenge him to a duel but unfortunately no longer allowed--maybe can get together a bunch of people to protest and get him fired--you know the program


 Playing the victim card?

flan


 Really, Flan?

Wanting to exercise one's Constitutional rights makes one a victim?

no


 It was implied in his statement.

flan


 No.  It really wasn't.



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flan327 wrote:
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“Gun praisers are just like the people who were in favor of slavery back in the day — the elite, lazy and ignorant.”
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lord, what an ignorant POS--to make a statement like this--to make it " racial "--to sensationalize it for propaganda purposes--a typical " liberal darling "--people merely wanting to exercize their constitutional rights are, by implication, racists, elitists, lazy, etc--what an utter crock

gosh damn, i'm offended--would like to challenge him to a duel but unfortunately no longer allowed--maybe can get together a bunch of people to protest and get him fired--you know the program


 Playing the victim card?

flan


 Really, Flan?

Wanting to exercise one's Constitutional rights makes one a victim?

no


 It was implied in his statement.

flan


 How?



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I don't understand how any US citizen exercising their Constitutional right is playing *the victim* ???

Though I do see it all the time IMHO coming from the other *side* or viewpoint on this subject.

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You're asking her too many questions...

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Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
chef wrote:
flan327 wrote:
burns07 wrote:


“Gun praisers are just like the people who were in favor of slavery back in the day — the elite, lazy and ignorant.”
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lord, what an ignorant POS--to make a statement like this--to make it " racial "--to sensationalize it for propaganda purposes--a typical " liberal darling "--people merely wanting to exercize their constitutional rights are, by implication, racists, elitists, lazy, etc--what an utter crock

gosh damn, i'm offended--would like to challenge him to a duel but unfortunately no longer allowed--maybe can get together a bunch of people to protest and get him fired--you know the program


 Playing the victim card?

flan


 Really, Flan?

Wanting to exercise one's Constitutional rights makes one a victim?

no


 It was implied in his statement.

flan


 No.  It really wasn't.


 You are welcome to your opinion.

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I never would have imagined this, but I’m planning on taking a class and getting my gun license just in case. In today’s world, I just believe it’s the smart thing to do.”

I am glad to see this person is planning on taking a class and not just buying a gun. It is not that easy to fire and hit what you are aiming at, despite all the shooting you see on TV and in the movies. Takes training and skill. Not just to shoot, but to maintain your weapon....

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I never would have imagined this, but I’m planning on taking a class and getting my gun license just in case. In today’s world, I just believe it’s the smart thing to do.”

I am glad to see this person is planning on taking a class and not just buying a gun. It is not that easy to fire and hit what you are aiming at, despite all the shooting you see on TV and in the movies. Takes training and skill. Not just to shoot, but to maintain your weapon....


You are so right.  It is nothing like the movies.   Plus they teach you how to safely load a gun and how to hold a gun.  



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I just watched Chicago Med.

The theme was, a teenager entered a movie theater through an emergency exit by the screen, carrying what looked like an M-16.

There were sounds of rapid gunfire, and people ran, panicky out the back. One young mother was trampled, protecting her young son from the feet of escaping patrons.

A man in the group was carrying his licensed pistol, and shot the intruder.

 

 

Fast forward, the "gunman" was a prankster who like to frighten people and post the videos on his blog. His weapon turned out to be a leaf blower.

For that he was shot 6 times ...

When the bystander found out he shot a kid with a leaf blower, he walked into traffic and got killed. At first the media portrayed him as a hero ...

then tore him up for shooting a teenager with a leaf blower. Then he killed himself.

 

 

 



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kudos to the shooter--his motives were pure--he was acting to protect innocent people from harm--tragic that he blamed himself rather than the idiot prankster for the prankster's demise

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I just watched Chicago Med.

The theme was, a teenager entered a movie theater through an emergency exit by the screen, carrying what looked like an M-16.

There were sounds of rapid gunfire, and people ran, panicky out the back. One young mother was trampled, protecting her young son from the feet of escaping patrons.

A man in the group was carrying his licensed pistol, and shot the intruder.

 

 

Fast forward, the "gunman" was a prankster who like to frighten people and post the videos on his blog. His weapon turned out to be a leaf blower.

For that he was shot 6 times ...

When the bystander found out he shot a kid with a leaf blower, he walked into traffic and got killed. At first the media portrayed him as a hero ...

then tore him up for shooting a teenager with a leaf blower. Then he killed himself.

 

 

 


Well, it's a TV show, ed. 

But, for the sake of discussion...

How would anyone in the theater, know he was a prankster?

 Let's say, no one had a gun, and shot him.

A mother got trampled. (Did she live?) I've never seen the show.

What if someone had died of a heart attack, thanks to this stupid kid.

Would (general)you, throw him in jail for a good long time? (I would.)

Actions have consequences.

To do something so reckless, in real life, could very well get you killed.

The fact that this particular TV show, seems to make the person carrying his gun, out to be the bad guy....I'm sorry.

I'm not buying it.

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I just watched Chicago Med.

The theme was, a teenager entered a movie theater through an emergency exit by the screen, carrying what looked like an M-16.

There were sounds of rapid gunfire, and people ran, panicky out the back. One young mother was trampled, protecting her young son from the feet of escaping patrons.

