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flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

RE: Dear Prudie: My family carries concealed guns around my 2 yr old

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I'd like to know why the grandparents have so little regard for mom. Maybe they are the Brats.

Are you going to do every little unreasonable thing that your kids want you to do in YOUR OWN home?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
They are adults. Having a baby doesn't entitle you to blackmail them with it.

To me, this is similar to the letter about relatives smoking in the house.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I'd like to know why the grandparents have so little regard for mom. Maybe they are the Brats.
Are you going to do every little unreasonable thing that your kids want you to do in YOUR OWN home?

Why is it UNreasonable to lock up the guns when young children are in the house?

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I'd like to know why the grandparents have so little regard for mom. Maybe they are the Brats.
Are you going to do every little unreasonable thing that your kids want you to do in YOUR OWN home?
Why is it UNreasonable to lock up the guns when young children are in the house?
flan

Children need to learn to be around guns, as well--and the younger they are taught to properly respect them, the LESS likely it will be that something bad will happen.

huskerbb · Guru

In general, it's unreasonable to make a bunch of demands on people on how they must do things in THEIR OWN HOUSE.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I'd like to know why the grandparents have so little regard for mom. Maybe they are the Brats.
Are you going to do every little unreasonable thing that your kids want you to do in YOUR OWN home?
Why is it UNreasonable to lock up the guns when young children are in the house?
flan

Beats me.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
In general, it's unreasonable to make a bunch of demands on people on how they must do things in THEIR OWN HOUSE.

She asked ONE thing.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
In general, it's unreasonable to make a bunch of demands on people on how they must do things in THEIR OWN HOUSE.

Wtf are u babbling about? It isnt a bunch of demands or every little thing. Can we have a discussion without melodrama?

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
In general, it's unreasonable to make a bunch of demands on people on how they must do things in THEIR OWN HOUSE.
She asked ONE thing.
flan

So what? I wouldn't do it. It's ridiculous.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
In general, it's unreasonable to make a bunch of demands on people on how they must do things in THEIR OWN HOUSE.
Wtf are u babbling about? It isnt a bunch of demands or every little thing. Can we have a discussion without melodrama?

Where does it stop?? Stuff that YOU agree with? That's a wholly ridiculous measure.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Then dont.

huskerbb · Guru

I wouldn't, and neither, apparently, are they.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Then they can find some other way to see their grandkid. Skype.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

So your GUN is more important than your GRANDCHILD?!

flan

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Then they can find some other way to see their grandkid. Skype.

You don't seem to be able to read. She WANTS to go see them. YOU are the one who is saying otherwise.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
So your GUN is more important than your GRANDCHILD?!

flan

What a stupid question. It's not a choice of one or another.

In fact, one has absolutely NOTHING to do with the other.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Sunday 13th of December 2015 08:35:54 PM

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
So your GUN is more important than your GRANDCHILD?!

flan
What a stupid question. It's not a choice of one or another.

That's NOT what the LW said.

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
So your GUN is more important than your GRANDCHILD?!

flan
What a stupid question. It's not a choice of one or another.
That's NOT what the LW said.
flan

You must not be able to read, either. She wants to get this resolved in her favor--but she NEVER ONCE said she wouldn't take the kid over there if it wasn't.

Also, if she sets it up as a choice--that HER idiotic choice and no one else's.

huskerbb · Guru

YOU say this is only "one" thing.

But why do you get to decide what "one" thing is important or not?

Let's say they had a dog and the daughter didn't like dogs. She demands that they board it out during the holidays when she is there? Is that reasonable?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
YOU say this is only "one" thing.

But why do you get to decide what "one" thing is important or not?

Let's say they had a dog and the daughter didn't like dogs. She demands that they board it out during the holidays when she is there? Is that reasonable?

