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Ed, I'm not trying to convince anyone.

I'm asking questions. Looking for, waiting for, one of you to provide the proof. The reasoning.

Can you answer my question?

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Oh I went to both private and public.

And you still can not answer why two cells in a pond can't create a beating heart at some point in the last 2000 years.


 Nor can she explain how eyes, ears or anything else.  Except to say "millions and millions of years"  Well, the human body would not survive over millions and millions.  All of those things have to occur simultaneously.  Oh, and just IGNORE the FACT that it takes LIFE to beget LIFE.  Pretend otherwise.  Uh huh.



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Oh I went to both private and public.

And you still can not answer why two cells in a pond can't create a beating heart at some point in the last 2000 years.


 BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 2000 YEARS!!



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Oh I went to both private and public.

And you still can not answer why two cells in a pond can't create a beating heart at some point in the last 2000 years.


 BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 2000 YEARS!!


 Oh, sorry Lilly.  She will get back to you in 10 million years!  Bwaahhhh!!!



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Ed, I'm not trying to convince anyone.

I'm asking questions. Looking for, waiting for, one of you to provide the proof. The reasoning.

Can you answer my question?


Do you believe that Dinosaurs walked on Earth before humans?

How do you think the fossils came to be?

 



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Ed, I'm not trying to convince anyone.

I'm asking questions. Looking for, waiting for, one of you to provide the proof. The reasoning.

Can you answer my question?


Do you believe that Dinosaurs walked on Earth before humans?

How do you think the fossils came to be?

 


 I think Dinosaurs existed WITH humans.  Fossils, what's your point?



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Oh I went to both private and public.

And you still can not answer why two cells in a pond can't create a beating heart at some point in the last 2000 years.


 Nor can she explain how eyes, ears or anything else.  Except to say "millions and millions of years"  Well, the human body would not survive over millions and millions.  All of those things have to occur simultaneously.  Oh, and just IGNORE the FACT that it takes LIFE to beget LIFE.  Pretend otherwise.  Uh huh.


NONE OF YOU ARE MAKING A LICK OF SENSE!

Evolution of the eye.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/01/1/l_011_01.html

http://www.detectingdesign.com/humaneye.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_eye

 

 



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weltschmerz wrote:
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Oh I went to both private and public.

And you still can not answer why two cells in a pond can't create a beating heart at some point in the last 2000 years.


 BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 2000 YEARS!!


 So in 2000 years, there has been no proof that evolution actually happened.

It's all conjecture and supposition. 

"Could have", "might have", "possibility".

But you want to mock and kill the actual creation of a child in utero. A progression of two cells actually forming a whole, working and functioning being.

Creation always bests evolution. 



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ed11563 wrote:
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Ed, I'm not trying to convince anyone.

I'm asking questions. Looking for, waiting for, one of you to provide the proof. The reasoning.

Can you answer my question?


Do you believe that Dinosaurs walked on Earth before humans?

How do you think the fossils came to be?

 


 Yes. There were dinosaurs. What an odd question. 

And what do fossils have to do with anything?



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lilyofcourse wrote:

Oh I went to both private and public.

And you still can not answer why two cells in a pond can't create a beating heart at some point in the last 2000 years.


 Nor can she explain how eyes, ears or anything else.  Except to say "millions and millions of years"  Well, the human body would not survive over millions and millions.  All of those things have to occur simultaneously.  Oh, and just IGNORE the FACT that it takes LIFE to beget LIFE.  Pretend otherwise.  Uh huh.


NONE OF YOU ARE MAKING A LICK OF SENSE!

Evolution of the eye.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/01/1/l_011_01.html

http://www.detectingdesign.com/humaneye.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_eye

 

 



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 The eye is developed in utero. Stem cells.

However. An eye will not evolve out of nothing. 

 



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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lilyofcourse wrote:

Oh I went to both private and public.

And you still can not answer why two cells in a pond can't create a beating heart at some point in the last 2000 years.


 BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 2000 YEARS!!


 So in 2000 years, there has been no proof that evolution actually happened.

It's all conjecture and supposition. 

"Could have", "might have", "possibility".

But you want to mock and kill the actual creation of a child in utero. A progression of two cells actually forming a whole, working and functioning being.

Creation always bests evolution. 


 Agian, I have no idea what you`re babbling about. Evidently, you don`t have a handle on this evolution thing.

Maybe you should read something besides the bible.



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Maybe you should try reading the Bible.

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Maybe you should try reading the Bible.


 Read it. Several times.  Also read the Talmud, The Tibetan Book of the Dead and the Vedas.



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weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Oh I went to both private and public.

And you still can not answer why two cells in a pond can't create a beating heart at some point in the last 2000 years.


 BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 2000 YEARS!!


 So in 2000 years, there has been no proof that evolution actually happened.

It's all conjecture and supposition. 

"Could have", "might have", "possibility".

But you want to mock and kill the actual creation of a child in utero. A progression of two cells actually forming a whole, working and functioning being.

Creation always bests evolution. 


