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Surprise: School That Is Tolerant of Anti-Vaxxers Suffers Massive Chickenpox Outbreak

By Rachel E. Gross

 

A quarter of students at a Brunswick school have been itchily indisposed.

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Tolerance of racial and cultural diversity is good. Tolerance of those who endanger the community by refusing to vaccinate their kids is not. An Australian primary school just learned that the hard way: A bout of chickenpox has swept Brunswick North West Primary School in Melbourne, infecting at least 80 of the school’s 320 students within the past two weeks, reports The Age.

Well, what did they expect? In a recent newsletter to parents, the school’s president Trevor Bowen directly tells parents that they should tolerate the vaccine dodgers among them. And there are a lot of them to tolerate: Just 73.2 percent of students at the school had been immunized, compared to 92 percent within that postcode district and 90.4 percent in all of Victoria, Bowen reported in May.

From the President’s Message:

We expect all community members to act respectfully and with tolerance when interacting with other parents and carers who may have a differing opinion to their own. This includes an opposing understanding about child immunisation.

People from both sides of the discussion have expressed their thoughts in terms of the wellbeing and ongoing health of the children they care so much for. This is most admirable. I ask all community members to interact respectfully at all times and with a sense of tolerance and acceptance of diversity.

Those words may sound “respectful” and “admirable”—until 25 percent of your school is rendered itching, scratching, and out of commission. Health officials in Australia are rightly concerned about the possibility of this happening elsewhere as vaccination rates plateau. As Health Minister Jill Hennessy put it: "The science on this issue is really clear. Vaccinations save lives.” "Get your advice from a doctor, not from some quack who's opposed to vaccination based on dodgy science," she added to The Age.

In January, Australia’s “No Jab, No Play” policy is set to take effect, which will prevent unvaccinated pre-schoolers from attending child care or kindergarten. It's part of the country's $19 million effort to boost immunization rates, which has included making it mandatory for parents to vaccinate their children in order to get childcare tax benefits and rebates. The new policy, however, does not apply to primary or high schools. In schools like Brunswick, parents have to report their kids’ immunization status, but no kid can be barred from enrolling for not having been immunized.

“While vaccination rates in Australia have increased ... vaccine objection rates for children under the age of seven have also increased steadily, especially under the conscientious objector category,” wrote Prime Minister Tony Abbott in a statement in the Sunday Telegraph introducing the effort earlier this year. “More than 39,000 children aged under seven are not vaccinated because their parents are vaccine objectors. This is an increase of more than 24,000 children over 10 years.” 

So how are parents reacting to the Brunswick outbreak? At least some appear to be unperturbed: “Given that he was only out of school for a week, it’s just one of these things that happens,” one parent tells 7 News Australia with a shrug.

The problem is, that isn’t true. Out-of-control epidemics of chickenpox that tear through schools aren’t just an inevitable occurrence, like the annual coming of winter or Donald Trump saying something awful on national television. They’re preventable through the simple act of vaccination. When you extend an attitude of “tolerance” to parents who are against vaccinating their kids, you endanger the whole community.

Rachel E. Gross is a Slate editorial assistant.

 



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How many of the the sick kids had not been vaccinated I wonder?

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If kids that were vaccinated got the chickenpox, something is wrong with the vaccine.

My bet is, all of the infected were un-vaccinated.

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It's an itchy 2 weeks.



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Did any of them die?

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I didn't see that they did.



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Then it will be ok.

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I had the chicken pox when I was 6 months old, My dd had the chicken pox when she was 7 months old and my son at 5. We all survived.

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Yeah. I don't know of a single death, or catastrophic lingering effects, of chicken pox.

One cousin has a scar on her cheek from a pox. It's about the size of a pencil eraser. Just a little lighter in color than the rest of her skin.


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I think I heard of maybe a few but it is rare. If the vac was offered back then I would have had them vaccinated but it wasn't. I've heard of people purposely exposing their kids to the chicken pox. I would never do that.

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Yeah. I don't know of a single death, or catastrophic lingering effects, of chicken pox.

One cousin has a scar on her cheek from a pox. It's about the size of a pencil eraser. Just a little lighter in color than the rest of her skin.


 Actually, I do.  Having chicken pox can cause shingles later in life, which can kill you.  My friend's brother died of shingles complications at age 28.  But that is rare.

 

Now, the problem is, if it happens with chicken pox, it can happen with measles, mumps, rubella, etc.



