Tell me. Do you not think we should be trying to avoid killing innocent children?
Sure, although I don't really believe there are innocents in war. However, I'm not going to lose sleep if we take out a terrorist cell and there is collateral damage, even children. It's unavoidable.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Then I was right. You agree we should try to avoid killing children but you won't lose sleep over it. I guess as long as you're sleeping we don't need to try too hard.
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Then I was right. You agree we should try to avoid killing children but you won't lose sleep over it. I guess as long as you're sleeping we don't need to try too hard.
-- Edited by Tinydancer on Wednesday 16th of December 2015 05:57:11 PM
And while we are obsessed with trying, more of us will be killed. I guess our innocents arent as important as theirs...
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Then I was right. You agree we should try to avoid killing children but you won't lose sleep over it. I guess as long as you're sleeping we don't need to try too hard.
-- Edited by Tinydancer on Wednesday 16th of December 2015 05:57:11 PM
No, I was right. Such casualties are unavoidable.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
Then I was right. You agree we should try to avoid killing children but you won't lose sleep over it. I guess as long as you're sleeping we don't need to try too hard.
-- Edited by Tinydancer on Wednesday 16th of December 2015 05:57:11 PM
No, I was right. Such casualties are unavoidable.
Again I never said they weren't unavoidable. Only that we should try to avoid it. I'm done repeating myself so you can try to make yourself look superior somehow. Have fun.
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If elected, how much secret service would be needed for Trump's family? Would each ex-wife be covered?
Shoot, I might run into secret service. That'd be kinda cool actually.
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If elected, how much secret service would be needed for Trump's family? Would each ex-wife be covered?
Shoot, I might run into secret service. That'd be kinda cool actually.
The president, the vice president, (or other individuals next in order of succession to the Office of the President), the president-elect and vice president-elect
The immediate families of the above individuals
Former presidents, their spouses, except when the spouse re-marries
I still might. Can't remember if Marla has remarried.
She grew up about 5 miles from me. Her family still lives here.
We went to the same high school.
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Not all Germans were at fault. Most Germans lived in fear of their own government. Many risked their lives daily to hide and help Jews. The world is not black and white, people. Learn some history.
Show me a Muslim that helped save innocent Christians from the radicals.
So, lot me get this straight. When Obama promises something he can't deliver it's LYING. But when Trump does it it's just part of life? Double standard much?
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Not all Germans were at fault. Most Germans lived in fear of their own government. Many risked their lives daily to hide and help Jews. The world is not black and white, people. Learn some history.
Show me a Muslim that helped save innocent Christians from the radicals.
There have been a few. I think it was some Kurds who finally broke through the ISIS lines to save some of the Yadizi.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
I have never blamed Obama for not keeping his political promises. I blame him for usurping his power and throwing this country down the toilet.
When Trump says he is going to bomb the heck out of Isis, I don't interpret that to mean he is going to carpet bomb innocents. Whether he CAN take out ISIS remains to be seen, but I believe he has every intent to try. Hopefully he'll get the chance.
So, lot me get this straight. When Obama promises something he can't deliver it's LYING. But when Trump does it it's just part of life? Double standard much?
Do you seriously NOT understand the difference? If Trump goes into office and does nothing to stop ISIS, then yes, that will be a lie. But, if you are talking about what you intend to do and haven't yet been in the position to execute your ideas, that is not lying. Wow.
So, lot me get this straight. When Obama promises something he can't deliver it's LYING. But when Trump does it it's just part of life? Double standard much?
Do you seriously NOT understand the difference? If Trump goes into office and does nothing to stop ISIS, then yes, that will be a lie. But, if you are talking about what you intend to do and haven't yet been in the position to execute your ideas, that is not lying. Wow.
On the contrary - you can lie about what you will do if you know that it not what you will do. If I tell you I'm coming to your house tomorrow and KNOW I'm not going to - that is a lie.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
So, lot me get this straight. When Obama promises something he can't deliver it's LYING. But when Trump does it it's just part of life? Double standard much?
Do you seriously NOT understand the difference? If Trump goes into office and does nothing to stop ISIS, then yes, that will be a lie. But, if you are talking about what you intend to do and haven't yet been in the position to execute your ideas, that is not lying. Wow.
On the contrary - you can lie about what you will do if you know that it not what you will do. If I tell you I'm coming to your house tomorrow and KNOW I'm not going to - that is a lie.
Yes, but it isn't a lie until tomorrw is it? It isn't tomorrow until you are in the position to carry out the action.
So, lot me get this straight. When Obama promises something he can't deliver it's LYING. But when Trump does it it's just part of life? Double standard much?
Do you seriously NOT understand the difference? If Trump goes into office and does nothing to stop ISIS, then yes, that will be a lie. But, if you are talking about what you intend to do and haven't yet been in the position to execute your ideas, that is not lying. Wow.
On the contrary - you can lie about what you will do if you know that it not what you will do. If I tell you I'm coming to your house tomorrow and KNOW I'm not going to - that is a lie.
