TOTALLY GEEKED!

huskerbb wrote:

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People that want jobs--have jobs.

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 Yes.

Unemployment only lasts so long and is meant to get people through until they are employed again.

Downsizing, lay offs, and closings are not the choices of the employees. 

flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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People that want jobs--have jobs.

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 People that can post on a message board all day can work?

flan

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 They very easily could if they WANTED to.  It comes down to being lazy.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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My comments were tongue in cheek. But I can tell you that Lily's attitude is highly offensive. She thinks she's so much better than everyone else when, in fact, as LL said she is a convicted felon who is sucking up disability. AND, how quickly we forget that Lily was just recently receiving food stamps.

Like Msrock we rent. We pay our rent on time and often pay it ahead of time. We are responsible. And I'd love to know Lily's theory on who pays my property taxes. That is an ignorant ass statement. If anyone thinks our landlords are sucking up the property taxes out of their own pockets they are really uneducated. Property taxes are figured into our rent so basically we ARE paying our property taxes.

We have rights as citizens and for someone to think they are better than someone else and their vote should be taken away is mind boggling. And it's especially mind boggling coming from someone who is always constantly screaming about how she wants her right acknowledged. Well here's news for you. You start curtailing other people's rights and soon yours are gone. And don't gripe about it when it happens.

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 Yes.

So by my own standard, I couldn't vote when receiving  food stamps.

See how that works?

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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No. My son didn't choose to be disabled. But the difference between him and you is he's a loving caring person who doesn't want to take everyone else's rights away from them.

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 I don't either.

But I don't want just anyone being able to decide who runs our government. 

And I didn't choose to be disabled.

But you did a good job trying to shame me for it.

Hope you feel you feel better about yourself.

And before you throw stones, you've admitted to being on government assistance. 

So what gives you the right to look down your nose at me?

huskerbb wrote:

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No, people don't choose to be disabled. But many who are in that category could do SOMETHING, but choose not to.

Most are not bedridden and completely crippled.

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 True. 

However it does become a limited pool of options.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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People that want jobs--have jobs.

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 People that can post on a message board all day can work?

flan

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 Why not?  Just because you can't do everything doesnt' mean you can't do SOMETHING.  Sorry, but there are lot of "disabled" people who simply just don't want to work.

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 In my case, since this seems to be about me, I was accessed by an occupational therapist, two doctors and a judge.

I didn't wander in and just sign up.

It was a 3 year process. 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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No. My son didn't choose to be disabled. But the difference between him and you is he's a loving caring person who doesn't want to take everyone else's rights away from them.

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 I don't either.

But I don't want just anyone being able to decide who runs our government. 

And I didn't choose to be disabled.

But you did a good job trying to shame me for it.

Hope you feel you feel better about yourself.

And before you throw stones, you've admitted to being on government assistance. 

So what gives you the right to look down your nose at me?

 

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 She's not the one saying you shouldn't have the right to vote because of it.  You are.

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 And when I was using food stamps, it would have included myself.

I'm pointing the finger at myself with my opinion.

 

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 That really doesn't make it better. 

Lawyerlady wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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No. My son didn't choose to be disabled. But the difference between him and you is he's a loving caring person who doesn't want to take everyone else's rights away from them.

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 I don't either.

But I don't want just anyone being able to decide who runs our government. 

And I didn't choose to be disabled.

But you did a good job trying to shame me for it.

Hope you feel you feel better about yourself.

And before you throw stones, you've admitted to being on government assistance. 

So what gives you the right to look down your nose at me?

 

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 She's not the one saying you shouldn't have the right to vote because of it.  You are.

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 And when I was using food stamps, it would have included myself.

I'm pointing the finger at myself with my opinion.

 

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 That really doesn't make it better. 

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 It actually makes it worse, imo.

flan

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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No. My son didn't choose to be disabled. But the difference between him and you is he's a loving caring person who doesn't want to take everyone else's rights away from them.

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 I don't either.

But I don't want just anyone being able to decide who runs our government. 

And I didn't choose to be disabled.

But you did a good job trying to shame me for it.

Hope you feel you feel better about yourself.

And before you throw stones, you've admitted to being on government assistance. 

So what gives you the right to look down your nose at me?

 

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 She's not the one saying you shouldn't have the right to vote because of it.  You are.

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 And when I was using food stamps, it would have included myself.

I'm pointing the finger at myself with my opinion.

 

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 That really doesn't make it better. 

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 Maybe.