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DH had shingles...very nasty.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

Yeah. I don't know of a single death, or catastrophic lingering effects, of chicken pox.

One cousin has a scar on her cheek from a pox. It's about the size of a pencil eraser. Just a little lighter in color than the rest of her skin.


 Actually, I do.  Having chicken pox can cause shingles later in life, which can kill you.  My friend's brother died of shingles complications at age 28.  But that is rare.

 

Now, the problem is, if it happens with chicken pox, it can happen with measles, mumps, rubella, etc.


 I know of 2 people (DDs friends) that got the vaccine and now have shingles before the age of 25. I dont think the vaccine was a good idea. Its Chicken Pox. We all had it, we survived...



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Yeah. I don't know of a single death, or catastrophic lingering effects, of chicken pox.

One cousin has a scar on her cheek from a pox. It's about the size of a pencil eraser. Just a little lighter in color than the rest of her skin.


I had chicken pox so bad that I was hospitalized as a child and ended up getting it twice more.  It can be a very horrible illness.



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Yeah. I don't know of a single death, or catastrophic lingering effects, of chicken pox.

One cousin has a scar on her cheek from a pox. It's about the size of a pencil eraser. Just a little lighter in color than the rest of her skin.


I had chicken pox so bad that I was hospitalized as a child and ended up getting it twice more.  It can be a very horrible illness.


 Oh, that's terrible, Bonny.

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Yeah. I don't know of a single death, or catastrophic lingering effects, of chicken pox.

One cousin has a scar on her cheek from a pox. It's about the size of a pencil eraser. Just a little lighter in color than the rest of her skin.


I had chicken pox so bad that I was hospitalized as a child and ended up getting it twice more.  It can be a very horrible illness.


 Oh, that's terrible, Bonny.

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 Now I get shingles which are the freaking worst.   I seriously get pissed at people who don't vaccinate.  I wouldn't wish it on anybody.



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Varicella can, and does, kill.

blogs.wsj.com/health/2011/07/25/how-does-chickenpox-kill/

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I have heard its worse when an adult gets it. I never had it....hmmmm.
But have been exposed so many times. Maybe I had a sub clinical case....lets hope lol.

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Mom, who is 85, of course didn't have the vaccine as a child, since it hadn't been invented. She has shingles; the out break every so often is horrible. These anit vaccers are setting their kids up for a life of pain that could have been prevented by one single shot. What a bunch of inconsiderate, uncaring parent morons. Flame me!

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My kids didn't get it.

It wasnt available until Caitlyn was 5. All three had it consecutively. That was a long 6 weeks.



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Bonny22Pye wrote:
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lilyofcourse wrote:

Yeah. I don't know of a single death, or catastrophic lingering effects, of chicken pox.

One cousin has a scar on her cheek from a pox. It's about the size of a pencil eraser. Just a little lighter in color than the rest of her skin.


I had chicken pox so bad that I was hospitalized as a child and ended up getting it twice more.  It can be a very horrible illness.


 Oh, that's terrible, Bonny.

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 Now I get shingles which are the freaking worst.   I seriously get pissed at people who don't vaccinate.  I wouldn't wish it on anybody.


 Oh my goodness  bonny how horrible. I thought  you couldn't  get chicken  pox twice, guess that is wrong.



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I think I have a mild shingles case right now. I've never had it before but all the symptoms match up.

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I had the chicken pox. I got the Shingles vaccine.

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Lindley wrote:
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Yeah. I don't know of a single death, or catastrophic lingering effects, of chicken pox.

One cousin has a scar on her cheek from a pox. It's about the size of a pencil eraser. Just a little lighter in color than the rest of her skin.


I had chicken pox so bad that I was hospitalized as a child and ended up getting it twice more.  It can be a very horrible illness.


 Oh, that's terrible, Bonny.

flan


 Now I get shingles which are the freaking worst.   I seriously get pissed at people who don't vaccinate.  I wouldn't wish it on anybody.


 Oh my goodness  bonny how horrible. I thought  you couldn't  get chicken  pox twice, guess that is wrong.


 If your immune system is not fully developed when you have it, it will not build up the immunity.  That is the case in the very young (getting it before 2) and when your immune system is compromised.



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Mom, who is 85, of course didn't have the vaccine as a child, since it hadn't been invented. She has shingles; the out break every so often is horrible. These anit vaccers are setting their kids up for a life of pain that could have been prevented by one single shot. What a bunch of inconsiderate, uncaring parent morons. Flame me!


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