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http://www.itv.com/news/2015-12-09/british-soldier-who-lost-leg-in-iraq-issues-powerful-message-to-those-who-think-he-should-hate-muslims/

By Jamie Roberton: ITV News

A British soldier who lost his leg in Iraq has posted a powerful message to people "expecting racism" from him just because he "got blown up".

Chris Herbert was just 19 when his vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb in Basra, Iraq which killed his friend, injured another and left him facing the prospect of living the rest of his life without his right leg.

In the weeks after the Paris atrocities, the former serviceman said he has been troubled by the number of people who have expected him to be Islamophobic just because a "Muslim man blew me up".

In a powerful Facebook message, which has been shared tens of thousands of times, Herbert goes on to list the Muslims who have helped him - including the Muslim surgeon who performed the surgery that saved his life.

The former soldier has listed the amazing things Muslims have done for him. Credit: Chris Herbert

Herbert, who lives in Portsmouth, also speaks about the "white Brits" who have done unpleasant things to him in his life.

"If you want to hate an entire race of men and women for the actions of a few d***heads feel free, but don't push your views on me, thinking I am an easy target because one d******** decided it was my day to die," he wrote.

"Blaming all Muslims for the actions of groups like Daeshe and the Taliban, is like blaming all Christians for the actions of the KKK or Westboro Baptist Church.

"Get a grip of your lives, hug your family and get back to work."

His message - just a day after Donald Trump sparked outrage when he called for all Muslims to be banned from entering the US - has won praise across social media.

Chris Herbert has won praise for his emotional Facebook post. Credit: Chris Herbert

ITV News has approached Chris Herbert for further comment but in the meantime, here's his Facebook post in full:

Getting frustrated by some people expecting racism from me, because I got blown up.

Here it is:

Yes. A Muslim man blew me up, and I lost my leg.

A Muslim man also lost his arm that day wearing a British Uniform.

A Muslim medic was in the helicopter that took me from the field.

A Muslim surgeon performed the surgery that saved my life.

A Muslim Nurse was part of the team that helped me when I returned to the UK.

A Muslim Healthcare Assistant was part of the team that sorted out my day to day needs in rehabilitation when I was learning to walk.

A Muslim taxi driver gave me a free ride the first time I went for a beer with my Dad after I came home.

A Muslim doctor offered my Dad comfort and advice in a pub, when he didn't know how to deal with my medicines and side effects.

Contrary to that:

A white Brit spat in my girlfriend's face for 'f****** a cripple when you could have me [him]'

A White Brit pushed my wheelchair away from a lift so he could use it first.

A White Brit screamed at my Dad for parking in a disabled bay when I was in the services coming home.

(Although, alot of people helped in my recovery! I dont hate white brits either! hahaha)

Point is, f*** off. I know who I dislike, and I know who I don't. I know who I appreciate, and I know who I don't.

If you want to hate an entire race of men and women for the actions of a few d***heads feel free, but don't push your views on me, thinking I am an easy target because one d******** decided it was my day to die.

Blaming all Muslims for the actions of groups like Daeshe and the Taliban, is like blaming all Christians for the actions of the KKK or Westboro Baptist Church. Get a grip of your lives, hug your family and get back to work.

 

"You're a wonderful person you are," Heather Hills said.

Calum John said: "One of the best things I've ever read on Facebook this!"

"Amazing words," Richard Egan wrote.

– Chris Herbert

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"Hate" has nothing to do with protecting yourself from people who are trying to kill you.

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I am really getting sick of everything being portrayed as "Hate". If you don't like Obama's policies you "HATE" him. If you want to protect our country from Muslim extremists you "HATE" them. That's just bunk.

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Only it's the "few" who do the nice things and the MILLIONS who don't.

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Westboro people dont kill other people...stupid comparison.


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I hate that he lost a leg fighting in a war that should have been finished before he was old enough to enlist.



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I hate that he lost a leg fighting in a war that should have been finished before he was old enough to enlist.


Going into Iraq in the first place was just STUPID. 



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No. It wasnt.

It should have been done and over in the 80s.

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I hate that he lost a leg fighting in a war that should have been finished before he was old enough to enlist.


Going into Iraq in the first place was just STUPID. 


Tough one.  I don't think that liberating Kuwait was a bad reason.  We should have toppled Saddam at that time--however--those people can't govern themselves, so I'm not sure some of the same things wouldn't have happened, anyway.

They need a dictator.  The religion of Islam is generally incompatible with democracy. 

 

 



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His attitude is amazing.

