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Family under fire for their 'sexist' Christmas photo in which all the women are gagged while the dad holds a 'Peace on Earth' sign

  • Hannah Hawkes Photography, a studio based in Rosepine, Louisiana, shared the controversial image on Facebook 
  • The picture sees a mother and her two daughters with their arms bound and their mouths covered with green tape
  • Meanwhile, the patriarch holds up a sign that says 'Peace on Earth' and his young son gives the camera a thumbs up
  • The disturbing image was removed from Facebook after thousands commented on how it perpetuates violence against women
  • However, the female photographer maintained that the image was the family's request and does not promote abuse  

By ERICA TEMPESTA FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 12:56 EST, 16 December 2015 | UPDATED: 13:36 EST, 16 December 2015

 

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A female photographer is facing backlash for snapping a 'sexist' holiday picture of a mother and her two daughters posing with their mouths covered with neon green tape and their hands bound by Christmas lights, while the patriarch of the family holds a sign that says 'Peace on Earth' as his son gives the camera a thumbs up.

Hannah Hawkes Photography, a studio based in Rosepine, Louisiana, is responsible for the controversial image that sees the women in the family tied up at what appears to be a Christmas tree farm, while the men gloat behind them. Thousands of critics argued that the photo, which was captioned 'Finally, Peach on Earth', perpetuates 'violence against women' and promotes the idea that women should be seen and not heard, and Facebook removed the image from the company's page.

While the family featured in the image has not been identified - and is referred to simply as 'the Johnsons', the female photographer who helped them create their vision took to the Hannah Hawkes Photography Facebook page on Monday to defend her image, which she says was requested by the family, while insisting it was meant to be a 'comical Christmas photo'.

Sparking outrage: Thousands of people criticized Hannah Hawkes Photography for taking this image which features the female members of a family tied up with their mouths covered in neon green tape 
 
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Sparking outrage: Thousands of people criticized Hannah Hawkes Photography for taking this image which features the female members of a family tied up with their mouths covered in neon green tape 

'After being silent, now isn't that ironic, I would like to speak! I have been called every name in the book, and have received some very hateful and vulgar comments and messages. 

'I would like to say that as a female I do NOT and have never promoted violence to women!' she wrote. I do not support abuse, or the degradation of women. 

'My controversial photo was taken by request by the family, and was in no way meant to promote abuse. This photo was taken with humor in mind, and was meant as a comical Christmas photo. I personally know this family, and have known them for many years. 

'They are not abusive to their children in any shape or form. Also, I would like to add that no one was harmed during the process! So everyone have a very MERRY CHRISTMAS and MAY GOD BLESS you and yours!'

Nearly 2,000 Facebook users commented on the post, and while some found it humorous and urged critics to 'lighten up', a majority of people were appalled by the imagery. 

Defending her actions: The female photographer who snapped the controversial photo maintained that it was 'meant to be a comical Christmas photo' and does not 'support abuse' of women
 
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Defending her actions: The female photographer who snapped the controversial photo maintained that it was 'meant to be a comical Christmas photo' and does not 'support abuse' of women

Unforgivable: Despite the photographer's explanation, many people maintained that the image is sexist and promotes the abuse of women 
 
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Unforgivable: Despite the photographer's explanation, many people maintained that the image is sexist and promotes the abuse of women 

'There is absolutely NOTHING comical about having little girls tied up,' Ashtin Newman wrote. 'You used poor judgement and it's incredibly disgusting that you're still standing by this disturbing picture.'

Meanwhile, Johnny Donaldson took a moment to argue with the photographer's logic.

'You can still be against it, but you are still, even if it is beyond your intention, promoting abuse,' he explained. 'And you may know that family but that doesn't make them good people - or their photo concept anything less than an endorsement of female assault and subjugation.' 

And Katrina Carpenter noted: 'It wasn't funny and it should have never been taken. Teaching littler girls that they should sit down and shut up [while] teaching little boys that it's okay to silene the women in their life is messed up. Being part of that is messed up.' 