The LW gets to make the decision for her CHILD.

flan

FNW · Guru

I wonder how necessary it is to be walking around the house with a gun holstered to your hip. Is the neighborhood that bad? Are they ready to duel? Are their penises so small they are overcompensating by showing off their glocks? Are family squabbles likely to escalate if they aren't armed? The scenario here just paints a really odd visual to me.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
YOU say this is only "one" thing.

But why do you get to decide what "one" thing is important or not?

Let's say they had a dog and the daughter didn't like dogs. She demands that they board it out during the holidays when she is there? Is that reasonable?
The LW gets to make the decision for her CHILD.
flan

No, she doesn't. It's not her house. Just because someone wants something does not make it reasonable.

Plus, you didn't answer the second question.

huskerbb · Guru

FNW wrote:
I wonder how necessary it is to be walking around the house with a gun holstered to your hip. Is the neighborhood that bad? Are they ready to duel? Are their penises so small they are overcompensating by showing off their glocks? Are family squabbles likely to escalate if they aren't armed? The scenario here just paints a really odd visual to me.

Um, if they are CONCEALED, they aren't showing anything off.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
YOU say this is only "one" thing.

But why do you get to decide what "one" thing is important or not?

Let's say they had a dog and the daughter didn't like dogs. She demands that they board it out during the holidays when she is there? Is that reasonable?
The LW gets to make the decision for her CHILD.
flan
No, she doesn't. It's not her house. Just because someone wants something does not make it reasonable.
Plus, you didn't answer the second question.

Answer to husker's SECOND question:

Is the dog well-behaved? Is she allergic? Can the dog not stay in a room in the house?

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
YOU say this is only "one" thing.

But why do you get to decide what "one" thing is important or not?

Let's say they had a dog and the daughter didn't like dogs. She demands that they board it out during the holidays when she is there? Is that reasonable?
The LW gets to make the decision for her CHILD.
flan
No, she doesn't. It's not her house. Just because someone wants something does not make it reasonable.
Plus, you didn't answer the second question.
Answer to husker's SECOND question:
Is the dog well-behaved? Is she allergic? Can the dog not stay in a room in the house?
flan

Yes, it's well behaved. No, she's not allergic. Well, it could, but she doesn't want that.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
YOU say this is only "one" thing.

But why do you get to decide what "one" thing is important or not?

Let's say they had a dog and the daughter didn't like dogs. She demands that they board it out during the holidays when she is there? Is that reasonable?
The LW gets to make the decision for her CHILD.
flan
No, she doesn't. It's not her house. Just because someone wants something does not make it reasonable.
Plus, you didn't answer the second question.
Answer to husker's SECOND question:
Is the dog well-behaved? Is she allergic? Can the dog not stay in a room in the house?
flan
Yes, it's well behaved. No, she's not allergic. Well, it could, but she doesn't want that.

Then, in my humble opinion, that's not reasonable.

Oh, BTW, a GUN is not a DOG.

flan

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
YOU say this is only "one" thing.

But why do you get to decide what "one" thing is important or not?

Let's say they had a dog and the daughter didn't like dogs. She demands that they board it out during the holidays when she is there? Is that reasonable?
The LW gets to make the decision for her CHILD.
flan
No, she doesn't. It's not her house. Just because someone wants something does not make it reasonable.
Plus, you didn't answer the second question.
Answer to husker's SECOND question:
Is the dog well-behaved? Is she allergic? Can the dog not stay in a room in the house?
flan
Yes, it's well behaved. No, she's not allergic. Well, it could, but she doesn't want that.

Then, in my humble opinion, that's not reasonable.
Oh, BTW, a GUN is not a DOG.
flan

There ya go. It's just nonsense that YOU seem to think is reasonable.

NEITHER is reasonable. She's not allergic to the guns. There's no indication from even the LW that they are not "behaving" with the guns. They can keep them in another room, but that isn't enough for her, either.

huskerbb · Guru

I'd MUCH rather be in the same room with a gun than a dog.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Then they can find some other way to see their grandkid. Skype.
You don't seem to be able to read. She WANTS to go see them. YOU are the one who is saying otherwise.

