He needs to be in jail.

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Affluenza? Why is that in the title? Did they mean affluent?

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That's what the defense called his so called disorder.

Too rich, no discipline at home.

That caused him to drink and drive and kill four people. 

Affluenza should be a crime in and of itself.

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Affluenza should be a crime in and of itself.

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Oh your kids have it, too.  Not to this degree--but they take for granted things like living in a nice house, being able to go to school everyday, not having to worry about where their next meal comes from, having some nice toys and stuff to play with.   

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 Sigh.  This is true.  We struggle with trying to get this point across all the time.

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huskerbb wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Affluenza should be a crime in and of itself.

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Oh your kids have it, too.  Not to this degree--but they take for granted things like living in a nice house, being able to go to school everyday, not having to worry about where their next meal comes from, having some nice toys and stuff to play with.   

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 Sigh.  This is true.  We struggle with trying to get this point across all the time.

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Don't get me wrong.  I'm not just picking on you.  My kids have it, too.  I think most kids of the middle class do to some degree. 

How many high school kids have the latest phone?  A decent car to drive paid for by their parents? 

A LOT of them.  

huskerbb wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Affluenza should be a crime in and of itself.

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Oh your kids have it, too.  Not to this degree--but they take for granted things like living in a nice house, being able to go to school everyday, not having to worry about where their next meal comes from, having some nice toys and stuff to play with.   

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 Sigh.  This is true.  We struggle with trying to get this point across all the time.

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Don't get me wrong.  I'm not just picking on you.  My kids have it, too.  I think most kids of the middle class do to some degree. 

How many high school kids have the latest phone?  A decent car to drive paid for by their parents? 

A LOT of them.  

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 Ugh, my nieces & nephews.  Brutal.  Then the whining for more.  Really?  Get a job.

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Lindley wrote:

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This kid has most likely never been told no nor taught respect or right from wrong. His mother didn't even stop him from breaking his probation nor his father either. She will enable him till the end.

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 This is the difference.  If my child committed crimes and killed people, I would not be helping her escape the law.

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 Yep, we may have spoiled  our kids a little  bit  but we taught them manners and to be good  citizens. If his parents  truly  loved him and cared about him he wouldn't  be where he is today.

Lindley wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Lindley wrote:

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This kid has most likely never been told no nor taught respect or right from wrong. His mother didn't even stop him from breaking his probation nor his father either. She will enable him till the end.

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 This is the difference.  If my child committed crimes and killed people, I would not be helping her escape the law.

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 Yep, we may have spoiled  our kids a little  bit  but we taught them manners and to be good  citizens. If his parents  truly  loved him and cared about him he wouldn't  be where he is today.

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 Exactly.

flan

One of the guys that was killed was my brother's best friend. He was very happily married and they had an infant daughter and two other small girls.

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One of the guys that was killed was my brother's best friend. He was very happily married and they had an infant daughter and two other small girls.

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 That is so sad. Those little  girls  are going to grow  up without  a father  because  of this kid. He obviously  hasn't  felt remorse  since he hasn't  changed his actions. I hope they get caught  and deported  back to the u.s. and I hope the mom goes to jail too.

My grandparents told me that their philosophy was to give their kids WHAT they wanted, but not ALL they wanted. So if you asked for something reasonable, you would probably get it. But they thought it was good for the kids to always have something they did not get that they wanted, or something that they knew was too much. A child should never believe they will get everything they want.

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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One of the guys that was killed was my brother's best friend. He was very happily married and they had an infant daughter and two other small girls.

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 That is so sad. Those little  girls  are going to grow  up without  a father  because  of this kid. He obviously  hasn't  felt remorse  since he hasn't  changed his actions. I hope they get caught  and deported  back to the u.s. and I hope the mom goes to jail too.

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 The girls were small.  I think the oldest was six.  I doubt they'll have too many memories of their dad.  It's very sad.

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This kid has most likely never been told no nor taught respect or right from wrong. His mother didn't even stop him from breaking his probation nor his father either. She will enable him till the end.

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 This is the difference.  If my child committed crimes and killed people, I would not be helping her escape the law.

