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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
burns07 wrote:
Every single religion since the beginning of time was thanatocentric at its core.
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no they are not " death-centered " --love the psychobabble though--taoism, for one, comes to mind--centered in how one LIVES this life
Lol! I use a word that you had to look up, so it's "psychobabble".
Furthermore, Taoism isn't a religion in a strict sense...it's a philosophy without a deity.
Any religion which subscribes to a divine being(s) is built on pandering to that deity in order to be immortal, whether it's heaven, reincarnation or flying to Kolob after death in glowing orbs.

Happy New Year!

Don't project YOUR fears onto the rest of us. I am sorry you approached Christianity with fear but that isnt' what Christianity is all about.

weltschmerz · Guru

Why are you still talking to me, since it's a waste of time?
I was responding to burns, who claimed that "those who deny God are afraid and are children crying in the dark."
I posit the exact opposite.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Why are you still talking to me, since it's a waste of time?
I was responding to burns, who claimed that "those who deny God are afraid and are children crying in the dark."
I posit the exact opposite.

I'll talk to whomever i want to talk too.

weltschmerz · Guru

Well, it's your time to "waste". Have at it.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Well, it's your time to "waste". Have at it.

Yup, it's my time. But, thanks for caring. biggrin

weltschmerz · Guru

No problem.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Wow...I thought junior high was decades ago.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Oh yes, you are always "above the fray". Uh huh.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
burns07 wrote:
Every single religion since the beginning of time was thanatocentric at its core.
__________________________________________________________

no they are not " death-centered " --love the psychobabble though--taoism, for one, comes to mind--centered in how one LIVES this life
Lol! I use a word that you had to look up, so it's "psychobabble".
Furthermore, Taoism isn't a religion in a strict sense...it's a philosophy without a deity.
Any religion which subscribes to a divine being(s) is built on pandering to that deity in order to be immortal, whether it's heaven, reincarnation or flying to Kolob after death in glowing orbs.

Happy New Year!
Don't project YOUR fears onto the rest of us. I am sorry you approached Christianity with fear but that isnt' what Christianity is all about.

If you could THINK about it logically for one minute, most human beings are afraid of the unknown, and DEATH is certainly a BIG unknown.

What does religion do? Promises an afterlife...

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I didn't say people werent' afraid of death. Everyone is. But, Welts assumes that is the only reason people turn to Christianity.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

weltschmerz wrote:
burns07 wrote:
Every single religion since the beginning of time was thanatocentric at its core.
__________________________________________________________

no they are not " death-centered " --love the psychobabble though--taoism, for one, comes to mind--centered in how one LIVES this life
Lol! I use a word that you had to look up, so it's "psychobabble".
Furthermore, Taoism isn't a religion in a strict sense...it's a philosophy without a deity.
Any religion which subscribes to a divine being(s) is built on pandering to that deity in order to be immortal, whether it's heaven, reincarnation or flying to Kolob after death in glowing orbs.

Happy New Year!

The height of arrogance.

Tell me, do you ever get tired of your own self exalting and posturing?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

She has many, many degrees. And, she took AP classes in High School ya know.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Let's all bash the Liberal...Oh, and extra points because she's...wait for it...CANADIAN!

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She has many, many degrees. And, she took AP classes in High School ya know.

I guess I could preface my answers with the fact that I took Baccalaureate classes in science, math, literature and art in high school.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Whatever floats your boat...

flan

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She has many, many degrees. And, she took AP classes in High School ya know.
I guess I could preface my answers with the fact that I took Baccalaureate classes in science, math, literature and art in high school.

Knock yourself out. I talked about it when it was pertinent to the thread subject.

weltschmerz · Guru

burns07 wrote:

don't believe in chance myself--the odds of all this happening by accident and with such incredible complexity and diversity over geologic periods of time is too incredible to be true--the odds against it are simply overwhelming--thence, this world and everything in it (including ourselves)was created by design, purposefully and by someone (or something) with a power and intelligence utterly beyond our comprehension--our discovery of the processesses of evolution, biology even physics represents literally a mote of the intelligence/power necessary to bring this all into being

in my humble opinion, those that deny God or his existence and work are simply afraid--children crying in the dark

THIS is arrogance. And it's wrong.

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
If you say so.
Expecting a pile of garbage to turn into a Swiss watch is the very epitome of brilliance.
That's exactly what you believe. The Swiss Watch analogy is spot on. It would be easier for an inanimate object to be created by a gust of wind than for something to be created out of nothing, which is what you believe and then give rise to increasily complex systems, which does NOT happen in nature. But, WHATEVS.