I can read just fine. Or do u need to start that baloney?

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Then they can find some other way to see their grandkid. Skype.
You don't seem to be able to read. She WANTS to go see them. YOU are the one who is saying otherwise.
I can read just fine. Or do u need to start that baloney?

Then show me in the letter where she says she is going to boycott seeing them.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I said that was her prerogative.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
I said that was her prerogative.

Of course it is--but you talk as if it is some sort of foregone conclusion--that they are going to have to use Skype or whatever to see their grandkid. You don't know that, at all.

Try to focus on some sort of solution here, rather than ridiculous ultimatums that likely won't be followed through with, anyway.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

If they are going to dig their heels in and completely disregard her then yeah.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lol! What solution are u focusing on? You keep saying to just ignore her and keep carrying the guns.

huskerbb · Guru

Again, the letter does not even suggest that. She doesn't even threaten it. That's all in your head.

huskerbb · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lol! What solution are u focusing on? You keep saying to just ignore her and keep carrying the guns.

Wow. You do have trouble reading. I posted a solution in one of my first posts.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
YOU say this is only "one" thing.

But why do you get to decide what "one" thing is important or not?

Let's say they had a dog and the daughter didn't like dogs. She demands that they board it out during the holidays when she is there? Is that reasonable?
The LW gets to make the decision for her CHILD.
flan

There are a lot of things I'd rather my children were not exposed to, like rap music, boys with their pants hanging down to their knees, liberal idiocies - but I don't get to make choices for other people.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
YOU say this is only "one" thing.

But why do you get to decide what "one" thing is important or not?

Let's say they had a dog and the daughter didn't like dogs. She demands that they board it out during the holidays when she is there? Is that reasonable?
The LW gets to make the decision for her CHILD.
flan
There are a lot of things I'd rather my children were not exposed to, like rap music, boys with their pants hanging down to their knees, liberal idiocies - but I don't get to make choices for other people.

No, you don't get to make choices for other people. You get to make choices for your child. And, if you have some sense that this poses a risk to your child then it is your prerogative to not take them over to their house. ANd, i also presume that if you had people exposing your kids to things you didn't like or thought were wrong, you would have no problem removing your child from that situation.

However, if you are going to concealed carry, then why are you running around telling people you have your piece on you? That's kind of dumb. And, I think that if you are going to carry, that it should be on your person and not in your purse where someone could steal your purse or get into it if it is set down. Also, we expect that most adults will have some recognition of the need to child proof or have a safe home when a young toddler is around.

And, most grandparents understand that young mothers are anxious about a lot of things that they never gave a second thought about. My sister was adamant that my mom not use baby powder. My mom thought that seemed pretty dumb. Personally, i think it is pretty dumb too as you aren't dumping powder in the baby's face but whatever. I lightly powdered them at times. So, as grandparents who have been down the road of life, most of them will take a step back and realize that mom is just trying to do the best she can. I don't see what the big deal is about locking up your guns for an hour while they visit. But, if that is the hill they want to die on , then i guess that's the hill they want to die on and she will have to make her best judgment from there. She's uncomfortable. Wheter it is real or imagined, she is uncomfortable.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

A person who has a concealed carry permit has gone through the requirements for getting said permit. Who is the daughter to say they are unsafe with it? She just doesn't like guns - that doesn't make the parents unsafe or irresponsible with them.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
A person who has a concealed carry permit has gone through the requirements for getting said permit. Who is the daughter to say they are unsafe with it? She just doesn't like guns - that doesn't make the parents unsafe or irresponsible with them.

Requirements? There are no gun safety requirements to get a permit. You fill out a form, get a background check and that's it. There is nothing in that at all about commonsense and gun safety.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
A person who has a concealed carry permit has gone through the requirements for getting said permit. Who is the daughter to say they are unsafe with it? She just doesn't like guns - that doesn't make the parents unsafe or irresponsible with them.
Requirements? There are no gun safety requirements to get a permit. You fill out a form, get a background check and that's it. There is nothing in that at all about commonsense and gun safety.

