DEAR AMY: I am ashamed to say that my husband and I keep an extremely messy and dirty home. My husband was raised by a hoarder and I was raised by a neat freak, our apartment seems to fall closer to the hoarder side. Our apartment is disgustingly dirty. My husband works full time (plus overtime) and I work full time and go to school full time, between this and our three pets there is just no leftover time or energy to clean the house. Clutter is the biggest problem overall. Junk will be piled on every surface. I do my best to keep garbage and food waste out of the picture but our pets will pull out garbage and hide it in the clutter. We usually run out of clean dishes after a week or two and then one of us binge cleans the dishes and the cycle starts all over again. In the past year my home has been spotless maybe four or five days. This always happens the day we are expecting family or the landlord to come over. It takes me half a day to power-clean the apartment and it is beautiful — but then within a week it becomes a disgusting mess again. Recently, my father surprised us with a visit. He didn’t say anything to my face, but I heard from my brother that he was disgusted and ashamed of me because he raised me better that this. I am just at my wits’ end. We’ve tried allocating chores and making flexible schedules, but there is always an excuse why something can’t be cleaned. Some nights I don’t even have time to feed myself or shower, let alone tidy the living room and put away the groceries. I don’t want my parents to have this view of me. I want them to see me as an adult who can keep a clean home.
— Help?!
DEAR HELP: One way to cope with this is to hire a bi-weekly cleaner. You will power-clean before the cleaner’s first visit, and pre-clean and deal with accumulation before subsequent visits. You can get to the point where a few minutes each day will help to keep things in order. Living in filth is not good for any member of the household, including your pets.
This might always be something of a struggle because of what you are like, how busy you are and the presence of your pets. But if you want to change, you can change.
There are many resources teaching people how to tidy up, but my favorite is the Flylady. Check out flylady.net for practical tips (“BabySteps”) on how to get started when you are overwhelmed, and how to establish new habits.
Flylady suggests that people start with the sink. That’s where you should start, too.
This is one of the most ambitious and life-changing efforts you can make, and it is transformative.
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Yeah.
Two adults should be able to keep things in order.
One thing is to never leave a room empty handed.
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Pick up after yourself as you go and the mess wont get as bad. If you really can't do it, and it bothers you, then a cleaning service would be a good investment, but even then you will have to pick up after yourself a least a little bit.
The problem is this - he was raised by a hoarder and was never talk to clean up after himself. She was raised by a neat freak and is likely backlashing against what she had to deal with as a kid living with a neat freak. They are both going to need to change a lot of habits.
I can actually sympathize. I was headed toward hoarderville. But, with some drastic measures, and come to Jesus talks with myself, we have gotten rid of more than we kept and are now keeping up with everything. Halleluia!
They need a roll-off dumpster. It is amazing how easy and cathartic it can be to just toss and toss and toss - it helps with the over-whelmingness. And they need to clean it all out and what they can't bear to part with right now goes into a storage unit. When they realize it can be lived without - it will get easier to get rid off.
They are going to each have to take at least a week off work to do this. And they may need to suck up their pride and ask family to help.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I just don't understand how people can live like this. And if the husband is working full time and overtime and she's working full time and going to school full-time, why in the hell did they get three pets?? That's not right. I hate that.
If they are working full time & she is going to school how does the house get so dirty? I mean there is nobody home to dirty it. If the dogs are pulling garbage out of the can get one with a heavy lid so they can't.
I don't dust or mop much but things look picked up. I don't get how it could be so messy either.
Though I know people who make messes on purpose....they think it's cool somehow.
Weird.
If they are working full time & she is going to school how does the house get so dirty? I mean there is nobody home to dirty it. If the dogs are pulling garbage out of the can get one with a heavy lid so they can't.
My thoughts exactly!
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I just don't understand how people can live like this. And if the husband is working full time and overtime and she's working full time and going to school full-time, why in the hell did they get three pets?? That's not right. I hate that.
I don't dust or mop much but things look picked up. I don't get how it could be so messy either. Though I know people who make messes on purpose....they think it's cool somehow. Weird.
Spouse uses STUFF to mark her territory.
Every open square inch on any table or surface has to have something on it.
I keep the kitchen functional most of the time.
Dishes? Paper plates, plastic cups and cutlery.