Your analogy is the height of absurdity and shows how little you understand. That is NOT what I believe.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

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flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ooooh!

A BIG EMOJI...

flan

chef · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
burns07 wrote:
Every single religion since the beginning of time was thanatocentric at its core.
__________________________________________________________

no they are not " death-centered " --love the psychobabble though--taoism, for one, comes to mind--centered in how one LIVES this life
Lol! I use a word that you had to look up, so it's "psychobabble".
Furthermore, Taoism isn't a religion in a strict sense...it's a philosophy without a deity.
Any religion which subscribes to a divine being(s) is built on pandering to that deity in order to be immortal, whether it's heaven, reincarnation or flying to Kolob after death in glowing orbs.

Happy New Year!
Don't project YOUR fears onto the rest of us. I am sorry you approached Christianity with fear but that isnt' what Christianity is all about.
If you could THINK about it logically for one minute, most human beings are afraid of the unknown, and DEATH is certainly a BIG unknown.
What does religion do? Promises an afterlife...
flan

I can't speak for anybody but myself but I'm not a Christian because I'll go to Heaven when I die. I'm a Christian because I believe in God. I believe that Christ is the Risen Savior. I believe the Bible is Truth.

I find the implication that one only seeks religion to alleviate fears of death as insulting and unfounded. It would be rather selfish of one to forge a relationship with Christ just to avoid Hell.

I have never been afraid of death - even before I was a Christian.

weltschmerz · Guru

I find the implication that one only seeks religion to alleviate fears of death as insulting and unfounded.

...and I find the implication that those who reject God are "scared little children, afraid of the dark" to be insulting and unfounded.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
I find the implication that one only seeks religion to alleviate fears of death as insulting and unfounded.
...and I find the implication that those who reject God are "scared little children, afraid of the dark" to be insulting and unfounded.

Um, ok? So you can toss that then? Oh, i see.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
She has many, many degrees. And, she took AP classes in High School ya know.
I guess I could preface my answers with the fact that I took Baccalaureate classes in science, math, literature and art in high school.

I was the Salutatorian! Yay me! Oh, and the top scoring basketball player for my school! biggrin

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:

A giant emoji is no more true than a small one.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
A giant emoji is no more true than a small one.

And, you spouting your God denials out of your pie hole doesnt' make God disappear, lol.

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
A giant emoji is no more true than a small one.
And, you spouting your God denials out of your pie hole doesnt' make God disappear, lol.

Something can't disappear which never existed in the first place, despite the protestations from YOUR pie-hole.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

God exists without my help.

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.

Prove it.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.
Prove it.

Prove that nothing created Everything, without God. PROVE IT.

weltschmerz · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.
Prove it.
Prove that nothing created Everything, without God. PROVE IT.

Prove that there's a magic wizard who can read your mind and keeps track of your sins so he can suitably punish you in the hereafter. Prove it.

It sounds like something from Hogwarts.

Lindley · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.
Prove it.
Prove that nothing created Everything, without God. PROVE IT.
Prove that there's a magic wizard who can read your mind and keeps track of your sins so he can suitably punish you in the hereafter. Prove it.
It sounds like something from Hogwarts.

Looking at creation and carrying a little baby is proof enough for me. I can't explain it but it's something I just know in my heart. I'm not a believer because I'm afraid to die but because I know. The best way I can explain it is Faith.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I respect that, Lindley.

flan

chef · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
I find the implication that one only seeks religion to alleviate fears of death as insulting and unfounded.
...and I find the implication that those who reject God are "scared little children, afraid of the dark" to be insulting and unfounded.

Burns' quote was: "in my humble opinion, those that deny God or his existence and work are simply afraid--children crying in the dark". That is quite different from the words you are attributing to him.

You have no problem insulting God, His Creation, His Word, etc. You don't believe in Him but you insult Him mercilessly. Why? To what end?

You keep asking for proof of God's existence but here's the thing - He could be standing right in front of you and you still wouldn't believe in Him. Perhaps you don't want to believe in God no matter what. You are so staunchly opposed to the very notion of God's existence that you seek proof that He doesn't exist.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.
Prove it.
Prove that nothing created Everything, without God. PROVE IT.
Prove that there's a magic wizard who can read your mind and keeps track of your sins so he can suitably punish you in the hereafter. Prove it.
It sounds like something from Hogwarts.

