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How Anti-Evolution Bills Have Evolved

Creationists provide an example of descent with modification.

 
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The camouflage was impeccable. With the name “Louisiana Science Education Act,” the bill posed as a document on the side of truth and science. By claiming to promote “critical thinking skills, logical analysis, and open and objective discussion of scientific theories,” it seemed to endorse levelheaded rationality. And by denying that it sought to “promote any religious doctrine,” it cleverly deflected accusations of being an effort to replace the teaching of evolution with the religious beliefs of creationism—which is, of course, exactly what the bill was.

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In reality, the Louisiana Science Education Act sought to undermine science education in the most insidious way: by giving teachers the authority to teach religious materials in class as an alternative to the scientific theory of evolution. Unfortunately, it worked. By avoiding any mention of creationism and encouraging a “critical analysis” of evolution, the bill skirted claims that it would violate the U.S. Constitution by encouraging the teaching of religious doctrine. In 2008, it was successfully passed by the state senate and signed into law by Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal.

But how did creationists think of such a perfect way to frame their anti-science agenda? You might think that such a bill came into this world fully formed, like Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. But actually, it had a predecessor. An ancestor, you might even call it.

In what is almost a too-clever illustration of how evolution works, a scientist at Australian National University has created a chart to show us the evolution of anti-evolution bills. The study was published last week in Science, on the 10th anniversary of the historic Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial, which struck down the teaching of intelligent design, an attempt to mask creationism with pseudo-scientific language. Evolutionary biologist Nick Matzke revealed how these bills have evolved over time to avoid potential predators such as the pesky Constitution and public outcry.

His conclusion: These bills are an example of descent with modification. We can only assume that Darwin is rolling in his grave.

Matzke’s original phylogenetic tree of anti-evolution legislationNick Matzke’s original phylogenetic tree of anti-evolution legislation.

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To make the chart, Matzke performed a phylogenetic analysis, tracking the language in 65 bills since 2004 that have sought to limit or oppose the teaching of evolution. He found that these bills had been directly reproduced with a few mutations and modifications. For the most part, all employed the seemingly reasonable-sounding strategy of encouraging educators to “teach the controversy.” Shocker: It’s the same technique that has been used in bills that oppose the teaching of climate change.

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Matzke’s analysis shows that, since the Kitzmiller v. Dover case, these types of efforts unfortunately haven’t died out and been replaced with a robust evolution curriculum. Instead, they’ve simply evolved themselves—becoming sneakier, subtler, and altogether more malicious in their attempts to undermine science education. The Louisiana Science Education Act, for instance, inspired similar bills in Tennessee (known as the “monkey bill”), Indiana, and Oklahoma. (Only the Tennessee one passed.)

While these bills are sneaky, Matzke’s handy chart shows that it’s possible to find the common roots of these sorts of anti-science efforts. In his words: “They are not terribly intelligently designed.” So thank you, Dr. Matzke, for revealing these bills for what they truly are: religion in disguise. And thank you, creationists, for providing a robust teaching tool for a theory you claim does not exist.

 



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The camouflage was impeccable. With the name “Louisiana Science Education Act,” the bill posed as a document on the side of truth and science. By claiming to promote “critical thinking skills, logical analysis, and open and objective discussion of scientific theories,” it seemed to endorse levelheaded rationality. And by denying that it sought to “promote any religious doctrine,” it cleverly deflected accusations of being an effort to replace the teaching of evolution with the religious beliefs of creationism—which is, of course, exactly what the bill was.

 

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The Texas GOP's declarative position against critical thinking in public schools, or any schools, for that matter, is now an official part of their political platform. It is public record in the Republican Party of Texas 2012 platform. With regard to critical thinking, the Republican Party of Texas document states: "Knowledge-Based Education - We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student's fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority." (page 20, Republican Party of Texas, 2012).

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It really freaks out the Left when their DOCTRINES and DOGMA are not taught 100%.

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lord, let's pick and choose small paragraphs out of rather large works, take them out of context, presume rather than comprehend fully and then state opinions as fact


 Um, yeah, thats sums up liberals to a tee...



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Nobody was there at the beginning. It was a one time event, no recreateable in a lab. Sooo, there.