Pots and pans? When they get used I wash them immediately.
Vacuum? ... um ....
I wash the laundry as needed.
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If she can only make herself clean when people are coming over, she needs to institute a bi-weekly gathering of friends or family at her house.
I don't think that will help actually. Unless they have their surfaces cleared, a housekeeper is not going to know what to do with a volume of stuff and there is really no way to clean around it. What i suggest is what i call "Commando Cleaning". This is a take no prisoners type of cleaning. For instance, i was getting over run with toys due to generous relatives. So, one summer, i took ALL the toys out and laid them down on the driveway. I said, take whatever you want. But, take it now, because if you don't, its' going to Goodwill. Well, they sorted though, picked a few toys over about 5 min then walked away. I literally took every blessed thing and stuffed it into a box and sent it to Goodwill. I have learned over time that too much stuff can own you. It owns your time, it owns your piece of mind. And, kids get overwhelmed by too much crap. Get rid of it.
And, I know they are both working full time and she is in school. So, ok, there has to be a ONE day somewhere in there that they can tackle something. And, it becomes very motivating. You clean out the bedroom closet for instance. And it feels good and it motivates you to do more. Over time, you can get control back of your house.
I can see letting things get cluttered but to not do your dishes till all the plates are gone? Leave trash where dogs can get into them and like ms rock said, why have 3 dogs when you are hardly ever home. There is messy and then there is dirty.
I can see letting things get cluttered but to not do your dishes till all the plates are gone? Leave trash where dogs can get into them and like ms rock said, why have 3 dogs when you are hardly ever home. There is messy and then there is dirty.
Like you never drank wine out of a measuring cup....
If she can only make herself clean when people are coming over, she needs to institute a bi-weekly gathering of friends or family at her house.
I don't think that will help actually. Unless they have their surfaces cleared, a housekeeper is not going to know what to do with a volume of stuff and there is really no way to clean around it. What i suggest is what i call "Commando Cleaning". This is a take no prisoners type of cleaning. For instance, i was getting over run with toys due to generous relatives. So, one summer, i took ALL the toys out and laid them down on the driveway. I said, take whatever you want. But, take it now, because if you don't, its' going to Goodwill. Well, they sorted though, picked a few toys over about 5 min then walked away. I literally took every blessed thing and stuffed it into a box and sent it to Goodwill. I have learned over time that too much stuff can own you. It owns your time, it owns your piece of mind. And, kids get overwhelmed by too much crap. Get rid of it.
And, I know they are both working full time and she is in school. So, ok, there has to be a ONE day somewhere in there that they can tackle something. And, it becomes very motivating. You clean out the bedroom closet for instance. And it feels good and it motivates you to do more. Over time, you can get control back of your house.
Yes. I posted a couple weeks ago about cleaning out DD's room. I got rid of 2 huge black trash bags worth of stuff, and she has yet to notice.
I can see letting things get cluttered but to not do your dishes till all the plates are gone? Leave trash where dogs can get into them and like ms rock said, why have 3 dogs when you are hardly ever home. There is messy and then there is dirty.
Like you never drank wine out of a measuring cup....
Why dirty a measuring cup? Drink it from the bottle.
It isn't hard to keep a house picked up and wiped down.
Need to clean the shower? Spray it down when you start getting your clothes to take your shower. Wipe it down when you get in.
Tub? Spray it down when you go in to pee. Wash it down before you leave.
Put the toilet cleaner in before showering, scrub and flush when done.
Keep those quick wipes in the bathroom and wipe down the counters and sink while brushing your teeth.
Lightly mist a dust mop with water and run over the floors as you go out the door.
Swiffer once a week.
It takes less than 5 minutes to vacuum a room. Do it as you walk through.
Clean as you cook. Wash as you go. Keep a little soap water in the sink and wash what you use. With 2 people, it shouldn't take 5 minutes to clean up after a meal.
The clorox wipes are great for wiping down cabinets as you leave the room.
Never leave a room empty handed.
Dust as you walk by a table or book case.
If you start a load of clothes the minute you get up, they are usually ready for the dryer as you leave.
It's not hard to keep a house clean.
It's simply a matter of doing it.
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I did it. Worked full time, 3 kids underfoot, and daily things that needs done.
It's not about doing it all at one time.
It's about using time wisely.