However, despite the controversy, some people were fans of the photo. Amber Phillips Ashworth commented: 'I love this picture... I think it is a very cute idea for a funny Christmas picture...'

Professional opinion: Facebook user and photographer Lindsay Klugh noted that she wouldn't have 'complied with this request to show the mother and girls silenced with duct tape'
 
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Professional opinion: Facebook user and photographer Lindsay Klugh noted that she wouldn't have 'complied with this request to show the mother and girls silenced with duct tape'

Not acceptable: Kat Moore explained that the photo perpetuates 'old stereotypes of women talking to much'
 
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Not acceptable: Kat Moore explained that the photo perpetuates 'old stereotypes of women talking to much'

Difference of opinion: And while some commenters found the photo amusing, Erynn Ahern argued 'not sensible person' would make 'light of abuse' 
 
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Difference of opinion: And while some commenters found the photo amusing, Erynn Ahern argued 'not sensible person' would make 'light of abuse' 

On Sunday, Hannah Hawkes posted a more traditional image of the parents and their three children, which she captioned: 'Johnson Family Photos'. 

But Ruth M. Glenn, Executive Director of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, maintained that the image is 'not laughing matter'. 

'Unfortunately, we live in a culture that still perpetrates violence against women as evidenced by this photo,' she told the Daily Dot. 'What is equally as disturbing as the duct taping of the woman and girls’ mouths and the binding of their hands is the image of the young boy behind them giving a "thumbs up".

'It is obvious, he is already influenced. Though we are glad the photo has been removed, that people responded so strongly against it, and the photographer asserted that the photo was taken in jest, it is no laughing matter. 

'Violence against women is commonplace and perpetuated by apathy and ignorance, as exemplified by this photo. Once again, it gives us a glimpse into the ongoing struggle to change how our culture views and treats women and girls.'



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Sexist or not, it's weird. I'm so tired of weird.

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It's in poor taste. There is something disturbing about binding and gagging your wife and daughters, even as a joke.

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I just thought it was a statement. That women and girls all over the world are being made slaves.

At least, I hope that was the intention...if not, then shame on them...

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

It's in poor taste. There is something disturbing about binding and gagging your wife and daughters, even as a joke.

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I just thought it was a statement. That women and girls all over the world are being made slaves.

At least, I hope that was the intention...if not, then shame on them...

 They were trying to be cute and funny. Big Fail.



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I don't think they are the Spawn of Satan for doing this pic. It's just rude. That's all.

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My gay cousin used a photo of himself with duct tape across his mouth as his FB profile pic. He's a gay rights activist so my guess is he was trying to make a point, much like this family.

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I just thought it was a statement. That women and girls all over the world are being made slaves.

At least, I hope that was the intention...if not, then shame on them...

 I thought the statement was women are loud and anoyng.



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I bet the family got a huge laugh out of it.



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cadiver wrote:
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I just thought it was a statement. That women and girls all over the world are being made slaves.

At least, I hope that was the intention...if not, then shame on them...

 I thought the statement was women are loud and anoyng.

 That was my take too.

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I bet the family got a huge laugh out of it.

 Only the MEN...

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I bet the family got a huge laugh out of it.

 Only the MEN...

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 The cute little girl in front of dad looks like she is smiling behind her tape.  I'm sure the family had fun with it.  If that is what they want for their family Christmas card I'm fine with it.  It is probably a family joke that with three women in the house there is no peace & quiet.  My brother has two girls & says it.  Even the dog & cat are female.



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I bet the family got a huge laugh out of it.

 Only the MEN...

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 The cute little girl in front of dad looks like she is smiling behind her tape.  I'm sure the family had fun with it.  If that is what they want for their family Christmas card I'm fine with it.  It is probably a family joke that with three women in the house there is no peace & quiet.  My brother has two girls & says it.  Even the dog & cat are female.

 yeah.  Lighten the fvck up, people.  Not everything is some huge statement.  



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I bet the family got a huge laugh out of it.

 Only the MEN...

