TOTALLY GEEKED!

ed11563 · Guru

When Donald Trump's words scared this Muslim girl, these Army vets responded perfectly.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Can't wait for the responses...

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

FREEDOM of religion. Take that away, and we are no longer America.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

I teared up when I read this. While I actually kind of like Trump it hurt to read that his words scared this little girl. And I loved the responses from our military people.

ed11563 · Guru

When I was little, the Holocaust and the Japanese-American internment camps were not ancient history, they were recent realities.

Growing up I knew several people who had survived Hitler's death camps, they had their Nazi ID numbers tattooed on their forearms.

Sometimes people would say, "It can't happen here in America". But the underlying tone included "or can it?"

When I was her age the "or can it" was a real thing to consider.

I understand her fear.

Could Trump be elected??? Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Tinydancer · Guru

I'd protect her and I'm not even military.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

ed11563 wrote:
When I was little, the Holocaust and the Japanese-American internment camps were not ancient history, they were recent realities.
Growing up I knew several people who had survived Hitler's death camps, they had their Nazi ID numbers tattooed on their forearms.
Sometimes people would say, "It can't happen here in America". But the underlying tone included "or can it?"
When I was her age the "or can it" was a real thing to consider.
I understand her fear.
Could Trump be elected??? Be afraid. Be very afraid.

If Trump gets elected, it will be the result of backlash of the idiot Obama. Every action has a consequence, and electing that moron to office TWICE will result in things you really don't like.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Link please.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
FREEDOM of religion. Take that away, and we are no longer America.

I don't understand the point you're making.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Link please.

Yes, ed made up the whole story!

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Just because a story is on the internet doesn't make it true. There is a lot of political spinning going on. She's probably a relative of Clock Boy.

huskerbb · Guru

A VERY disingenuous article. Trump has not suggested kicking any American citizens out of the country.

Heck, he hasn't even suggested kicking those non-citizens that are here LEGALLY out.

What he has said is that we should keep more Muslims from entering the country--and we should.

NO ONE on the globe has some unalienable right to enter the U.S. The U.S. has every right to set up whatever conditions it wants to for people to be able to enter. It would be beyond prudent to deny entry to those groups, nationalities, and citizens of those nations from which the vast majority of terrorists come from. It's obvious our current policies are wholly useless in preventing said terrorists from entering the country (see San Bernadino atrack and Boston Marathon bombing).

The fact that an eight year old girl doesn't understand the finer points of such political discourse is too bad--but then it's obvious that many adults don't, either.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
FREEDOM of religion. Take that away, and we are no longer America.
I don't understand the point you're making.
flan

Me, either. We have freedom of religion (despite how hard liberals are working to end it)--but that does not somehow apply To non-citizens Who are not in this country.

huskerbb · Guru

ed11563 wrote:
When I was little, the Holocaust and the Japanese-American internment camps were not ancient history, they were recent realities.
Growing up I knew several people who had survived Hitler's death camps, they had their Nazi ID numbers tattooed on their forearms.
Sometimes people would say, "It can't happen here in America". But the underlying tone included "or can it?"
When I was her age the "or can it" was a real thing to consider.
I understand her fear.
Could Trump be elected??? Be afraid. Be very afraid.

You are a HUGE hypocrite. You were in favor of bombing these very people in another thread, and now you are critical of a POTENTIAL policy to keep,them from entering the U.S.

further, you would support Israelis VERY strict immigration policies, but want the U.S. to not do the one thing that would be most effective in keeping terrorists from entering our country.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
FREEDOM of religion. Take that away, and we are no longer America.
I don't understand the point you're making.
flan
Me, either. We have freedom of religion (despite how hard liberals are working to end it)--but that does not somehow apply To non-citizens Who are not in this country.

The little girl in the OP most certainly IS a U.S. citizen.

The first amendment does not say Freedom for Christianity, it says Freedom of religion. You cannot strip people of their citizenship and deport them based on their religion.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
FREEDOM of religion. Take that away, and we are no longer America.
I don't understand the point you're making.
flan
Me, either. We have freedom of religion (despite how hard liberals are working to end it)--but that does not somehow apply To non-citizens Who are not in this country.
The little girl in the OP most certainly IS a U.S. citizen.
The first amendment does not say Freedom for Christianity, it says Freedom of religion. You cannot strip people of their citizenship and deport them based on their religion.

????