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And after reading the Texas GOP position, I 100% agree.

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I don't see the problem.

Critical thinking.

More often than not, the science proves creation.



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I don't see the problem.

Critical thinking.

More often than not, the science proves creation.


 Does it, now?   Any proof?



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Looks like science proves evolution, not creation.
mic.com/articles/125103/homo-naledi-found-in-south-africa-may-be-humanity-s-missing-link



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 27th of December 2015 06:44:35 PM

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Looks like science proves evolution, not creation.
mic.com/articles/125103/homo-naledi-found-in-south-africa-may-be-humanity-s-missing-link



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 27th of December 2015 06:44:35 PM


 Don't confuse them with facts...It makes their poor little brains hurt.

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weltschmerz wrote:

Looks like science proves evolution, not creation.
mic.com/articles/125103/homo-naledi-found-in-south-africa-may-be-humanity-s-missing-link



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 27th of December 2015 06:44:35 PM


 Hahahaha!  So MAY in your world equals proof? And you wonder why people laugh and roll their eyes at you...

Evolution is still a theory, whether you choose to believe that or not. 



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Yeah. Practical proof.

Watch any pond, lake, mud puddle. You will never see a person walk out of it.

Go to any delivery room. Little humans are born.

The only place two single cells can create a human is inside the womb.



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flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:

Looks like science proves evolution, not creation.
mic.com/articles/125103/homo-naledi-found-in-south-africa-may-be-humanity-s-missing-link



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 27th of December 2015 06:44:35 PM


 Don't confuse them with facts...It makes their poor little brains hurt.

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 Only in little brains does "may" equal proof. 



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lord, let's pick and choose small paragraphs out of rather large works, take them out of context, presume rather than comprehend fully and then state opinions as fact


 Um, yeah, thats sums up liberals to a tee...


 Something Conservatives are never EVER guilty of...

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Yeah. Practical proof.

Watch any pond, lake, mud puddle. You will never see a person walk out of it.

Go to any delivery room. Little humans are born.

The only place two single cells can create a human is inside the womb.


 Ha, ha, ha! That's not scientific proof.  You said SCIENTIFIC proof.

Babies and rainbows and puppy dog tails aren't scientific proof,. mon ami.



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Yeah. Practical proof.

Watch any pond, lake, mud puddle. You will never see a person walk out of it.

Go to any delivery room. Little humans are born.

The only place two single cells can create a human is inside the womb.


 That's NOT what evolution is, dearie.

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Yeah. Practical proof.

Watch any pond, lake, mud puddle. You will never see a person walk out of it.

Go to any delivery room. Little humans are born.

The only place two single cells can create a human is inside the womb.


 Ha, ha, ha! That's not scientific proof.  You said SCIENTIFIC proof.

Babies and rainbows and puppy dog tails aren't scientific proof,. mon ami.


 No? Why? 

Are you saying you've seen nothing become something on its own? 

I've never seen an ameba become anything other than what it is.

I live really close to several rivers, ponds and lakes.

The frogs and turtles are the only things to ever climb out of them.

So where is your proof? Can you prove creation didn't happen?



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Ohfour wrote:
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Looks like science proves evolution, not creation.
mic.com/articles/125103/homo-naledi-found-in-south-africa-may-be-humanity-s-missing-link



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 27th of December 2015 06:44:35 PM


 Don't confuse them with facts...It makes their poor little brains hurt.

flan


 Only in little brains does "may" equal proof. 


How's this? Ooh, I know!!

Satan himself put it there, to confuse us!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/09/150910-human-evolution-change/

 

 



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There is no proof. Keep on with it. It just makes you look ignorant.

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lilyofcourse wrote:
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Yeah. Practical proof.

Watch any pond, lake, mud puddle. You will never see a person walk out of it.

Go to any delivery room. Little humans are born.

The only place two single cells can create a human is inside the womb.


 Ha, ha, ha! That's not scientific proof.  You said SCIENTIFIC proof.

Babies and rainbows and puppy dog tails aren't scientific proof,. mon ami.


 No? Why? 

Are you saying you've seen nothing become something on its own? 

