What do you PROPOSE flan to make someone understand they DESERVE help?
WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE???
You don't honestly think she is going to answer you, do you? She just wants you to feel pity and leave them alone.
You're more intelligent than that.
flan
That is pretty much exactly what you've said, flan. That the rest of us just need to feel compassion.
I feel compassion - mainly for the family members who have to deal with people who won't get treatment even when begged. It's no different than dealing with an addict that won't go to rehab.
Compassion is just one part.
flan
Well, then, what exactly are people supposed to DO if the person won't get help?
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
What do you PROPOSE flan to make someone understand they DESERVE help?
WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE???
WHAT DOES IT MATTER? EVERYONE HERE KNOWS MORE THAN I DO.
flan
If what you have done to date hasn't really done anything, perhaps you need to examine that possibility. All your wisdom and knowledge on this subject doesn't seem to have made much difference.
What the HELL are you talking about?
I am happy, I have a good job that I love & I am a fantastic librarian & storyteller. I have friends, my sons love me...
flan
Oh, so people with depression CAN get better. I'm so confused.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
And you know what? Some people who are "depressed" do not have depression. Depression is an illness, not a mood. People with depression need help and the care of a physician and the support of their family. They need medication and counseling.
People who are moody often do it selfishly to make themselves the center of attention. Sometimes, it's easy to tell the difference. They can get out of bed to do what they want to do, but not for what anyone else wants them to do. They can go to work, go on vacation, but be too "depressed" to go to a holiday party. That's NOT depression and it MOCKS those that actually suffer from depression.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Quote where I mocked you. Just about all of my posts have had to do with dealing with my sister. This will just be your new excuse as to why you spend so much time insulting me then saying it's the other way around. All your friends will run to your defense instead of actually reading what's being said and by whom.
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“Until I discovered cooking, I was never really interested in anything.” ― Julia Child ―
And you know what? Some people who are "depressed" do not have depression. Depression is an illness, not a mood. People with depression need help and the care of a physician and the support of their family. They need medication and counseling.
People who are moody often do it selfishly to make themselves the center of attention. Sometimes, it's easy to tell the difference. They can get out of bed to do what they want to do, but not for what anyone else wants them to do. They can go to work, go on vacation, but be too "depressed" to go to a holiday party. That's NOT depression and it MOCKS those that actually suffer from depression.
Yes, I realized that I have hijacked this thread.
And I agree 100% with this statement. It's similar to the way the term "bullying" gets over-used.
Part of the problem with depression is "all or nothing thinking" as well. There is a mindset that whenever you don't feel happy, that somehow you failed. That you aren't "fixed" until you feel happy all time. That somehow something is wrong with you to feel the way you do. However, you can embrace your feelings. That isn't wrong. The real issue isn't the feelings themselves. We feel however we feel. The real issue is that those feelings interfere with our actions. That we want to FEEL good before we DO. And, i am here to say, that in order to FEEL good, you need to DO things that make you feel good. I don't always FEEL like doing what is right and good. I don't always FEEL like doing the daily chores of taking care of my family and making their lives better. When you DO better you will FEEL better. When you get up and clean your house and do your dishes and water your plant and bake cookies you will FEEL better as result of your DO.
So, yes, indulge your feelings. Sit down for a half hour or an hour and truly feel those feelings. But, then what? Will it be fruitful for you to do that for the next 10 hours? Will that advance your life? No, it won't. So allow yourself that half and then GET UP.
What do you PROPOSE flan to make someone understand they DESERVE help?
WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE???
WHAT DOES IT MATTER? EVERYONE HERE KNOWS MORE THAN I DO.
flan
If what you have done to date hasn't really done anything, perhaps you need to examine that possibility. All your wisdom and knowledge on this subject doesn't seem to have made much difference.
What the HELL are you talking about?
I am happy, I have a good job that I love & I am a fantastic librarian & storyteller. I have friends, my sons love me...
flan
?????? You've been talking this entire thread about how depressed you are. If you aren't depressed, then what are you arguing about?
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
What do you PROPOSE flan to make someone understand they DESERVE help?
WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE???
WHAT DOES IT MATTER? EVERYONE HERE KNOWS MORE THAN I DO.
flan
If what you have done to date hasn't really done anything, perhaps you need to examine that possibility. All your wisdom and knowledge on this subject doesn't seem to have made much difference.
What the HELL are you talking about?
I am happy, I have a good job that I love & I am a fantastic librarian & storyteller. I have friends, my sons love me...
flan
?????? You've been talking this entire thread about how depressed you are. If you aren't depressed, then what are you arguing about?
You are the one acting all victimized. How do you deal with real life when people disagree with you? Do you put on your pouty face and act like a baby?
What do you PROPOSE flan to make someone understand they DESERVE help?
WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE???
WHAT DOES IT MATTER? EVERYONE HERE KNOWS MORE THAN I DO.
flan
If what you have done to date hasn't really done anything, perhaps you need to examine that possibility. All your wisdom and knowledge on this subject doesn't seem to have made much difference.
