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Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

RE: When Donald Trump's words scared this Muslim girl, these Army vets responded perfectly.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I know I'll get flamed but she's a little girl. Yes, the parents should keep her away from tv. But we all know that it's unrealistic to keep kids away from the tv 100% of the time. Also, MANY MANY people are talking politics right now. Kids eavesdrop. It's normal. She's a little girl who got scared. It was nice of the soldiers to come to her defense.

She got "scared" because of MOM.

huskerbb · Guru

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
I know I'll get flamed but she's a little girl. Yes, the parents should keep her away from tv. But we all know that it's unrealistic to keep kids away from the tv 100% of the time. Also, MANY MANY people are talking politics right now. Kids eavesdrop. It's normal. She's a little girl who got scared. It was nice of the soldiers to come to her defense.

But this article doesn't talk about "many, many" people talking about politics. It talks about one--and assigns blame where none exists.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
It was the first time that it really drove home to me that we’re in a dangerous place right now," Melissa said

Uh huh. MOM is the one sending the "danger" signal. How is she "in a dangerous place right now"? Bullschit.

Really? The daughter had already interpreted the news that she watched BEFORE her mother came home.

Sofia had been watching the news with her grandmother, when she heard about Donald Trump's call to deport refugees and ban Muslims from entering America.

flan

Empyreal · Senior Member

huskerbb wrote:
A VERY disingenuous article. Trump has not suggested kicking any American citizens out of the country.

Heck, he hasn't even suggested kicking those non-citizens that are here LEGALLY out.

What he has said is that we should keep more Muslims from entering the country--and we should.

NO ONE on the globe has some unalienable right to enter the U.S. The U.S. has every right to set up whatever conditions it wants to for people to be able to enter. It would be beyond prudent to deny entry to those groups, nationalities, and citizens of those nations from which the vast majority of terrorists come from. It's obvious our current policies are wholly useless in preventing said terrorists from entering the country (see San Bernadino atrack and Boston Marathon bombing).

The fact that an eight year old girl doesn't understand the finer points of such political discourse is too bad--but then it's obvious that many adults don't, either.

Not only that, this little girl has never heard a word Trump said. She is being fed all of this from the adults in her life.

I have the news on all of the time and my kids couldn't tell you the names of the candidates or their stances on anything. If I was to stop them, sit them down and say, "Listen to the terrible things this person is saying!!!!" Then they would. These people are nuts to say their little kid is concerned about this crap. If she is, they are failing at parenting. Let her be a kid and stop filling her full of adult conversation and fear.

I could scare the hell out of my kids too if I told them about all of the ways our current president has destroyed our country. I could make them cry themselves to sleep tonight.

This is entirely made up to provoke people into thinking he is the next Hitler. His words have been spun into a big scary lie.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Empyreal wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
A VERY disingenuous article. Trump has not suggested kicking any American citizens out of the country.

Heck, he hasn't even suggested kicking those non-citizens that are here LEGALLY out.

What he has said is that we should keep more Muslims from entering the country--and we should.

NO ONE on the globe has some unalienable right to enter the U.S. The U.S. has every right to set up whatever conditions it wants to for people to be able to enter. It would be beyond prudent to deny entry to those groups, nationalities, and citizens of those nations from which the vast majority of terrorists come from. It's obvious our current policies are wholly useless in preventing said terrorists from entering the country (see San Bernadino atrack and Boston Marathon bombing).

The fact that an eight year old girl doesn't understand the finer points of such political discourse is too bad--but then it's obvious that many adults don't, either.
Not only that, this little girl has never heard a word Trump said. She is being fed all of this from the adults in her life.
I have the news on all of the time and my kids couldn't tell you the names of the candidates or their stances on anything. If I was to stop them, sit them down and say, "Listen to the terrible things this person is saying!!!!" Then they would. These people are nuts to say their little kid is concerned about this crap. If she is, they are failing at parenting. Let her be a kid and stop filling her full of adult conversation and fear.
I could scare the hell out of my kids too if I told them about all of the ways our current president has destroyed our country. I could make them cry themselves to sleep tonight.
This is entirely made up to provoke people into thinking he is the next Hitler. His words have been spun into a big scary lie.

SHE HEARD THE STORY ON THE NEWS.

Do you know how mature this little girl is? Nope.

No one that I know of has compared Trump to Hitler, but fan those flames & divide the country even more.

flan

Empyreal · Senior Member

And for all of the people comparing Trump to Hitler.