I've never seen an ameba become anything other than what it is.

I live really close to several rivers, ponds and lakes.

The frogs and turtles are the only things to ever climb out of them.

So where is your proof? Can you prove creation didn't happen?


 Oh, good Lord!!! You DO know it takes millions of years, right?

Am amoeba won't change in front of your very eyes!!



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Their "poof" is the "Proof""! LMAO!!!

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Their "poof" is the "Proof""! LMAO!!!


 Right? Its actually funny...



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"I never saw an ameba change" is probably the most absurd thing I've ever heard,

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Yeah. Practical proof.

Watch any pond, lake, mud puddle. You will never see a person walk out of it.

Go to any delivery room. Little humans are born.

The only place two single cells can create a human is inside the womb.


 Ha, ha, ha! That's not scientific proof.  You said SCIENTIFIC proof.

Babies and rainbows and puppy dog tails aren't scientific proof,. mon ami.


 No? Why? 

Are you saying you've seen nothing become something on its own? 

I've never seen an ameba become anything other than what it is.

I live really close to several rivers, ponds and lakes.

The frogs and turtles are the only things to ever climb out of them.

So where is your proof? Can you prove creation didn't happen?


 Oh, good Lord!!! You DO know it takes millions of years, right?

Am amoeba won't change in front of your very eyes!!


  Yes.  A penis evolved and then a vagina simultaneously evolved and they just happened to crawl out of the primordial soup at the same time and tripped and fell and landed on one another and POOF the human race was born! 



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You have no scientific proof. Since creation was a one time event, you don't have a DAMN thing.

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weltschmerz wrote:
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weltschmerz wrote:

Looks like science proves evolution, not creation.
mic.com/articles/125103/homo-naledi-found-in-south-africa-may-be-humanity-s-missing-link



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 27th of December 2015 06:44:35 PM


 Don't confuse them with facts...It makes their poor little brains hurt.

flan


 Only in little brains does "may" equal proof. 


How's this? Ooh, I know!!

Satan himself put it there, to confuse us!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/09/150910-human-evolution-change/

 

 

Hahaha! This article again uses "may" and "possible". If thats your proof , I've got a bridge to sell you. I dont think that word means what you think it does. You should look it up...

-- Edited by weltschmerz on Sunday 27th of December 2015 07:12:23 PM


 



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Yeah. Practical proof.

Watch any pond, lake, mud puddle. You will never see a person walk out of it.

Go to any delivery room. Little humans are born.

The only place two single cells can create a human is inside the womb.


 Ha, ha, ha! That's not scientific proof.  You said SCIENTIFIC proof.

Babies and rainbows and puppy dog tails aren't scientific proof,. mon ami.


 No? Why? 

Are you saying you've seen nothing become something on its own? 

I've never seen an ameba become anything other than what it is.

I live really close to several rivers, ponds and lakes.

The frogs and turtles are the only things to ever climb out of them.

So where is your proof? Can you prove creation didn't happen?


 Oh, good Lord!!! You DO know it takes millions of years, right?

Am amoeba won't change in front of your very eyes!!


  Yes.  A penis evolved and then a vagina simultaneously evolved and they just happened to crawl out of the primordial soup at the same time and tripped and fell and landed on one another and POOF the human race was born! 


 You think that'a what evolution is? OK, keep saying that,  preferably under the cloak of anonymity



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weltschmerz wrote:

"I never saw an ameba change" is probably the most absurd thing I've ever heard,


 Well, there you go! Evolution DISPROVED!

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There is no proof. Keep on with it. It just makes you look ignorant.


 No, welts is FAR from ignorant.

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"I never saw an ameba change" is probably the most absurd thing I've ever heard,


 Well, there you go! Evolution DISPROVED!

flan


 And we didn't even correct the spelling...

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There is no proof. Keep on with it. It just makes you look ignorant.


 No, welts is FAR from ignorant.

flan


 Well, she looks ignorant when she keeps saying there is proof of evolution, yet there is no proof. Science is still trying to prove it. Thats not debated...



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There is no proof. Keep on with it. It just makes you look ignorant.