But it does take the air out of the argument that I'm judging others when I, myself, would be negatively effected.

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 No, it doesn't.  Because you were there, and you now think yourself better because you've switched from welfare and food stamps to a disability check.  Somehow, you think that suddenly makes you a more worthy citizen than a struggling mother on welfare. 

flan327 wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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No. My son didn't choose to be disabled. But the difference between him and you is he's a loving caring person who doesn't want to take everyone else's rights away from them.

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 That's pretty personal.  I mean, you can agree to disagree.  But, do you know her personally?  

-- Edited by Lady Gaga Snerd on Friday 18th of December 2015 05:09:16 PM

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 Several of us have been posting for 7 years...so yeah, we know her.

flan

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 So, a person is the sum total of what they post on the internet?  Oh ok.   

Lawyerlady wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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No. My son didn't choose to be disabled. But the difference between him and you is he's a loving caring person who doesn't want to take everyone else's rights away from them.

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 I don't either.

But I don't want just anyone being able to decide who runs our government. 

And I didn't choose to be disabled.

But you did a good job trying to shame me for it.

Hope you feel you feel better about yourself.

And before you throw stones, you've admitted to being on government assistance. 

So what gives you the right to look down your nose at me?

 

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 She's not the one saying you shouldn't have the right to vote because of it.  You are.

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 And when I was using food stamps, it would have included myself.

I'm pointing the finger at myself with my opinion.

 

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 That really doesn't make it better. 

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 Maybe.

But it does take the air out of the argument that I'm judging others when I, myself, would be negatively effected.

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 No, it doesn't.  Because you were there, and you now think yourself better because you've switched from welfare and food stamps to a disability check.  Somehow, you think that suddenly makes you a more worthy citizen than a struggling mother on welfare. 

 

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 Not true. 

What I understand is those depending on the government vote that way.

It's like this.

Candidates can not give gifts or incentives to "buy" a vote.

weltschmerz wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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No. My son didn't choose to be disabled. But the difference between him and you is he's a loving caring person who doesn't want to take everyone else's rights away from them.

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 I don't either.

But I don't want just anyone being able to decide who runs our government. 

And I didn't choose to be disabled.

But you did a good job trying to shame me for it.

Hope you feel you feel better about yourself.

And before you throw stones, you've admitted to being on government assistance. 

So what gives you the right to look down your nose at me?

 

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 YOU want to shame people by taking away their right to vote. YOU.

Feel better about yourself? Why are you looking down your nose at renters?

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 I dont.

And I did amend my statement to say that perhaps it would be better to have a requirement of time.

burns07 wrote:

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“When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.”
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never ceases to amaze me how prescient the Founders were

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I know, right?  There is no other reason that I can see that Barack Obama got the presidency twice.   It baffles me.  Too many people thought they were going to get something for nothing.  Now we have no benefits in the workplace.  Obamacare wiped that out.  Employer health care plans are gone now.  It's going to be tough going forward for the next generation.  It's like people really bought into the idea though.  Now they got nothing.

msrock wrote:

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I just want Trump to make America great again. He's the only one out there with the guts and the wherewithal to possibly do that. I could be the stupidest person in the world... or I could be the smartest. I don't know that we have anything left to lose. These are desperate times.

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 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

flan

msrock wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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msrock wrote:

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I just want Trump to make America great again. He's the only one out there with the guts and the wherewithal to possibly do that. I could be the stupidest person in the world... or I could be the smartest. I don't know that we have anything left to lose. These are desperate times.

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 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

flan

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Then who?  Who is going to be that person that can get us out of this crisis we are in?  Are you really satisfied with your government as is?  Because I think they all suck.  Democrats and Conservatives alike.  They don't do anything really worthwhile.  Nothing.  They keep taking, but they don't offer anything in return.  I'm sick of all of them.  That's why I like Trump.  He's not one of them. 

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 Neither is Bernie. And HE is a decent human being, not a pathological liar, and a racist xenophob to boot. 

Trump is slime. Lower than low. You think he cares about the American people? Look at the way he treats people! His employees,  his aides, all of them! He has contempt for the whole world, and he only wants to be president because he thinks he deserves it. 

Scum.

Bernie actually cares about people. Look up his voting record, especially for returning vets! He never forgets his job, he never lets people down. 

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:

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msrock wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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msrock wrote:

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I just want Trump to make America great again. He's the only one out there with the guts and the wherewithal to possibly do that. I could be the stupidest person in the world... or I could be the smartest. I don't know that we have anything left to lose. These are desperate times.