Last night DH and I watched a Muslim who spoke out about those committing terrorism. People are always saying why don't they speak out about it? Why don't they just stand up for America? Well, he did. And his Mosque kicked him out. Then his neighbor found out he was a Muslim and turned him in for terrorism. He spent three years on the Watch List before he was cleared. Gee, I wonder why they don't speak out?

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curious, he doesn't mention the muslim bombmaker that nearly killed him


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His attitude is amazing.

Last night DH and I watched a Muslim who spoke out about those committing terrorism. People are always saying why don't they speak out about it? Why don't they just stand up for America? Well, he did. And his Mosque kicked him out. Then his neighbor found out he was a Muslim and turned him in for terrorism. He spent three years on the Watch List before he was cleared. Gee, I wonder why they don't speak out?


 There ya go.  It's not a few "radicals"--it's the entire religion. 



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His attitude is amazing.

Last night DH and I watched a Muslim who spoke out about those committing terrorism. People are always saying why don't they speak out about it? Why don't they just stand up for America? Well, he did. And his Mosque kicked him out. Then his neighbor found out he was a Muslim and turned him in for terrorism. He spent three years on the Watch List before he was cleared. Gee, I wonder why they don't speak out?


 There ya go.  It's not a few "radicals"--it's the entire religion. 


 Yep. That just proves the point...



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It doesn't prove every Muslim is a terrorist. It just proves they were idiots. Maybe there were terrorists there. Maybe they just didn't want him speaking out. But whatever, you want all Muslims dead. Such a great attitude.

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I don't know everyone who thinks every Muslim is a terrorist. Nor, do i know anyone who "hates" them. So, I am really sick to death of hearing that.

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It doesn't prove every Muslim is a terrorist. It just proves they were idiots. Maybe there were terrorists there. Maybe they just didn't want him speaking out. But whatever, you want all Muslims dead. Such a great attitude.


 Versus the "attitude" of burying our heads in the literal sand while people are getting killed due to political correctness.



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It doesn't prove every Muslim is a terrorist. It just proves they were idiots. Maybe there were terrorists there. Maybe they just didn't want him speaking out. But whatever, you want all Muslims dead. Such a great attitude.


?????

It proves that at least a majority of that mosque tacitly support terrorism. 

The fact that they didn't want him speaking out IS THE FVCKING POINT.  



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It's been said several times, by several posters, on several threads. Ask LL.

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It's been said several times, by several posters, on several threads. Ask LL.


Quote even one.  I doubt you can.   



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I love this. It just proves that the entire religion is all about terror. Everyone may not agree with it, but its at the core of their teachings, and anyone that disagrees is excommunicated. Peaceful and loving my a$$. The bolded 5 words tells the whole story...

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Don't have time right now. I am going out to dinner. But when I get back I'll gladly do it. LL issued a warning about hate speech.

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I am so sick of the hate. You do not know that. Why don't you just have the government kill her off Lily? I mean that's what you really want.

This is sickening.

WHat's sickening is giving them the fruits of the blood of our soldiers so they come here and get education and live the American dream and then go gun down American citizens. Funny how you call Lilly out for "hate". Whom has Lilly gunned down? Yet they are murdering American families so i am having a hard time shedding a tear for their "plight" when they had everything anyone would could want. And, the mom was funneling them money, just heard that on the news so yeah. Lilly is spot on.

I don't see how an infant did any of that. That child is now an orphan. And for someone who fights for the rights of babies everywhere, I am shocked you would respond this way.

Here's one. But there were two posts that LL clearly labeled as hate speech. I can pull them up later but like I said I'm getting ready to go out.

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That post says no such thing. Good effort though...



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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I am so sick of the hate. You do not know that. Why don't you just have the government kill her off Lily? I mean that's what you really want.

This is sickening.

WHat's sickening is giving them the fruits of the blood of our soldiers so they come here and get education and live the American dream and then go gun down American citizens. Funny how you call Lilly out for "hate". Whom has Lilly gunned down? Yet they are murdering American families so i am having a hard time shedding a tear for their "plight" when they had everything anyone would could want. And, the mom was funneling them money, just heard that on the news so yeah. Lilly is spot on.

I don't see how an infant did any of that. That child is now an orphan. And for someone who fights for the rights of babies everywhere, I am shocked you would respond this way.

Here's one. But there were two posts that LL clearly labeled as hate speech. I can pull them up later but like I said I'm getting ready to go out.


????  Those don't say what you seem to think they do, at all. 

 

You said people were labeling "all" Muslims as terrorists and that people "hate" all Muslims.

 

What you just quoted displays NEITHER of those.   



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LL warned two posters in particular. So stop playing coy ohfour. You know you were one of them. LL called it hate speech and you know it. When I get home I'll go back through and find the exact quotes. I don't have time to do the hunting right now.