 No, welts is FAR from ignorant.

flan


 Well, she looks ignorant when she keeps saying there is proof of evolution, yet there is no proof. Science is still trying to prove it. Thats not debated...


 You look ignorant whan you keep saying there is proof of creation, yet there is no proof.

See how that works?



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weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Yeah. Practical proof.

Watch any pond, lake, mud puddle. You will never see a person walk out of it.

Go to any delivery room. Little humans are born.

The only place two single cells can create a human is inside the womb.


 Ha, ha, ha! That's not scientific proof.  You said SCIENTIFIC proof.

Babies and rainbows and puppy dog tails aren't scientific proof,. mon ami.


 No? Why? 

Are you saying you've seen nothing become something on its own? 

I've never seen an ameba become anything other than what it is.

I live really close to several rivers, ponds and lakes.

The frogs and turtles are the only things to ever climb out of them.

So where is your proof? Can you prove creation didn't happen?


 Oh, good Lord!!! You DO know it takes millions of years, right?

Am amoeba won't change in front of your very eyes!!


  Yes.  A penis evolved and then a vagina simultaneously evolved and they just happened to crawl out of the primordial soup at the same time and tripped and fell and landed on one another and POOF the human race was born! 


 You think that'a what evolution is? OK, keep saying that,  preferably under the cloak of anonymity


 Show me your "evidence" of that.



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weltschmerz wrote:
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There is no proof. Keep on with it. It just makes you look ignorant.


 No, welts is FAR from ignorant.

flan


 Well, she looks ignorant when she keeps saying there is proof of evolution, yet there is no proof. Science is still trying to prove it. Thats not debated...


 You look ignorant whan you keep saying there is proof of creation, yet there is no proof.

See how that works?


 I never said there was proof. I said that's what i believe based on my faith. I dont know any creationists that claim proof.



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There is no proof. Keep on with it. It just makes you look ignorant.


 No, welts is FAR from ignorant.

flan


 Well, she looks ignorant when she keeps saying there is proof of evolution, yet there is no proof. Science is still trying to prove it. Thats not debated...


 You look ignorant whan you keep saying there is proof of creation, yet there is no proof.

See how that works?


 Yes, there was this vast void of NOTHING.  And, THEN there was Everything.  Something which Christians and believers can explain but YOU cannot.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

There is no proof. Keep on with it. It just makes you look ignorant.


 No, welts is FAR from ignorant.

flan


 Well, she looks ignorant when she keeps saying there is proof of evolution, yet there is no proof. Science is still trying to prove it. Thats not debated...


 You look ignorant whan you keep saying there is proof of creation, yet there is no proof.

See how that works?


 Yes, there was this vast void of NOTHING.  And, THEN there was Everything.  Something which Christians and believers can explain but YOU cannot.


 Of course you can explain it. A magical wizard spoke some words and POOF the universe came into being.! The same magical being that demands worship and obedience or he'll punish you, like a celestial Kim Jong Un.

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lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
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Yeah. Practical proof.

Watch any pond, lake, mud puddle. You will never see a person walk out of it.

Go to any delivery room. Little humans are born.

The only place two single cells can create a human is inside the womb.


 Ha, ha, ha! That's not scientific proof.  You said SCIENTIFIC proof.

Babies and rainbows and puppy dog tails aren't scientific proof,. mon ami.


 No? Why? 

Are you saying you've seen nothing become something on its own? 

I've never seen an ameba become anything other than what it is.

I live really close to several rivers, ponds and lakes.

The frogs and turtles are the only things to ever climb out of them.

So where is your proof? Can you prove creation didn't happen?


 Oh, good Lord!!! You DO know it takes millions of years, right?

Am amoeba won't change in front of your very eyes!!


 No? So there is no transitioning ameba?

No in between to offer any proof? 

Takes just 18 days for baby's heart to start beating, 21 to pump blood through a closed circulatory system.

So creation bests evolution. 

 



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Even evolutionists had to invent "punctuated Evolution" to try to explain the sudden appearance of life, lol.

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lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Yeah. Practical proof.

Watch any pond, lake, mud puddle. You will never see a person walk out of it.

Go to any delivery room. Little humans are born.