 Agian, I have no idea what you`re babbling about. Evidently, you don`t have a handle on this evolution thing.

Maybe you should read something besides the bible.


 You keep posting articles that say may, and possibly, and probably,  and yet take them as proof and expect us to also. We're smarter than that...



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lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Oh I went to both private and public.

And you still can not answer why two cells in a pond can't create a beating heart at some point in the last 2000 years.


 BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 2000 YEARS!!


 So in 2000 years, there has been no proof that evolution actually happened.

It's all conjecture and supposition. 

"Could have", "might have", "possibility".

But you want to mock and kill the actual creation of a child in utero. A progression of two cells actually forming a whole, working and functioning being.

Creation always bests evolution. 


 Agian, I have no idea what you`re babbling about. Evidently, you don`t have a handle on this evolution thing.

Maybe you should read something besides the bible.


 That's funny. I haven't brought up the bible. You did.

And you say I am rambling when I use scientific facts to make my argument. 

So if that is babbling. 

What are you doing? 

You haven't offered anything.

Articles full of possibilities and maybe but nothing solid.

I'm waiting for a good reason why your evolution can not produce a single beating heart in the last 2000 years.

But I will widen the net.

Since the creation of man. 

Why has there not been another heart suddenly start beating in any part of the world?



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Again, may does not equal proof.

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lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Oh I went to both private and public.

And you still can not answer why two cells in a pond can't create a beating heart at some point in the last 2000 years.


 BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 2000 YEARS!!


 So in 2000 years, there has been no proof that evolution actually happened.

It's all conjecture and supposition. 

"Could have", "might have", "possibility".

But you want to mock and kill the actual creation of a child in utero. A progression of two cells actually forming a whole, working and functioning being.

Creation always bests evolution. 


 Agian, I have no idea what you`re babbling about. Evidently, you don`t have a handle on this evolution thing.

Maybe you should read something besides the bible.


 You keep posting articles that say may, and possibly, and probably,  and yet take them as proof and expect us to also. We're smarter than that...


 Where is your proof of creation? You take an old book of myths written by ancient goat-herders in the Bronze Age as proof and expect me to believe it also. I'm smarter than that.



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If you could read, I've never said there is proof. Its a belief. Youre the one saying there is proof. So I ask you to supply that...

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If you could read, I've never said there is proof. Its a belief. Youre the one saying there is proof. So I ask you to supply that...


 Fossils. Fossils are proof, not a belief.



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Fossils are proof of what? Dead animals? There have been spark plugs that have been found to be fossilized. I presume those aren't MILLIONS of years old.

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If you could read, I've never said there is proof. Its a belief. Youre the one saying there is proof. So I ask you to supply that...


 Fossils. Fossils are proof, not a belief.


 Lol! Fossils can be 10 years old. A fossil cannot be dated exactly. Even carbon dating has been proven wrong several times. Theres no proof of evolution anyway. There is proof that something existed. Show me how that proves evolution. 



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What are fossils supposed to prove?



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lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Oh I went to both private and public.

And you still can not answer why two cells in a pond can't create a beating heart at some point in the last 2000 years.


 BECAUSE IT'S ONLY 2000 YEARS!!


 So in 2000 years, there has been no proof that evolution actually happened.

It's all conjecture and supposition. 

"Could have", "might have", "possibility".

But you want to mock and kill the actual creation of a child in utero. A progression of two cells actually forming a whole, working and functioning being.

Creation always bests evolution. 


 In.Your.Opinion.

Period.

Why are you so scared to think for yourself?

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Lol!!

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It's a valid question, just like YOUR question earlier today.

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Why are only the liberals afraid of teaching all the theories together with critical thinking and the debate on the positions?

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lilyofcourse wrote:
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Ed, I'm not trying to convince anyone.

I'm asking questions. Looking for, waiting for, one of you to provide the proof. The reasoning.

Can you answer my question?


Do you believe that Dinosaurs walked on Earth before humans?

How do you think the fossils came to be?

 


 Yes. There were dinosaurs. What an odd question. 

And what do fossils have to do with anything?


How is it that humans came into existence hundreds of thousands of years after the dinosaurs died off? 

 

 

 



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Who says that is how it happened?

The Bible says Adam and Eve were told to REPLENISH the earth.

What and who was outside the garden? Where did Cain get his wife?



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OMG, you can't possibly be serious! You really are gullible, aren't you? Those weren't found in ancient geodes.



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A 1920's spark plug was found in a lump of hardened clay!
It's a miracle!

They had spark plugs in the 1920s. They had clay in the 1920s.

Do the math.



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OMG, you can't possibly be serious! You really are gullible, aren't you? Those weren't found in ancient geodes.


 And neither has proof of evolution. 



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Who says that is how it happened?

The Bible says Adam and Eve were told to REPLENISH the earth.

What and who was outside the garden? Where did Cain get his wife?


WTF does any of that have to do with evolution?

Because your book says God zapped Adam and Eve in toto and in situ, then evolution can't possibly be true?

You have no idea what you're talking about. Take an elementary biology class. Please.