Where do you get your nonsense. No one is talking about deporting citizens.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
FREEDOM of religion. Take that away, and we are no longer America.
I don't understand the point you're making.
flan
Me, either. We have freedom of religion (despite how hard liberals are working to end it)--but that does not somehow apply To non-citizens Who are not in this country.
The little girl in the OP most certainly IS a U.S. citizen.
The first amendment does not say Freedom for Christianity, it says Freedom of religion. You cannot strip people of their citizenship and deport them based on their religion.
????
Where do you get your nonsense. No one is talking about deporting citizens.

Do you people even read the OPs before you comment?

Tinydancer · Guru

Read the OP. The little girl was afraid of being deported.

TrudyML · Guru

Get out if you are worried!

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
FREEDOM of religion. Take that away, and we are no longer America.
I don't understand the point you're making.
flan
Me, either. We have freedom of religion (despite how hard liberals are working to end it)--but that does not somehow apply To non-citizens Who are not in this country.
The little girl in the OP most certainly IS a U.S. citizen.
The first amendment does not say Freedom for Christianity, it says Freedom of religion. You cannot strip people of their citizenship and deport them based on their religion.
????
Where do you get your nonsense. No one is talking about deporting citizens.
Do you people even read the OPs before you comment?

Yeah, I read it. My point stands. He has not mentioned deporting U.S. Citizens.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
Read the OP. The little girl was afraid of being deported.

So what? Shes a little kid who doesn't understand the relevant politics--pretty much like EVERY OTHER eight year old.

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Read the OP. The little girl was afraid of being deported.
So what? Shes a little kid who doesn't understand the relevant politics--pretty much like EVERY OTHER eight year old.

You asked where LL got her nonsense. From the OP. Try to keep up.

huskerbb · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Read the OP. The little girl was afraid of being deported.
So what? Shes a little kid who doesn't understand the relevant politics--pretty much like EVERY OTHER eight year old.
You asked where LL got her nonsense. From the OP. Try to keep up.

repeating nonsense does not somehow make it true.

since no one has suggested deporting citizens based on their religion, the freedom of religion comment is irrelevant.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Read the OP. The little girl was afraid of being deported.
So what? Shes a little kid who doesn't understand the relevant politics--pretty much like EVERY OTHER eight year old.
You asked where LL got her nonsense. From the OP. Try to keep up.
repeating nonsense does not somehow make it true.

since no one has suggested deporting citizens based on their religion, the freedom of religion comment is irrelevant.

People should not be afraid to practice their religion in this country,not for any reason. The constant railing against Muslims and fear mongering is un-American.

ed11563 · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Read the OP. The little girl was afraid of being deported.
So what? Shes a little kid who doesn't understand the relevant politics--pretty much like EVERY OTHER eight year old.
You asked where LL got her nonsense. From the OP. Try to keep up.
repeating nonsense does not somehow make it true.

since no one has suggested deporting citizens based on their religion, the freedom of religion comment is irrelevant.

Are you familiar with the term "slippery slope"?

"since no one has suggested deporting citizens based on their religion,"

What rock have you been under? No one???

Tinydancer · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Read the OP. The little girl was afraid of being deported.
So what? Shes a little kid who doesn't understand the relevant politics--pretty much like EVERY OTHER eight year old.
You asked where LL got her nonsense. From the OP. Try to keep up.
repeating nonsense does not somehow make it true.

since no one has suggested deporting citizens based on their religion, the freedom of religion comment is irrelevant.

She was actually discussing the OP. I'm not sure why you pretend otherwise. Also there has been lot's of talk about deporting "them" or rounding "them" up like the Japanese during WWII. You sure seem to want to just get rid of "them" all. For someone who claims to know history you must also know it has a habit of repeating itself.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Read the OP. The little girl was afraid of being deported.
So what? Shes a little kid who doesn't understand the relevant politics--pretty much like EVERY OTHER eight year old.
You asked where LL got her nonsense. From the OP. Try to keep up.
repeating nonsense does not somehow make it true.

since no one has suggested deporting citizens based on their religion, the freedom of religion comment is irrelevant.
People should not be afraid to practice their religion in this country,not for any reason. The constant railing against Muslims and fear mongering is un-American.

Um, ok. That has nothing to do with what trump actually said, but whatever.

huskerbb · Guru

ed11563 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Read the OP. The little girl was afraid of being deported.
So what? Shes a little kid who doesn't understand the relevant politics--pretty much like EVERY OTHER eight year old.
You asked where LL got her nonsense. From the OP. Try to keep up.
repeating nonsense does not somehow make it true.

since no one has suggested deporting citizens based on their religion, the freedom of religion comment is irrelevant.
Are you familiar with the term "slippery slope"?
"since no one has suggested deporting citizens based on their religion,"
What rock have you been under? No one???