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 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

flan

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Then who?  Who is going to be that person that can get us out of this crisis we are in?  Are you really satisfied with your government as is?  Because I think they all suck.  Democrats and Conservatives alike.  They don't do anything really worthwhile.  Nothing.  They keep taking, but they don't offer anything in return.  I'm sick of all of them.  That's why I like Trump.  He's not one of them. 

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 Neither is Bernie. And HE is a decent human being, not a pathological liar, and a racist xenophob to boot. 

Trump is slime. Lower than low. You think he cares about the American people? Look at the way he treats people! His employees,  his aides, all of them! He has contempt for the whole world, and he only wants to be president because he thinks he deserves it. 

Scum.

 

Bernie actually cares about people. Look up his voting record, especially for returning vets! He never forgets his job, he never lets people down. 

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Trump is not slime.  His family proves that.  Does he poke fun?  Sure!  He only laughs in the face of ridiculousness and he's right.  Everything that's going on right now with our government is ridiculous!  He cares more about this country than most because he's putting his money where his mouth is.  He's not operating on campaign funds.  He's funding his campaign by himself!  He wants to turn **** around and I think he can.  

msrock wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I have my doubts about Trump. My DH is a news addict and I've seen so many interviews with Trump. I've heard him say more than once that he'll say whatever people want to hear. I don't want another person that will just say words to get votes.

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He's saying what everyone wants to say but they are afraid to.  He says things that we talk about in the privacy of our own homes.   He's probably the most honest of the bunch.  They can't say what they really want to, but he is. He's not bought and paid for by the establishment... very refreshing for those of us who are tired of talking heads and political correctness.

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 He doesn't speak for me.

Tignanello wrote:

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It doesn't bother you that he's basically buying himself a Presidency?

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 It bothers me.

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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msrock wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I have my doubts about Trump. My DH is a news addict and I've seen so many interviews with Trump. I've heard him say more than once that he'll say whatever people want to hear. I don't want another person that will just say words to get votes.

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He's saying what everyone wants to say but they are afraid to.  He says things that we talk about in the privacy of our own homes.   He's probably the most honest of the bunch.  They can't say what they really want to, but he is. He's not bought and paid for by the establishment... very refreshing for those of us who are tired of talking heads and political correctness.

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 He doesn't speak for me.

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 Then dont vote for him.  

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:

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msrock wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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msrock wrote:

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I just want Trump to make America great again. He's the only one out there with the guts and the wherewithal to possibly do that. I could be the stupidest person in the world... or I could be the smartest. I don't know that we have anything left to lose. These are desperate times.

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 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

flan

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Then who?  Who is going to be that person that can get us out of this crisis we are in?  Are you really satisfied with your government as is?  Because I think they all suck.  Democrats and Conservatives alike.  They don't do anything really worthwhile.  Nothing.  They keep taking, but they don't offer anything in return.  I'm sick of all of them.  That's why I like Trump.  He's not one of them. 

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 Neither is Bernie. And HE is a decent human being, not a pathological liar, and a racist xenophob to boot. 

Trump is slime. Lower than low. You think he cares about the American people? Look at the way he treats people! His employees,  his aides, all of them! He has contempt for the whole world, and he only wants to be president because he thinks he deserves it. 

Scum.

 

Bernie actually cares about people. Look up his voting record, especially for returning vets! He never forgets his job, he never lets people down. 

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 Oh ok.  He's not slime.  He's a good person who cares about his family and his country.  He creates jobs for people which allows them to support their  familes and live the American dream which is s hell of a lot more than the rest of them have done.  In case you havent noticed it doesnt take any particular skill to be a legislator and sit in an office signing bills.  Trump brings Executive competence which is what this country needs.

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:

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msrock wrote:

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Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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I have my doubts about Trump. My DH is a news addict and I've seen so many interviews with Trump. I've heard him say more than once that he'll say whatever people want to hear. I don't want another person that will just say words to get votes.

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He's saying what everyone wants to say but they are afraid to.  He says things that we talk about in the privacy of our own homes.   He's probably the most honest of the bunch.  They can't say what they really want to, but he is. He's not bought and paid for by the establishment... very refreshing for those of us who are tired of talking heads and political correctness.

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 Ha! He has been PROVEN as a liar, and the most dishonest of the bunch. Look it up. 

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 Uh huh.  Seriously?  After listening to the LIES and LIES and LIES of Obama and Hillary?  Sure.