Really?!? Are you implying that the Jews where blowing up and threatening to kill everybody who denied their religious views? I would be much less sympathetic if that were the case... The Jews did not declare Jihad. They were truly peaceful and did not provoke people the way that the muslims have been for hundreds of years now. Patience is wearing thin.

Either speak out against it and reform or be lumped in as distrusted and unwelcome to get close to the rest of the peaceful people on this globe.

I don't see anything wrong with wanting to keep them the hell away from us. Excuse me for not wishing to be gunned down or blown up for you to reach your virgin paradise.

Empyreal · Senior Member

flan327 wrote:
Empyreal wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
A VERY disingenuous article. Trump has not suggested kicking any American citizens out of the country.

Heck, he hasn't even suggested kicking those non-citizens that are here LEGALLY out.

What he has said is that we should keep more Muslims from entering the country--and we should.

NO ONE on the globe has some unalienable right to enter the U.S. The U.S. has every right to set up whatever conditions it wants to for people to be able to enter. It would be beyond prudent to deny entry to those groups, nationalities, and citizens of those nations from which the vast majority of terrorists come from. It's obvious our current policies are wholly useless in preventing said terrorists from entering the country (see San Bernadino atrack and Boston Marathon bombing).

The fact that an eight year old girl doesn't understand the finer points of such political discourse is too bad--but then it's obvious that many adults don't, either.
Not only that, this little girl has never heard a word Trump said. She is being fed all of this from the adults in her life.
I have the news on all of the time and my kids couldn't tell you the names of the candidates or their stances on anything. If I was to stop them, sit them down and say, "Listen to the terrible things this person is saying!!!!" Then they would. These people are nuts to say their little kid is concerned about this crap. If she is, they are failing at parenting. Let her be a kid and stop filling her full of adult conversation and fear.
I could scare the hell out of my kids too if I told them about all of the ways our current president has destroyed our country. I could make them cry themselves to sleep tonight.
This is entirely made up to provoke people into thinking he is the next Hitler. His words have been spun into a big scary lie.
SHE HEARD THE STORY ON THE NEWS.
Do you know how mature this little girl is? Nope.
No one that I know of has compared Trump to Hitler, but fan those flames & divide the country even more.
flan

Nobody you know? Oh, okay. My mistake. No one is saying it then!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Well, usually the Conservatives here are up on ALL the cool insults...

flan

WYSIWYG · Guru

SHE HEARD THE STORY ON THE NEWS.

Do you know how mature this little girl is? Nope.
- flan327

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I disagree.

She didn't hear a story about US Citizens that are Muslim being deported anywhere nor said by anyone on any news site. She heard the stories of Trump wanting to remove the illegals that are here and not allowing Muslim non-citizens in, and combined that with some fear that she got from her family or other sources and came up with her "He's gonna deport us!" story on her own.

ed11563 · Guru

WYSIWYG wrote:
SHE HEARD THE STORY ON THE NEWS.

Do you know how mature this little girl is? Nope.
- flan327

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I disagree.

She didn't hear a story about US Citizens that are Muslim being deported anywhere nor said by anyone on any news site. She heard the stories of Trump wanting to remove the illegals that are here and not allowing Muslim non-citizens in, and combined that with some fear that she got from her family or other sources and came up with her "He's gonna deport us!" story on her own.

That's what happened to the Jews in Germany in the 1930's.

burns07 · Guru

That's what happened to the Jews in Germany in the 1930's.
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no. not even close.

Empyreal · Senior Member

flan327 wrote:
Well, usually the Conservatives here are up on ALL the cool insults...

flan

And it's the Democrats that stay up to date on all of the fabricated causes to fight for or cry about..

Empyreal · Senior Member

ed11563 wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:
SHE HEARD THE STORY ON THE NEWS.

Do you know how mature this little girl is? Nope.
- flan327

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I disagree.

She didn't hear a story about US Citizens that are Muslim being deported anywhere nor said by anyone on any news site. She heard the stories of Trump wanting to remove the illegals that are here and not allowing Muslim non-citizens in, and combined that with some fear that she got from her family or other sources and came up with her "He's gonna deport us!" story on her own.
That's what happened to the Jews in Germany in the 1930's.

Ed, buddy...

You think Hitler sent the Jews back to their home towns and told them to come back in a legal manner? You think he simply said we are going to put a "freeze" on allowing people into the country that seem to be intent on killing the population?

There are ZERO parallels to this.

Do you think it's wrong to put a halt on allowing Syrians into the country until we can be sure that there are no people with terrorist ties in the mix?