I mean, it isnt hard and takes no more time to do while doing what needs to be done.
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Homework help, any lessons we need to get to and back again, school projects that need done, shopping, parent teacher meetings, doctor's appointments....
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While I am cooking, I am cleaning the kitchen as I go.
When we sit down to eat, the only things left to wash is what we have in our hands.
It takes 5 minutes to wash up what's left and I wipe down the sink and cabinet as I leave. There are 6 of us here. I don't have a dishwasher.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
It isn't hard to keep a house picked up and wiped down.
Need to clean the shower? Spray it down when you start getting your clothes to take your shower. Wipe it down when you get in.
Tub? Spray it down when you go in to pee. Wash it down before you leave.
Put the toilet cleaner in before showering, scrub and flush when done.
Keep those quick wipes in the bathroom and wipe down the counters and sink while brushing your teeth.
Lightly mist a dust mop with water and run over the floors as you go out the door.
Swiffer once a week.
It takes less than 5 minutes to vacuum a room. Do it as you walk through.
Clean as you cook. Wash as you go. Keep a little soap water in the sink and wash what you use. With 2 people, it shouldn't take 5 minutes to clean up after a meal.
The clorox wipes are great for wiping down cabinets as you leave the room.
Never leave a room empty handed.
Dust as you walk by a table or book case.
If you start a load of clothes the minute you get up, they are usually ready for the dryer as you leave.
It's not hard to keep a house clean.
It's simply a matter of doing it.
So, be cleaning ALL THE TIME, even when showering or walking out the door or peeing or getting dressed?
Homework help, any lessons we need to get to and back again, school projects that need done, shopping, parent teacher meetings, doctor's appointments....
Yep. Did it.
The kids got home from school at 2:45. I had to leave for work at 4:30.
We did homework, got their showers, and I made dinner, fed them and cleaned up in that time.
All I'm saying is, you don't have to do everything, all the cleaning, at one time.
It can be broken down and done as you do other things that need doing.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
It isn't hard to keep a house picked up and wiped down.
Need to clean the shower? Spray it down when you start getting your clothes to take your shower. Wipe it down when you get in.
Tub? Spray it down when you go in to pee. Wash it down before you leave.
Put the toilet cleaner in before showering, scrub and flush when done.
Keep those quick wipes in the bathroom and wipe down the counters and sink while brushing your teeth.
Lightly mist a dust mop with water and run over the floors as you go out the door.
Swiffer once a week.
It takes less than 5 minutes to vacuum a room. Do it as you walk through.
Clean as you cook. Wash as you go. Keep a little soap water in the sink and wash what you use. With 2 people, it shouldn't take 5 minutes to clean up after a meal.
The clorox wipes are great for wiping down cabinets as you leave the room.
Never leave a room empty handed.
Dust as you walk by a table or book case.
If you start a load of clothes the minute you get up, they are usually ready for the dryer as you leave.
It's not hard to keep a house clean.
It's simply a matter of doing it.
So, be cleaning ALL THE TIME, even when showering or walking out the door or peeing or getting dressed?
Oy! That would make me crazy. Sounds like OCD.
It's how I kept things going.
It isn't hard.
It's just keeping things done.
So that when I was with my kids I could be fully with them.
I mean, how much time does it take to wipe down a sink while washing your hands?
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
It isn't hard to keep a house picked up and wiped down.
Need to clean the shower? Spray it down when you start getting your clothes to take your shower. Wipe it down when you get in.
Tub? Spray it down when you go in to pee. Wash it down before you leave.
Put the toilet cleaner in before showering, scrub and flush when done.
Keep those quick wipes in the bathroom and wipe down the counters and sink while brushing your teeth.
Lightly mist a dust mop with water and run over the floors as you go out the door.
Swiffer once a week.
It takes less than 5 minutes to vacuum a room. Do it as you walk through.
Clean as you cook. Wash as you go. Keep a little soap water in the sink and wash what you use. With 2 people, it shouldn't take 5 minutes to clean up after a meal.
The clorox wipes are great for wiping down cabinets as you leave the room.
Never leave a room empty handed.
Dust as you walk by a table or book case.
If you start a load of clothes the minute you get up, they are usually ready for the dryer as you leave.
It's not hard to keep a house clean.