A man in the group was carrying his licensed pistol, and shot the intruder.

 

 

Fast forward, the "gunman" was a prankster who like to frighten people and post the videos on his blog. His weapon turned out to be a leaf blower.

For that he was shot 6 times ...

When the bystander found out he shot a kid with a leaf blower, he walked into traffic and got killed. At first the media portrayed him as a hero ...

then tore him up for shooting a teenager with a leaf blower. Then he killed himself.

 

 

 


Well, it's a TV show, ed. 

But, for the sake of discussion...

How would anyone in the theater, know he was a prankster?

 Let's say, no one had a gun, and shot him.

A mother got trampled. (Did she live?) I've never seen the show.

What if someone had died of a heart attack, thanks to this stupid kid.

Would (general)you, throw him in jail for a good long time? (I would.)

Actions have consequences.

To do something so reckless, in real life, could very well get you killed.

The fact that this particular TV show, seems to make the person carrying his gun, out to be the bad guy....I'm sorry.

I'm not buying it.

JMHO.


I agree with FWM.

It's a fictional situation. Real life is... you know, real.

And people CAN think logically. 



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many years ago, when still lived in austin, had an idiot prankster down the bar from me pull an uzi from under his jacket and threaten the bartender/myself with it ( sort of brandishing it, gansta fashion )--the only thing i had close at hand was a genuine heavy-glass beer mug and my bare hands--hit him twice with it--knocked him out and broke his jaw--when the police arrived there were no charges filed against me and the bar's owner shook my hand and thanked me--turns out it was a replica paintball gun but without the requisite red tip--will bet you that idiot has never taken a toy gun into a bar again




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many years ago, when still lived in austin, had an idiot prankster down the bar from me pull an uzi from under his jacket and threaten the bartender/myself with it ( sort of brandishing it, gansta fashion )--the only thing i had close at hand was a genuine heavy-glass beer mug and my bare hands--hit him twice with it--knocked him out and broke his jaw--when the police arrived there were no charges filed against me and the bar's owner shook my hand and thanked me--turns out it was a replica paintball gun but without the requisite red tip--will bet you that idiot has never taken a toy gun into a bar again



 I would hope that he learned his lesson, burns!

You defended yourself, and that's good.

I'm glad the police didn't give you a hard time over it.smile



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was very lucky that evening--had pretty much resigned myself to getting shot--he was about eight feet from me and would only have the one chance to reach him--the bartender ducked down just as i went for the guy--cleared the weapon with my left arm just as was coming down hard with the beer mug to his head--his knees buckled and he began sinking--pulled the weapon free with my left hand and hit him again as he was falling, breaking his jaw--as i say, was lucky--had it been a genuine uzi, would have probably taken a round or two in the chest/shoulder--still, it had to be done

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How does a leaf blower look like a gun?

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I think it's a good thing if more Americans are exercising their constitutional right to protect themselves.

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How does a leaf blower look like a gun?
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Here's a link to an article about that particular episode including a video clip where they show a picture of the "leaf blower" to the guy that shot him: www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/erik-soderstrom/2015/12/09/nbcs-chicago-med-airs-hour-long-attack-second-amendment

In a dark theater, I could understand how that could be mistaken for a gun. Consider the M-16 with an M-203 grenade launcher attached. The complete barrel of that combination looks huge. And if the motor of the blower was at a bad angle to the shooter, and the boy holding the blower acts like it's a gun? Yes, I can see how it could be mistaken for one.


Here's a thought for anyone (no one here, on this board, obviously; just a general comment) that might think that was a cool prank. Don't want to get shot? Don't act like you have a gun and are going to shoot people.

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I never would have imagined this, but I’m planning on taking a class and getting my gun license just in case. In today’s world, I just believe it’s the smart thing to do.”

I am glad to see this person is planning on taking a class and not just buying a gun. It is not that easy to fire and hit what you are aiming at, despite all the shooting you see on TV and in the movies. Takes training and skill. Not just to shoot, but to maintain your weapon....


 Yes, it does.  I remember my father cleaning his guns when I was a kid.   All disassembled over the kitchen table.  

 

A friend of mine worked in a gun store to put himself through law school.  I remember having him train me on the use of pepper spray.  (Back then, in California, you had to be trained and licensed to carry that).  



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How does a leaf blower look like a gun?
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In a dark theater, I could understand how that could be mistaken for a gun. Consider the M-16 with an M-203 grenade launcher attached. The complete barrel of that combination looks huge. And if the motor of the blower was at a bad angle to the shooter, and the boy holding the blower acts like it's a gun? Yes, I can see how it could be mistaken for one.


Here's a thought for anyone (no one here, on this board, obviously; just a general comment) that might think that was a cool prank. Don't want to get shot? Don't act like you have a gun and are going to shoot people.


I saw the episode, and given the circumstances, I would have shot the prankster too. When they first showed the leaf blower, it DID look like it could be an assault weapon. 

Anyone who runs TOWARD gunfire intending to stop carnage, is a hero in my book.

 

Note that in the panic the kid caused, a young mother was trampled to death. Some prank!

 



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Why would anyone sitting there think "oh, that's a prank" and you dont' expect to see a leafblower, that's idiotic.

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