What the HELL are you talking about?
I am happy, I have a good job that I love & I am a fantastic librarian & storyteller. I have friends, my sons love me...
flan
?????? You've been talking this entire thread about how depressed you are. If you aren't depressed, then what are you arguing about?
WERE, husker, WERE
flan
Then why have you not opened your SS gifts? That seems like a depressed person to me...
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You are the one acting all victimized. How do you deal with real life when people disagree with you? Do you put on your pouty face and act like a baby?
Let's see...THERE'S A compliment!
flan
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Yes and I answered you. Funny how everyone else can say the same thing and you're fine with it.
That is a good point. Husker said the same things flan. You rarely call him out.
I call him out ALL the time. But let's defend the poor victimized ____.
flan
It was in answer to this post so who was actually mocking someone flan. Do you ever own anything you say or do? This is a serious question which I know you will not answer.
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“Until I discovered cooking, I was never really interested in anything.” ― Julia Child ―
Yes. There is a huge difference between clinical and situational depression.
And situational depression can last long enough to become clinical.
What I went through and still struggle with at times is my battle.
What flan struggles with is her battle.
What Tinydancer's sister struggles with is her battle.
Each person has their own battle to fight.
It isn't a one size fits all dianosis.
What does make a huge difference is how each individual fights.
I have always been very good at knowing and understanding my body and recognizing my swings. And I have developed sound battle strategies to combat the bad and enjoy the good.
Some are not as aware and find themselves in the thick of it before they realize what is going on.
Others just like living in it.
For me, I cant. I don't like it. I fight it because I can't stand that feeling of helplessness. Of hopelessness. I fight.
And I make a choice daily. Do I wallow or do I move?
It may be the simple task of taking a shower that gets me moving again. Or opening a window.
But I know if I do nothing, I will sink deeper.
Plenty of people will tell me "exercise is good for your arthritis" and that's true. The more your move, the better it gets.
But the same is true for depression. I don't mean sit ups or jumping jacks. I mean moving forward.
You feel like sitting in the dark? Turn on a light, open a curtain.
You feel like staying in your pjs? Get dressed.
You feel like binge watching sad movies? Go outside and watch the birds.
I know it isn't about "just get over it". It's about don't just do nothing.
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What do you PROPOSE flan to make someone understand they DESERVE help?
WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE???
WHAT DOES IT MATTER? EVERYONE HERE KNOWS MORE THAN I DO.
flan
If what you have done to date hasn't really done anything, perhaps you need to examine that possibility. All your wisdom and knowledge on this subject doesn't seem to have made much difference.
What the HELL are you talking about?
I am happy, I have a good job that I love & I am a fantastic librarian & storyteller. I have friends, my sons love me...
flan
?????? You've been talking this entire thread about how depressed you are. If you aren't depressed, then what are you arguing about?
WERE, husker, WERE
flan
Then why have you not opened your SS gifts? That seems like a depressed person to me...
What ARE you blathering about? Is that supposed to be a joke???
flan doesn't have to play nice. We've all learned that.
Oh, look! Another insult...
flan
LOL! Flan, you're one of the most insulting people here. Especially towards Lily and TD. You dish out so many insults of your own that you need not be butthurt when you get some back. Never mind that what TD said was an observation, not an insult. Do you need a waaaaahmbulance?
flan doesn't have to play nice. We've all learned that.
Oh, look! Another insult...
flan
LOL! Flan, you're one of the most insulting people here. Especially towards Lily and TD. You dish out so many insults of your own that you need not be butthurt when you get some back. Never mind that what TD said was an observation, not an insult. Do you need a waaaaahmbulance?
I can always count on you to chime in. Do you actually think I care?
flan doesn't have to play nice. We've all learned that.
Oh, look! Another insult...
flan
LOL! Flan, you're one of the most insulting people here. Especially towards Lily and TD. You dish out so many insults of your own that you need not be butthurt when you get some back. Never mind that what TD said was an observation, not an insult. Do you need a waaaaahmbulance?
I can always count on you to chime in. Do you actually think I care?
flan
Of course not. If you did care about how you present yourself to people and the impressions you give people, you wouldn't be so rude to Lily, TD, and others.
This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about, Flan. You get all offended when you perceive a comment as insulting you but care not one whit that you insult others.
If she was such a good person, she wouldn't go out of her way to insult certain posters. Good people do not routinely insult people.
There's no dogpile. I simply find it laughable that she views TD's comments as insulting yet she has dished out so much worse and for no reason other than she just doesn't like some posters.
This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about, Flan. You get all offended when you perceive a comment as insulting you but care not one whit that you insult others.
I know what you're talking about, I just DON'T care.
And that was an OBSERVATION...just like you claimed innocent TD was just observing...
She doesnt insult anyone. She's a wonderful lady. We dont always see eye to eye but she's a true friend.
Really?
Wow. Ok.
Are we on the same board here?
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.