There is a background check. But again - who is she to say they do not know gun safety?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

It's no different than having a dog. Most dogs are friendly and great with kids. However, some are not. And, i wouldn't leave my 2 yr old unsupervised around a strange dog. Otherwise responsible people have had gun accidents. Not sure why they need to treat this like some Holy Grail and they can't even put the gun away in their own home?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
A person who has a concealed carry permit has gone through the requirements for getting said permit. Who is the daughter to say they are unsafe with it? She just doesn't like guns - that doesn't make the parents unsafe or irresponsible with them.
Requirements? There are no gun safety requirements to get a permit. You fill out a form, get a background check and that's it. There is nothing in that at all about commonsense and gun safety.
There is a background check. But again - who is she to say they do not know gun safety?

Who are you to say that they do?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
A person who has a concealed carry permit has gone through the requirements for getting said permit. Who is the daughter to say they are unsafe with it? She just doesn't like guns - that doesn't make the parents unsafe or irresponsible with them.
Requirements? There are no gun safety requirements to get a permit. You fill out a form, get a background check and that's it. There is nothing in that at all about commonsense and gun safety.
There is a background check. But again - who is she to say they do not know gun safety?
Who are you to say that they do?

They obviously think they do and they are grown ups. That means their child doesn't get to tell them what to do. Her being "uncomfortable" doesn't mean they have to give in to her every demand and whim.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
A person who has a concealed carry permit has gone through the requirements for getting said permit. Who is the daughter to say they are unsafe with it? She just doesn't like guns - that doesn't make the parents unsafe or irresponsible with them.
Requirements? There are no gun safety requirements to get a permit. You fill out a form, get a background check and that's it. There is nothing in that at all about commonsense and gun safety.
There is a background check. But again - who is she to say they do not know gun safety?
Who are you to say that they do?
They obviously think they do and they are grown ups. That means their child doesn't get to tell them what to do. Her being "uncomfortable" doesn't mean they have to give in to her every demand and whim.

Well, we can go round and round. The can do whatever they want. And, she likewise can act on what they choose to do or not do. However, as the older adult, i would want my daughter to feel very comfortable and welcomed and I would have understanding of the anxieties of young mothers since i was once one myself. But, as i said, if that's your hill to die on, then so be it.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

If my child started in on blackmailing me in order to see my grandchild - I would take a huge step back and not get attached to that grandchild. And then the next letter to Dear Abby would be "Why doesn't my mother go out of her way to see her grandchild?" Because you, my dear, were a demanding wench who sabotaged the relationship by deciding to use the grandchild as a weapon.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

There is nowhere where there was "blackmail". She wants to visit them. But, it makes her hella uncomfortable. As loving grandparents, I would think they would understand that. So, sometimes you make compromises for people you love.
But, funny how now you are calling HER a "demanding wench or blackmailing". Uh huh.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
There is nowhere where there was "blackmail". She wants to visit them. But, it makes her hella uncomfortable. As loving grandparents, I would think they would understand that. So, sometimes you make compromises for people you love.
But, funny how now you are calling HER a "demanding wench or blackmailing". Uh huh.

She is the one making demands. The letter does not contain any examples whatsoever of them being careless or otherwise irresponsible. It's just her being uncomfortable with the idea. That's HER problem.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
There is nowhere where there was "blackmail". She wants to visit them. But, it makes her hella uncomfortable. As loving grandparents, I would think they would understand that. So, sometimes you make compromises for people you love.
But, funny how now you are calling HER a "demanding wench or blackmailing". Uh huh.
She is the one making demands. The letter does not contain any examples whatsoever of them being careless or otherwise irresponsible. It's just her being uncomfortable with the idea. That's HER problem.

She's uncomfortable. It doesn't matter why. She doesn't have to wait until there is accident to "justify" how she feels. That is how she feels be it right or wrong. So, they can choose to act like loving grandparents or not.