Yes, but it isn't a lie until tomorrw is it? It isn't tomorrow until you are in the position to carry out the action.
Lie is about your intent. If you change your mind - that was not a lie. A LIE is done when you do it, even if you change to make it true. INTENT.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
It's like telling my kids we'll go to the movie this weekend, and then I get sick and can't take them. I did not LIE - I fully intended to take them when I said it.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
So, lot me get this straight. When Obama promises something he can't deliver it's LYING. But when Trump does it it's just part of life? Double standard much?
Do you seriously NOT understand the difference? If Trump goes into office and does nothing to stop ISIS, then yes, that will be a lie. But, if you are talking about what you intend to do and haven't yet been in the position to execute your ideas, that is not lying. Wow.
On the contrary - you can lie about what you will do if you know that it not what you will do. If I tell you I'm coming to your house tomorrow and KNOW I'm not going to - that is a lie.
Yes, but it isn't a lie until tomorrw is it? It isn't tomorrow until you are in the position to carry out the action.
Lie is about your intent. If you change your mind - that was not a lie. A LIE is done when you do it, even if you change to make it true. INTENT.
You don't know someone's intent until they are in the position to carry out the action or promise.
So, lot me get this straight. When Obama promises something he can't deliver it's LYING. But when Trump does it it's just part of life? Double standard much?
Do you seriously NOT understand the difference? If Trump goes into office and does nothing to stop ISIS, then yes, that will be a lie. But, if you are talking about what you intend to do and haven't yet been in the position to execute your ideas, that is not lying. Wow.
On the contrary - you can lie about what you will do if you know that it not what you will do. If I tell you I'm coming to your house tomorrow and KNOW I'm not going to - that is a lie.
Yes, but it isn't a lie until tomorrw is it? It isn't tomorrow until you are in the position to carry out the action.
Lie is about your intent. If you change your mind - that was not a lie. A LIE is done when you do it, even if you change to make it true. INTENT.
You don't know someone's intent until they are in the position to carry out the action or promise.
But they do.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
So, lot me get this straight. When Obama promises something he can't deliver it's LYING. But when Trump does it it's just part of life? Double standard much?
Do you seriously NOT understand the difference? If Trump goes into office and does nothing to stop ISIS, then yes, that will be a lie. But, if you are talking about what you intend to do and haven't yet been in the position to execute your ideas, that is not lying. Wow.
On the contrary - you can lie about what you will do if you know that it not what you will do. If I tell you I'm coming to your house tomorrow and KNOW I'm not going to - that is a lie.
Yes, but it isn't a lie until tomorrw is it? It isn't tomorrow until you are in the position to carry out the action.
Lie is about your intent. If you change your mind - that was not a lie. A LIE is done when you do it, even if you change to make it true. INTENT.
You don't know someone's intent until they are in the position to carry out the action or promise.
Lying is lying whether someone knows you are lying or not.
OK? You don't know what is in another person's heart whether you think you do or not.
You can get a pretty good idea based on their history and actions. Character actually DOES matter, you know.
What is it you are trying to say exactly? That you don't like Trump? Um, i think you really should focus on the person in the White House who has repeatedly LIED to America and continues to lie and who is putting all of us at risk and our families and way of life at risk.
As for history, Rubio has a very poor record when it comes to a tough stance on ILLEGAL immigration.
Lying is lying whether someone knows you are lying or not.
OK? You don't know what is in another person's heart whether you think you do or not.
You can get a pretty good idea based on their history and actions. Character actually DOES matter, you know.
What is it you are trying to say exactly? That you don't like Trump? Um, i think you really should focus on the person in the White House who has repeatedly LIED to America and continues to lie and who is putting all of us at risk and our families and way of life at risk.
As for history, Rubio has a very poor record when it comes to a tough stance on ILLEGAL immigration.
What the hell? Why does questioning the character of one mean I don't question the character of another? Your argument is stupid.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
What the hell what? You are trying to make something out as a "lie" when in fact you don't know if it is a lie or not. So, if you don't believe him you don't believe him. Fine and dandy.
What the hell what? You are trying to make something out as a "lie" when in fact you don't know if it is a lie or not. So, if you don't believe him you don't believe him. Fine and dandy.
What does questioning the character of the current candidates have to do with who is in there now? Obama is the President, nothing I can do about it, and I don't have to discuss him for my views on the new candidates to be valid. It is a completely ridiculous diversion off the argument.
And since you are not paying attention - I did not say they lied. I said what they claimed they would do, and FNW said they were just "puffing" and NJN said that is lying. Which to say something you absolutely do not mean IS lying. You coming in and trying to argue what is a lie and what isn't without understanding the context makes your argument all over the place.
To be clear - saying something you don't mean just because it is what people want to hear is deception and the act of con-men. I do not want a lowlife con-man in the White House. So, either they meant what they said and they plan to callously kill innocents against our own treaty and international law in their pursuit of terrorists, or they are deceiving the public in order to try and get elected. Either way - not good men.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.