Prove that nothing created Everything, without God. PROVE IT.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Funny how you don't hold yourself to the SAME standard you demand of others! LMAO!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You are a fan of PROOF Welts. Let's see your proof. How did NOTHING create everything?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

chef wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
I find the implication that one only seeks religion to alleviate fears of death as insulting and unfounded.
...and I find the implication that those who reject God are "scared little children, afraid of the dark" to be insulting and unfounded.
Burns' quote was: "in my humble opinion, those that deny God or his existence and work are simply afraid--children crying in the dark". That is quite different from the words you are attributing to him.
You have no problem insulting God, His Creation, His Word, etc. You don't believe in Him but you insult Him mercilessly. Why? To what end?
You keep asking for proof of God's existence but here's the thing - He could be standing right in front of you and you still wouldn't believe in Him. Perhaps you don't want to believe in God no matter what. You are so staunchly opposed to the very notion of God's existence that you seek proof that He doesn't exist.

burns' quote was typical burns...mocking anything he doesn't understand.

Re the bolded: Jesus actually had no problems proving himself to Thomas, as I recall.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Then He said to Thomas, "Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing." 28Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" 29Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.

Yeah, he did have a bit of a "problem" with that afterall.

weltschmerz · Guru

Lindley wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.
Prove it.
Prove that nothing created Everything, without God. PROVE IT.
Prove that there's a magic wizard who can read your mind and keeps track of your sins so he can suitably punish you in the hereafter. Prove it.
It sounds like something from Hogwarts.
Looking at creation and carrying a little baby is proof enough for me. I can't explain it but it's something I just know in my heart. I'm not a believer because I'm afraid to die but because I know. The best way I can explain it is Faith.

Well, it's not proof enough for ME. I know in MY heart that there is no deity looking after us and judging us.

Furthermore, faith takes many forms and doesn't mean a whole lot.

The Heaven's Gate people had faith that if they castated themselves and then comitted suicide, then they'd hitch a ride on a comet to the mother ship. You have to have some pretty strong faith to go that route.

Hindus have faith in multi-limbed elephant gods and that the spirits of their ancestors live in cattle,

ISIS has faith that if they blow people up, along with other innocents, that they'll be rewarded with 72 virgins in the afterlife.

Mormons have faith that they''ll ascend to the planet Kolob in glowing orbs.

I don't believe in any of it.

huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Lindley wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.
Prove it.
Prove that nothing created Everything, without God. PROVE IT.
Prove that there's a magic wizard who can read your mind and keeps track of your sins so he can suitably punish you in the hereafter. Prove it.
It sounds like something from Hogwarts.
Looking at creation and carrying a little baby is proof enough for me. I can't explain it but it's something I just know in my heart. I'm not a believer because I'm afraid to die but because I know. The best way I can explain it is Faith.
Well, it's not proof enough for ME. I know in MY heart that there is no deity looking after us and judging us.
Furthermore, faith takes many forms and doesn't mean a whole lot.
The Heaven's Gate people had faith that if they castated themselves and then comitted suicide, then they'd hitch a ride on a comet to the mother ship. You have to have some pretty strong faith to go that route.
Hindus have faith in multi-limbed elephant gods and that the spirits of their ancestors live in cattle,
ISIS has faith that if they blow people up, along with other innocents, that they'll be rewarded with 72 virgins in the afterlife.
Mormons have faith that they''ll ascend to the planet Kolob in glowing orbs.
I don't believe in any of it.

They're wrong--and so are you.

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lindley wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.
Prove it.
Prove that nothing created Everything, without God. PROVE IT.
Prove that there's a magic wizard who can read your mind and keeps track of your sins so he can suitably punish you in the hereafter. Prove it.
It sounds like something from Hogwarts.
Looking at creation and carrying a little baby is proof enough for me. I can't explain it but it's something I just know in my heart. I'm not a believer because I'm afraid to die but because I know. The best way I can explain it is Faith.
Well, it's not proof enough for ME. I know in MY heart that there is no deity looking after us and judging us.
Furthermore, faith takes many forms and doesn't mean a whole lot.
The Heaven's Gate people had faith that if they castated themselves and then comitted suicide, then they'd hitch a ride on a comet to the mother ship. You have to have some pretty strong faith to go that route.
Hindus have faith in multi-limbed elephant gods and that the spirits of their ancestors live in cattle,
ISIS has faith that if they blow people up, along with other innocents, that they'll be rewarded with 72 virgins in the afterlife.
Mormons have faith that they''ll ascend to the planet Kolob in glowing orbs.
I don't believe in any of it.
They're wrong--and so are you.