It's simply a matter of doing it.
So, be cleaning ALL THE TIME, even when showering or walking out the door or peeing or getting dressed?
Oy! That would make me crazy. Sounds like OCD.
OMG I don't wanna think about cleaning all the dang time! Sometimes you have to let things go undone. There are times you can only do what you can do. So, yeah, sometimes things get a bit chaotic. But, then later you have to double down and get stuff done.
It's just about seeing something that needs doing and doing it.
Now I had to keep things dusted and vacuumed because of Aaron's allergies.
I did that at the very least every other day.
I don't know.
I just know what worked for me and my home.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
It isn't hard to keep a house picked up and wiped down.
Need to clean the shower? Spray it down when you start getting your clothes to take your shower. Wipe it down when you get in.
Tub? Spray it down when you go in to pee. Wash it down before you leave.
Put the toilet cleaner in before showering, scrub and flush when done.
Keep those quick wipes in the bathroom and wipe down the counters and sink while brushing your teeth.
Lightly mist a dust mop with water and run over the floors as you go out the door.
Swiffer once a week.
It takes less than 5 minutes to vacuum a room. Do it as you walk through.
Clean as you cook. Wash as you go. Keep a little soap water in the sink and wash what you use. With 2 people, it shouldn't take 5 minutes to clean up after a meal.
The clorox wipes are great for wiping down cabinets as you leave the room.
Never leave a room empty handed.
Dust as you walk by a table or book case.
If you start a load of clothes the minute you get up, they are usually ready for the dryer as you leave.
It's not hard to keep a house clean.
It's simply a matter of doing it.
So, be cleaning ALL THE TIME, even when showering or walking out the door or peeing or getting dressed?
Oy! That would make me crazy. Sounds like OCD.
OMG I don't wanna think about cleaning all the dang time! Sometimes you have to let things go undone. There are times you can only do what you can do. So, yeah, sometimes things get a bit chaotic. But, then later you have to double down and get stuff done.
Exactly my thoughts. That would drive me crazy. Can't I even take a pee without thinking about cleaning something? Oy. I would be incredibly irritated.
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Well I am very lucky, because I don't really have to clean much. Our home is immaculate because I happen to be with the neatest, most organized guy on the planet. I'm the messy one. But he cleans up my messes... And then some. We are good together because I bring other things to the table. It all works out. I haven't touched a toilet brush in 10 years. lol!
I can see letting things get cluttered but to not do your dishes till all the plates are gone? Leave trash where dogs can get into them and like ms rock said, why have 3 dogs when you are hardly ever home. There is messy and then there is dirty.
Like you never drank wine out of a measuring cup....
I would never drink wine in anything but crystal 🍷 (turns up nose)
Well I am very lucky, because I don't really have to clean much. Our home is immaculate because I happen to be with the neatest, most organized guy on the planet. I'm the messy one. But he cleans up my messes... And then some. We are good together because I bring other things to the table. It all works out. I haven't touched a toilet brush in 10 years. lol!
Yes, but you're living in sin so none of that actually counts!
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My house is messy at times, but not dirty. I average working about 50 hours a week plus about 4 hours on Sunday for church stuff. I also have a small sad social life. Things get done but my home is no showcase. DD does a lot of the cleaning.
They run out of dishes after a week or two? Here is your first clue... You have too much stuff to be able to eat and dirty two weeks of dishes before having to wash them. (Um ew! Mold anyone?!) Get rid of the 8 place settings and trim it down to two plates, two bowels and one set of silverware. Purge purge purge! Every day throw something out, give it away or store it off site. Look into my eyes and repeat after meeeeee.... Less is more. Less is more. Less is more.
If each one washes their own place setting, how hard can it be?
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
They run out of dishes after a week or two? Here is your first clue... You have too much stuff to be able to eat and dirty two weeks of dishes before having to wash them. (Um ew! Mold anyone?!) Get rid of the 8 place settings and trim it down to two plates, two bowels and one set of silverware. Purge purge purge! Every day throw something out, give it away or store it off site. Look into my eyes and repeat after meeeeee.... Less is more. Less is more. Less is more.
I am betting they don't eat breakfast, lunch is at work, and dinner is the only (if any) meal they eat at home. It might take 2 weeks to get through 8 place settings if they eat out a few times a week.
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