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 The cute little girl in front of dad looks like she is smiling behind her tape.  I'm sure the family had fun with it.  If that is what they want for their family Christmas card I'm fine with it.  It is probably a family joke that with three women in the house there is no peace & quiet.  My brother has two girls & says it.  Even the dog & cat are female.

 yeah.  Lighten the fvck up, people.  Not everything is some huge statement.  

 Some of it is just fvcking stupid and insulting.



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I bet the family got a huge laugh out of it.

 Only the MEN...

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 The cute little girl in front of dad looks like she is smiling behind her tape.  I'm sure the family had fun with it.  If that is what they want for their family Christmas card I'm fine with it.  It is probably a family joke that with three women in the house there is no peace & quiet.  My brother has two girls & says it.  Even the dog & cat are female.

 yeah.  Lighten the fvck up, people.  Not everything is some huge statement.  

 Some of it is just fvcking stupid and insulting.

 Why is some random family's Christmas card insulting?  They are wrapped in Christmas lights not handcuffs or zip ties.  I'm sure it is a family joke & the people who know them & received the card laughed.



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It's seems funny to them but no way in hell would you get me to go along with that. It looks demeaning and I have never thought that was funny.

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As a woman - it is insulting. Had it been all the kids? Funny. Just the girls? Sexist.

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Yeah, the little boy giving a thumbs up while his mom is bound and gagged is just creepy.

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You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

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Read the article, folks. The family requested this pose.

Husker is right, men don't give a cr@p about pictures.

Much ado about nothing, IMHO.

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Yeah, the little boy giving a thumbs up while his mom is bound and gagged is just creepy.

 I know, right?

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Well what ever reason they chose this pose they had received a lot of attention.

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You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

 I agree. Havent yet met a man that enjoys posing for Christmas cards...



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I like the photo. I think it's funny. It's pretty well-known that women talk more than men. I took it as a poke at that.

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I like the photo. I think it's funny. It's pretty well-known that women talk more than men. I took it as a poke at that.

Yeah.  exactly.  Anyone who thinks it is somehow sexual in nature, or whatever--well, that says a lot more about them than the family in the picture.  



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You don't know the difference between sexist and sexual?

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How about the difference between irrational and rational?

This picture is not the big deal a lot of people want to make it out to be. As was pointed out, it was the Mom's idea. If there's any sexism involved she is the sexist.

Dad was probably thinking "Can we get this over with? There's a football game I'd rather be watching."

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You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

 I agree. Havent yet met a man that enjoys posing for Christmas cards...

 That is an assumption.  There are plenty of control freak husbands out there that dictate the smallest of things.



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You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

 I agree. Havent yet met a man that enjoys posing for Christmas cards...

 That is an assumption.  There are plenty of control freak husbands out there that dictate the smallest of things.

So you get to make assumptions but no one else does?  You are assuming it's dad's idea.  I would bet the farm it's not and it's overwhelmingly likely I'm right.   



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You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

 I agree. Havent yet met a man that enjoys posing for Christmas cards...

 That is an assumption.  There are plenty of control freak husbands out there that dictate the smallest of things.

So you get to make assumptions but no one else does?  You are assuming it's dad's idea.  I would bet the farm it's not and it's overwhelmingly likely I'm right.   

 I disagree.  No self-respecting woman would have that stupid of an idea.



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You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

 I agree. Havent yet met a man that enjoys posing for Christmas cards...

 That is an assumption.  There are plenty of control freak husbands out there that dictate the smallest of things.

So you get to make assumptions but no one else does?  You are assuming it's dad's idea.  I would bet the farm it's not and it's overwhelmingly likely I'm right.   

 I disagree.  No self-respecting woman would have that stupid of an idea.

 So now you get to decide what everyone else should or should not do?



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Lawyerlady wrote:
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You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

 I agree. Havent yet met a man that enjoys posing for Christmas cards...

 That is an assumption.  There are plenty of control freak husbands out there that dictate the smallest of things.

So you get to make assumptions but no one else does?  You are assuming it's dad's idea.  I would bet the farm it's not and it's overwhelmingly likely I'm right.   