 



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If you could read, I've never said there is proof. Its a belief. Youre the one saying there is proof. So I ask you to supply that...


 Fossils. Fossils are proof, not a belief.


 Lol! Fossils can be 10 years old. A fossil cannot be dated exactly. Even carbon dating has been proven wrong several times. Theres no proof of evolution anyway. There is proof that something existed. Show me how that proves evolution. 


 Lol! No, it can't. A fossil is a remnant, trace or impression from a former geological age.

10 years ago is not a former geological age.

Jesus Christ! It's like having a debate with a porcini mushroom. I give up.



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weltschmerz wrote:
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If you could read, I've never said there is proof. Its a belief. Youre the one saying there is proof. So I ask you to supply that...


 Fossils. Fossils are proof, not a belief.


 Lol! Fossils can be 10 years old. A fossil cannot be dated exactly. Even carbon dating has been proven wrong several times. Theres no proof of evolution anyway. There is proof that something existed. Show me how that proves evolution. 


 Lol! No, it can't. A fossil is a remnant, trace or impression from a former geological age.

10 years ago is not a former geological age.

Jesus Christ! It's like having a debate with a porcini mushroom. I give up.


 

At least you could saute the mushroom in butter & garlic...

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Why are only the liberals afraid of teaching all the theories together with critical thinking and the debate on the positions?


 I'm not.

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Who says that is how it happened?

The Bible says Adam and Eve were told to REPLENISH the earth.

What and who was outside the garden? Where did Cain get his wife?


WTF does any of that have to do with evolution?

Because your book says God zapped Adam and Eve in toto and in situ, then evolution can't possibly be true?

You have no idea what you're talking about. Take an elementary biology class. Please.

 


 So, Lilly doesn't agree with you.  So, you curse at her, insult her religion and then insult her intelligence, all in one post?  Oh ok.  



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It's frustrating, LGS, when you try to actually debate and keep running into a brick wall...

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Some people obviously don't know what the word proof means or faith for that matter. I belive in the Creation because I have faith. You believe in evolution because you have proof. Oh wait, you have maybe, could be, or might be. None of which means proof just in case you didn't understand.

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Life comes from life. Non life doesn't not create life.

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Life comes from life. Non life doesn't not create life.


 Do you honestly think humans understand everything about the universe?

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You need to prove evolution as you say it is. The Theory of Biogenesis states that life arises from life. Nonlife does not and cannot create life.

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Actually, I don't "need" to prove anything.

There will never be a way to prove that God exists, yet you believe.

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Who says that is how it happened?

The Bible says Adam and Eve were told to REPLENISH the earth.

What and who was outside the garden? Where did Cain get his wife?


WTF does any of that have to do with evolution?

Because your book says God zapped Adam and Eve in toto and in situ, then evolution can't possibly be true?

You have no idea what you're talking about. Take an elementary biology class. Please.

 


 Uh... I was responding to Ed. 

And in my biology classes, life can never come from nothing. 

In my environmental classes, life can never come from nothing.

In advanced microbiology, life can never come from nothing.

There is always a driving force. Life begets life. 

Period. Plan and simple.

And again, I did not bring the bible into this.

YOU are the one who began mocking it and God. 

I've asked you for proof of evolution. You mocked my Bible and my God. 

I asked you to explain how creation can do in a relatively short amount of time that your evolution can not do in a millenia. You claim you can't understand the question and again insult.

So my conclusion is, you have no proof. 

And that means there is no longer a need to give your argument an ounce of consideration.

 



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Actually, I don't "need" to prove anything.

There will never be a way to prove that God exists, yet you believe.

flan


 My proof is personal. I have EXPERIENCED God. I have felt Him. I have heard Him. Have you experienced evolution? 

Again, I'm not claiming proof of creation. I claim belief, yet you and people like Welts claim proof of evolution without a shred of evidence. Hey, if you like to think your ancestors were swamp goo, who am I to argue? Mine certainty weren't. 



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Who says that is how it happened?

The Bible says Adam and Eve were told to REPLENISH the earth.

What and who was outside the garden? Where did Cain get his wife?


WTF does any of that have to do with evolution?

Because your book says God zapped Adam and Eve in toto and in situ, then evolution can't possibly be true?

You have no idea what you're talking about. Take an elementary biology class. Please.

 


 Uh... I was responding to Ed. 

And in my biology classes, life can never come from nothing. 

In my environmental classes, life can never come from nothing.

In advanced microbiology, life can never come from nothing.

There is always a driving force. Life begets life. 

Period. Plan and simple.

And again, I did not bring the bible into this.

YOU are the one who began mocking it and God. 

I've asked you for proof of evolution. You mocked my Bible and my God. 

I asked you to explain how creation can do in a relatively short amount of time that your evolution can not do in a millenia. You claim you can't understand the question and again insult.

So my conclusion is, you have no proof. 

And that means there is no longer a need to give your argument an ounce of consideration.

 


 Of course she has no proof. Its called posturing, and people who claim proof of evolution are very well versed in that...



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