Who has suggested that? I haven't heard any politician or anyone else suggest such a thing. Quotes?

actually YOU were one who has suggested wholesale bombing of Muslims.

-- Edited by huskerbb on Tuesday 22nd of December 2015 04:15:36 PM

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

No.

No one wants a child to be scared.

However, if her family can't shield her from the news and explain the reasons behind the news reports, well, that's on them.

huskerbb · Guru

The OP suggests a connection between what Donald trump has publicly stated and this girls fear. The only connection is by those who can't even be bothered to look at what he actually said and go off on some tangent about rounding people up, deporting citizens, and freedom of religion--NONE of which have anything to do with what he said.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I bet a lot of that girls fear comes from the propaganda coming from her own family's mouths.

huskerbb · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
I bet a lot of that girls fear comes from the propaganda coming from her own family's mouths.

And the media--and other articles such as this that can't be bothered to report, you know, facts and such.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
The OP suggests a connection between what Donald trump has publicly stated and this girls fear. The only connection is by those who can't even be bothered to look at what he actually said and go off on some tangent about rounding people up, deporting citizens, and freedom of religion--NONE of which have anything to do with what he said.

But it is how the media is portraying what he said.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
The OP suggests a connection between what Donald trump has publicly stated and this girls fear. The only connection is by those who can't even be bothered to look at what he actually said and go off on some tangent about rounding people up, deporting citizens, and freedom of religion--NONE of which have anything to do with what he said.
But it is how the media is portraying what he said.

Sure, but that's not his fault which is what this article is trying to portray.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
The OP suggests a connection between what Donald trump has publicly stated and this girls fear. The only connection is by those who can't even be bothered to look at what he actually said and go off on some tangent about rounding people up, deporting citizens, and freedom of religion--NONE of which have anything to do with what he said.
But it is how the media is portraying what he said.
Sure, but that's not his fault which is what this article is trying to portray.

It is partially his fault b/c of the way he talks, he leaves himself wide open to interpretation. But the media is fear-mongering, and it is not right.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
The OP suggests a connection between what Donald trump has publicly stated and this girls fear. The only connection is by those who can't even be bothered to look at what he actually said and go off on some tangent about rounding people up, deporting citizens, and freedom of religion--NONE of which have anything to do with what he said.
But it is how the media is portraying what he said.
Sure, but that's not his fault which is what this article is trying to portray.
It is partially his fault b/c of the way he talks, he leaves himself wide open to interpretation. But the media is fear-mongering, and it is not right.

No it isn't. Not when there is a deliberate disconnect between what he actually said and what is being attributed to him. Heck, you are doing the same thing. So is Ed.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
The OP suggests a connection between what Donald trump has publicly stated and this girls fear. The only connection is by those who can't even be bothered to look at what he actually said and go off on some tangent about rounding people up, deporting citizens, and freedom of religion--NONE of which have anything to do with what he said.
But it is how the media is portraying what he said.
Sure, but that's not his fault which is what this article is trying to portray.
It is partially his fault b/c of the way he talks, he leaves himself wide open to interpretation. But the media is fear-mongering, and it is not right.
No it isn't. Not when there is a deliberate disconnect between what he actually said and what is being attributed to him. Heck, you are doing the same thing. So is Ed.

Yes, it is. They are trying to misinpret what he says to make people afraid - so they won't vote for him. Comprende? And Donald Trump feeds into it with the way he rants.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Read the OP. The little girl was afraid of being deported.
So what? Shes a little kid who doesn't understand the relevant politics--pretty much like EVERY OTHER eight year old.

So what? Eight-year-olds don't magically understand everything. She had a valid concern, imo.

flan

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Read the OP. The little girl was afraid of being deported.
So what? Shes a little kid who doesn't understand the relevant politics--pretty much like EVERY OTHER eight year old.
You asked where LL got her nonsense. From the OP. Try to keep up.
repeating nonsense does not somehow make it true.

since no one has suggested deporting citizens based on their religion, the freedom of religion comment is irrelevant.
People should not be afraid to practice their religion in this country,not for any reason. The constant railing against Muslims and fear mongering is un-American.

Finally, we agree on something!

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Read the OP. The little girl was afraid of being deported.
So what? Shes a little kid who doesn't understand the relevant politics--pretty much like EVERY OTHER eight year old.
You asked where LL got her nonsense. From the OP. Try to keep up.
repeating nonsense does not somehow make it true.

since no one has suggested deporting citizens based on their religion, the freedom of religion comment is irrelevant.
People should not be afraid to practice their religion in this country,not for any reason. The constant railing against Muslims and fear mongering is un-American.
Finally, we agree on something!