Yeah, everyone is wrong except you...it's even in your signature.

chef · Guru

flan327 wrote:
chef wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
I find the implication that one only seeks religion to alleviate fears of death as insulting and unfounded.
...and I find the implication that those who reject God are "scared little children, afraid of the dark" to be insulting and unfounded.
Burns' quote was: "in my humble opinion, those that deny God or his existence and work are simply afraid--children crying in the dark". That is quite different from the words you are attributing to him.
You have no problem insulting God, His Creation, His Word, etc. You don't believe in Him but you insult Him mercilessly. Why? To what end?
You keep asking for proof of God's existence but here's the thing - He could be standing right in front of you and you still wouldn't believe in Him. Perhaps you don't want to believe in God no matter what. You are so staunchly opposed to the very notion of God's existence that you seek proof that He doesn't exist.
burns' quote was typical burns...mocking anything he doesn't understand.
Re the bolded: Jesus actually had no problems proving himself to Thomas, as I recall.
flan

Burns' quote wasn't mocking anything.

Welts is not Thomas.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
Lindley wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.
Prove it.
Prove that nothing created Everything, without God. PROVE IT.
Prove that there's a magic wizard who can read your mind and keeps track of your sins so he can suitably punish you in the hereafter. Prove it.
It sounds like something from Hogwarts.
Looking at creation and carrying a little baby is proof enough for me. I can't explain it but it's something I just know in my heart. I'm not a believer because I'm afraid to die but because I know. The best way I can explain it is Faith.
Well, it's not proof enough for ME. I know in MY heart that there is no deity looking after us and judging us.
Furthermore, faith takes many forms and doesn't mean a whole lot.
The Heaven's Gate people had faith that if they castated themselves and then comitted suicide, then they'd hitch a ride on a comet to the mother ship. You have to have some pretty strong faith to go that route.
Hindus have faith in multi-limbed elephant gods and that the spirits of their ancestors live in cattle,
ISIS has faith that if they blow people up, along with other innocents, that they'll be rewarded with 72 virgins in the afterlife.
Mormons have faith that they''ll ascend to the planet Kolob in glowing orbs.
I don't believe in any of it.

But, yet you have Faith that there was a vast void of Nothing that POOFED into everything by what exactly, you won't say!! LMAO!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

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huskerbb · Guru

weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lindley wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.
Prove it.
Prove that nothing created Everything, without God. PROVE IT.
Prove that there's a magic wizard who can read your mind and keeps track of your sins so he can suitably punish you in the hereafter. Prove it.
It sounds like something from Hogwarts.
Looking at creation and carrying a little baby is proof enough for me. I can't explain it but it's something I just know in my heart. I'm not a believer because I'm afraid to die but because I know. The best way I can explain it is Faith.
Well, it's not proof enough for ME. I know in MY heart that there is no deity looking after us and judging us.
Furthermore, faith takes many forms and doesn't mean a whole lot.
The Heaven's Gate people had faith that if they castated themselves and then comitted suicide, then they'd hitch a ride on a comet to the mother ship. You have to have some pretty strong faith to go that route.
Hindus have faith in multi-limbed elephant gods and that the spirits of their ancestors live in cattle,
ISIS has faith that if they blow people up, along with other innocents, that they'll be rewarded with 72 virgins in the afterlife.
Mormons have faith that they''ll ascend to the planet Kolob in glowing orbs.
I don't believe in any of it.
They're wrong--and so are you.
Yeah, everyone is wrong except you...it's even in your signature.

That's been well established.

weltschmerz · Guru

huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lindley wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
God exists without my help.
Prove it.
Prove that nothing created Everything, without God. PROVE IT.
Prove that there's a magic wizard who can read your mind and keeps track of your sins so he can suitably punish you in the hereafter. Prove it.
It sounds like something from Hogwarts.
Looking at creation and carrying a little baby is proof enough for me. I can't explain it but it's something I just know in my heart. I'm not a believer because I'm afraid to die but because I know. The best way I can explain it is Faith.
Well, it's not proof enough for ME. I know in MY heart that there is no deity looking after us and judging us.
Furthermore, faith takes many forms and doesn't mean a whole lot.
The Heaven's Gate people had faith that if they castated themselves and then comitted suicide, then they'd hitch a ride on a comet to the mother ship. You have to have some pretty strong faith to go that route.
Hindus have faith in multi-limbed elephant gods and that the spirits of their ancestors live in cattle,
ISIS has faith that if they blow people up, along with other innocents, that they'll be rewarded with 72 virgins in the afterlife.
Mormons have faith that they''ll ascend to the planet Kolob in glowing orbs.
I don't believe in any of it.
They're wrong--and so are you.
Yeah, everyone is wrong except you...it's even in your signature.
That's been well established.

Lol! Established by you?