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I wouldn't, either--but that doesn't mean my kids or most middle class kids don't have at least a mild case of affluenza.  

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Lindley wrote:

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This kid has most likely never been told no nor taught respect or right from wrong. His mother didn't even stop him from breaking his probation nor his father either. She will enable him till the end.

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 This is the difference.  If my child committed crimes and killed people, I would not be helping her escape the law.

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I wouldn't, either--but that doesn't mean my kids or most middle class kids don't have at least a mild case of affluenza.  

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 Being a tad bit spoiled is a whole hell of a lot different than being morally bankrupt and not caring that you killed people.

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Sure--that's why I said "mild" case.   

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This kid and his mother are going to be hunted down like dogs.

I hope they both do prison time. Jacka$$'s.

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I agree.  The parents are just as guilty as he is.  

Just imagine being a victim of this crime and watching this play out on the news. Imagine their rage.

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FNW wrote:

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Sadly, I knew one or two of these affluent kids growing up. I steered clear.

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 I did too.  But they did throw the best parties because there were no rules and parents supplied everything and so I partook.  I wasn't a close friend but was part of the crowd.  Luckily I grew up.

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 I knew them too, and so did my kids. Everyone knows one. In my experience, they are often some of the most unhappy kids you will meet. 

I saw that this morning, FWM. Thanks for the update.

flan

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I hope the mother goes to jail as well. What a entitled biotch.

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 She HAS to be held accountable for her actions!

flan

There is no law against being a crappy parent other than neglect/abuse. She can be jailed for helping a fugitive, but except for that last act, not for how she raised him.

We are also making judgment calls. MANY kids have good parents but turn out to be bad eggs. We can't criminalize parents just because we think they were crappy parents.

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There is no law against being a crappy parent other than neglect/abuse. She can be jailed for helping a fugitive, but except for that last act, not for how she raised him.

We are also making judgment calls. MANY kids have good parents but turn out to be bad eggs. We can't criminalize parents just because we think they were crappy parents.

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From the latest article:

 Tonya Couch is expected to be arrested and face a charge of hindering an apprehension, a third-degree felony punishable by 2-10 years in prison.

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Fort Worth Mom wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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There is no law against being a crappy parent other than neglect/abuse. She can be jailed for helping a fugitive, but except for that last act, not for how she raised him.

We are also making judgment calls. MANY kids have good parents but turn out to be bad eggs. We can't criminalize parents just because we think they were crappy parents.

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From the latest article:

 Tonya Couch is expected to be arrested and face a charge of hindering an apprehension, a third-degree felony punishable by 2-10 years in prison.

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 yeah.  Like I said, she can be jailed for the act of aiding a fugitive or whatever, but not for being a crappy parent.

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Roger that.

It's kind of ironic, that she could very well end up with more prison time than her son will.

 

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Fort Worth Mom wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Fort Worth Mom wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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There is no law against being a crappy parent other than neglect/abuse. She can be jailed for helping a fugitive, but except for that last act, not for how she raised him.

We are also making judgment calls. MANY kids have good parents but turn out to be bad eggs. We can't criminalize parents just because we think they were crappy parents.

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From the latest article:

 Tonya Couch is expected to be arrested and face a charge of hindering an apprehension, a third-degree felony punishable by 2-10 years in prison.

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 yeah.  Like I said, she can be jailed for the act of aiding a fugitive or whatever, but not for being a crappy parent.

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Roger that.

It's kind of ironic, that she could very well end up with more prison time than her son will.

 

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 I can't belive a parole violation of this nature gets off so easy.

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Believe me, husker, a lot of folks in Fort Worth are mad as hell about the way this has all gone down.

A lot of the outrage, is for the judge, who gave this "nothing" sentence. 

Lindley wrote:

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There is no law against being a crappy parent other than neglect/abuse. She can be jailed for helping a fugitive, but except for that last act, not for how she raised him.

We are also making judgment calls. MANY kids have good parents but turn out to be bad eggs. We can't criminalize parents just because we think they were crappy parents.

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 I know that but she could go to jail for helping a fugitive. 

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