WE agree on more than this!

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
The OP suggests a connection between what Donald trump has publicly stated and this girls fear. The only connection is by those who can't even be bothered to look at what he actually said and go off on some tangent about rounding people up, deporting citizens, and freedom of religion--NONE of which have anything to do with what he said.
But it is how the media is portraying what he said.
Sure, but that's not his fault which is what this article is trying to portray.
It is partially his fault b/c of the way he talks, he leaves himself wide open to interpretation. But the media is fear-mongering, and it is not right.
No it isn't. Not when there is a deliberate disconnect between what he actually said and what is being attributed to him. Heck, you are doing the same thing. So is Ed.
Yes, it is. They are trying to misinpret what he says to make people afraid - so they won't vote for him. Comprende? And Donald Trump feeds into it with the way he rants.

Yeah, so blame them and not trump.

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

Personally, I find Trump to be a coward, plain and simple. He takes the most negative route for everything, and stirs up fear and anger and hate in his followers.

He would make a terrible president, plain and simple. We need someone to promote unity, not divide us further.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Read the OP. The little girl was afraid of being deported.
So what? Shes a little kid who doesn't understand the relevant politics--pretty much like EVERY OTHER eight year old.
So what? Eight-year-olds don't magically understand everything. She had a valid concern, imo.
flan

Her concern was not, in fact, valid. The fact that she didn't understand it doesn't make it valid, either. It's up to the parents to explain it, and this parent and those around her fed in to the medias blatant distortion and deliberate untruths.

huskerbb · Guru

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
Personally, I find Trump to be a coward, plain and simple. He takes the most negative route for everything, and stirs up fear and anger and hate in his followers.

He would make a terrible president, plain and simple. We need someone to promote unity, not divide us further.

The EXACT same things could be said about Obama--and he has eight years of a track record to show it. You are enslaved to the medias deliberate distortion of the truth, as well.

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

What Trump has said, his actual words are proof enoufh.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
I bet a lot of that girls fear comes from the propaganda coming from her own family's mouths.

Statements, that you call "propaganda," which they learned from bullies like Trump.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

This is just another ginned up story meant to promote some Dem agenda and narrative, like the War on Women and all that baloney.

huskerbb · Guru

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
What Trump has said, his actual words are proof enoufh.

What has he said that is so offensive? That we should protect our borders? That we shouldnt let terrorists into the country?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

It was the first time that it really drove home to me that we’re in a dangerous place right now," Melissa said

Uh huh. MOM is the one sending the "danger" signal. How is she "in a dangerous place right now"? Bullschit.

huskerbb · Guru

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I bet a lot of that girls fear comes from the propaganda coming from her own family's mouths.
Statements, that you call "propaganda," which they learned from bullies like Trump.
flan

They didn't learn anything from trump. he has been on the political scene only a few months. You are ridiculous. neither you or Dona can come up with one valid criticism.

TOTALLY GEEKED!

When Donald Trump's words scared this Muslim girl, these Army vets responded perfectly.

When Melissa Chance Yassini came home from work on Dec. 8, she found her daughter Sofia in tears.

Sofia had been watching the news with her grandmother, when she heard about Donald Trump's call to deport refugees and ban Muslims from entering America.

Melissa stayed up most of the night comforting and reassuring her daughter. Exhausted and frustrated, she posted about the experience on Facebook the next day.

The post caught the eye of Kerri Peek, an Army veteran from Colorado, who responded to Melissa a few days later.

Peek — who is Hispanic — told Upworthy that her heart broke reading Melissa's post, which reminded her of similar statements that have made her own family feel unwelcome.

Peek started a hashtag — #IWillProtectYou — and encouraged her fellow vets to respond. The messages of support began pouring in.

"I am not Muslim," veteran David Bruce wrote on Facebook, "But when anyone says the Army that I served with will go on to remove Muslims from my country, they'll have to take me too."

"Sweet girl, I am no longer in the Navy, but know you are protected," veteran Sarah Cullen wrote. "‪#‎IWillProtectYou‬ to the moon and back if necessary. Many hugs sent your way."

"We are Muslim, an Army family, and we will protect you," Aneesah Hydar wrote on Facebook.

As the responses continue to come in, Peek remains blown away — but not surprised — by her fellow vets' willingness to stand up to bigotry.

Melissa told Upworthy she is incredibly moved by the show of support for her daughter.

Most importantly, Sofia now knows there’s an army of her fellow Americans who have her back.