The only place two single cells can create a human is inside the womb.


 Ha, ha, ha! That's not scientific proof.  You said SCIENTIFIC proof.

Babies and rainbows and puppy dog tails aren't scientific proof,. mon ami.


 No? Why? 

Are you saying you've seen nothing become something on its own? 

I've never seen an ameba become anything other than what it is.

I live really close to several rivers, ponds and lakes.

The frogs and turtles are the only things to ever climb out of them.

So where is your proof? Can you prove creation didn't happen?


 Oh, good Lord!!! You DO know it takes millions of years, right?

Am amoeba won't change in front of your very eyes!!


 No? So there is no transitioning ameba?

No in between to offer any proof? 

Takes just 18 days for baby's heart to start beating, 21 to pump blood through a closed circulatory system.

So creation bests evolution. 

 


 You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Because a baby's heart starts beating at 18 days, you expect an amoeba to turn into a different life form in front of your very eyes?

ROTFLMAO! And who said they wanted to end critical thinking in schools? Clearly, that ship has sailed a long time ago.



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Yeah. Practical proof.

Watch any pond, lake, mud puddle. You will never see a person walk out of it.

Go to any delivery room. Little humans are born.

The only place two single cells can create a human is inside the womb.


 Ha, ha, ha! That's not scientific proof.  You said SCIENTIFIC proof.

Babies and rainbows and puppy dog tails aren't scientific proof,. mon ami.


 No? Why? 

Are you saying you've seen nothing become something on its own? 

I've never seen an ameba become anything other than what it is.

I live really close to several rivers, ponds and lakes.

The frogs and turtles are the only things to ever climb out of them.

So where is your proof? Can you prove creation didn't happen?


 Oh, good Lord!!! You DO know it takes millions of years, right?

Am amoeba won't change in front of your very eyes!!


 No? So there is no transitioning ameba?

No in between to offer any proof? 

Takes just 18 days for baby's heart to start beating, 21 to pump blood through a closed circulatory system.

So creation bests evolution. 

 


 welts, can you translate this?

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Which makes NO SENSE from your 'millions and millions' nonsense. When did the PENIS and the VAGINA come into being? Funny how you jump from a sinlge cell to chimps. Uh huh.

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flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Yeah. Practical proof.

Watch any pond, lake, mud puddle. You will never see a person walk out of it.

Go to any delivery room. Little humans are born.

The only place two single cells can create a human is inside the womb.


 Ha, ha, ha! That's not scientific proof.  You said SCIENTIFIC proof.

Babies and rainbows and puppy dog tails aren't scientific proof,. mon ami.


 No? Why? 

Are you saying you've seen nothing become something on its own? 

I've never seen an ameba become anything other than what it is.

I live really close to several rivers, ponds and lakes.

The frogs and turtles are the only things to ever climb out of them.

So where is your proof? Can you prove creation didn't happen?


 Oh, good Lord!!! You DO know it takes millions of years, right?

Am amoeba won't change in front of your very eyes!!


 No? So there is no transitioning ameba?

No in between to offer any proof? 

Takes just 18 days for baby's heart to start beating, 21 to pump blood through a closed circulatory system.

So creation bests evolution. 

 


 welts, can you translate this?

flan


 I'm sorry, but I cannot. I may be a polyglot, but that's gibberish in any language.



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If it only takes 18 days for a heart to start beating after two cells merge creating anot her life, then why can't two cells in a pond merge and have a beating heart in a mere 2000 years?


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Waiting Welts.....

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If it only takes 18 days for a heart to start beating after two cells merge creating anot her life, then why can't two cells in a pond merge and have a beating heart in a mere 2000 years?


 What?

Did you study science, or were you home-schooled?



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I must bid adieu...before I start screaming...

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No one will convince a True Believer that the Creation story in The Bible isn't literally true.

No True Believer will convince someone who believes in Evolution that they (we) are wrong.

 

Isn't it fun playing though?

 



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Oh I went to both private and public.

And you still can not answer why two cells in a pond can't create a beating heart at some point in the last 2000 years.



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Penis and vagina welts. When and where? And, why? If a cell can simply divide without help, why bother?

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