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LL warned two posters in particular. So stop playing coy ohfour. You know you were one of them. LL called it hate speech and you know it. When I get home I'll go back through and find the exact quotes. I don't have time to do the hunting right now.


????  LL never addressed anything of the sort with me on any thread. 

 

Again, what you quoted does NOT say what you seem to think it does. 



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I dated a Muslim man. And I made friends with several Muslim women. One, in particular, was an American and converted. She was very kind and always spoke openly to me about her life and religion. I didn't always agree with her but she was a very kind person. I refuse to label all Muslims as terrorists. Some of you can run around doing that but it's just not true.

SOME Muslims are terrorists.
All terrorists are Muslims.

Don't confuse the two. So many people are getting this fact backward.

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LL warned two posters in particular. So stop playing coy ohfour. You know you were one of them. LL called it hate speech and you know it. When I get home I'll go back through and find the exact quotes. I don't have time to do the hunting right now.


????  LL never addressed anything of the sort with me on any thread. 

 

Again, what you quoted does NOT say what you seem to think it does. 


 Show me where I said she warned YOU?



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I dated a Muslim man. And I made friends with several Muslim women. One, in particular, was an American and converted. She was very kind and always spoke openly to me about her life and religion. I didn't always agree with her but she was a very kind person. I refuse to label all Muslims as terrorists. Some of you can run around doing that but it's just not true.

SOME Muslims are terrorists.
All terrorists are Muslims.

Don't confuse the two. So many people are getting this fact backward.


No, not all terrorists are Muslims.

 

However, not the point.  The point is that the goal of the entire religion is to stamp out all other religions and install sharia law.  They have done it EVERYWHERE they have gotten to be a majority of the population--either by force, terror, or even the ballot box. 

 

Individual members may say they are not in favor of that--but who do they vote for? The non-Muslim candidates?  Not a chance.  



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LL warned two posters in particular. So stop playing coy ohfour. You know you were one of them. LL called it hate speech and you know it. When I get home I'll go back through and find the exact quotes. I don't have time to do the hunting right now.


????  LL never addressed anything of the sort with me on any thread. 

 

Again, what you quoted does NOT say what you seem to think it does. 


 Show me where I said she warned YOU?


I thought it was us that were discussing this.  confuseconfuse 



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LL warned two posters in particular. So stop playing coy ohfour. You know you were one of them. LL called it hate speech and you know it. When I get home I'll go back through and find the exact quotes. I don't have time to do the hunting right now.


 Wrong. She warned be for being rude to Flan. Had nothing to do with hate speech towards Muslims...



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LL warned two posters in particular. So stop playing coy ohfour. You know you were one of them. LL called it hate speech and you know it. When I get home I'll go back through and find the exact quotes. I don't have time to do the hunting right now.


????  LL never addressed anything of the sort with me on any thread. 

 

Again, what you quoted does NOT say what you seem to think it does. 


 Show me where I said she warned YOU?


I thought it was us that were discussing this.  confuseconfuse 


 My misunderstanding.  I was thinking we were talking in general.  But I can still find the quotes.  Two posters were told they were using hate speech.  LL used those exact words.



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LL warned two posters in particular. So stop playing coy ohfour. You know you were one of them. LL called it hate speech and you know it. When I get home I'll go back through and find the exact quotes. I don't have time to do the hunting right now.


????  LL never addressed anything of the sort with me on any thread. 

 

Again, what you quoted does NOT say what you seem to think it does. 


 Show me where I said she warned YOU?


I thought it was us that were discussing this.  confuseconfuse 


 My misunderstanding.  I was thinking we were talking in general.  But I can still find the quotes.  Two posters were told they were using hate speech.  LL used those exact words.


Maybe--but that is a matter of interpretation and NOT the same thing as saying you "hate" all Muslims or that "all" Muslims are terrorists.

Just because LL defines something as hate does not necessarily mean it is.  



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I posted a news report talking with 2 radical muslims.

One quoted their Quran. It says they are called to terrorize nonbelievers.

So even those peaceful, upstanding Muslim citizens are commanded to terrorize nonbelievers.

It's in a tread to itself.

Watch it. It's very interesting.

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Plus, just because they are not technically "terrorists" as in blowing people up or shooting people--that doesn't mean they don't believe in/practice/condone things such as honor killings, child brides, female circumcision, killing gays, stoning rape VICTIMS, etc....

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Exactly.

Yes. The radicals are not the predominant muslim.

But the whole religion goes against our Constitution and Bill of Rights.



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Still waiting on the posts that were deemed "hate speech"...

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