 I disagree.  No self-respecting woman would have that stupid of an idea.

Women also like to play the game of "one-upmanship". Yeah, I can see a woman trying to be more creative then her friends or family with "their" family Christmas card photo. Competition is for the most memorable photo.

I think there is a web site of "stupid family Christmas cards" some place. It is hilarious. 



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You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

 I agree. Havent yet met a man that enjoys posing for Christmas cards...

 That is an assumption.  There are plenty of control freak husbands out there that dictate the smallest of things.

So you get to make assumptions but no one else does?  You are assuming it's dad's idea.  I would bet the farm it's not and it's overwhelmingly likely I'm right.   

 I disagree.  No self-respecting woman would have that stupid of an idea.

 So now you get to decide what everyone else should or should not do?

 Yes, Husker - I get to decide everything in the world, just like you do.  I get to have an opinion, just like you do.  I get to assume, just like you do.  And I get to say this was stupid and sexist.

What is more - I am a woman, which you are not, so if my opinion is that it is sexist towards women, it actually matters a tad bit more than some the opinion of some mysoginist jerk who thinks it is funny to duct tape the mouth of his wife and daughters.



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While I have no doubt a house full of females is noisy, a house full of males is pretty loud, too.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
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Lawyerlady wrote:
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Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:

You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

 I agree. Havent yet met a man that enjoys posing for Christmas cards...

 That is an assumption.  There are plenty of control freak husbands out there that dictate the smallest of things.

So you get to make assumptions but no one else does?  You are assuming it's dad's idea.  I would bet the farm it's not and it's overwhelmingly likely I'm right.   

 I disagree.  No self-respecting woman would have that stupid of an idea.

 So now you get to decide what everyone else should or should not do?

 Yes, Husker - I get to decide everything in the world, just like you do.  I get to have an opinion, just like you do.  I get to assume, just like you do.  And I get to say this was stupid and sexist.

What is more - I am a woman, which you are not, so if my opinion is that it is sexist towards women, it actually matters a tad bit more than some the opinion of some mysoginist jerk who thinks it is funny to duct tape the mouth of his wife and daughters.

 Other women on here have disagreed with you. does that mean they are somehow lesser women?  

 

 



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Lawyerlady wrote:
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Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:

You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

 I agree. Havent yet met a man that enjoys posing for Christmas cards...

 That is an assumption.  There are plenty of control freak husbands out there that dictate the smallest of things.

So you get to make assumptions but no one else does?  You are assuming it's dad's idea.  I would bet the farm it's not and it's overwhelmingly likely I'm right.   

 I disagree.  No self-respecting woman would have that stupid of an idea.

 So now you get to decide what everyone else should or should not do?

 Yes, Husker - I get to decide everything in the world, just like you do.  I get to have an opinion, just like you do.  I get to assume, just like you do.  And I get to say this was stupid and sexist.

What is more - I am a woman, which you are not, so if my opinion is that it is sexist towards women, it actually matters a tad bit more than some the opinion of some mysoginist jerk who thinks it is funny to duct tape the mouth of his wife and daughters.

 Other women on here have disagreed with you. does that mean they are somehow lesser women?  

 

 

 Other people do not get to decide what I find sexist or offensive, regardless of their gender.  Other people also do not have to agree with me, but nor do I have to agree with them or temper my opinion because they do not agree with me. 



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You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

 I agree. Havent yet met a man that enjoys posing for Christmas cards...

 That is an assumption.  There are plenty of control freak husbands out there that dictate the smallest of things.

So you get to make assumptions but no one else does?  You are assuming it's dad's idea.  I would bet the farm it's not and it's overwhelmingly likely I'm right.   

 I disagree.  No self-respecting woman would have that stupid of an idea.

 So now you get to decide what everyone else should or should not do?

 Yes, Husker - I get to decide everything in the world, just like you do.  I get to have an opinion, just like you do.  I get to assume, just like you do.  And I get to say this was stupid and sexist.