Do you think it is wrong for people who entered the country illegally to be sent back to their country of origin and then come in under compliance of law?

I ask these questions unrelated to Trump. I think he could refine the way he speaks about the issues but the facts remain and nobody else is speaking the truth clearly enough.

ed11563 · Guru

Empyreal wrote:
Ed, buddy...
You think Hitler sent the Jews back to their home towns and told them to come back in a legal manner? You think he simply said we are going to put a "freeze" on allowing people into the country that seem to be intent on killing the population?
There are ZERO parallels to this.
Do you think it's wrong to put a halt on allowing Syrians into the country until we can be sure that there are no people with terrorist ties in the mix?
Do you think it is wrong for people who entered the country illegally to be sent back to their country of origin and then come in under compliance of law?
I ask these questions unrelated to Trump. I think he could refine the way he speaks about the issues but the facts remain and nobody else is speaking the truth clearly enough.

What I think is ...

There's precedent that we should fear.

The current system of vetting refugees is long, and imperfect, but it's not going to allow tens of thousands of Syrians to just walk in and avoid scrutiny.

People who enter illegally should not be sent to their country of origin, they should be put on planes and dropped off in Afghanistan. If we start doing this, the flood of illegals will stop, because Afghanistan is worse than where ever they came from.

huskerbb · Guru

ed11563 wrote:
Empyreal wrote:
Ed, buddy...
You think Hitler sent the Jews back to their home towns and told them to come back in a legal manner? You think he simply said we are going to put a "freeze" on allowing people into the country that seem to be intent on killing the population?
There are ZERO parallels to this.
Do you think it's wrong to put a halt on allowing Syrians into the country until we can be sure that there are no people with terrorist ties in the mix?
Do you think it is wrong for people who entered the country illegally to be sent back to their country of origin and then come in under compliance of law?
I ask these questions unrelated to Trump. I think he could refine the way he speaks about the issues but the facts remain and nobody else is speaking the truth clearly enough.
What I think is ...
There's precedent that we should fear.
The current system of vetting refugees is long, and imperfect, but it's not going to allow tens of thousands of Syrians to just walk in and avoid scrutiny.
People who enter illegally should not be sent to their country of origin, they should be put on planes and dropped off in Afghanistan. If we start doing this, the flood of illegals will stop, because Afghanistan is worse than where ever they came from.

BS. The current process allows just that. How'd it work in San Bernadino or Boston?

huskerbb · Guru

burns07 wrote:

That's what happened to the Jews in Germany in the 1930's.
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no. not even close.

Not remotely. Jews in Germany had been there for centuries. They were citizens. Ed needs to learn some history.

Empyreal · Senior Member

ed11563 wrote:
Empyreal wrote:
Ed, buddy...
You think Hitler sent the Jews back to their home towns and told them to come back in a legal manner? You think he simply said we are going to put a "freeze" on allowing people into the country that seem to be intent on killing the population?
There are ZERO parallels to this.
Do you think it's wrong to put a halt on allowing Syrians into the country until we can be sure that there are no people with terrorist ties in the mix?
Do you think it is wrong for people who entered the country illegally to be sent back to their country of origin and then come in under compliance of law?
I ask these questions unrelated to Trump. I think he could refine the way he speaks about the issues but the facts remain and nobody else is speaking the truth clearly enough.
What I think is ...
There's precedent that we should fear.
The current system of vetting refugees is long, and imperfect, but it's not going to allow tens of thousands of Syrians to just walk in and avoid scrutiny.
People who enter illegally should not be sent to their country of origin, they should be put on planes and dropped off in Afghanistan. If we start doing this, the flood of illegals will stop, because Afghanistan is worse than where ever they came from.

You are way more mean and hard lined than Trump, Ed.

I like it!

Empyreal · Senior Member

huskerbb wrote:
burns07 wrote:

That's what happened to the Jews in Germany in the 1930's.
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no. not even close.
Not remotely. Jews in Germany had been there for centuries. They were citizens. Ed needs to learn some history.

And they weren't beheading people and suicide bombing in the name of Jihad...

The Jews did not declare war on Germany.

The Muslims are declaring war on the entire portion of the world that participates in Western civilization.

BIG HUGE DIFFERENCE.

They can't be trusted and we are idiots to allow them to infiltrate our society when they have been plotting for years to have that type of access to innocent people within our society to kill in the name of Jihad.

How can anybody pretend this isn't a threat? WAKE UP!!!!