What is more - I am a woman, which you are not, so if my opinion is that it is sexist towards women, it actually matters a tad bit more than some the opinion of some mysoginist jerk who thinks it is funny to duct tape the mouth of his wife and daughters.

 Other women on here have disagreed with you. does that mean they are somehow lesser women?  

 

 

 Other people do not get to decide what I find sexist or offensive, regardless of their gender.  Other people also do not have to agree with me, but nor do I have to agree with them or temper my opinion because they do not agree with me. 

But you are spouting off that my opinion can't somehow be valid due to my gender--even if it agrees with some of those of the other gender.  

Who is sexist now? 

 



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huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:

You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

 I agree. Havent yet met a man that enjoys posing for Christmas cards...

 That is an assumption.  There are plenty of control freak husbands out there that dictate the smallest of things.

So you get to make assumptions but no one else does?  You are assuming it's dad's idea.  I would bet the farm it's not and it's overwhelmingly likely I'm right.   

 I disagree.  No self-respecting woman would have that stupid of an idea.

 So now you get to decide what everyone else should or should not do?

 Yes, Husker - I get to decide everything in the world, just like you do.  I get to have an opinion, just like you do.  I get to assume, just like you do.  And I get to say this was stupid and sexist.

What is more - I am a woman, which you are not, so if my opinion is that it is sexist towards women, it actually matters a tad bit more than some the opinion of some mysoginist jerk who thinks it is funny to duct tape the mouth of his wife and daughters.

 Other women on here have disagreed with you. does that mean they are somehow lesser women?  

 

 

 Other people do not get to decide what I find sexist or offensive, regardless of their gender.  Other people also do not have to agree with me, but nor do I have to agree with them or temper my opinion because they do not agree with me. 

But you are spouting off that my opinion can't somehow be valid due to my gender--even if it agrees with some of those of the other gender.  

Who is sexist now? 

 

 I said it is less valid in regard to women and sexism.  It would be more valid in regard to men and sexism.  You are a man, not a woman - that is a fact, not an opinion.  And you do not ever get to know what it really means to be a woman. FACT.



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Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:

You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

 I agree. Havent yet met a man that enjoys posing for Christmas cards...

 That is an assumption.  There are plenty of control freak husbands out there that dictate the smallest of things.

So you get to make assumptions but no one else does?  You are assuming it's dad's idea.  I would bet the farm it's not and it's overwhelmingly likely I'm right.   

 I disagree.  No self-respecting woman would have that stupid of an idea.

 So now you get to decide what everyone else should or should not do?

 Yes, Husker - I get to decide everything in the world, just like you do.  I get to have an opinion, just like you do.  I get to assume, just like you do.  And I get to say this was stupid and sexist.

What is more - I am a woman, which you are not, so if my opinion is that it is sexist towards women, it actually matters a tad bit more than some the opinion of some mysoginist jerk who thinks it is funny to duct tape the mouth of his wife and daughters.

 Other women on here have disagreed with you. does that mean they are somehow lesser women?  

 

 

 Other people do not get to decide what I find sexist or offensive, regardless of their gender.  Other people also do not have to agree with me, but nor do I have to agree with them or temper my opinion because they do not agree with me. 

But you are spouting off that my opinion can't somehow be valid due to my gender--even if it agrees with some of those of the other gender.  

Who is sexist now? 

 

 I said it is less valid in regard to women and sexism.  It would be more valid in regard to men and sexism.  You are a man, not a woman - that is a fact, not an opinion.  And you do not ever get to know what it really means to be a woman. FACT.

And so then women who disagree with you must then somehow have a less valid opinion since the opinion of at least some of them pretty much matches mine, exactly.  



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huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:

You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

 I agree. Havent yet met a man that enjoys posing for Christmas cards...

 That is an assumption.  There are plenty of control freak husbands out there that dictate the smallest of things.

So you get to make assumptions but no one else does?  You are assuming it's dad's idea.  I would bet the farm it's not and it's overwhelmingly likely I'm right.   

 I disagree.  No self-respecting woman would have that stupid of an idea.

 So now you get to decide what everyone else should or should not do?

 Yes, Husker - I get to decide everything in the world, just like you do.  I get to have an opinion, just like you do.  I get to assume, just like you do.  And I get to say this was stupid and sexist.

What is more - I am a woman, which you are not, so if my opinion is that it is sexist towards women, it actually matters a tad bit more than some the opinion of some mysoginist jerk who thinks it is funny to duct tape the mouth of his wife and daughters.

 Other women on here have disagreed with you. does that mean they are somehow lesser women?  

 

 

 Other people do not get to decide what I find sexist or offensive, regardless of their gender.  Other people also do not have to agree with me, but nor do I have to agree with them or temper my opinion because they do not agree with me. 

But you are spouting off that my opinion can't somehow be valid due to my gender--even if it agrees with some of those of the other gender.  

Who is sexist now? 

 

 I said it is less valid in regard to women and sexism.  It would be more valid in regard to men and sexism.  You are a man, not a woman - that is a fact, not an opinion.  And you do not ever get to know what it really means to be a woman. FACT.

And so then women who disagree with you must then somehow have a less valid opinion since the opinion of at least some of them pretty much matches mine, exactly.  

 The MAJORITY of the women on this thread do not agree with you.  And by the responses on the internet - the majority of those women don't agree, either.



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Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
huskerbb wrote:

You assume this was all dads idea. I can guarantee it was moms. Dads idea would be to forget Christmas cards altogether.

Again, it doesn't affect any of you in the slightest. Lighten up.

 I agree. Havent yet met a man that enjoys posing for Christmas cards...

 That is an assumption.  There are plenty of control freak husbands out there that dictate the smallest of things.

So you get to make assumptions but no one else does?  You are assuming it's dad's idea.  I would bet the farm it's not and it's overwhelmingly likely I'm right.   

 I disagree.  No self-respecting woman would have that stupid of an idea.

 So now you get to decide what everyone else should or should not do?

 Yes, Husker - I get to decide everything in the world, just like you do.  I get to have an opinion, just like you do.  I get to assume, just like you do.  And I get to say this was stupid and sexist.

What is more - I am a woman, which you are not, so if my opinion is that it is sexist towards women, it actually matters a tad bit more than some the opinion of some mysoginist jerk who thinks it is funny to duct tape the mouth of his wife and daughters.

 Other women on here have disagreed with you. does that mean they are somehow lesser women?  

 

 

 Other people do not get to decide what I find sexist or offensive, regardless of their gender.  Other people also do not have to agree with me, but nor do I have to agree with them or temper my opinion because they do not agree with me. 

But you are spouting off that my opinion can't somehow be valid due to my gender--even if it agrees with some of those of the other gender.  

Who is sexist now? 

 

 I said it is less valid in regard to women and sexism.  It would be more valid in regard to men and sexism.  You are a man, not a woman - that is a fact, not an opinion.  And you do not ever get to know what it really means to be a woman. FACT.

And so then women who disagree with you must then somehow have a less valid opinion since the opinion of at least some of them pretty much matches mine, exactly.  

 The MAJORITY of the women on this thread do not agree with you.  And by the responses on the internet - the majority of those women don't agree, either.

Who cares about the "majority".  I never said "majority". 

You are calling other women somehow "less" because they don't happen to agree with you.  



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No, I didn't. But keep trying to say I said something I didn't. The only person I judged is the one in the picture - if it was truly her idea.

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Yes, you did exactly that.

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No, I didn't. But keep trying to say I said something I didn't. The only person I judged is the one in the picture - if it was truly her idea.

 He did the same thing to me and denied it on the other thread. That's what he does when he has no really argument. He makes one up.



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Quote trees = annoying.

And on THIS thread, husker, Dear, you're wrong.

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I'll tell you again. When you argue with husker you have to quote because he tries to put words in your mouth. And do you always kiss up to him like that? That's sooooo sweet. You don't just defend him you kiss up too. Good job!

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WHY are you here?

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Why are you?

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